On The Four White Girls of the Apocalypse
@sleepypeaches i am responding to your comments.
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On The Four White Girls of the Apocalypse
@sleepypeaches and what would that be? you telling poc to shut up about the fact that we aren't represented in mainstream media? Because i got that.
If you were really not interested in hearing about it you would have done what I do every time I see an article about the Kardashians. Not click on it. But instead you are all over this thread telling poc how this is not a big deal and its just one show etc etc etc to get us to stop talking about it. The number of times that you posted saying the same thing in different ways shows just how invested you are in doing that.
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On The Four White Girls of the Apocalypse
@leastimportantperson I don't know how you guys do it. you just can't catch a break!
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On The Four White Girls of the Apocalypse
@sleepypeaches So you're happy this discussion is happening, whitewashing is still an issue in this show, but shut up about it.
Um . . . am I missing something?
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On The Four White Girls of the Apocalypse
@octagonfudge This is not a new discussion. It has happened about every major white centric show since I can remember including Seinfeld, Friends, Mad Men etc etc etc etc. You not hearing about it is a different thing. It isnt just about them being women. And it depicts WHITE women's real lives. . . that's about it. Poc are sick of hearing that white women can represent all women and we should shut up about it.
@sleepypeaches characters that disappear after one episode are not what were talking about when we say 'representation'. and dunham has made it pretty clear that she is writing what she knows and hasnt said she intends to hire poc writers so. . .
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On Where (My) Girls At?
@somethingobscure Oh hell no. "less emotional perspective?" Ew I was afraid this thread would get like this.
You don't see the issue as having to do with race because you are clueless about the reality of racial inequality in this country. It is not just about this show and the whims of a privileged director or creator or producer. It is a system in which very few people of color can get their stories told in a way that is not degrading or trivial.
This is the problem with colorblindness. You think that you are being 'objective' but you are arguing for the status quo like people's personal tastes and the market will take care of institutional racism magically for you. This is all very 'interesting' for you, great. But don't have the illusions that you are on the side of racial equality, eventual or not.
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On Where (My) Girls At?
@somethingobscure It is hypocritical to hope for eventual equality while arguing vigorously for the (unequal) status quo.
I don't think colorblindness is positive at all, and it is certainly not possible in an acting audition. People can say that they 'don't see color' but that is bullshit unless they are visually impaired. Stereotypes affect how people see each other, and marginalized people get the short end of the stick because of it. Erasing differences doesn't bring equality- they need to be seen for what they are and be addressed and accepted.
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On Where (My) Girls At?
@somethingobscure The casting of this show IS REALITY. Actors of color do not get jobs *in real life* because of whitewashing. It is not a hypothetical exercise for those people. And hoping that things will magically get better by perpetuating the erasure of poc in the media and denying them opportunities will not work because it's hypocritical. And I have no idea what that last sentence means at all.
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On Where (My) Girls At?
@Skanky Baggington I would think you'd be exhausted after taking up so much time posting over and over again essentially telling marginalized people to shut up about their erasure in mainstream media. What I am actually tired of is seeing countless shows about upper middle class white people that are supposed to be 'for everyone' while poc issues and lives are a 'niche demographic'. So there's that.
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On The Return of the Bombshell, and 87 Years of Pinup Photography
@OxfordComma I have both and they are both awesome for their own reasons. The faja is more everyday wear and it is much easier to hide. The corsets I have give awesome reduction and shaping but they limit movement and are not as easy to hide if you don't have structured clothes on over them. I like to bust them out for special occasions though.