@Oh, squiggles Or the Ethical Humanists/Ethical Culture Society? I think they do the things you're talking about--meet regularly, have lectures, do community work--with explicitly non-religious (or at least non-theological) motivations. Some people might consider it spiritual practice but some are just seeking that kind of community outside of a religious context. My very non-religious dad used to go to meetings in NYC.
@par_parenthese No, for sure! I find his argument really problematic. (I realize I didn't make that clear.) It's an interesting addition to the conversation about identity & behavior, though.
Did this remind anybody else of the This American Life about testosterone? I'm thinking specifically about the part where Griffin Hansbury, who is trans, talked about how people reacted to his behavior towards women pre- and post-transition.
"I've gotten into a lot of arguments with women friends, co-workers, who did not know about my past as a female. I call myself a post-feminist. And I had a woman say, you're not a post-feminist. You're a misogynist. And I said, that's impossible. I can't be a misogynist.
"And I couldn't explain to her how I had come to this point in my life. And to her, I was just a misogynist. And that's unfortunate because it's a lot more complicated than that."
@Julia duMais I know! Yikes.
@packedsuitcase Ooh, nice job on the shoe stipulation. We were forbidden from wearing Converse to prom at my school. My junior year, a bunch of alt kids were turned away for wearing sneakers with their tuxes. I remember angry editorials in the school newspaper pointing out that it was the well dressed popular kids who were wreaking most of the drunk havoc.
@Amphora I'm up for today or tomorrow. I'm downtown too, so Haymarket works for me.
@Rock and Roll Ken Doll Are you for real? I don't comment enough around here to have a firmly established voice, but hey, what's up, I live here.
Or how about Morning? Those ending lines!
there is nothing that
distracts me music is
only a crossword puzzle
do you know how it is
when you are the only
passenger if there is a
place further from me
I beg you do not go