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Scandals of Classic Hollywood: Robert Redford, Golden Boy

Robert Redford still does it for me. He did it for me when I first saw him in Butch Cassidy, he did it for me when he was washing Meryl Streep’s hair in Out of Africa. He did it for me in uniform in The Way We Were and with full hippie beard in Jeremiah Johnson. He’s classically handsome — the type of handsome on which you, your mom, your grandmother, and your best gay friend can all agree — with a flatness of expression that morphs sardonic when you least expect it. He has a storytime voice, the perfect level of tan, and haphazardly spaced highlights that betray a life lived en plein air. I love him for his palpable Westernness, his ease with open spaces, the scent of high altitude that seems to waft from him. He looks as good in jean cut-offs as he does in a well-tailored suit. And for nearly 40 years, he’s been Hollywood’s golden boy: likable and bankable, if a bit self-serious.

Redford belongs to the class of actors I think of in my head as the silver foxes: indigenous to the ‘60s and ‘70s, they’ve ripened before our eyes. Most of them have semi- or totally retired, some have passed away; all live in my memory both as their original, gorgeous selves and their well-lined, refined later-in-life iterations. Newman and Beatty, of course, but also De Niro and Hackman, Dustin Hoffman and Jack Nicholson, Jane Fonda and Julie Christie.

They’re not classic Hollywood, per se. They never had to deal with studio contracts. They got to use their real names and marry whom they pleased. They shunned publicity, or at least pretended to shun publicity as they posed for the cover of Life. They were a different type of star, in terms of interaction with the industry at large, but stars nonetheless — embodiments of what mattered to Americans at various cultural moments. And Redford, I realize now, was proof positive that beautiful American men could still exist amidst the turmoil of the age. Turns out he was a bit of a true liberal, but at the time, he had the looks of a jock, the demeanor of a respectable man, and just enough zest to titillate. I can’t quite decide whether he’s a good actor or a perfect star — which, if you think about it, is true of the most memorable of our idols. 

Throughout his career, Redford’s split critics: maybe he could act, but could he act other than himself? And isn’t that the very hallmark of a star? David Thomson called him a waste, while Pauline Kael understood that his golden diffidence was part of his allure, what drew us back to watch him over and over again. He never gave himself over fully the way that his co-stars did — not because he wasn’t acting, but because that was the point. He was, and remains, too cool. Which is part of why his enduring popularity is so surprising — is it his looks that bring us back, again and again? Or is the semi-masochistic desire to watch him maintain that aloofness?

Redford was born in Santa Monica, because of course he was. His father was a milkman but, in a page straight from the American Dream handbook, eventually became an accountant, moving his family to Van Nuys. There, Redford played on the high school baseball team and, if looks are to be believed, slayed the entire female population. A baseball scholarship to the University of Colorado followed, and I can just imagine him skamping all around Boulder, drinking beer and breaking hearts.

I mean, please. But he had better things to do than play beer pong, so he traveled Europe, took painting at Pratt, and eventually got caught up in acting, making his way into the live television scene in New York, which was thriving in the ‘50s. At some point between flipflopping his way through Europe and going to Pratt, he married Lola Van Wagenen, whose native Utah he would gradually make his own.

The sidepart, the beautiful sidepart!

Despite his boho attempts, the baseball/jock thing would structure his image moving forward. He guested in everything from Alfred Hitchcock Presents to The Untouchables while also working Broadway, hitting it big with the lead in Neil Simon’s Barefoot in the Park (1963), which ran for an approximate eon.

In his first publicity shot, circa 1962, you can already see the crinkle in his eyes that made him seem more sophisticated, less fratty.

There were bits and pieces in Hollywood — with Sydney Pollack, who’d prove his long-term collaborator, in Warhunt, and playing a bisexual, his only truly risky film role, in Inside Daisy Clover. He won “Best New Star” at the Golden Globes, but at the time, that was (almost) like winning the same award from The People’s Choice Awards — publicity but totally silly. This Property is Condemned was his breakthrough, complete with a serious soon-to-be-all-star line-up. Syndey Pollack directing, Tennesse Williams’ on the source material, a very young Coppola on the screenplay, Natalie Wood as his co-star.

Just sitting around being beautiful people.

Wood is just so good at playing gorgeous poor people — there’s always been a wantonness to her eyes, it’s something to do with the way they do her eyeliner and the way she looks up at people.

You see what I mean?

The film, which focuses on a guy sent down South to administer lay-offs during the Depression, is a mix of Up in the Air and vintage Tennessee Williams, which explains why a weird incestual air imbues the entire production. But Redford establishes the distance and (initial) resistance to feminine wiles that would characterize the rest of his career. He’s lovely to look at, if not always lovely to his romantic interest. But I hope you see that that’s the charm: he’s a dick for the first half, and then he falls for you during the second half. Sure, he’s still a little aloof, but he just said he loved you, even if he was all straight-faced about it. Trust me; just run with it. Think of how beautiful your children will be.

He played second fiddle to Brando in The Chase, a film that strikes me as alternately hysterical and nearly perfect depending on the day. Jane Fonda was in the mix, too, and came back with him for the film adaptation of Barefoot in the Park. This was Fonda at the height of her va-va-voom era, when she was married to French director Roger Vadim and about to do Barbarella and take the world by storm. In Barefoot, she’s all high-waisted pants and long legs, the ‘60s version of the manic pixie dream girl flinging herself around New York and upon the very supplicating Redford.

It’s a nice play on Redford’s fledgling image: he plays a reticent yet beautiful young lawyer; Fonda plays his very new wife, who loves to say inappropriate things, drag him to Staten Island for Albanian food, and have a lot of sex. When she realizes he’s kind of a bore, she decides to divorce him, at which point he gets drunk, becomes ridiculous, and proves to her that he can be awesome, too. There’s some weird, regressive rhetoric that runs through the script — Fonda’s mother tells her that a successful marriage is based on “making the husband feel important,” and it’s not a matter for satire. In hindsight, it sticks out as a film that wants to have it both ways: sexually liberated yet ultimately ideologically conservative.

