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Wednesday, May 8, 2013

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A Chat With The Hairpin's New Editor, Emma Carmichael

As of next Wednesday, Emma Carmichael will take over as the editor of this site. (I'm not leaving, though — more like giving myself a big demotion. I'll just be in the attic, folding towels.)

Who is Emma Carmichael? I asked her this question.

me: Emma! So, you are going to take over The Hairpin.

Emma: Yes, I am. Wednesday, May 15, 2013.

me: The most important day of your life! Haha.

Emma: It is. And what are you going to do?

me: Jump off a cliff!! Just kidding, I'm going to stick around and do whatever you want me to do for a few weeks.

Emma: Yes. And then you'll disappear but not for good.

me: Yes. And then I'll sometimes write for the site, but otherwise be doing ... whatever it is that I'm going to be doing. Are you excited?

Emma: I am so excited and so terrified, which is good. It's going to be very different for me. I come from a Men's Site.

me: Yes!!! Excitement and terror.

I'm so happy and excited to ... "give" .. you the site? Ugh, what are the words.

Emma: "Transfer"

"Loan"

Ugh.

me: YouSendIt.

Emma: There is no internet language for that.

Oh, that's good.

me: So, you're coming from Deadspin, and before that Gawker.

Emma: Yea, and before that, Deadspin again.

me: And you're hilarious and smart and cool, and I know you're going to be so great, but I also don't want you to make me look bad.

Emma: And before that, the NYC Parks Department. And before that, college. Before that, womb.

me: Wait, the Parks Department. 

Emma: Yes, I worked at the Parks Department for five months. Public affairs. I wrote press releases and speeches for new playgrounds.

It was almost exactly like Parks & Rec.

me: I did not know that!

Emma: Yea. While I was there I worked nights for Deadspin and eventually got hired.

me: Do you think that you will delete the entire site?

You can if you want.

Emma: I think I'm going to turn it into a NASCAR fan site after you leave.

me: That is totally fine.

Emma: Okay.

me: What are some of your favorite topics?

Emma: In NASCAR, or more generally?

me: If NASCAR is No. 1, what would be 2 – 4?

You can also be like "no, that is not a question."

Emma: Okay.

No, that's a good question.

2 is like, hip hop.... and women in it....

me: Oh this would be a good place to link to your excellent articles on The Awl.

Emma: 3 is Women Being In Places Where They Are Treated Horribly.

4 is Dogs.

Here's a question. Did you ever think about eventually leaving the site, and is it scary?

Now that it's happening. Because this site is very much your ... child.

me: I know! It's a little scary, but I think it's also good.

I never really knew when or how I'd want to go, but then suddenly it felt like the thing to do, like someone else could do a better job. Which was bittersweet, because I don't really do anything else. And I didn't know what to do about that. But then when I got in touch with you, and you were interested in taking over, it made so much sense.

And I feel a little ridiculous getting into analogies about the site being my child. At first it was kind of a joke, but then it got more elaborate ("now she's a baby, now she's a toddler, now she's a teenage girl, and she's misbehaving!"), but it really has been my life for the past ... 2.6 years. Haha, I pretend like I don't know exactly how old it is. Ahhh, it's like those moms who are all, "My baby is 48 thousand seconds old."

Emma: And you launched in late October 2010. So that is 2.6 years of spending most of your waking life thinking about and working on one thing.

me: I hope that you'll like working on it, it's been the most fun and rewarding thing I've ever done.

Emma: Well for me, and I'm sure for lots of the Hairpin's readers, it's been a nice haven on the internet that I can turn to a few times a day and read something that is rarely, if ever, angry or loud or sarcastic, and that's been very nice to have. I've admired the Hairpin for so long, but I never thought I'd end up working here — it's so your site, and I was so happy at Gawker/Deadspin. But the minute I heard from you, it just felt like, "yes."

Watch the readers be like, "No. Peace."

me: Haha.

Well, thank you, and I am so glad to hear that. That's how I felt when I thought of you. Like, "Oh." "Yes."

Emma: So you're not worried I'm going to fuck everything up?

me: I'm not. I'm so certain.

Emma: I hope not. I'm nervous because it's something new and very different from what I'm used to, but that's only a good thing. I don't know if the readers need reassurance, but I do think I can maintain this site's personality while also doing my own thing.

So like, only 4 NASCAR posts a day.

me: No doubt.

Emma: I think a lot of my nerves stem from the fact that I've been editing at Gawker and Deadspin for the past year or so, and so I've been writing less frequently, and getting back into a mode where I'm writing every day and thinking more critically about things myself (instead of thinking through/working with other writers' thought processes) feels like a big adjustment. But we'll be FINE.

me: Yes! It will be great.

Emma: But every time I've thought about May Fifteenth in the past few weeks, I've gotten simultaneous butterflies and stomach flip flops. The best kind of anticipation.

me: I feel you!!

Emma: It's like a second date anticipation.

me: Well, you can move in on the second date, guaranteed.

Emma: Great, thanks!

me: Maybe can we do a flash round of questions, if that's fun?

Emma: Sure.

me: Spring or fall, as a season?

Emma: Biased because it is a flawless spring day in Vermont right now, but spring.

me: Right, also, you are in Vermont, where you are from. Haha, if all chats had exposition like this. "It is so great to chat with  you, my friend who is from Vermont but now lives in New York City and has long hair." Do you have a favorite TV show?

Emma: Ohhhh. I do the TV binge thing a lot. I've watched the entirety of The Sopranos twice, somehow. I played basketball in college and we'd always have to be on campus during winter breaks and so you'd watch like five series every vacation.

me: Whoa, I'm watching the Sopranos right now for the second time.

Emma: Recently I watched Top of the Lake and I really loved it. It was like a more sensitive Twin Peaks.

me: #fate

Emma: #FATE

me: Oh, nice.

Emma: Lol. Last night my mom found all these ants in the sink (in Vermont)

And she turned on the faucet and said, "Time for you guys to go for a swim."

me: Hahahaha.

Emma: Mom is a mobster.

me: That is amazing.

Also, it's funny how that's normal for Vermont, but if you were like "I had all these ants in my home" [in NYC], it would be like "Whaattt."

Emma: I do have a mouse.

In NYC.

me: Do you have any plans for it?

Emma: I'm not sure. Lately I've just been swearing at him. Like, "you motherfucker" whenever he shows up.

me: Yeah. Haha. I had "one" once, but I thought it was a girl for whatever reason. And she always came out of the oven.

Emma: Yea, they love the behind-the-oven hang.

me: Lol

Okay. I think this is good for now. As soon as I said I was going to ask you flash questions, I got even more nervous somehow, and now I can't stop weirdly laughing to myself.

Emma: Haha yea, let's call it.

I mean this whole thing is weird, but in a good way.

me: Yes.

I think that's the main thing.

Emma: Final question, what is your first destination post-Hairpin/post-NYC?

Like, Fiji?

me: HA

North Carolina!

For Emerson Beyer and Michael Bruno's Deviled Egg Pageant and White Pants Garden Party.

Paradise.

Emma: Where dreams are made of.

me: Exactly. SEE YOU NEXT WEEK!

You can contact Emma at emma@thehairpin.com with "pitches, ideas, and death threats."

514 Comments / Post A Comment

petejayhawk

This is the best news.

vittoriama

This is awesome XD @v

hallelujah

WHOA. WHOA. WHOA.

ETA: Emma you are totally great, and this is really exciting. But EDITHHHHH NOOOOOOOO

D.@twitter

@hallelujah I know! I'm want to be cordial here, but it's hard to ignore the feelings that the foundations of my entire world have been compromised. WHAT IS EVEN REAL, ANYMORE? Like, I'm sure if I woke up as an insect one morning I'd get used to it and even come to enjoy the extra legs, but initially I would be like HOLY SHIT I'M FREAKING OUT; EVERYTHING WAS FINE BEFORE; CHANGE IS BAD.
What I'm trying to say is, I'm sure I'll like this new Hairpin just fine, but there will probably be an adjustment period. I beg in advance for patience in the face of bitterly nostalgic comments....

CinnamonSwirls

@D.@twitter

Like Gregor Samsa...

PatatasBravas

You just gotta dance your way through the whirlwind, like Job, and Psy:

collier

@PDubs : NICE.

Ravi Sahni@facebook

@CinnamonSwirls One of our repeat customers has just offered this machine.
The photos will be here next week with the up to date impression Count. UP Board Result
When last inspected there was no damage found.

Josh is like Germany Ambitious and Misunderstood

hi emma! im josh. you'll know me as 'that one boy commenter who says stupid things for attention a lot'

celeec4@twitter

@Josh is like Germany Ambitious and Misunderstood With the really long name.

Nicole Cliffe

@Josh is like Germany Ambitious and Misunderstood USE SOME CAPITAL LETTERS WHERE IS YOUR SELF-RESPECT.

Josh is like Germany Ambitious and Misunderstood

@Nicole Cliffe probably in the 5th grade at my catholic school where there was a medium sized hole in my gym sweatpants and everyone could see my butt and i decided that my identity was gonna be 'Guy Who Is Really Good At Yu-Gi-Oh'

truelove

@Josh is like Germany Ambitious and Misunderstood
if you had said "jewish" school instead of "catholic school" i would be having a freaky OH MY GOD IS IT YOU moment right now. but i am glad-- be glad?--you were not alone in that 5th grade moment of sweatpants butt failure by any means. oh, guys.
i was just thinking the other day about how precious this site is & how can it stay the same & now one by one you're all slipping away, but not really i know. i guess this is the way of things. a little sad, but also exciting.

Danzig!

