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By Josh Michtom on In Support of Debra Harrell, Jailed for Letting Her 9-Year-Old Play Unsupervised in the Park

@Erryoudite Even if it was a 27-minute walk, so what? A nine-year-old can walk for 27 minutes. I took the subway in New York by myself when I was 10, in the barbaric 1980s, when crime was WAY higher and there were no cell phones. If this kid breaks her arm at the park, she's going to have to do exactly what an adult who breaks her arm at the park would: use the cell phone or depend on the (usually ample) kindness of strangers.

Posted on July 16, 2014 at 4:13 pm 2

By largemarge on In Support of Debra Harrell, Jailed for Letting Her 9-Year-Old Play Unsupervised in the Park

@Erryoudite the difference between this young lady and a free range kid is that free range kids are white.

Posted on July 16, 2014 at 1:02 pm 3

By Rookie (not the magazine) (not that there's anything wrong with that) on Ask a Fancy Person: First Parties, Working for Free, and What to Do When Your Gym Is Crawling with Children

@dotcommie I've got to agree here. Safety isn't just an excuse, but rather a legit reason. Gyms definitely aren't a safe place for kids, especially not small ones. Plus, in most cases, parents will be focused on their workouts and not entirely on their children. It's possible that nothing dangerous will happen, but it's not guaranteed. One misstep on a slippery floor, or quick gleeful run to break away from their parents resulting in a collision with someone picking up their gym bag, and the kid can get hurt. And we all know that even the tiniest scratch can be A HUGE DEAL for some kids and parents, and then the parents will complain, when really, 90% of the time it isn't that hard to put your kid in child care if the gym provides it.

Posted on July 16, 2014 at 11:27 am 2

By dotcommie on Ask a Fancy Person: First Parties, Working for Free, and What to Do When Your Gym Is Crawling with Children

@cordovan sofa I've been to a lot of gyms and have never been to one where small children running around was allowed or encouraged. I don't think it's the same thing as declaring a space to be "adults only" for the benefit of the adults, as one might do with a bar. Bars don't really pose any safety hazards to kids, so deciding they're not allowed is simply a cultural thing. I DO think gyms are inherently dangerous to little ones. There are fast-spinning belts on treadmills, weights swinging around and crashing to the ground, big people jumping and kicking, etc. I can easily envision kids sticking fingers under the weight stack in a cable machine, or falling off a treadmill, or trying to touch the treadmill belt. That would be the case at any gym. Regardless of whether the OP complained about safety or not, I think it's a completely sensible reason to not allow kids small enough to "toddle around."

Posted on July 16, 2014 at 10:39 am 3

By ennuigo on Ask a Fancy Person: First Parties, Working for Free, and What to Do When Your Gym Is Crawling with Children

@cordovan sofa Hey! Thanks for the feedback, miss! I agree with you that gyms aren't a monolith, and people should adjust accordingly. To respond to your concern about the kids, I asked the manager of my gym this morning what he thought, and he said it was definitely a liability that could create an insurance headache or worse and that's why it's important for the kids to stay in the kid space. I wanted to be sure I was giving you good info the pros would back up!

@amarz YES! Want to hang? I want to hang.

@Sunny P@twitter I am about that coconut water post workout lyfe, so I bring it with me along with my water bottle and towel then drink it while I'm walking back to the locker room. That's the best solution I've come up with!

Posted on July 16, 2014 at 8:12 am 2

By cmcm on In Support of Debra Harrell, Jailed for Letting Her 9-Year-Old Play Unsupervised in the Park

Because putting a single mother in jail is DEFINITELY going to improve the life of this 9 year old girl.

Posted on July 16, 2014 at 5:39 am 5

By Betsy Murgatroyd on In Support of Debra Harrell, Jailed for Letting Her 9-Year-Old Play Unsupervised in the Park

@Erryoudite
The park was not that far from the McDs. There is a path leading from the park to the McDonalds and it's only 3/10 of a mile. That is not that far. The long way is by the main roads and the news did not mention this. You can see this if you look at google maps.

Posted on July 15, 2014 at 9:06 pm 4

By The Hons on Ask a Fancy Person: First Parties, Working for Free, and What to Do When Your Gym Is Crawling with Children

@cordovan sofa Telling children that they can't go everywhere they want to is not equivalent to telling a woman how to dress. It is not "oppression." Children running around a gym, unless it is actually Gymboree, does create a safety issue, and a liability issue as well. Yes, women are often patronizingly told to change how they dress "for their own safety." This is also not the same thing as telling children that they can't be in a certain space. Lots of places, from jacuzzis to bars to gyms, are not for kids. The advice allows the letter writer to politely ask the parents to stop being rude, which is what is happening if their kids are interfering with other people's workouts. .

Posted on July 15, 2014 at 7:23 pm 6

By pajamaralls on In Support of Debra Harrell, Jailed for Letting Her 9-Year-Old Play Unsupervised in the Park

More and more, I think it'd be refreshing to be explicitly told "Hey, minorities/women/low income people, this is designed specifically for you to fail. Carry on."

Posted on July 15, 2014 at 5:14 pm 8

By femwanderluster on 42

"[A] woman turning forty-two was expected to voluntarily accept the shackles of biology and convention..."

Um...yeah, "voluntarily" doesn't really describe the state of them thar affairs.

IBTP

Posted on July 10, 2014 at 2:12 pm 3