Redford also looks somewhat tired throughout — maybe because, as the script implies but never shows, he’s having sex with Fonda six times a day. He’s stunning but bland, which, of course, is part of the point. But the last 10 minutes, the drunken fool minutes, are so delicious; it’s the dessert that makes him a star, as opposed to a handsome model for JC Penney. But Redford also understood that he had to get away from tightly-laced man-in-the-gray-flannel-suit characters lest the type consume him. He passed on The Graduate and Who’s Afraid of Virginia Woolf, opting instead for Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid.

A moustache and cowboy hat covered the good looks and baby face, while a deep tan and some good wrinkles made him look about 10 years older. Now, I’ll say the same thing about this film that I did when I wrote about NewmanButch Cassidy was counter-culture lite. It was released in 1969, but every time you think of the hippies and San Francisco and lots of sex, remember that the vast majority of America still just wanted to watch a Western with two palatable guys. Kael called it a “glorified vacuum” — a “facetious Western.” She’s totally right, but that doesn’t mean that it’s not still one of the most watchable filmic artifacts of the era. It’s also a prime example of two actors acting out their public images — Newman, as Kael points out, was the “aging good guy,” while Redford was still his removed, sardonic, handsome self, no matter how thick the moustache. It’s another reason the comparison between Cassidy and Ocean’s 11 is apt: both are glossy takes on the caper; both enlist stars to essentially play themselves.

Newman was already a star, oozing with prestige. Yet for Redford, the film’s mind-blowing success not only launched him into bonafide stardom, but marked the beginning of an associative pairing of the two. (Speaking of which — seriously, ladies — WHO is starting the FuckYeahCraggyDudes tumblr?)

Suddenly, Redford could do anything he pleased, free to spend the Hollywood capital that comes with a monster hit. He produced and starred in Downhill Racer (essentially an exercise in looking hot on the ski slopes), first aired his political leanings in the very Kennedy-esque The Candidate, and did some serious beard acting as Bon Iver’s spiritual grandfather in Jeremiah Johnson.

Shearling Coats: Bring Them Back.

My backwoods boyfriend.

No huge hits there, but it didn’t really matter, because suddenly there was The Way We Were – and it was all anyone could talk about. It was like everyone finally recovered after Love Story just in time to ruin themselves again when Barbra sings the theme song. I feel like I was born with this song in my head and I didn’t even see the movie until my late 20s. And Barbra! I didn’t even get Barbra until I saw this film — well, this and Funny Girl. And everyone who’s trying to sell Lea Michele as the new Barbra needs to chill, because obviously it’s not about the singing so much as the persona.

Redford comes into the shop where homely Streisand works, and she’s all, “Look who’s here, America the Beautiful,” and you’re all, YES, TRUER WORDS HAVE NEVER BEEN SAID. But then you get suckerpunched by how effectively this movie convinces you that Redford would fall for Streisand, with all her spunk and unruliness and radicalism. The essential message of this movie is that Hot Guys Like Brains and Sass. The secondary message is that Your Romance Will Then Be Plundered By Asshole Red Mongerers.

Point is, Redford wasn’t just hot. He was a man who recognizes integrity — in Streisand and, by extension, in you. He was, at least in this role, the ‘70s version of Feminist Ryan Gosling. And with moustache and mountainman beard gone, it was time for the No. 2 Most Handsome Man to rejoin the No. 1 Most Handsome Man and make another historical movie, this time with more suits.

The Sting is like Butch Cassidy but with more Joplin and nattier outfits. George Roy Hill directs again and Redford and Newman look ridiculously beautiful again (only this time Newman has stolen Redford’s moustache). Predictably, everyone and their grandma went to go see it, but what I love is that it was before the time of sequels — so instead of just rehashing the plot and adding a new villain, they actually had to find a new script, idea, and historical setting. The blockbuster sequel before the blockbuster sequel, and all the better for it.

Plus you got to spend a bunch of time thinking about what the stars were doing behind the scenes: just normal bro-stuff like playing shirt-less pingpong in your cut-offs:

Oooo Robert, you and your aviators, run that game. Run it all the way to Cannes, where you can hang out with Sydney Pollack, presumably wearing one of my collared tees from 1996, and wear your own white velour half-zip:

But then there was the vast disappointment of The Great Gatsby — a film I wanted so badly to be perfect, and I’m sure so many others did as well, even when they weren’t just jonesing for some sort of film adaptation after reading Gatsby in 11th grade and still wondering what the green light REALLY MEANT I mean SERIOUSLY.

But this film offers no answers. It’s a classic case of They Did It All Right: the costumes are right, the casting is seemingly right, the set design is right. Redford, the most golden and All-American of boys, should’ve been right — a product of the American dream itself, a man who left behind his past for a brighter one. And Mia! Sweet, innocent-faced Mia.

Yet there’s a chasmic absence of soul. I realize that the plot is, at least in part, about a chasmic absence of soul, but you need the structure around that chasm to reverberate with life and tension and desire, the way (at least in my unpopular opinion) it does in Luhrmann’s adaptation. Because say what you will about Luhrmann, but his movies wear their hearts on their sleeves.

This Gatsby adaptation was empty, but that doesn’t mean that people didn’t still go see it. There was a compulsion there, in the same way there was with Les Miserables this past Christmas. Meanwhile, Redford’s image only continued to refine itself: after the success of Cassidy, the magazines couldn’t get enough of him. He was on the cover of Life and in a full-page spread, reveling in his Utah-ness:

Snowmobiles, moon boots, vaulted-ceiling wood cabins: give me all of them.

Whether in Seventeen, Redbook, Good Housekeeping, Life, or People – you name the popular publication — the message was the same: Redford wasn’t your typical star. He publicly hated publicity. He was “not an actor who acts how he looks,” which is just another way of saying he wasn’t an asshole. He “wasn’t in love with the sound of his own voice,” according to McCall’s, and regularly "[gave] cast members rides in his car.” He didn’t have a suit or a mansion, and he loved his wife and their four kids, whom he called his “best friends.” Robert Redford: He’s Just Like Us! Only with a better highlights and chest hair!

He was all CIA-conspiracy theory in Three Days of the Condor and very serious in All the President’s Men, arguably one of the most important and influential political films of all time. It didn’t hurt that he was just getting more handsome...

...and probably inspired the declaration of at least 100,000 journalism majors. It’s such a snappy, important picture — eminently watchable and built on the charisma of its two leads. Once again, the comparison with Clooney and his ilk is apt: they manage to make the political thriller sexy and electric while still maintaining its integrity. Redford spearheaded the production, adaptation, and editing process — an arduous process that would prepare him for his next natural role: director.