@Josh is like Germany Ambitious and Misunderstood EXCUSE ME

truelove

@Josh is like Germany Ambitious and Misunderstood
yes, please. i have long laughed at these "stupid things you say for attention" a lot, from a quiet afar. hello!

Josh is like Germany Ambitious and Misunderstood

@Danzig! like omg danzig i can have more than 1 bestie ok???

@truelove yay hi!!!

Danzig!

@Josh is like Germany Ambitious and Misunderstood no you don't understand I am the attention-seeking boy around here, and I will fight you, in public

truelove

@Josh is like Germany Ambitious and Misunderstood
pretty sure if you guys fight in public you both maintain attention-seeking boy status. plus, then you'll be the attention-seeking boys that fight when a new girl enters the room, hooray! (if that is what you are into-- all good-- but then... how *else* does one welcome a new lady?)

Josh is like Germany Ambitious and Misunderstood

@truelove of thats the case, ill fight*

*throw a few punches/kicks, then take a dive so i get taken care of

Danzig!

@Josh is like Germany Ambitious and Misunderstood yeah that's right, I'm a winner, everybody look at me

abigailnicole

WELCOME TO OUR INTERNET HOUSE

funfetti

WHAT IS HAPPENING??? Just kidding... Welcome Emma! Farewell(?) Edith!

funfetti

@funfetti

funfetti

@funfetti Upon further review, perhaps this one instead

SarahP

Of course Edith's first thing to do away from the Hairpin involves deviled eggs, of course.

Rock and Roll Ken Doll

Oh, THAT Emma Carmichael! This seems likely to go well.

the upstairs girl who frowns at the piano

EMMA! I've loved you on Deadspin, and when I heard you were leaving there, I crossed my fingers that you'd end up some other place I love. And you have! Welcome.

Signed,
a mostly lurking fan <3

hallelujah

@the upstairs girl who frowns at the piano Yes! I love Deadspin, and this is just a perfect collision of two great internet places. If only Edith could stay!

Lu2
Lu2

@the upstairs girl who frowns at the piano Did you get your name from that one thread of Texts from "Pride and Prejudice"?! :D

melis

@the upstairs girl who frowns at the piano BLESS YOU

Lu2
Lu2

@the upstairs girl who frowns at the piano Hurray! :D

katiemcgillicuddy

OK first...Emma Carmichael is awesome, and I welcome our new overlord (especially because, oh how I've loved you at Deadspin) but Edith! Please don't spend too much time folding towels in the attic, okay??

breccia

@katiemcgillicuddy edith you are not an attic wife you are a MAIN FLOOR wife

katiemcgillicuddy

@breccia DID YOU LEAVE BECAUSE OF MY ATTIC WIFE
IS THAT WHAT THIS IS ABOUT

breccia

@katiemcgillicuddy MY WEBSITE IN FRANCE DOESN’T EVEN HAVE AN ATTIC
IF THAT’S WHAT YOU WERE WORRIED ABOUT

iceberg

TOO MUCH CHANGE WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO ME???!!!

Uh I mean, Hi Emma. I'm The One With Triplets (Who She Won't Shut Up About).

SarahDances

@iceberg I know! I am trying to not be nervous because I'm sure Emma is going to be awesome, but now that we've lost Jane, Nicole, and now Edith will be semi-going away (?), I AM nervous! <3 U HAIRPIN, NEVER CHANGE!

Josh is like Germany Ambitious and Misunderstood

@iceberg LETS ALL INTRODUCE OURSELVES YEAH!

Emby

@Josh is like Germany Ambitious and Misunderstood THIS IS MY CHANCE TO REINVENT MYSELF. I am Guy Smooth, perennially early-30s secret agent/fireman/romance novelist who's lived all over the world but has finally settled in Key West with my boyfriends Felipe and Matchbox Joe. For kicks, I raise turtles in my bathtub and name them after literary contemporaries of Shakespeare. (Yes, of course one is named Ben Jonson.) All my comments are written in an obscure iambic meter known as pasquali.

Josh is like Germany Ambitious and Misunderstood

@Emby wait yr not a old black and white man with a beard and hat

fondue with cheddar

@Josh is like Germany Ambitious and Misunderstood RIGHT ON!

Miss Maszkerádi

@Josh is like Germany Ambitious and Misunderstood

Continuing with the introducing/reinventing, I'm a profoundly strange but oddly compelling character from a turn-of-the-century Hungarian novel, whose father was a ghost and who has no patience for sitting around moping about things, and instead prefers to go off on adventures, and will find more to love in a tree than a person. But of course all the bravado is just a mask for crippling existential fear. So yeah, pretty much me.

Scandyhoovian

@iceberg SO MUCH CHANGE, SO FAST! WHAT IS HAPPENING AT THE HAIRPIN!?!??

*breathes into paper bag*

...

...

So, uh, hi, I'm Scandyhoovian, and I am bad at change. No, seriously though, I'm one of those weird first-generation Americans born to immigrant parents who has all sorts of random stories about what happens when your foreign mom tries to integrate but only does it kind of halfway, like when your foreign dad doesn't want to call a plumber but instead tries to do it himself and your toilet ends up held together with duct tape and prayers.

Scandyhoovian

Also I'm not sure if that's a good intro for me because I have done lots of interesting things like sprained both ankles simultaneously and lived abroad for a year and gotten an MA that I'm not using and been on a cruise that had a norovirus outbreak but there it is.

Josh is like Germany Ambitious and Misunderstood

@Miss Maszkerádi im an animated 80s businessman from the cult television comedy Futurama

stuffisthings

@Josh is like Germany Ambitious and Misunderstood I'm a dog astronaut who hopes to someday become a Hero of the Soviet Union. Also my wife is French and I'm not really familiar with the Game of Thrones books or TV shows.

breccia

@stuffisthings Hey Emma, I'm a menacing sugar glider who has somehow gotten to the top of your drapes and is holding a piece of metal in a way suggesting a soprano sax

Jinxie

@breccia I'm just a fat bird, chillaxing outside.

automaticdoor

@breccia I'm a DC Metro train going really fast. Which is funny because they never do.

Oh, squiggles

I'm a quizzical emu. Which is why I type slowly. I have to hunt and peck.

redheaded&crazy

i'm rupert grint

no really, i really am though.

meetapossum

@Jinxie I'm an elected potato.

cuminafterall

@meetapossum I'm looking down on you from the National Arboretum.

Josh is like Germany Ambitious and Misunderstood

@meetapossum i thought u were an avocado

Bittersweet

@Josh is like Germany Ambitious and Misunderstood I'm a Japanese forest spirit who roars and flies around on tops but is only visible to temporarily motherless children. I also have an awesome Cat Bus and I love umbrellas and acorns.

Slapfight

@stuffisthings I'm J.B Fletcher, widowed mystery novelist from Maine. These days I travel the world solving murders and occasionally hook up with dashing and distinguished gentlemen. I'm fond of jogging and a good cup of tea. If we become friends, it's more than likely you'll be accused of murder and I'll be obligated to clear your name. *Freeze frame on a shot of me laughing jovially.*

meetapossum

@Josh is like Germany Ambitious and Misunderstood No, I am obviously a potato! I was elected after the evil turnip king was overthrown.

smidge

@Josh is like Germany Ambitious and Misunderstood I am a dust/hair pile that has been given a menacing face and arms.

katiemcgillicuddy

This thread makes me worry less about this place changing. (I am the 3 half drank bottles of water in your house, I am frustrating, but I will keep happening)

Roaring Girl

I am a cupcake. I rule you.

Josh is like Germany Ambitious and Misunderstood

@meetapossum i keep thinking this is a schoolhouse rock reference but i dont know?!?!

fondue with cheddar

I'm hot and delicious. And also bad for your heart but you don't care because I'm irresistible.

iceberg

@fondue with cheddar Best OKCupid profile ever!

meetapossum

@Josh is like Germany Ambitious and Misunderstood It's a Big Bunny reference. No one ever understands my references from that, so don't feel bad.

breccia

@fondue with cheddar you are a CHICKEN, gosh.

Saaoirse

I'm a lobster telephone and I'm a-okay

flimflannery

@Roaring Girl I'm an inquisitive English Springer Spaniel.

Josh is like Germany Ambitious and Misunderstood

@meetapossum i feel like we're def closer as friends now

Jinxie

@fondue with cheddar You sure are. Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

meetapossum

@Josh is like Germany Ambitious and Misunderstood <3

Hot Doom

I'm Doom, and I'm Hot and take glamour shots of myself.

fondue with cheddar

@breccia I only want you to think I'm a chicken. That's how I lure you in.

TheLetterL

Hello, I'm the 12th letter of the alphabet, and I am mysterious. (I also have to count on my fingers to remember I am number 12.)

Lustful Cockmonster

@iceberg Oh hello Emma, I am a lustful cockmonster who is also a jaunty little gnome. Welcome.

dj pomegranate

@iceberg Hello, I am a delicious and succulent pomegranate. I used to be a mysterious woman wearing a mask. Hi Emma! Goodbye (sort of) Edith!

FulanaDeTallcan

@Josh is like Germany Ambitious and Misunderstood I am Cuban feminist installation artist Ana Mendieta. I make stunning in situ sihouettes, rub blood on walls and enjoy wearing mustaches made of spirit gum and the trimmed tips of my friend Morty's hair. I would comment approximately three times more than I actually do, but I keep forgetting my Hairpin password.

fondue with cheddar

@dj pomegranate Your picture is still a mysterious woman wearing a mask, so I guess you're both now?

I used to be Mr. Banana Grabber!

SarcasticFringehead

I'm partying blissfully, unaware that my world is about to come to a sudden and devastating end.

