@RNL Good call, maybe the gang-watch will lead to a gangbang of its own...?
@RNL I know I'm real late to this party, but I think part of the attraction of lesbian pron is that the actors at least pretend to be enjoying themselves, there's lots of touching/kissing, etc. TONS of straight porn is like, "hey baby," clothes off, 5 minutes of blowjob, then hard banging in various positions for 20 mins, then he blows a load on her somewhere. Which, whatever, but there is SO LITTLE EMPHASIS on the lady that it's ridiculous. And when you're a lady trying to get turned on, that is usually... not going to do it. So, I can see why looking at ladies who like to do things to each other would be better.
I will join you in looking at that gangband porn, though, or like the ones where there's a huge orgy? Yeah.
@roadtrips You're good! I just read your comment and reread and I was like, Oh god, I sound like a turd! I promise, I'm not/trying my best not to be :)
@roadtrips Oh, I was not planning on being like, I read this article, and it applies to me! What did YOU, a person of color think?? I guess I wasn't clear when I said I brought it up, she asked me what I was reading and I told her.
But thanks for the reminders about listening and being conscientious, and especially the tip about letting the conversation flow and/or be led and/or end with the cues of the person whose experiences I am trying to learn about. I... can be a bit of a dominant conversationalist, so great advice, specifically for me.
@wee_ramekin @simone eastbro @ baby crow @everyone, I guess
I am also someone who grew up in a predominantly white community and moved to a much, much more diverse one. I basically work with all Asian women right now, one Asian man and one Hispanic/Indian man, and I've never really thought about it being a big change. I mean, it's probably a combination of me being too lazy to think beyond my own experiences and expecting a ton more diversity that has lessened the impact of being the only white person who works her e(I actually never realized it til just now), but I don't feel like an outsider in any way. It's a very weird thing when racism/othering happens to you, because it's like, if I worked in an office and I was the only POC of 7 people, would I feel like an outsider? Probably. I don't know how you wouldn't. I am privileged, and so don't feel different among a group of people where I am different. Because, you're right, I think of the things I'm feeling as "normal," and I'm not sure of how much of that is just being a human and how much of that is the deep-rooted privilege of being white.
I'd love to talk to some of the girls at work about some of the things they face as WOC and (I assume I guess) feminists, but in a work environment, is there a place I can start? I don't want to be That Person who just randomly starts asking questions of a POC, but I really really DO want to know about their experiences! I brought up this article to one of the girls, and was saying I am totally one of the white women they're talking about, and she was just like, "haha, yeah." So, I guess I just leave it at that and now that she knows I have some interest in the subject, she can talk to me about it? Or should I ask her if she has any thoughts on it?
It's really jarring to realize I'm a product of a racist society, and by not thinking about these things, I am part of the problem. I mean, I have non-white friends here, but it's not something I ever thought about until now. So I've definitely not surrounded myself with white people, but it wasn't a conscious thing.
I'm totally just rambling at this point, but man, this article and the other one have given me a lot to think about. Awesome, Jia and Mikki and Flavia, and thanks for jolting me out of my lazy worldview.
@Megasus I AGREE
Esp with those fancy tap pants.
@ratatat I got an email from a local indie newspaper that was like "COMING UP THIS WEEK, EXCLUSIVE PRESALE TICKETS TO SHAGGY"
So if anyone wants to go, you know, I can you some tickets even before they go on sale to the general public.
@TATABox There's a google group for that
@Hiroine Protagonist AAAAAAAHHHHH
Email me? rock and roll nicole at hotmail dot com!!! Without spaces, obvs.
And I'm in West End, and I DO like things. Like bikes! Although I need to get a helmet.
@Lianne I am (originally) from Edmonton! Take up smoking, everyone talks to each other when they're outside. Or, er, in real advice, email me at rock and roll nicole at hotmail dot com, I can maybe hook you up with some friends who still live there.