A few forgettable films in the late ‘70s may or may not have prompted Redford to finally take matters into his own hands. He read Ordinary People, decided the project was his, bought the rights, shopped the project to Paramount, and promised a shoestring budget. Donald Sutherland, Mary Tyler Moore, and a veritable watershed of tears followed. Redford won the Oscar for Best Director, the first in a long line of testimonies to the Academy’s love of actors-turned-directors. I really have no comment for this film. It’s fine. It’s the sort of thing the Academy loves one year and forgets about the next, and it’s no Notebook, at least in terms of wringing me dry for tears. Like if you’re going to do the birds flying at sunset over the river, you’ve got to turn that knob to 11.

Directing Mary Tyler Moore on how best to make you cry.

If there’s anything that adds prestige to an actor’s image, it’s directing. (Just ask Ben Affleck.) But it’s even better if you can direct AND be a philanthropist. (Just ask Angelina.) So Redford founded the Sundance Institute in 1981 — it joined the Sundance Film Festival, founded in 1978 — consolidated operations in Park City, and used the hype over Ordinary People to draw attention to his various projects: cultivating fledgling filmmakers, funding underfunded documentaries, and turning Park City into a destination. There were many ins and outs that transformed a relatively tiny foundation into the indie behemoth that was Sundance in the late ‘90s, and you can read all about them in Peter Biskind’s salacious and highly readable Down and Dirty Pictures.

Point is, Redford was becoming more than the sum of his cinematic past: more than a movie star, more than a beautiful face. Over the course of the next 20 years, he’d become something just shy of a mogul, at least in terms of perceived power and industrial cache. He wasn’t running a studio, but the most important American film festival — a festival that could make or break an aspiring director’s career — had his name on it. Or, at least, the name of his most famous character.

In the early ‘80s, however, Sundance was still somewhat of a clusterfuck — lots of vision, little action. But that’s okay, because all anyone was actually thinking about was how much they wanted to move to Kenya and live in his tent:

I don’t want want to displace Meryl Streep in this movie so much as I want to hang out with both of them — or just watch them be wonderful together.

I guess I’m describing the act of watching any movie, but bygones. I want to watch this movie at all times. I fully realize it's a commercial for Banana Republic. I fully realize the problematic post-colonial nature. I fully realize that it’s sentimental, but I am so OK with sentiment when it’s this tan and washing hair:

I first saw this film when I was in early high school and totally obsessed with a love that gives and takes — you know, the anguish of liking a guy, he kinda shows that he likes you, he retreats, rinse and repeat. I was also in a deep love affair with the book and movie version of The English Patient (“The heart is an organ of fire” asdf;kjasd;flkjasd;lkfja;sdjlf), so Out of Africa only doubled my obsession with texts centered on strong women and iconoclastic men. Set approximately 80 years ago. In Africa. The love in both of these texts is a very adult sort of love, but the way it makes me feel is pure 16-year-old. Those are the movies you return to again and again, to better remember the curves of rapture.

Out of Africa swept the Oscars, winning nearly everything and getting nominated for everything else. The only person left out was Redford himself. He was, in truth, the foil to Streep’s masterful Karen Blixen, the force that makes her real and alive. Plus he’s essentially playing the safari version of his existing image, and the Academy always prefers an accent or a Method turn to a masterful turn as yourself. The reticence, the side-part, the flat voice, the heartbreak — it’s all there, withdrawn and quietly aching, just like my heart at the end of the movie.

And then, the ‘80s and ‘90s: more films, more directing. Sundance expanded; Sneakers showed teenage me what a fun caper could do. And A River Runs Through It, holy shit, let’s talk about a movie making you fall in love with landscape: it was shot just over Lolo Pass from my hometown, and no film has done more to make me appreciate where I grew up. The fact that Maclean’s family was Presbyterian like mine only made it resonate more — I almost begged my mother to pull the “write it, now cut it in half” trick that Tom Skerritt pulls on his son. When Tom Skerritt showed up at my office door earlier this semester [LONG STORY] it wasn’t Top Gun that sprang to mind, but Reverend Maclean.

Brad Pitt playing Paul Maclean is clearly, deliciously, Redford’s aesthetic doppelganger. But it’s the other, more sensible brother — Norman, the author of the book and the voice of the film — who most aligns with Redford’s image. Where Paul is brash and wild, Norman is thoughtful, determined, and responsible. He lacks Paul’s gravitas, but he also lives to tell the elegiac tale of his brother’s self-destruction. He stood in the towering shadow of rebellion, much like Redford had lived through the counter-culture and kept his own centered sense of self.

Sweet dad jeans on the set of River.

Like so much of Redford’s work, A River Runs Through It relies heavily on the magic hour and lens flare, on golden morning light and the way it reacts with the skin and hair of beautiful men and their women. I can’t say it’s high art, but again, like so many of Redford’s films, it’s so watchable I can’t dismiss it. And so the rest of his films seem to go: Indecent Proposal, Up Close and Personal, The Horse Whisperer, Spy Game ... genre fare, fairly forgettable. With Redford, it’s not the individual films so much as the overarching impact of his presence. And that’s the mark of an old-fashioned movie star — you don’t remember the plot as much as you remember the feel. The aura of greatness around Redford only continues to grow, and as the star becomes legend, it becomes clear that his death, whenever it comes, will likely beatify him once and for all.

Redford was a bonafide star when they were increasingly hard to find. Not all of his movies are masterpieces; indeed, most are just this side of pablum. But they’re also very good fun — the type of movie you’ll always stop and watch on cable, the type you can rewatch again and again. Don’t mistake me: I love these movies. They’re film at its most broadly entertaining, which is, really, Hollywood's backbone. Redford unified the country in its affection for him when it couldn’t agree on anything else, all the more surprising given the gradual revelation of his leftist leanings. He’s the last of a fading breed of star, a reminder that even amidst the aesthetic and narrative revolution of the so-called “silver age," the electric dynamism of Coppola and Scorsese and Penn and Malick, American golden boys were still making middlebrow films. Easy Rider made a lot of money in 1969, but Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid made far more.