(...haha oh god.)

dj pomegranate

@fondue with cheddar Odd, on my screen I am a succulent pomegranate...luckily, this only adds to my mystery!

milominderbender

The other commenters our just pupits, pulling yours trings. How old was Jesus when he died? 33. How old am I? 33. Trust and believe.

(I've been saving my favorite quotes from comments around the internet and this felt like the time to let some of them shine.)

Ellie

I'm escaped convict and celebrated actress Lindsay Lohan. I enjoy cocaine and double penetration.

fondue with cheddar

@Ellie I didn't realize that was LL! I always wondered but never thought to ask.

Confession: I'm really not made of cheese, I'm just a chronic oversharer and an old. I'm still mouth-wateringly delicious, though.

Ellie

@fondue with cheddar It's actually porn actress Scarlett Fay, in a promo shot for the Lindsay Lohan porno. I love this picture. (There is an uncensored version, but I find the pink stars in lieu of blackout bars really charming. I would link to the whole picture, but am at work.)

fondue with cheddar

@Ellie I actually thought the stars were a bikini or underwear, but the reality is even better.

purefog

Hi Emma! I am a small black dog with a slightly quizzical expression. I don't bite, in fact, I don't have a mean bone in my body. You're gonna love my ears.

MarianTheLibrarian

@fondue with cheddar So, this is COMPLETELY off topic, but with everyone's icon/avatar/little picture thingy being so tiny, I will go for months and months thinking that someone's picture is one thing, and then I move my face 4 inches closer to the screen and am amazed.
All this is to say that your picture has always looked like a baby chick standing in front of a yellow background, and then I just leaned in (yeah I leaned in!) and realized it's some delicious food presumably in a cheddar fondue. My mind is once again blown.

meetapossum

@MarianTheLibrarian OMG. I thought she was joking before.

Fonduie, you'll always be a baby chick to me.

MarianTheLibrarian

@MarianTheLibrarian Apparently I wasn't off-topic because after I posted that, I realized everyone was writing about their icons!

I'm a sexually repressed librarian, but once a smooth-talking man shows up, I melt.

MarianTheLibrarian

@meetapossum I never realized you were a potato! I always thought you were a rock.

metermaid

@iceberg: And I'm Paul McCartney in an oddly technicolor picture, with his very 1950s swim trunks zipped down in a provocative fashion.

Hello everyone, I am not embarrassed to show you all my nips.

Faintly Macabre

@metermaid I AM SPARTACUS.

darthvadersmom

@Josh is like Germany Ambitious and Misunderstood i'm darth vader's mom, not anakin skywalker's. it's an important distinction.

nowwhat

Hello I am a video still brought to you by Robyn and Diplo.
Also, I take the bus to town, I sit in the back and talk to no one.

EpWs

I am an Everpresent Wordsnatcher

subtleknife

Hi Emma, I'm a neatly folded pile of yak blanket entreating you to FEEL ME DEAR HUMAN.

(Also a long-time reader who only recently dared de-anon and register.)

New Hoarder

@Roaring Girl From 9-5 M-F I morph into the monster that is Andy, a super hot, hip, and whiny 16-year-old that rules an ironic mock-'80s Jewish summer camp.

fondue with cheddar

@everyone DUDE, MY USERNAME IS LITERALLY A DESCRIPTION OF MY PICTURE WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM

Just kidding, <3 u all!

@New Hoarder You're like, cut. From marble.

OwlOfDerision

@meetapossum I AM A TINY STICK-CHILD ON FIRE.

breccia

Edith, can I hug you? I'm gonna hug you.

Mariajoseh

I sometimes worry about my emotional investment in this site an how I really FEEL ALL THE FEELINGS after every big change. So I'll just say: Welcome, Emma! and Edith, you are the best and I'll miss your writing.

themegnapkin

@Mariajoseh same. Edith! My heart is hurting.

Angry Panda

@Mariajoseh Me three. And I haven't even been commenting that long. I just hate change, I guess. Good luck with whatever you do next, Edith! And welcome, Emma!

themegnapkin

@themegnapkin not to say I'm not happy Emma is coming, just that I'm going to miss Edith terribly.

The Lovecats

@Emma & @Everyone

I am the best. song. ever. Very long time lurker, very recent commenter.

ETA: Very terrible pin pal - sorry pin pal!

Moom

@The Lovecats I am the worst pin pal also but I have been thinking I should get around to writing to my pal again - they know that right? And a longtime lurker (sounds like a Monkees song). And I am a terrifying but tiny tin soldier.

Angry Panda

@Moom I've been the absolute worst pin pal, too. :-(

stuffisthings

What's a Nascar? Is that a Game of Thrones character?

RK Fire

@stuffisthings I love you.

Josh is like Germany Ambitious and Misunderstood

@stuffisthings NASCAR is what my grandpa filled his life with when he realized he didnt love my grandma anymore.

its a kind of fruit?

Nutellaface

@stuffisthings Nascarstark

RK Fire

@Nutellaface House words: "We ride"

DoMark

@Nutellaface JAJA!

A. Louise

@stuffisthings Lord Redneck of Nascar, their sigil is 2 liters of cola resting on a wheel, slashed with nachos, then entirely covered in all the major brands of Westeros.

Their house words are: "Get 'er done."

Bebe

@stuffisthings OK, I know it's weird to reference decades old pop culture, BUT, there was a Frasier episode where Niles pronounced it "ness-CAHR." (With a pseudo French accent, like how your mom probably says "Tar-jay") For some reason that cracked my sister and me up, so we allllways say it that way now.

And I think it's a branch of the French Foreign Legion.

Jolie Kerr

THIS IS THE BEST EMMA EMMA EMMA EMMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH

Jolie Kerr

(Oh yeah, you too Edith. Also the best.)

Emby

Oh, cool! I like Emma a lot!!!

But, question for the new overlord: How in the tapdancing jesus did you survive Deadspin commenters for so long??? Seriously!!!

robotosaur

@Emby I always assumed Gawker pipes nitrous oxide in through the air vents.

Jolie Kerr

@Emby Oh please, they're pussycats. Actually, they're more like porcupines: if you stroke them in the right direction all will be well, but if you don't? PRICKLES EVERYWHERE.

par_parenthese

@Emby I like to imagine her scrolling through Hairpin comments and alternating between laugh-kissing the screen and sobbing for joy.

purefog

@par_parenthese
And how could she not?

leonstj

@Emby +1

katiemcgillicuddy

@leon s Can I +1 your +1? Is that allowed?

Little_Lakes

@Emby My big fear (while I'm sure I'll enjoy Emma) is that her arrival will bring the crap Gawker-ites over to the 'Pin and EVERYTHING WILL BE RUINED!

demondoll

Welcome, Emma! And big BIG love to Edith <3

PistolPackinMama

@demondoll Exactly. Congratulations to you both on a cool new adventure.

heroicdestinysquad

Whooooooooooooooa. Big changes, but could this mean more sports coverage on The Hairpin??????????? Because I could get super into that.

Emby

@heroicdestinysquad Right? I would welcome this development! Emma, let me know if you need a basketball correspondent who will unashamedly be a homer for the Suns!

katiemcgillicuddy

@heroicdestinysquad What is weird to me is that, I have a terrible sports addiction and yet...the idea that Hairpin would cover sports more doesn't necessarily sound good to me? I just...I love it so much the way it is? Change is scaring me!! God, what is wrong with me?
/updates fantasy baseball team

ETA: no, okay, I think I'm okay, do you need someone to write about the NL East?

heroicdestinysquad

@Emby YESSSSSSSSSS! I will gladly liveblog Sunday football with a particular focus on the greatness of the Vikings and the annoyingness of the Packers

juksie

@heroicdestinysquad sports coverage/vikings love? i'm gonna sit by you if that's cool

claire@twitter

@heroicdestinysquad I volunteer as NHL tribute

Lily Rowan

Maybe we can get a sports advice column?????

redheaded&crazy

@claire@twitter please start a feature called "Know Your Hockey Boyfriend" I don't even know what it would be about but I know that I want it.

also can somebody point me to the hockey player calendar where they're all half naked and shit cuz like ... those uniforms are way not revealing enough. get on that nhl.

juksie

@Lily Rowan how to be a sports fan, like how to be a girl?? advice for both beginner and intermediate sports fans.

redheaded&crazy

@juksie oh man I could totally write how to be a sports fan for beginners!

step 1: pick a hockey boyfriend.

robotosaur

@redheaded&crazy Okay but everyone's hockey boyfriend is Lundqvist, right? Like maybe you pick someone from your team and you CLAIM Karl Alzer is your boo, but in your heart, it's still Lundqvist.

katiemcgillicuddy

@redheaded&crazy It would be about Carey Price and Braden Holtby, obviously.

It's not a calendar, but :

http://pinterest.com/hockeyhunks/shirtless-hockey-players/

redheaded&crazy

@robotosaur he is pretty dreamy. jesus. he is really dreamy. would like to request people stop wearing all these things that cover their dreamy features plzkthx.

katiemcgillicuddy

@juksie Oh my gosh, can I volunteer for How To Be A Sportsfan???

stuffisthings

@heroicdestinysquad I'm not a big fan of sports personally, but then again I also usually skip over the poetry posts. And I'm a man. WAIT A MINUTE HOW DID I EVEN GET HERE? who are you people

redheaded&crazy

@katiemcgillicuddy THANK YOU FRIEND.

redheaded&crazy

@redheaded&crazy also now that I know chara has DEM ABS I can kind of see the appeal. o.o

claire@twitter

@katiemcgillicuddy Carey Price foreeeever, Carey Price & PK Subban's bromance foreeeeever http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_luivrcETFD1qbx3o0o1_500.png

Miss Maszkerádi

@heroicdestinysquad What about, like Scandals of Classic Olympics?

katiemcgillicuddy

@robotosaur Pff, Lundqvist. It's all about Holtby.

redheaded&crazy

@katiemcgillicuddy there's enough hockey boyfriends to go around folks!

