This is so interesting! My grandfather used to travel to Afghanistan for work in the 70s and when we were kids (when the war started) was always telling us how different it was then from what we saw on TV. It's fascinating to see the pictures as well.
On Interview with Filmmaker Izzy Chan: "Have we adjusted our expectations of what a man needs to bring to the table?"
@queenofbithynia I think that a lot of people have these subconscious reactions- for me it's not employment or earning power but education. I've got to say that I was a bit taken aback when the last guy I dated told me he hadn't even been to college. (er, Canadian college which is like... actually I'm not sure what the American equivalent would be. A two year diploma?) I mean, after some thought I was ok with it, but there was definitely that automatic knee jerk reaction.
This is HORRIFYING. I can't click on the article because every hair on my body is now on end. Perhaps this explains why I used to cry as a child whenever it rained on the snow and I had to go outside?
@RubeksCube yes please! I have watched so many bad movies for that man.
@SarahP Exactly! I love Parker but what do they mean that no one reads Millay? Those are fighting words! Teenage me loved Millay with an all consuming passion.
@Titania Yep! I think the organization you are working for can really make a difference. (By the way... I am full time permanent- not just working some part-time student position.)
@Manatee I don't know. I mean, I'm sorry that you've had a really shitty time of it but I really love my EA job. It's for a dean at the uni I am doing part-time grad school at (and they're super flexible around my classes), which maybe makes a difference, but they're really great at giving me new skills so I can move up and the Dean lets me help with a lot of his research because he knows I've got skills in that area. Plus I get to do student life planning which is awesome.
So maybe it's the place you are working, as well as the position. Because we always joke that if I don't get a job in academia at least I'll be able to climb the ranks of uni administration with the training I'm getting. It could be way worse!
@aphrabean It really should! Education should be about way more than income and socio-economic status... and I think it is for a lot of people (I love my "useless degree" and am going on to a "useless graduate degree") but you have to pay your rent somehow.
@ironhoneybee Hmm, not snarky, it's a totally valid question! Well, my parents graduated from University in 1980. At that point about 11% of the population went to University (although that is for 1979)... now it's somewhat over 25%, with about 50% of the population having formal post-secondary qualifications according to statistics Canada. More grads are not "underemployed" or working jobs which do not require their level of education, which may have something to do with there being more of us. The general point, is that a Bachelor's degree doesn't really come with the same promise of higher-level employment that it used to, but it has become increasingly important for low level admin. work (like what I do!)
In addition, the economy is quite different. People who graduated in my year paid about $25,000 for our degree (which probably sounds low to Americans)but when my parents graduated it cost under $1000 a year! Meanwhile from 1980 to 2005 the average wage in Canada has risen only $53. Where I live the average price for a house in 1980 was about $200,000, or about 4x the wage of the average university graduate, now the average price is about $500,000, or about 10x.
You can find most of the data on StatsCan if you are really interested.
@aphrabean It is a shame, by the way. I don't think it's a great use of education, and I know there are loads of people without degrees who could do the job and do it well. Still, it's tough out there, and education doesn't mean what it did to my parent's generation. (A fact I am sadly familiar with... class of 2009.)