In the ‘70s, Ladies Home Journal called Redford a “nice, normal married sex symbol” — a striking contrast to the likes of Warren Beatty, who was busy getting in the pants of thousands of women. Redford was safe sex: always decent, never dangerous. You might say the same of Newman, but he always had a slight edge to his roles. He’s played the villain, the asshole, the drunk, and the memory of those performances inflects his face and our understanding of him with something Redford will always lack.

Redford still does it for me. But sometimes I wonder if he does it for the easiest part of myself.

Previously: The Many Faces of Barbara Stanwyck

Anne Helen Petersen is a Doctor of Celebrity Gossip. No, really. You can find evidence (and other writings) here.



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PistolPackinMama

AHP. I needed this today. Also, I can kind of go either way on RR usually. But damn he's cute here.

PistolPackinMama

@PistolPackinMama Okay, no wait. I just read this all the way down and... yeah. YEAH. The individual parts can be kinda forgettable, fun, not bad, but forgettable. Punctuated by some of the movies I just really, really, really enjoy for whatever reason. (Butch Cassidy, Out of Africa, Sneakers, The Sting)

I might be able to go either way on some of his work and his image. But I sort of love HIM.

Or, yeah, what you said.

RebeccaKW

@PistolPackinMama I agree. Sometimes I see him and I don't get the appeal, other times I can't stop looking at his face and thinking how gorgeous he is.

However, shirtless Redford and Newman is ALWAYS a good thing.

Equestrienne

@PistolPackinMama My high school boyfriend looked just like Robert Redford. This is, of course, not a coincidence.

PistolPackinMama

@RebeccaKW ALWAYS

Cathy Hart@facebook

@PistolPackinMama lol

jamsbond

They shunned publicity, or at least pretended to shun publicity as they posed for the cover of Life.

is bubblegum casting legitimate

dj pomegranate

I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS.

*gets popcorn*

Ragged But Right

@dj pomegranate *claps hands excitedly* *gives up work for the morning*

dj pomegranate

@Ragged But Right Redford and Streep. That is all.

Jon0x9Richard76

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Jill_Tata

Fantastic, very clever.@k

lasso tabasco

YES. SoCH is my jam. What a great day!

HeyThatsMyBike

I gasped aloud at that first picture. I don't even know if I'll be able to stop looking at it in order to read the article. YOU ARE SO HANDSOME, ROBERT!
Seriously. There goes my day. Will just be here, trying not to stare at a man who is probably an illegal level of handsome. HANDSOME!

EmilyStarr

@HeyThatsMyBike The twinkle! He actually twinkles.

HeyThatsMyBike

@EmilyStarr I KNOW! It takes a lot to make you scroll through a bunch of pictures of somebody and then get to one of Brad Pitt in his River Wild days and be all "UGH WHAT IS HE DOING HERE, with his non-Redford face," but alas, Robert has done it.
Ok maybe I can actually look away and start reading now, but no promises.

HereKitty

@EmilyStarr I once interacted with but didn't actually meet him in person and seriously saw stars. This was a LONG time ago and I'm still getting a little tingly just thinking about it.

And then he went and had plastic surgery and made me so, so sad.

Equestrienne

@EmilyStarr No no no, he SPARKLES.

EmilyStarr

@Equestrienne I'd agree, but then you get the unfortunate association with sparkle vamps and he so outshines them that just... ugh. I'm very good with words today.

HeyThatsMyBike

@HeyThatsMyBike [ugh River Runs Through It not River Wild. I am mixing up my Streeps and Redfords and their River films]

Slapfight

This is everything I need today. Mr. Redford reeeeeaallly does it for me. Related: pretty sure Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid was the original Brokeback Mountain.

Lucienne

@Slapfight Right? The movie mostly runs on homoeroticism and wisecracks.

Slapfight

@Lucienne I mean, I imagine the studios threw in the female love interest because they knew they had a homoerotic love story on their hands. And, you know, the times. I don't even remember what happens to her in the movie because who even cares?

Amphora

@Slapfight She may have been carried off by a coyote before the last scene but I was busy so I don't remember either.

frigwiggin

I'm kind of amazed at how old-fashioned "bi-sexual" looks with the hyphen. Like the old (original?) pronunciation of "robot."

EpWs

@frigwiggin ...there's a different pronunciation of robot?

frigwiggin

@The Everpresent Wordsnatcher

Yeah! I wish I could figure out how to find a clip of someone saying it. Like "ROW-butt." I think Zoidberg says it that way.

frigwiggin

Like this! (He says it about 48 seconds in.)

EpWs

@frigwiggin OH! Okay. I thought that was just a weird Zoidberg thing.

Emma Carmichael

@frigwiggin Ha, fair. [/fixed]

frigwiggin

@E-dubs I think it originated from Czech so that might be why?

@Emma Carmichael Oh, I thought it was on purpose!

Spice&Snails&PuppyDogTails

@frigwiggin My Dad says it like that!!! I always thought he just said it strangely. We all happily mock him for it.

katzenklavier

@Spice&Snails&PuppyDogTails My dad says "robutt" too! But he also says "woyer" instead of warrior so he might just be a weirdo.

EpWs

Bless this post, and double bless for bonus pictures of Newman and Pitt. AHP, it's like you're doing this on purpose, just for me. :)

katiemcgillicuddy

@The Everpresent Wordsnatcher She's doing the lord's work.

frigwiggin

Also, Robert Redford is totally tsundere.

Equestrienne

Now I'm not really the "celebrity crush" type... but this here is the exception.

I always said that if I ever wind up with a chestnut gelding, I'm going to name him Sundance.

Robert Redford movie marathon tonight at my place, all are welcome. We will start with Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid and conclude with The Milagro Beanfield War, his directorial greatest.

PatatasBravas

I haven't seen Out of Africa so if that's included then COUNT ME IN.

High-five of agreement on MBW.

Fiddle dee dee

@Equestrienne

Gelding?

Linette

@Equestrienne Sundance is the name of my truck.

upsofloating

YES YAY I AM SO THRILLED!

I will go read the article now...

LilRedCorvette

I watched "Out of Africa" on my laptop in my dorm room and interrupted my roommate's calculus problem set by sobbing SO LOUDLY that she was sure I had been PHYSICALLY INJURED. I mean, Robert Redford, OBVIOUSLY, but Meryl is so beautiful in that movie that I don't even want to wear her face on my face because then I would have to stop looking at her.