You can all fight over ... those people, I will take my leafs boyfriends and live out my days in an incredibly hot big orgiastic hockey mess. see ya!

Blushingflwr

@redheaded&crazy If I had a hockey boyfriend I would not be able to watch for fear that he would get injured. This is, in fact, the reason I currently do not watch hockey (or football). The injury potential from all the crashing into each other and fighting is too high and I find it upsetting.

I will just have to have a baseball boyfriend instead.

redheaded&crazy

@Blushingflwr I also find it very upsetting. and stressful. This past week of playoffs hockey has me concluding that I am definitely not cut out to be a sports fan, let alone a leafs fan.

baseball boyfriends totally welcome! if you could just point me to the half-naked baseball players pinterest ...

triplea

@redheaded&crazy oh god I love this bc my hockey boyfriend is Jonathan Toews clearly

robotosaur

@katiemcgillicuddy Believe me, if Holtby and Lundqvist came into my house to battle for my hand, I'd call that a win-win.

katiemcgillicuddy

@redheaded&crazy http://pinterest.com/destej/little-somethin-called-baseball-3/

redheaded&crazy

@katiemcgillicuddy bless your soul

Mingus_Thurber

@katiemcgillicuddy That's like a hockey David Tennant. Obviously I have been missing out.

Jinxie

@katiemcgillicuddy All of a sudden I find myself more interested in following baseball.

RK Fire

@katiemcgillicuddy You are doing the Lord's work, yes you are. I'm still fanning myself from that ESPN cover picture pin..

katiemcgillicuddy

@Jinxie Oh, the upside of being a fan of boys and baseball is incredible, I promise you.

queenofbithynia

oh christ please don't bring sports into this.

But, if you do, and I can see why you might, please do not pretend that "sports" is a polite euphemism for "men's sports" like every other site, newspaper and human sports fan who talks about sports where I can hear them. In fact, I withdraw the please on that one.

Ophelia

@katiemcgillicuddy The best time I explained baseball to someone from rural Afghanistan.

RK Fire

@queenofbithynia I am guilty of this but it's good to remember.

katiemcgillicuddy

@RK Fire I somehow posted and then deleted a picture of Wieters with kittens for you, now it's gone, and I am too lazy to do it again, so you'll just have to google "Wieters kittens home plate".

RK Fire

@katiemcgillicuddy yessssss.. "I can't hold all of these kittens"

Edit: I thought there was a really awesome one of Adam Jones and a bunch of pit bulls, but that may have only existed in my mind.

Blushingflwr

@queenofbithynia That is an excellent point.

Choire Sicha@facebook

@katiemcgillicuddy holy shit i didn't know about that. *goes off to find Holtby fan forums*

polka dots vs stripes

@heroicdestinysquad When are applications for the Olympic Correspondents positions?

@queenofbithynia yes please if we're going to talk about sports don't marginalize the women's sports leagues

katiemcgillicuddy

@Choire Sicha@facebook Watching him flip his helmet off and throw water on his face is my favorite pastime.

katiemcgillicuddy

@queenofbithynia For what it's worth, I doubt we'll suddenly see a remarkable uptick in sports coverage, and I would be stunned if Emma wasn't equal opportunity.

queenofbithynia

@katiemcgillicuddy I wouldn't have thought so just on the basis of her being in charge, it was the sudden rush of enthusiasm in the comments that scared me a little. I would hope that any sports coverage here of all places would not be equal opportunity, though.

katiemcgillicuddy

@queenofbithynia Well, I just meant I would never think women's sports would take second fiddle to men's, that's all.

redheaded&crazy

@katiemcgillicuddy yes I realize my comments were pretty heteronormative.

what can I say ... I like hunky steamboats.

But hello, "Know your hockey girlfriend" and "baseball girlfriend" as well obviously! firstly! whatever! also, "something non-gendered and non-relationship related that somebody not me comes up with"

anyway I was mostly joking about the sports thing and I also would want it to be ladies first, that's the tag! and i feel like my comments came off not saying that, so i just wanted to say that.

katiemcgillicuddy

@redheaded&crazy I think you were just saying "hello pretty sports players" in the context that made sense for you. I also did not mean to be heteronormative, and I guess I was, too...but dammit, I've got a weakness for the cute hockey boys.

(but hello hockey girlfriend, Hillary Knight)

Rookie (not the magazine) (not that there's anything wrong with that)

@katiemcgillicuddy OMG YES CAN WE HAVE WIDE WORLD OF HAIRPIN SPORTS

MY PEOPLE

I would be all over that. All. Over. That. I would love it like Don Cherry loves xenophobia.

katiemcgillicuddy

@Rookie (not the magazine) (not that there's anything wrong with that) That is a lot of love!

sophia_h

@katiemcgillicuddy I could do a weekly column of Hot Baseball Dudes just from the Giants alone for like, six months. Then it would be all Matt Kemp and Brandon Phillips and maybe Ryan Braun not dressed terribly and Bryce Harper from his better angle and okay I swear I know stats and things too, baseball just has a lot of eye candy right now.

catsuperhero

@katiemcgillicuddy AL CENTRAL CORRESPONDENT RIGHT HERE.

Also:

I'm the blue canary in the outlet by the lightswitch.
Who watches over you.

tealily

"...it's been a nice haven on the internet that I can turn to a few times a day and read something that is rarely, if ever, angry or loud or sarcastic..." -- YES! I hope the tone carries through. And best of luck to both Edith and Emma!

redheaded&crazy

I am just gonna second BIG love and BIG hugs to Edith! If it weren't for the hairpin, my life would be devoid of so, SO many amazing people. I am grateful for its existence every day!

Welcome Emma! :D I LIKE DOGS TOO

redheaded&crazy

@redheaded&crazy does devoid mean what I think it means? :\

iceberg

@redheaded&crazy yes! it does.

redheaded&crazy

@iceberg AW YEAH.

Ophelia

@redheaded&crazy I think you mean, JEAH!

maybe partying will help

Hi Emma! Farewell soon Edith!

*devolves into weeping*

Emby

Also, Edith! Don't permaleave! No, don't!

Sierra

Excited for the change! :) So much respect to Edith for creating this amazing site!

carolita

Welcome, Emma! Welcome, welcome!
But, aaaaah, Edith. I'm going to miss you here, but hopefully not in life in general! (Have to admit my heart is a little clenched right now!)

kateek

@carolita My heart, too! I hope you'll write more again, soon!

kimberussell

Welcome and best wishes Emma! I wish for you that you'd have taken over at another time, a time when everyone wasn't leaving. Because I feel badly seeing your arrival and immediately being all, NOOOO EDITH!!

RK Fire

1) Edith, nooooooooooo

BUT

2) Congratulations to you both on new opportunities and ventures! Change is exhilarating and terrifying. :)

I'm RK, I live in Baltimore and I love cats, red pandas, sports (Ravens & Os & rugby union), and sci-fi/fantasy. I also get het up about race and equity and sometimes I get overly earnest/obnoxious about it.

iceberg

@RK Fire <3 u firie. I think you're just the right amount of earnest!

RK Fire

@iceberg Thanks, bergie--I <3 you too!

Rubyinthedust

Emma I didn't know who you were until I clicked on the link to your Awl articles and those have been some of my favorites the past few years!! Welcome.

HeyThatsMyBike

@Rubyinthedust Samesies! I loved that one about her being the stock photo girl quite accidentally.

Natzzzzzz

As someone who has followed Emma from Deadspin to Gawker and back again, you guys are very lucky!

Also, cats rule.

j-i-a

EpWs

@j-i-a Emma, if this doesn't become your new avatar, we will all be VERRA disappointed.

olivebee

Welcome, Emma! I, too, had a job doing PR/Public Info for a Large City Parks Department right out of college. Lots of press releases and photography of parks and playgrounds and summer camps. I was the "April" by default since everyone in my office was twice my age, and we sadly had no Ben.

Also, I just finished Top of the Lake yesterday, and I want to talk about it with someone, so...

Ophelia

Welcome, Emma!

allofthewine

This almost certainly falls into the category of "not my business", but can we get a real, non-jokey explanation as to why the site's four biggest contributors have jumped ship in the last handful of months?

It's almost more upsetting that there's a big elephant and no one is discussing what is even happening and why and WHYWHYWHY

Lily Rowan

@allofthewine I have no idea, obviously, but HAVE seen waves of people leave a job for no real related reason, more like, when one does it, other people start thinking "Oh yeah, I could do that. I'm not crazy about change, but if I did it myself...?"

automaticdoor

@allofthewine No, I am with you. It's really upsetting me and not because I don't like change. Change is good! Just, what is going on here?

han
han

@allofthewine Seeeeriously. I'm guessing 5 years from now we'll find out about some weird Awl drama or something?!

robotosaur

@allofthewine It's double weird cause it also just happened over at the AV Club and now I think maybe all internet writers have a terminal disease and just don't want us to be sad about it. Which is pretty sweet of you, internet writers.

iceberg

@allofthewine I think it's probably more a function of life-stages? like, baby-having, book-deal-getting, more-money-needing, striking-out-on-one's-owning are just things that happen at this point in people's lives - if I'm not mistaken all the ladies we miss / will soon be missing are of pretty similar ages?

RK Fire

@robotosaur Ah yes, the terrifying Internet Writer Plague.. ::shudders:: I hear that in their last days, they have an eerie compulsion to do shots of Qream while cleaning their homes.

