I've become a big fan of The Hairpin over the course of this year (it's recently become my home page), and thought I'd stop lurking and join you all in the comments. Skanky Baggington is one among the litany of nicknames bestowed upon me by my longtime, live-in, boyfriend and I use it proudly. If you see a Skanky Baggington occasionally on Jezebel and Yippayap (as a blue rose), or the A.V. Club and here (as the wonderful Edna St. Vincent Millay), then you're looking at my personal brand of nonsense. You'll most likely see me anywhere anyone is reminiscing about the pop culture of their youth, or anywhere people are talking about celebrities they want to bone.
@deepomega: I think what a lot of people criticizing this show don't seem to get is that this is a very low budget cable production, and it doesn't have a friggin' writers room like a sitcom on a major network. You repeating over and over about how she needs to hire more writers is not the great point that you think it is. There's only one writer credited for the majority of these episodes, Lena Dunham, with the others only having a total of two writers, as is common with cable t.v. I'm not a regular watcher of "How I Met Your Mother", but that is a major network show with a team of writers, that's been on for nearly a decade, and I've never seen anyone screaming about how that show needs to be made an example of for the whitewashing of everything. It's been on for years and years, and I've never seen any POC on it. I'm not saying it's right, or that I agree with it, but the approach "Girls" has taken is obviously one of satire about entitled, over grown white kids, who think they're something special and have a myopic world view. The HBO commercials hyped it up to be some "voice of everyone" nonsense, but I've never once heard Lena Dunham say that herself. Also, enough people liked her idea to put her life on tv, and thought she was a good writer, so any of us here saying she's not really means nothing in the grand scheme of things. I'm not telling people what they can or can't waste their time complaining about, but given all the potentially race related things one could make points on, this seems pretty damn minor.
@leon.saintjean: I think in this day and age it is an accomplishment to have done much of anything by Dunham's age. The amazing examples you used aren't anywhere near this current generation of 20 something's, and weren't even a part of my parents generation either. I'm a millennial, and I think Louis C.K. got it right when he called my age group a bunch of useless assholes, but that's just my personal bias.
@WaityKatie: No, I'm saying *everything* boils down to "you're just jealous", at all. I usually love The Hairpin, and was dismayed to see such a "jealous" attitude in a fair number of comments to this article (and I'm talking *only* about the privilege aspect here), and there were a LOT of comments about how Lena Dunham and her co-stars/friends are only where they currently are because of their famous parents, and I think getting upset about things like *that* in not productive for anyone, and is just an exhausting attitude to have.
@Marika Pea@twitter: I said *more* articles, not that there haven't been any, and what little I have seen said about certainly hasn't affected the baffling success of the show. Also, I was agreeing with something a fellow commenter said, so how is that "shutting down productive conversation"? Also, I've been accused today of being condescending here, and maybe that's true, but "I'm not sure which internet you're on?" Really? That's pretty unnecessarily dickish.
@martinipie: Well, I think the answer to that is blame HBO's marketing. This happen constantly with movie trailers, for example, studios often dumb down trailers to make a movie look way worse than it actually is, or they bloat it with a bunch of messages that aren't actually present in the finished product, so I rarely ever pay attention to entertainment advertising because of that.
@thebestjasmine: Look, there's been only ONE episode, and all I'm saying is that people need to calm down, and that the only beef I've had were with comments that suggested that Lena Dunham didn't deserve her own show, and that is the kind of talk that just personally gets my back up. Like another commenter down thread said, her show doesn't have to be all things to all people. At the end of the day it's just ONE t.v. show, and I don't think it's fair at all to insinuate that I'm some sort of clueless racist. I think that's pretty harsh.
@thebestjasmine: Sigh, not what I'm doing at all, but thanks for assuming the worst about me. The "whining" and "sour grapes" I'm referring to is in reference to the plethora of comments about how she only got where she is because she had the good fortune to "inherit her bootstraps" by having a famous mother, and other snotty nonsense like that. And I'm not defending the overall whiteness of tv, I'm just saying that because this is show is about a white girl, and stars her white girl friends, is no reason to have a race debate.
@WaityKatie: "...arguments that famous people's kids are taking up a lot of spots that could be occupied by maybe even more amazing non-famous people's kids are legitimate"
Really?! Yeesh, it's not like there are a limited number of spots. There's lots of potential acclaim out there for everyone, I truly believe that, and think drawing lines in the sand about who is or isn't more worthy is incredibly petty. Also, I find the people who complain most about this type of thing are failed creative types themselves, or mere dabblers in the arts (I know what dilettante means, thanks).
@thebestjasmine: Yeah, I get it. Everyone hates the privileged, and it's certainly okay to belittle them for whatever they try to put out into the world. If she wrote about things outside her sphere, people would be all "Where does she get off?", and if she just used her privilege to be some stuck up, useless, heiress, people would shit on her for that too. The tone of the comments here it's like she can't win, and I just find it hard to hate on a fellow woman for doing what she loves, and for things that were probably beyond her control. I'm positive the super whiteness of the show wasn't a conscious decision on her part, and that everyone whining here should put their sour grapes away about the opportunities she's gotten. Who are any of us to say who does and doesn't deserve anything? It's such a small, paltry, excuse of an issue in my opinion. It shouldn't fall solely on her shoulders to diversify tv.
@WaityKatie: Right, complaining on a message board about a tv show, when we should all probably be doing work, is a really affective way to "change things". You hear that, tv executives, lots of people don't like nepotism, so give all these creative jobs to all the dilettantes out there, they deserve them more.