Anne Helen Petersen

@LilRedCorvette This comment is my favorite comment.

angermonkey

@LilRedCorvette There is something so... weirdly adventurous about that movie. I mean, the colonialism is so distasteful, but Blixen goes out there all "This will be awesome! Just like Denmark, but HOT!" and then it's totally different and she loves it ANYWAY and the palms and the porches and the dog of a husband. And then she sticks it out and has ADVENTURES in all caps and Robert Redford. When they break up and she's leaving and the house has been packed and emptied and she says this one line about "I think we should have just left it this way always"... I have to go lay down.

you're a kitty!

@angermonkey UGH it's the best and also the book is the best thing ever. Colonialism is terrible, but that doesn't mean that the people involved weren't sometimes fascinating and complex and INCREDIBLE WRITERS and frankly kind of likeable in a historical way.

UGH it's such a good book and so is Beryl Markham's.

mlle.gateau

@LilRedCorvette I don't even like Robert Redford (::ducks head, dodges rocks::) but OMG THAT MOVIE. ALL THE TEARS.

My friend and I watched it one night (neither of us had seen it) because it was the only vaguely interesting DVD where I was housesitting, and holy shit, we cried ALL THE TEARS.

I did not know this was possible, because the night before we watched Age of Innocence. Apparently we both just wanted to see if was possible to die of dehydration simply from crying.

Valley Girl

ANNE HP I JUST SAW BUTCH CASSIDY AND SUNDANCE and I went in expecting to bask in the beauty of young-ish Paul Newman but Redford and his magical 'stache had me in thrall. IN THRALL. Never has a SoCH been so perfectly timed, okay scrolling up to read now...Holy Jesus, Mary and Joseph, that ping pong pic chest pelt!

There better be a FYCraggyDudes.tumblr asap, so help me God!

LilRedCorvette

@Valley Girl I'm trying to figure out how I can incorporate "ping pong chest pelt" into my daily life. Because I need it.

royaljunk

@Valley Girl "There better be a FYCraggyDudes.tumblr asap, so help me God!"

Someone please make this, I would follow it in a heartbeat.

UGH THE BACKWOODS BOYFRIEND REDFORD PIC IS EVERYTHING, GOODBYE CRUEL WORLD.

Lili B.

@Valley Girl You have to see The Sting. Those films should always be shown back-to-back or else they don't count.

Valley Girl

@Lili B. It shall be done!

thelittledeath

@royaljunk - It's up. Any idea how to set it up so anyone can post, and I just sort of moderate?
http://www.tumblr.com/blog/fuckyeahcraggydudes/

thelittledeath

@Valley Girl - Why did your comment disappear?

Valley Girl

@minijen I can still see it but there's a bunch of URLs in it so maybe it's trapped in the spam filter?

royaljunk

@minijen HUZZAH

I think as long as you make sure submissions are turned on, you'll just have to approve them! (Should be somewhere in customize, navigating Tumblr settings is such a headache.)

dj pomegranate

@minijen Please advertise this on the Friday Open Thread. Let's get this thing going, ladies.

thelittledeath

@dj pomegranate - Fer sure! I'll try to get some starter pics on tonight or tomorrow, just to prime the pump, so to speak.

Valley Girl

@minijen Okay, now a bunch of my comments definitely disappeared. I had posted links to the blogs I found:

fycraggydudes.tumblr.com is the one that someone thought to start awhile ago when AHP ORIGINALLY suggested it BUT it hasn't updated in a month.

fyeahcraggydudes.tumblr.com/ I just started and it's got a few posts made and queued.

fuckyeahcraggydudes.tumblr.com/ doesn't have any posts yet when I looked.

If the blog was created as a "secondary" blog, others can be added to be allowed to post. I can add people to fyeahcraggydudes.tumblr.com/ if they like.

katzenklavier

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FlufferNutter

Dennis Hoffman = Dustin Hoffman?

Valley Girl

@FlufferNutter Ha! I didn't even catch that. Dennis HOPPER is from the same silver generation but I don't know that his later life incarnation would be described as "refined" as much as Hoffman's.

FlufferNutter

@Valley Girl Yes! I am totally unsure if she meant Dennis Hopper or Dustin Hoffman, but now I really want to know!

BScottie

"Redford was born in Santa Monica, because of course he was." That's the best sentence I've read in a while! I love SoCH so much, thank you, AHP. :)

par_parenthese

"Bon Iver’s spiritual grandfather in Jeremiah Johnson."

And I die.

PatatasBravas

I laughed loudly/publicly at that one. Even though I would never want to make out with Bon Iver, though I want to bask in the glory of these Redford pics forever.

meetapossum

@PatatasBravas Robert Redford playing Bon Iver in BonIverErotica The Movie?

Equestrienne

Serious note: I often think about how if it weren't for Robert Redford and his pioneering development of the Sundance Institute, people like me (geographically, economically) would seldom have access to truly wonderful independent films. He changed the game!

Ragged But Right

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joie

@Ragged But Right YES YES YES. Gregory Peck is my perfect movie star husband. oof.

par_parenthese

@Ragged But Right

UNF.

par_parenthese

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par_parenthese

Don't mind me, I'll just be over here scrolling through #gregory peck on tumblr.

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@Ragged But Right YES PLEASE and also a secondary request for Leslie Howard.

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@Ragged But Right YES PLEASE and also a secondary request for Leslie Howard.

teaandcakeordeath

@Ragged But Right
I co-sign this request and that marriage license.
Also, if it's ok to ask, I'd love to know what happened to Judy Garland!

angryjones

As ever with your pieces, I have to immediately open a window for Netflix and start adding things to the queue. And it is a relief to hear someone else show some love for the movie version of The English Patient. The Fiennes! The Scott Thomas! The sum total of artistically clenched, perfectly sculpted jaws!

Lucienne

@angryjones Ohhhh, 90s Ralph Fiennes - I need to go lie down.

Anne Helen Petersen

@Lucienne Someday I will write something purely appreciative of this book/movie and what it did to me.

Lucienne

@Anne Helen Petersen I spent 2007 (when I was 18) mostly looking hungrily at Ralph Fiennes being sad and imperialist and impossibly in love against desert backgrounds. (I don't remember if there are actually any deserts in A Dangerous Man, but they are there in my memory so it stands...)