Josh is like Germany Ambitious and Misunderstood

@robotosaur oh my god the mass exodus of the av club is so weird!

iceberg

@Choire Sicha@facebook Somehow I knew Mike Dang would be the One Who Always Brings Cake On Your Birthday.

This is my new username

@Choire Sicha@facebook Awww Mike Dang

kimberussell

@Choire Sicha@facebook Thanks for weighing in, Choire! It's not just Edith and Nicole: it's Jane (who pretty much left without writing a goodbye post), and Jolie who wrote more here than just the clean person column (at least she's still here in commments), and I haven't seen Esther W. in an age. There are many talented writers contributing now, but those women were voices that I recognized from the first paragraph and they each contributed something that seems missing now. Or maybe I'm an Old who is used to sites like BoingBoing and MetaFilter where the staff pretty much remained the same.

allofthewine

@kimberussell I'm glad you @-ed Choire because that confirms that I'm not going crazy and he DID reply to this subthread, even though his comment is now gone/deleted.

Is it wrong that the deletion makes me more paranoid? (I'm having a rough week, sorry xox)

honey cowl

@allofthewine Yes thank god because I was so confuuuuuused.

katiemcgillicuddy

@allofthewine I really want to see this Choire comment, why is it gone/now I'm paranoid.

Jinxie

@katiemcgillicuddy Ditto on all of that, lady.

phlox

@kimberussell Yes, and Carolita Johnson and Lucia Martinez and Katie Heaney too!

Megasus

@phlox OK y'all, this is the secret -- Hairpin doesn't pay for content, most of these people have left for jobs that do. (Most websites do not pay for content or do not pay well, so this happens a lot).

HeyThatsMyBike

@allofthewine What did he saaaaay? Something about Mike Dang being great?

RK Fire

@HeyThatsMyBike

We learned that Nicole and Melis' venture was a bit of a surprise to the Powers that Be, and Mike Dang can't stop himself from bringing cakes every time it's someone's birthday.

Nicole Cliffe

@robotosaur (dry, dusty cough)

breccia

@HeyThatsMyBike he said there's no drama, only lots of cake

HeyThatsMyBike

@RK Fire Hooray! Helpful critter award.

Nicole Cliffe

@This is my new username Mike Dang is actually the nicest person in the world.

allofthewine

@Megasus I guess I'm more curious as to why they are all leaving *right now* vs. why they would leave. It certainly makes sense to pick a paid gig over unpaid (*get get get, get that paper*), but the timing of the departures seems curious.

redheaded&crazy

@allofthewine it's not them, it's us!

*sobs*

smidge

@allofthewine How did Choire make his comment disappear what is this devilry

Disco Sheets

@allofthewine Thanks so much for asking this, because I thought the timing of everything was really... curious as well. Also I just want to jump in on this thread now to see discussions of the invisible Choire comment.

Zwetschke

@redheaded&crazy OH NO!!! That's what I was worried about... Will they get back together if we're really, really good??

TheclaAndTheSeals

@Nicole Cliffe Is this is the place where I can tell everybody that last night I dreamed Mike and I were BFF but then he started giving me lingering hugs and I wanted to be like "uhh you know I'm married" but didn't want to seem paranoid because maybe he's not interested in me, why do I always make it about myself, etc.?

Anyway guys I had that dream and between that and this announcement I have a lot of feelings today.

kimberussell

@allofthewine Yeah. I felt really dumb when I posted my reply (I was delayed in my posting because, well, work) and I saw that his post was deleted. At least I know it wasn't just me who saw it!

Choire Sicha@facebook

@smidge WHY ARE MY COMMENTS DISAPPEARING?? WHAT THE FUCK.

You witches did this to me!!!

Heh. (Kidding don't hurt me.)

(I will talk to the tech guys, I DON'T UNDERSTAND.)

HeyThatsMyBike

@kimberussell Ooh go here http://thehairpin.com/user/20517/fb707555191 and you can see all his thoughts. It is like he is screaming into an abyss. CHOIRE I SEE YOUR COMMENTS! OH GOD HELP HIM, TECH PEOPLE!

Choire

*HOLDS OUT HAND*

*FALLS DOWN FACE OF GIANT ICE WALL*

*DIES*

Choire

(omg i was getting marked as spam. shame.)

HeyThatsMyBike

@Choire That is a poetic level of amazing.

Nicole Cliffe

All his missing comments are about what a cunt I am! And then he dissed Robyn!

Nicole Cliffe

No, seriously, though, I totally janked up Emma's transition with my timing, and I left because I wanted my very own site (w/ Mallory) and I make snap decisions. I can't speak for anyone else who's left, but I'm not mad at anyone and I'm excited for Edith to spend more time writing and less time Wordpressing, and to see what Emma creates here.

Jolie Kerr

@Nicole Cliffe Just like you, I can't speak for anyone but myself, but generally yes it's just a matter of a (good? bad? terrible?) convergence of separate decisions all happening at once.

For me, the decision to move on was an extraordinarily difficult one, but one that was essentially made for me. Background: As The HP moved to being a more mainstream Lady Site, I became increasingly uncomfortable writing about cleaning while surrounded by discussions of false eyelashes, weddings, diets, etc. instead of discussions of dioramas, ghosts, spiders and whether or not you wear underpants under tights and hose. (Yes, always yes.) Because feminism. I suggested that AaCP might run on The Awl as well as The HP; the interest was not there. Subsequent to that and unrelated, I was dropped as an Awl contributor. So I took a hint, pitched the column elsewhere, Deadspin and Jezebel said yes, and here we are. Taking a hint, I think, is one of life's most underrated skills.

The night before the new column launched, however, Edith and I spoke in person and agreed that after six months I would take stock of how things were going at Gawker Media (they're going really great, you guys!) and see. I also had several pitches for her that I was sitting on until I'd cleared out other projects. We also agreed that I would be back for the Hallowe'en Advent Calendar, no question.

Obviously that's all changed and that is A-OK. Emma needs to run HER site HER way. Also: Emma is a treasure and I will break your kneecaps if you don't treat her right.

I love The Hairpin, and as many of you have noted I have made an effort to be present in the comments since my departure. The reaction to my departure post was very difficult to read. I have rarely seen such vitriol from this community, and it upset me terribly. I have been blessed, however, to see so many of you in the comments in my new home. I cannot say thank you enough to everyone — EVERYONE — involved in this site for the incredible opportunities that came my way because of my contributions to The Hairpin. Just like Nicole, I'm not mad at anyone. Edith is invited to my wedding! MOMMY AND CLEAN MOMMY AND BOOK-LOVIN' & FANCY-LEARNIN' MOMMY LOVE EACH OTHER VERY MUCH.

Anyway! I think I liked it better when I was lying on the floor thinking about glitter lip gloss.

iceberg

@Jolie Kerr I think we've gotten better at dealing with it as each Mommy leaves us oh god that's so bleak. Clean Mommy, you are well-loved here.

thebestjasmine

@Jolie Kerr What vitriol? I didn't see any of that.

allofthewine

@Jolie Kerr you are extremely well loved and I'm sorry that anyone (especially here) made you feel differently. You are great, seriously. Ask A Clean Davhshund is my favorite thing ever.
@nicole cliffe Thanks for your answer. I feel a lot better now.

Also, while we're @ it, @Emma, welcome! I look forward to seeing what happens under your reign.

HeyThatsMyBike

@Jolie Kerr I hate that you were upset by that thread. I hope you were able to see the massive amount of love for you in that post, too (though I, perhaps like you, tend to remember the one mean comment when there are 600 nice ones).
Also interesting to hear that you see the site as getting more mainstream-y. I hadn't thought of it that way, but it makes sense. I hope that Emma will let us continue to talk about ghosts and dioramas while finding her own voice and groove here.
Also I will forever take great pride in the fact that I introduced you to the idea of toddler sneakers as dryer balls. Like seriously, so much pride in that.

I didn't think you all up and decided to hate one another, but I'm glad to hear in writing that's not the case from two of the horse's mouths (insert Nicole equestrian joke here).

Anyway I love all the mommies and have loved being a part of this community. I don't see that changing with the masthead so long as I keep seeing many of you fine people in the comments, and so long as Emma doesn't turn it into a place full of articles on how to land a man in 5 easy steps (I KNOW YOU WON'T EMMA!).

HeyThatsMyBike

@thebestjasmine Most of it was related to the fact that she was moving over to Gawker Media sites, and not targeting her as a person or writer. It did have to be tough to be very excited about a new role, and to have some people in a community that was generally so supportive of you you turn up their noses at your decision based on some of the details of that new role.

wee_ramekin

@HeyThatsMyBike & @Jolie Kerr

Man, it makes me sad that those comments were taken to be vitriolic. I just re-read that thread, and my impression was not that people were angry at Jolie, more just that they were sad that one of their favorite writers was leaving the site. Jolie, I'm sorry that you felt attacked :(.

thebestjasmine

@wee_ramekin That's such a nice way of putting it. But there was no vitriol at all there! Sadness for Jolie leaving, and a few boos to Jezebel maybe, but not even vitriol towards Gawker in general.

redheaded&crazy

@Jolie Kerr I just want you to know that I still make my bed every god damn day, you are a magical creature of wonder, NEVER 4GET

(pretty sure I said this exact same thing in that old thread, BUT I'M SAYING IT AGAIN BECAUSE IT IS SO INCREDIBLE TO ME)

Jolie Kerr

@all: Apologies for being unclear, I meant that there was vitriol directed at The Hairpin/Edith and that's what upset me. You all have been lovely to and supportive of me and I do not at all begrudge you the pouting and refusal to make your beds that stemmed from my decision to decamp for Gawker Ish.

HeyThatsMyBike

@wee_ramekin Yes, you said it better than me. I am sad that that was her takeaway, because we luuurve her!

ETA @Jolie Kerr Ok that makes more sense!

purefog

@Jolie Kerr
I am glad my gesture has not gone unnoticed. Not only have I not made my bed since the day you left, I haven't even changed the sheets.

katiemcgillicuddy

@purefog ARE YOU TRYING TO KILL HER

PistolPackinMama

@Jolie Kerr You are a lesson in graciousness, Jolie.

I am going to make my bed now.

For the second time today, because I took a nap earlier.

Killerpants

@Jolie Kerr I still make my bed every day too, and every day i can't believe i'm doing it. I was an avowed non-bed maker my entire life. Granted I make it very, very poorly, but it makes me happy every day nonetheless.

katiemcgillicuddy

@Jolie Kerr Damn, I hate that you felt uncomfortable writing here because it seemed like The 'Pin was moving away from it's roots and what makes it great (ghosts, spiders, etc). That's a little unsettling to me, mostly cause I've just been telling myself "things are just a in a weird transition right now on HP".

Anyway, you are great, and let me echo the fact that I'm sorry you were upset by any of the comments in that post. We love you!

(Emma, please let us keep the ghosts and the spiders, and can we bring back Rich? RIIIIIICH)

ThatWench

@HeyThatsMyBike
Is this an okay place to nudge open the door on where the site lands vis-a-vis the "mainstream women's magazine" metric? I think the 'pintariat can do that respectfully.

IMHO, I <3 Jane Marie (and everyone who has come through here), but it was her posts' subjects that always seemed the most likely to be found in conventional lady-media (weddings, makeup, etc). So with her departure, I've felt less "mainstream"? Or am I confusing timelines somehow here?

Jinxie

@katiemcgillicuddy With you on wanting to keep ghosts and spiders, but I'll trade Riiiiiiiich for the FOTs. We have had some epic threads lately and they bring me so much joy (and important time killing on slow work days).

missupright

@Nicole Cliffe @Jolie Kerr Thank you both for being so honest and direct with the comments section; I'll keep following you both wherever you may go, because you're brilliant.

I think, lately, the Hairpin has been feeling like the summer before you leave home; you've had years in your small town and you know eeeeeverybody and it's great and so easy, and then, one by one, people all start going off to their own colleges and new towns.

And you know that it will be amazing when you all get there, and you'll all still be friends! and it will be great!, and your circle of friends will only get wider, and your life will be bigger and better,

buuuuuuut for the minute, your friends are all splintering off to settle into their new circles, and you're still kind of frightened, and nervous, and what-if-it's-not-so-good, and it-will-never-be-the-same-again sad. Even though you know it will absolutely be alright, and probably better than ever. Still nervous. Even though it's for the absolute best.

thebestjasmine

@ThatWench The thing that I liked so much about Jane's posts was that they didn't feel like mainstream women's magazine posts at all! Sure, she posted about makeup, but in the way that real people, not magazine editors wear makeup, including women of color. When she talked about hair, she reached out to women of color to talk about their hair too (women's magazines do not do that). When she talked about weddings, it was "what is this crazy shit that people want me to put in my wedding??" not "OMG look at these peacock feathers that people want me to put on my shoes." In the same way that Nicole talked about being a mother in an awesome and interesting way, I hope that someone continues to talk about that kind of woman stuff in a way that we don't get elsewhere.

katiemcgillicuddy

@Jinxie Whoa, whoa, bite your tongue, FOTs aren't going anywhere cause if they do I'm going to have to throw myself away.

ThatWench

@thebestjasmine
I think we're in agreement, here, although I'm slightly farther into the "what are these crazy makeups people want me to put on my face?" camp, so those articles looked closer to the mainstream than to me from where I stand. (I acknowledge and think it's awesome that your position is also true, though!)

But "Ask a Clean Person" was pretty far from Martha Stewart Magazine, no? As someone who went as ammonia to my friend's bleach last halloween, "Clean Person" and "How to Be a Girl" and unexamined monogamy in all the "Ask a Guy/Lady/etc" are all subjects that I'd expect to see at my supermarket checkout stand, but "the solution to bold lipstick is more foundation" always struck me as mainstream-est.

I have no idea what my point is, and now I'm afraid of offending someone by calling them "mainstream".

thebestjasmine

@ThatWench I mean, I think what both Clean Person and How to be a Girl proved is that there's a place for mainstream stuff with a twist. My house is a mess and I don't care about cleaning in the least, so I wasn't really into Clean Person, but the random questions were what was entertaining, and is why I read. People love Jane and Nicole talking about makeup and mothering and weddings because they had a special voice, and would bring in a non mainstream perspective to posts about things we thought we knew about...or that we thought we didn't care about.

wee_ramekin

@ThatWench So, I never really read Jane's make-up columns for the technical advice, since I'm a very minimalist make-up wearer. I also never really bought anything from the Friday Bargin Bin, online shopping also not really being my "thing".

I did, however, read all of Jane's columns faithfully. She had such a hilarious and caring way of writing about things, and the way she imparted the information was so very far from your Typical Women's Magazine. The thing is: many women DO want to talk about make-up and clothes. Usually it is the same women who want to talk about tiny houses, feminist theory, dating, racial and class inequalities, bowls of hummus, motherhood, ghosts in cell phones, and what it's like to be adopted/have a mental break-down/get a colposcopy (PS - Jane wrote an article about that on the 'Pin).

To me, that is what makes the 'Pin different from the mainstream. The editors never try to deny that we get all het up about homophobia and anti-choice legislation, and they also don't try to deny that a lot of us care about nail polish and cleaning products. They don't set up things that are traditionally feminine as bad; they also don't try to sell us on the idea that the ONLY WAY to be female is to adhere as closely as possible to the jerkcircus's idea of what a woman should be ("leggy blonde", anyone?). There was absolutely nothing dissonant to me about reading make-up articles on the Pin, just as there was nothing weird to me about Asking a Spider for advice on my love life.

leonstj

@missupright - That's a cool analogy. I like it because, everything changes over time. I am insanely far from the target demo of this website, but I love it a lot - for the sort of "non-womens" stuff it did. I mean, I'm always down to read about other perspectives, which is a thing I enjoyed & learned from (as my comment community participation record shall show).

And my enthusiasm isn't like, some flat lined thing - it's a thing that changes over time, both based on editorial decisions and my own life. The thing for me, though, is (I feel like maybe this is a weird place to say this) as much as I am a really heavy participant in the commenting here (because it's great! This is a really amazing community of readers!) what keeps me coming back here, above all else, is the writing. And there's probably a lot of other people who feel the same way, both within the comments and all of those other repeat visitors in the analytics who never scroll below the author bios.

The community is great, and vibrant, etc - but it's a thing that mostly developed on it's own. I hope, as someone who participates, that it does - I'm curious to see where it goes! But that's also a separate curiosity from what I feel about the writing.

Things will always change - I'm glad they do. Down this thread, there's all this comment on Bowie - we wouldn't have remembered him the same way if he'd been "Ziggy Stardust" Bowie forever. I think the biggest thing that keeps me coming back to The Awl & The Hairpin is that they DO change over time, when it comes to who the specific voices are you're hearing the most, the overall tone, etc.

I mean, there's only so many column inches to fill (ergm...I know 'permanent scroll' is a thing, but it's horrible). Maybe I'm crazy and weird - and please, I am just throwing this out there as how I see things, not as judgement on the way anyone else sees them, or saying it is the right way to see them - but I kind of like not knowing the inside baseball?

I mean, at the end of the day, this has been a place where I have been reading great stuff for over two and a half years. I'm so fucking glad there is change - not because I don't love Edith, Nicole, Jolie, Relationshapes, or any one of a million things that comes or goes - but because I do. I found those things here. Now, I get to find new things. That's pretty awesome.

HeyThatsMyBike

@leon s This is a great way to approach and embrace change. Thanks, Leon :)

thebestjasmine

@wee_ramekin " They don't set up things that are traditionally feminine as bad; they also don't try to sell us on the idea that the ONLY WAY to be female is to adhere as closely as possible to the jerkcircus's idea of what a woman should be" YES YES YES YES. This exactly.

sintaxis

@Jolie Kerr I really appreciate you taking the time to explain that. Myself and many other HP readers (especially die-hard feminists and lesbians) have felt the same way as the Hairpin became more mainstream. I know most people on this thread will say that it's totally okay to only talk about make up and boys and sometimes feminist-lite politics, and that's true, but HP definitely did a weird right turn into being very male-identified and very consumer-identified. It really means a lot to have that be articulated and recognized by you; I felt like I was being gaslighted every time I visit the site and think, "What happened?".

ThatWench

@sintaxis This is what I have been hoping someone would explain more, and the main point I was trying (and failing) to get at above. I've appreciated everyone's response at "this is what makes these things different from the mainstream" as well as "the willingness to embrace these things makes HP different from some of the other feminist sites".

But my confusion is: when did the Hairpin get more mainstream, and how did I miss that? I know there's been some egregious examples of this, and I've seen them shouted down in the comments, and since they mostly haven't returned, I considered them aberrations. I see a lot of the categories outline above (cleaning advice, makeup advice, relationship advice) as being "mainstream" for lack of a better term, but since the first two have gone away, I'm generally confused by this sentiment.

Which is, of course, to say: I'm not disagreeing with it, only seeking to learn something by understanding it.

purefog

@katiemcgillicuddy
I'M TRYING TO DRAW HER BACK!

Miss Trixie

@kimberussell And Carrie at the Awl! Totally agree with this thread. I think a lot of us have been quietly wondering about this stuff for a while. Not because we're nosy, but because we care.

Okay, maybe a *little* nosy. The Jane thing was weird.