Bittersweet

@angryjones et al: I read the book and wondered how they would make a movie out of it...and then I saw the movie, and started crying in the first scene with the Hungarian lullaby music. Everything in that movie is gorgeous. Even the plane crashes are beautiful.

And 90s Fiennes, together with Colin Firth?!? *brain melt*

Atheist Watermelon

@angryjones Ralph Fiennes in that movie, holy crap... still probably my biggest screen crush to date!!!

angryjones

@Bittersweet It is just the most gorgeous movie ever, and the most gorgeous book ever. I spent a lot of time after I read the book and watched the movie wondering how to reverse engineer my life to wind up wandering the desert with a Hungarian count being in doomed, pretty love.

WineRanger

@Lucienne You and me both, sister. I just flashed on the scene where he carries KST's body out of the cave sobbing! I cried so hard at that movie, my husband took me to buy a purse to get me to stop crying after the movie. ETA: I told him I owed him two movies where things blow up for taking me to The English Patient. He replied, "Three."

Dancercise

@Lucienne
I rewatched Quiz Show for the first time since I was in high school and I could not stop staring at Ralph at Charles Van Doren. And it just dawns on me that Robert Redford directed that movie! And we come full circle.

JessAndNo21

@angryjones is there a more perfect regal human than KST. i want to be/look/act/sound just like her and then i usually put on sweatpants and eat pizza on my couch instead.

eiffeldesigns

@angryjones Yes. A thousand times, yes! I saw EP about a half dozen times in the theater (it helped that I worked at one that had it showing). I still love it- it is absolutely my favorite movie of all time. Also: Juliette Binoche is never not wonderful.

BosomBuddy

@angryjones Yep. AHP, you expressed perfectly how I feel/felt about the English Patient.

Better to Eat You With

@Anne Helen Petersen I had the my first-ever hard cry in front of my then-new-boyfriend-now-husband when we watched The English Patient all those years ago. I sobbed for hours. It probably wasn't all about the film, but still.

mynamebackwards

that ridiculous short-shorts/aviators/chest hair/barefoot/ping pong picture makes me feel a little short of breath.

Valley Girl

@mynamebackwards Yeah I wanted to say "Men, please start showing us your thighs again kthxbai" but nobody I'd be seeing in shorts looks like Robert Redford.

raised amongst catalogs

@Valley Girl I know, right?! Also, that publicity pic below his wedding photo...I can TOTALLY FEEL IN MY MIND what those arm hairs would feel like and I am INTO IT.

aphrabean

@Valley Girl I KNOW. To all this! OH man, I love those shorts. Love them.

OhMarie

@mynamebackwards I KNOW. I want some shirtless ping pong on my ping pong table, but also with these guys instead of the actual guys I know.

joie

@OhMarie I would gladly volunteer to be RR's chest hair fluffer.

Lucienne

You know how Prince Lír is described as having a face "as soft and pleasant as a marshmallow?" That is still all I get from Robert Redford, but, 1) I see what other people get now! 2) He would've been kind of a good Lír, huh? 3) Heeeeey, Paul Newman.

Rose_H_Tyler

Aah I haven't even read it yet but ohmygosh so excited a new Classic Scandals post! I want to inhale it all at once, but I will try to read it slowly and savor it.

PatatasBravas

All of those photos are unbearably handsome. I would climb all of them like so many trees (?)

blueblazes

Eeeeeeeeee!!!!! New SoCH! But do I ration it out or read it all at once like a glutton?!

Ragged But Right

@blueblazes As with all things, I tried to restrain myself, then binged on it immediately until it was all gone. Gone!

MeghanElizabeth

This was great! Now, can we get an in-depth essay on that jean cutoff ping pong game?

Also, A River Runs Through It! My dad rented it when it first came out and told me I wouldn't like it because it was very slow and I'd find it boring. Obviously I had to watch it and yelled at my dad, "I like boring movies!"

But nothing beats Butch and Sundance.

Bittersweet

Anyone else want to hear the long story of how Tom Skerrit came to be knocking on AHP's office door?

Atheist Watermelon

@Bittersweet um, YES...

Atheist Watermelon

@Didldidi although now i will forever associate Tom Skerritt with Shoes (omg shoes)

Dancercise

@Bittersweet
I'm surprised it took someone this long to ask!

Fiddle dee dee

@Bittersweet

I want to know how to get Tom Skerrit to come knocking on MY office door.

I'm Right on Top of that, Rose

AHP - where did you grow up? I grew up in Missoula, and we always giggled at how Lolo was treated as the bad, gambling place in A River Runs Through It. Also: "The world is full of bastards, the number increasing rapidly the further one gets from Missoula, Montana."

Anne Helen Petersen

@I'm Right on Top of that, Rose LEWISTON! I spent a whole lotta childhood on that stretch of 12 between Lewiston and Missoula, especially in the environs of Lochsa Lodge.

I'm Right on Top of that, Rose

@Anne Helen Petersen Oh man, Lewiston. Every time I visit that place I end up in a hangover fog on the drive home. And the Lochsa! Did/do you ever float the river? That water is wild.

Anne Helen Petersen

@I'm Right on Top of that, Rose YES JUST LIKE MERYL STREEP IN THE RIVER WILD

I'm Right on Top of that, Rose

@Anne Helen Petersen "Don't keep telling me how tough you are, Wade, just show me." (So badass.)

LMac

AHP - I love that you love The Way We Were. I have threatened to end friendships with people who refuse to watch it. Well, not really, but I might. Such an amazing movie, so smart and adult and MEANINGFUL, despite the weird sentimental 70s filming.

meetapossum

"homely Streisand" hahahaha, what?

Lili B.

@meetapossum

Anne Helen Petersen

@Lili B. YOU GUYS *I'm* not saying that Streisand was homely -- but she was repeatedly framed that way, both by the press and by the narratives of the films in which she starred. She's a whole story to be told there about otherness and Jewishness and her maintaining an outsider's attitude towards Hollywood, but that's for the future.....

fondue with cheddar

@meetapossum I know! Sure, she's different-looking, but far from homely! Plus, young Barbra reminds me of my mom when she was young, whose name is Barbara. And according to the baby book she put together, the #1 song on the charts when I was born was "The Way We Were." So there's always been a special place in my heart for her.

meetapossum

@Anne Helen Petersen Oh, I sort of assumed that; I just think it's hilarious that she would have been viewed like that at all.