In any case, nothing but respect for all parties coming & going. I'm excited to see how these sites change and grow.

Lily Rowan

WHAT.

Wow.

Huh.

Josh is like Germany Ambitious and Misunderstood

does this mean you'll go to prom with me edith

maebytonight

Welcome, Emma! And good luck, Edith!
Also, this kind of thing has been happening at my workplace, like people keep leaving unexpectedly and turning our world upside down and it's a little scary that it's happening here now but you know, I've still got Coca-Cola and Internet access so I'm guessing I'll be fine, I think, right?

fabel

Change oh god oh god SO MUCH, TOO MUCH, ALL TOO SOON. Too many changes!

But hi Emma, I'm sure you're great. I lurk a lot but then sometimes I don't, & I pop out of nowhere with comments that aren't very well thought-out.

PatatasBravas

a new adventure is beginning. excited and nervous!

iceberg

@PatatasBravas and a little nauseous.

HereKitty

Edith news making me so sad. Emma news making me so happy. I am confused. BANJO!

catsuperhero

@HereKitty Baaaaaaannnnjooooooooooo!

carolita

PS to Emma! - for the mouse, try to catch it, but those "humane traps" never worked for me. I've never been able to catch a mouse and release it into the wild, as desired. But if you do catch it, you have to have steel wool, spackle, and chicken wire on hand (if you have holes too big to fill with steel wool). Mice can crawl under a crack under moldings as small as 1/4 inch wide. You have to fill all the spaces before the mouse (or friends of the mouse) can come back! Also, you don't want to trap the mouse in the apartment with you, by closing off his exit. There's usually one behind the stove, probably where the gas pipe comes in, at the wall, or at the bottoms of radiator pipes, where they meet the floor (or ceiling). Though, by now, he may actually be living in the stove somewhere, especially if you never use it. Good luck! If all else fails, I recommend the Rat Zapper (it's humane, and I believe mice are promptly reincarnated as other mice, like, every five minutes).

Lily Rowan

@carolita I have found a sound deterrent thing really works. (There's literally no way for me to get all of the mice in my building and essentially no way to keep them all from getting into my apartment.)

carolita

@Lily Rowan I had some pretty sophisticated mice, I guess. Completely undeterred by the noisemaker thingy. But I've had a lot of success with persuading supers and landlords to let me in the apartment a day before moving in, so that I can inspect every inch of the place, and fill holes. It cuts down even on cockroaches (they come in through holes in walls, from your gross neighbors, too). I'm a determined person, and have even used rope caulk to stop up the gaps in the floorboards, etc. I've had maybe ten cockroaches in five years, and no mice.
Also, keeping the crumbs out of your oven and toaster is a really good way to just totally disappoint mice, so that they're just stop frequenting your place, and maybe spread the word. You'd be surprised how much free food there is in ovens and toasters! Even mine, and I"m totally obsessive!

Lily Rowan

@carolita Oh, thank goodness my mice are so stupid that I don't have to worry about toaster crumbs! (I had a cat until December, and as soon as he died and I cleaned away all of his scent, my apartment was suddenly OVERRUN with mice. It was horrifying.)

catwithglasses

@carolita I'm going to have to resort to plugging holes with steel wool. I live in a super old house with tons of holes, and so far I've been plugging the holes with cotton balls dipped in peppermint oil (supposedly it deters them? really it makes your house smell incredibly like peppermint, like kind of in a bad way). But the mice have started pushing/chewing the cotton balls out of the holes! Smart sneaky mice.

(Old-fashioned snap traps are also very helpful. Sorry smart sneaky mice).

Faintly Macabre

@kmc Snap traps are definitely the best for killing mice. My dad used to gently capture mice and drive them to the woods before realizing that it probably just made them die miserably. Now he uses snap traps. Glue traps are the WORST THINGS IN THE WORLD and should be abolished. They also now sell ridiculous disposable hunks of plastic that probably don't work well but are designed to keep your fragile eyes from ever seeing a dead mouse.

And I have no idea if peppermint oil scares mice, but it definitely freaks out ants!

carolita

@kmc not to turn this into a mouse thing instead of an Emma thing, but Emma does have a mouse and we want to help, so one last bit of advice: the steel wool should be the coursest grade you can find, as mice don't like chewing on it. Use a long skinny screwdriver or ice pick to stuff it in the smaller holes.

carolita

@Faintly Macabre I got this, but then I moved to a place where there were no more mice, so I never got to see if it worked. The only mouse I had died of poisoning, alas, it was very sad. I had forgotten that the exterminator had tossed some poison behind the stove till it was too late. I never wanted to see a little mousie suffer again.

catwithglasses

@Faintly Macabre Seconded on a)glue traps being terrible and b)those plastic things being ridiculous. They are a waste of money and will probably make the tiny mice laugh at you as they scamper around them to go poop around your house.

Faintly Macabre

@carolita This is where I admit that I usually deal with dead mice by finding someone who doesn't mind picking them up. On the other hand, when my college filled our dorm room with glue traps during a freshman-year-long mouse infestation, my roommate and I drowned a suffering mouse in a bucket. Not on my list of recommended mouse-disposal methods.

tea sonata

HELLO EMMER!
Byebye Edith, miss you.

flimflannery

Cool beans. Go Emma!

This is my new username

Okay Edith, real talk, reading the hairpin over the last few years (articles and the comments) has honestly made me a better person, a more compassionate person, and a more feminist person. I am truly grateful for that. It's also been hilarious and fun and interesting and I will miss you around here.

iceberg

@This is my new username all of this, perfectly said

katiemcgillicuddy

@This is my new username I wish I could like this a million times.

olivebee

@This is my new username Agree completely.

PatatasBravas

@This is my new username

Edith it is one of my dreams to one day run into you in NYC and just kind of make a weird face of shock and delight and then buy some celebratory hummus. Your writing is fabulous, I love the atmosphere you cultivated here in both posts and in comments, and the best of luck on your new ventures!

pointy

@This is my new username Yes. I've always been a feminist but this site has made me actively like women (and by extension myself) more - it has been chipping away at some internalized misogyny that I was not even aware of.

Also it is insane amounts of fun. Thanks for making this place, Edith. And good luck to Emma!

Jolly Farton

@This is my new username That is the thing that I would like to say if I could say things right now and say them well.

royaljunk

Hello Emma!!

I'm a sporadic commenter who mostly pops up to discuss: Game of Thrones, hunky dreamboats, and Victorian novels.

PatatasBravas

I read that as "hunky steamboats" and got confused.

Diana

@PatatasBravas

There's a tag I didn't realize the Hairpin was sorely missing. For your first order of business, Emma, please order up more Hunky Steamboats content.

PatatasBravas

If there's a market demand, I will create it.

redheaded&crazy

@Diana i also would like to know more about the hunky steamboats

PatatasBravas

...gonna email Emma, then.

royaljunk

@royaljunk I love this inadvertant steamboats thread, omg

fondue with cheddar

Welcome, Emma! I was sort of scared at first but Edith thinks you're great and a bunch of commenters think you're great, so that must mean you're great. I'm feeling better now!

chrysopoeia

While I'm excited for new content and YAY HI EMMA, Edith... a self demotion but your *not* leaving? So much Madeline Kahn side eye right now.

paper bag princess

If this means Edith is going to write more celebrity profiles a la Chris Evans, this is only the best news.

HeyThatsMyBike

@paper bag princess I know. I strongly support the idea of Edith Zimmerman: Professional Celebrity Profilist.

Daisy Razor

Welcome, Emma! I'm excited for you!

Edith, I'm excited for you too! Enjoy your semi-retirement.

Miss Maszkerádi

Oh and I also have a mouse, in NYC. He or she is tiny and fuzzy and harmless and clearly terrified of me, so I can't even bring myself to lay traps for the poor thing. If I start finding teeth marks on power cables, well, war shall be declared, but for now....nah. Coexist.

Miss Maszkerádi

@PatatasBravas .....ew. I should point out that I DID lay traps for this one's older brother who was running around frantically every night and started eating my books, but the little bastard was smart enough to completely avoid them. Then late one night I heard one, final, desperate *SQUEAK!* and the next morning found him mysteriously dead in the middle of the floor. (....ew, I know. I used Lysol.)

I swear that happened. Do mice get heart attacks?

Nicole Cliffe

Yay! Emma is going to do an amazing job. GOOD LUCK, EMMA! Email me to complain about these fucking Salon-esque troll-beast lady monster readers whenever. Xoxoxo.

HeyThatsMyBike

@Nicole Cliffe Excuse me, I prefer "troll-chupacabra," Missy.

chrysopoeia

@Nicole Cliffe Sick burn on Salon, Nicole.

leonstj

My great-grandma always used to say, "There is no goodbye, only 'See you next time'."

She also used to say "Dear, there is nowhere near enough vodka in this drink. You're going to need to learn a proper pour."

meetapossum

@leon s Now I'm crying because I'm thinking of "Goodbye May Seem Forever" from The Fox & the Hound. THANKS A LOT, LEON.

Lisa Frank

Is it a requirement that 'Pin editors have great hair?

Welcome, Emma! We won't make you hang out with Juggalos (unless you want to.)

Jinxie

@Lisa Frank Aw, shucks. {tucks away box of clown face paint}

femme cassidy

Oh my goodness. Edith you are amazing and you will be so, so missed. And, welcome Emma! Can I keep writing about hearts/vaginas sometimes? - A Queer Chick

redheaded&crazy

@femme cassidy YES CAN SHE PLEASE PLEASE SAY YES PLEEEEEASE

redheaded&crazy

@redheaded&crazy i assume the obvious answer is yes here though

iceberg

@femme cassidy EMMA PLEASE SAY YES.