Lili B.

@Anne Helen Petersen No, I know, totally! It's the narrative, not you. I just love Barbra and her sassface, and how she just WILL NOT play ball with the 1960s hotness-industrial complex.

does it need saying

@Anne Helen Petersen I would like to read this one, more so in the present and less so in the future. You know if possible and all that.

Amphora

@Anne Helen Petersen My mom grew up on Long Island in the '50s and still tells us about the one year in high school when all the girls in her class got nose jobs but her cause she was too busy reading Marx.

fondue with cheddar

@Amphora My mom grew up on Long Island in the '50's too! I don't think she ever got a nose job though because her nose looks like everyone else's in her family, including mine. Also, the shipyard probably didn't pay my grandfather enough to buy nose jobs for all his daughters.

Amphora

@fondue with cheddar Yeah, it was definitely a Popular Girl thing - what's hilarious is I told her about a friend who got a nose job a few years ago and she was like "People still do that? I thought it went out of style with girdles"

Bittersweet

@Amphora My dad grew up on Long Island in the 40s and 50s and has a world-class schnozz, but no one was all over his ass to get a nose job! Hmph. *feminist unfairness pout*

Linette

@Anne Helen Petersen All I heard was that eventually you will write a Scandals column about Streisand, and now I'm too excited to move from this seat until this magical thing occurs.

melis

"I had a farm in Africa."

"Where, exactly?"

"Oh, you know. Just Africa."

"I –"

"Not the desert part. The tree part. With the grass, and so on. Left of Asia."

"Oh."

"On the veldt, or something to that effect."

Anne Helen Petersen

@melis Mallory, your sister just told me the funniest story re: your mom and this movie on Twitter.

melis

@Anne Helen Petersen Mom LOOOOOOOOVES that line. Oh my god, my mom and that line.

PistolPackinMama

@melis If you want to get to the farm left of Asia, you need to make sure not to fall into the Rift. Can't miss it, it's a big, Great Rift. To the right of the really huge falls.

HeyThatsMyBike

@melis Excuse me, it is spelled AND pronounced "fahm."

Bittersweet

This was a really good column, but what I found interesting is that there isn't really any scandal around Robert Redford. He is what he portrays - handsome, decent, straightforward, all-American, with a loving wife and family. You never get the sense that there's any darkness, or even doubt, under the surface.

And maybe this is why Redford bores me? I mean, he's crazy handsome and obviously a sterling human being, but there's not any human weakness to relate to with him. With Paul Newman (and others), you get that "slight edge" that's so compelling. Interesting AHP should bring up Brad PItt, because he's like today's Redford in a way. They're like Greek statuary, maybe. I can admire both aesthetically, but they leave me cold.

Jinxie

@Bittersweet I was just about to comment on the lack of Scandal in this SoCH, but I actually like that about Redford! The others definitely have more interesting stories, but sometimes it's nice to love a celebrity without having any icky conflicting feelings.

aphrabean

@Jinxie I was very worried that there WOULD be a scandal, and was palpably relieved that all was as it seems.

BosomBuddy

@aphrabean I was waiting for the other shoe to drop the entire time. I'm glad it didn't. I'm happy that this SoCH was scandal-free; it's nice to punctuate the heavier items with something like this.

chevyvan

@Bittersweet I was also wondering if this should be classified under "scandals" but whatever. He's pretty! I liked reading about him and looking at all the pictures.

Diana

@Bittersweet

I had my heart in my teeth the same way I did with Paul Newman's column but sure enough they are just craggy, crinkly, delightful and beautiful American Men. I'm glad there's no scandal, it's nice to just appreciate something without any complexity or complication. If this column just became "Stories of Classic Hollywood" I would still devour every word!

dj pomegranate

@Bittersweet the scandal is what he does to our hearts with his crinkly eyes.

Blushingflwr

I haven't even read the piece yet, I just had to scroll through and look at all the pictures of Robert Redford. AHP, this is the second best thing that has happened today (the first was strawberry-rhubarb pie)

pterodactgirl

@Blushingflwr Now I keep thinking of some muddled metaphor where Robert Redford is the strawberry-rhubarb pie of men, and the rhubarb is his leftist leanings and the strawberries are his all-American-ess.

I just really really love strawberry rhubarb pie and looking at Robert Redford's face.

Lili B.

My mom keeps a little picture of Robert Redford taped inside her day planner. She covers it with a post-it note so no one sees.

PistolPackinMama

@Lili B. I love your mom.

I'm Right on Top of that, Rose

@Lili B. Oh my god your mom

HeyThatsMyBike

@Lili B. That's funny, because I was just trying to decide if I could tastefully decorate a future (currently imaginary) powder room with floor to ceiling pictures of Redford and a young Sean Connery. Paul can join them, too, but his will need to be in color, for eye-related reasons, and that might screw up the whole b&w color scheme.....

I'm sorry, you were saying?

PS In like 5 years (or 5 months?) I will be stealing your mom's idea.

Lili B.

@PistolPackinMama me too. :D

Nocs

@Lili B. That is the most delightful little thing I've read all day.

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@MarleneLuis42 Is your aunt Robert Redford's chest hair fluffer?

LaLoba

I give no quarter and no damns when it comes to Newman and Redford. I will sit back, gaze and sigh; I'll hear nothing of it. I will drink it up and let go of my body or my mind or whatever it is these half-sepia sunshine faced men inspire, and I will never apologize or even analyze these feelings!

martinipie

YES IT'S BACK!!!!! now to go read about the man who, when I first saw him all young and hot, made me realize what Brad Pitt was only TRYING to be...

YoungLeafedJune

Yum. I remember seeing Gatsby and becoming obsessed with his handsomeness, and then depressed because I knew it was thirty year old handsomeness and he probably didn't look like that anymore. There is a reporter at HuffPo that I think looks like him, though. Maybe he can be the second coming.

adriana

Aaaaand that's why The Robert Redford Standard is my favorite board to follow on Pinterest.

Megasus

Have Jon Hamm and Robert Redford been in a movie together? They should be. No wait, maybe not because the world would probably spontaneously combust from the handsome.

upsofloating

UGH I die from handsome! Seriously though, I love the breadth of the SOCH articles. By which I mean that I get to ogle Robert Redford, Cary Grant and Marlon Brando. Can we have a Gene Kelly? He is my first and greatest love, and I know nothing about him.

thelittledeath

Robert Redford + Natalie Wood + Tennessee Williams = This Property Condemned. One of the 10 DVDs I actually own.

TheBelleWitch

My feelings on this post:

royaljunk

@TheBelleWitch Thank you for bringing this gif into my life.

Valley Girl

@TheBelleWitch It JUST hit me that this GIF is of Redford. Just now.

laurel

@TheBelleWitch This gif was the first thing I thought of when I see this post go up.

katzenklavier

@Valley Girl WHAT. I always thought it was Zach Galifinakis looking oddly good.

Nocs

Man, eye crinkles are the best.

ohmy

@Nocs I KNOW. My ex had eye crinkles and he totally did not understand why I freaked out over them. They are just so lovely. Miss those crinkles, will have to bask in RR glory to make myself feel better.

Tits McGee is on Vacation

So this reminds me of watching the Oscars with my mom a number of years ago. RR was giving a speech (Lifetime Achievement?) and I was all - I don't get him. My mom pointed out every woman they showed in the audience and whether they "got" him or not, man do women show how obviously RR does it for them. It took a few years, but I GET him now.

Diana

I think it's funny that you only give Brad Pitt the tiniest tip of your cap, because I've maintained for years that Brad Pitt is aging, with spooky accuracy, into exactly what Robert Redford would have looked like in his dotage if he hadn't spent so much time in the Utah sunshine that his face started sloughing off. (Hint: DON'T google Robert Redford from the last 20 years.) COME ON LOOK AT THESE CRAGGY BEAUTIFUL FACES.

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UGH it's such a good book and so is Beryl Markham's.

stonefruit

"And give him head whenever he wants."
"And give him heh- ... help. Be a beacon in his sad and lonely life. Can you do that for Gunter?"

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ANNE. ANNE.

Shearling is back! It never left! SHEARLING FOR EVERYONE.

Even Prince Harry is like, DAMN GIRL, WHY DIDN'T I WEAR SOME SHEARLING?

you're a kitty!

My best friend and I watched Out of Africa while drinking a third of a bottle of scotch (talk about all the tears) and then I later saw Butch Cassidy while (again) pretty drunk, so for a while I wasn't sure if Robert Redford could possibly be as attractive as I thought he was. As it turned out, he is.

Sundae

I am sure someone has asked you this before, but I would LOVE for you to do a Classic Films 101 post with a list of maybe your 20 top films for the uninitiated? There are SO many I feel like I should watch, but I don't know where to begin. Plus it can link back to all these amazing classic Hollywood stars posts.

DDay

@Sundae Oooh, I would so love this. Last year I started a list of old movies I needed to get out from the library based largely on stuff you mentioned in these SoCH posts (and then my dvd player upstairs broke so I stopped. Maybe I'll move into this century and get netflix one of these days)

nowwhat

What about Redford in The Natural? Seeing that movie in a theater when I was a kid had a weirdly profound effect on me.

Re-watching it as an adult I was struck by how he doesn't actually say very much (part of his character of course) but physically seems to carry the movie, like some sort of hazy golden vision of mistakes and loss. Also, realizing that he has strikingly long legs.

Hammitt

My uncle (who is in no way famous nor particularly notable, just a pleb like the rest of us) was once at a cafe in the mountains with a friend. Robert Redford and some other movie star (I don;t know who) were seated nearby. The friend my uncle was with was in politics and knew them that way, so got up and went to say hi, leaving my uncle sitting alone. After the three of them had been chatting a few minutes, Redford excused himself, walked over to my uncle, introduced himself, and asked if he'd like to join.

Class fucking act.

Amphora

@Hammitt I hope your uncle never let his friend forget about it, too.

Hammitt

@Amphora

Said friend was in the room when I heard this story, 30 years after it happened, so safe to say - nope, totally didn't let him forget about it!

Tafadhali

Yaaaaaay, a new SoCH!

But now it is time for an UNPOPULAR OPINION about The Way We Were (containing spoilers):

I hate that movie so much oh my god.

It makes no sense, because high on my list of favorite things are 1) Barbra, 2) Robert Redford, and 3) sassy intelligent radical women, but I couldn't get over the ending -- how has he never met his ten-year-old daughter? -- or the fact that the first time he and Babs sleep together, it is textbook sexual assault on her end. I'm sympathetic to her as a character and I'm not surprised the film plays it as romantic, but if I wanted to watch someone get someone so drunk they don't know who they're with and then have sex with them without their consent -- oh, I never want to watch that.

I love the song, though.

Tafadhali

Also, everyone in the world seems to think my dad is Robert Redford's doppelganger -- they're both white dudes and there's something about the hair, I guess, but I don't really see it -- and we like to joke that he's our secret grandfather. I mean, he was born in the same small California town as my grandmother...in the same year...and then they both moved to Colorado at the same time... Coincidence? I think not.

Diana

I just thought I would mention that last night, inspired by this article, I rented The Sting to watch for the first time in years. I brought it over to a house of dude friends, none of whom had seen it before, and they were transfixed, 50% by the ingenious twists and turns of the plot and 100000% by the extremely liberal use of screen wipes. Everybody loved it. Dudes and ladies can all agree: Paul Newman and Robert Redford are the greatest.

shawbaby

UGH this is probably too late in the game (damn you, internet-less afternoon job!) BUT my dad did surgery on Robert Redford's son. Bob came to my house when I was 5. I called him a poopy-head.

The last time I saw him I was 19 and we were on the top of a mountain at his ski resort, Sundance, about to go down a run called "Bearclaw." He and my dad exchanged pleasantries and caught up for a bit, and then he snapped his googles back in place, turned to his companions and said, "C'mon, let's burn Bearclaw" before gracefully disappearing down the mountain.

SWOON.

NotTheJetSet

I just learned from Wikipedia that he and Lola divorced in 1985. (He has a new wife now.) Not that divorce equals scandal, but it's not quite the same as having been with the same woman since the fifties. So there you have it: even squeaky-clean Robert Redford has gotten divorced. NBD. (And if his divorce is mentioned somewhere above, I'm very sorry! I even did a search for "divorce" and "Lola" to make sure I hadn't overlooked it.)

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