Quinn A@twitter

@femme cassidy I certainly hope so! Your column is my favourite.

katiemcgillicuddy

@redheaded&crazy Right? That is obvious, right?

Oh, squiggles

@femme cassidy Pretty please with heart/vagina shaped sprinkles on top?

Jinxie

@Absurd Bird I was going to do a google to see if one could actually buy vagina shaped sprinkles, but then I remembered I'm at work and my search history is already verging on problematic.
Anyway! This is me adding another vote to keep AQC on, because she is The Best.

hallelujah

@femme cassidy YES YES YES. I reeeally hope the site maintains it's queer/trans-inclusive attitude in general - I love Nicole for many things, but that she made an effort to post LGBT-aimed stuff outside of AQC is number 1 for me.

Faintly Macabre

@Jinxie Is this a good place to mention that when looking for pasta to cook for the kids I babysit a few weeks ago, I found a package of penis-shaped pasta?

frigwiggin

Hi Emma! I'm frigwiggin and I don't matter!

iceberg

@frigwiggin you matter to ME! but I must admit now I'm feeling all cringe-y and embarrassed by introducing myself as though comenting all the fucking time means I'm more important than any of the other Pinners. I don't want this place to be a clubhouse, just a neverending sleepover.

Ophelia

@frigwiggin Noooo! You matter. Without you, there would have been no FBB Gary and Elaine!

HeyThatsMyBike

@frigwiggin Hi! I'm HeyThatsMyBike, and I also don't matter! But will occasionally engage in short-burst style commenting and comment 40 times on every post for several days, and then on none for 3 weeks.

Oh and this one time Sarah Marshall and I wrote about figure skaters. We might do that again, especially since you presumably like sports and sports-like things.

Frigwiggin, on the other hand, DOES matter and shares delightful fashion tips and bargains, amongst other useful things.

Oh, squiggles

@frigwiggin This is the only place on the internet that is safe to read the comments, so as a regular commenter, I think you matter plenty!

EpWs

@frigwiggin YOU HUSH YOUR MOUTH

frigwiggin

Shhhh, shhhhh, y'all are undermining my credibility!

Verity

@frigwiggin You matter! I like your comments.

(Argh, that sounds like my opinion is what makes things matter. Which it really isn't.)

Blue skies

@iceberg commenting a lot just makes you part of reading the pin? I guess? At least I enjoy reading the comments as much or more than the writing - you, leon s, Patatas Bravas and I'm sure MANY others come to mind.
I barely ever comment, it's 1) years of internet creeping habits and 2) i'm always reading this at night, because I can't go on here while at work :(
and a little bit of 3) I can never remember my password.

iceberg

@Blue skies thanks darl! I love the comments and a lot of the commenters, I just don't want anyone to feel excluded or less important because they're not one of the more prolific commenters... I don't want this place to get that exclusive club vibe where people don't feel welcome if they don't get the in-jokes, and I started to feel like introducing myself to Emma was a bit presumptuous I guess.

Blue skies

@iceberg i could see that. It just wasn't the vibe I got but then again I baaaarely ever comment - in fact I just figured out how to get email notifications! So that brightened my morning.

honey cowl

Hi Emma, I'm honey cowl I also don't matter. (thanks friggie)

PS. Edith why nooooooooo

iceberg

@honey cowl <3 u cowlie - you do matter! You DO!

Mae
Mae

@honey cowl I don't matter but I like you!

Oh, squiggles

I said it above, but I'll say it here too. As the only place on the internet where it is safe to read the comments, all the commenters matter! (except me XD)

ironhoneybee

Edith! I hope you know how much we all appreciate the tiny little utopian corner of the internet you've carved out for us. You're a terrific writer and a great editor and finder of talent. I hope wherever you end up, there is always a spider by your side.

Jinxie

HAHA SUCK IT GAWKER MEDIA! Finally we're stealing someone from YOU.

Jinxie

@Jinxie Seriously, though, Welcome to our new Overlord Emma and Ediiiiiiiiiiiiith we will miss you :(

lalaladododo

Wow this is probably embarrassing but I guess I think of Edith as a friend (or at least that really cool girl in class I DESPERATELY WANT TO BE FRIENDS WITH) and I am incredibly sad that I won't get to spend every day with her anymore.

Edith, just keep putting things you write where we can all read them, and I wish you all the very best!! You are the best writer/human ever, etc.

And WELCOME TO EMMA! I will probably grow inappropriately attached to you too! Yay?

PatatasBravas

Please, join me in sighing wistfully whenever a Zimmerman byline appears in the NYT mag.

Briony Fields

Edith. Thank you so much for all your crazy hard work. You have made the 'Pin the most amazing place on the internets! We will miss you. I am jealous of those towels in the attic, now getting all your attention.
I'm sure Emma will lessen our pain though, by keeping the Hairpin great as always.

Oh, squiggles

And thus, it twas on that day that the House of Edith did fall, and from the ashes rose the House of Emma, to rule the land evermore. And lo, the 'Pin Commentariat did gather, to both rejoice in their new leader, as well as to mourn the fall of the House of Edith.

Oh, squiggles

@Absurd Bird It's almost a relief, because I could tell something like this was coming for a while, and it's much better to know what is happening than to be left guessing at a bunch of cryptic comments.

Oh, squiggles

@Absurd Bird ALSO, re: Why is everyone leaving?!

Anyone else feel like the little kid who is wondering if their parents are divorcing because of them? I do, and yeah, I clearly am too emotionally attached to this site. I think a lot of having ALL OF THE FEELINGS, stems from the fact that when Jane left, it felt like she didn't say goodbye. So now when someone else leaves, it's great to get a goodbye, but it kind of dregs up that feeling of "why are you going, is it because of meeeee?!" Obviously, the people who work for the site/contribute for the site have no obligation to say goodbye or explain why they are leaving, but I think it just goes to show how good the site and the writing is, if we have all managed to become so attached.

meetapossum

@Absurd Bird Yeah, I sort of feel the same way about Jane leaving. My consolation about the other departures is that Nicole and Jolie still hang out in the comments.

Mae
Mae

@meetapossum Does anyone know where Jane went?

Choire Sicha@facebook

@Absurd Bird I know, it's hard, lots of people think 1. this is my fault and then 2. no no but this is someone's fault and 3. WHO DID THIS and then everything gets crazy. When it's... life.

That's why I killed my parents after their divorce.

(JK I DIDN'T, DON'T PUT ME IN JAIL.)

Mariajoseh

@Absurd Bird I felt that about Jane too and now I stalk her on Twitter, but it's just not the same.

harebell

@Mae
I just assumed it was that the impending baby meant only one job and not two jobs (i.e. after-hours job at the HP). No?

BoozinSusan

Thank goodness you linked to that Deadspin article about the Gathering of the Juggalos, because it showcases what a fantastic writer Emma is and helps tone down my Edith-separation-anxiety somewhat -- Emma, I look forward to reading more of you!

triplea

Welcome, Emma, and bye Edith :( Please let us know what you're doing next!

katiemcgillicuddy

THERE IS TOO MUCH HAPPENING ALL AT ONCE SOMEBODY HOLD ME.

iceberg

@katiemcgillicuddy ONLY IF YOU HOLD ME

katiemcgillicuddy

@iceberg i'm scared, bergie!

fondue with cheddar

@katiemcgillicuddy @iceberg CAN I JOIN YOU GUYS? Honestly, The Hairpin is the best thing about most days. I want need it to stay that way!

katiemcgillicuddy

@fondue with cheddar Yes, come over here and we can all hide in the corner. (I can promise you Emma is awesome.)

fondue with cheddar

@katiemcgillicuddy I TRUST YOU WINNIE COOPER DON'T LET ME DOWN

Jinxie

@katiemcgillicuddy HUG PILE!
KITTEHS

Valley Girl

I have no idea how to respond except with petulance and despair. Wait, yes I do.

"Congratulations, how wonderful."

EpWs

@Valley Girl Who is going to give Emma the rundown on all our inside jokes?

melmuu

@Valley Girl Qongratulations, how wonderful.

katiemcgillicuddy

@The Everpresent Wordsnatcher Probably someone who has lived internationally.

Hot Doom

@katiemcgillicuddy I'm sure Bob or Eli could answer a few questions.

breccia

@The Everpresent Wordsnatcher hairpin.wikia.com
Featured Article of the Week: Negroni Season

These articles need to be expanded:
- Qream
- Attic Wives
- Ghost
- Spiders
- Puns
- Stock photos
- Bob and Eli
- sigtempoigtcyft

katiemcgillicuddy

@Hot Doom Oh, Eli. Poor Eli.

stonefruit

@breccia see also Fire, Burning Things With

happy go lucky scamp

@breccia also - juicebox

Hot Doom

@breccia Never forget the pocket witches either.

Clarence Rosario

The tears of joy and sadness are what's causing the flooding in NYC today.

Hiroine Protagonist

Oh god, is the the part where in three months gawker announces a new site? *shudder*

HeyThatsMyBike

@Hiroine Protagonist "Our new site, focusing on coverage of Doll News..."

catwithglasses

I guess this is where we introduce ourselves? Hi Emma. I'm Cat, from the webcomic Cat and Girl. I'm primarily a mostly-lurker who comments every month or so but usually reads the comments and replies silently in her head and loves all the commenters here and the writers and ohgodhairpinpleasedon'teverchange.

HMSBeagle

@kmc I love Cat and Girl comics and I love that you read the Hairpin!

279th District Court

@kmc Hi! I'm the new commenter who hasn't yet found the balance between overly confessional diary story about my life and a pertinent detail to the discussion we're having. Or quoting Shakespeare or making elaborate sci fi references. Man, I haven't been doing enough of that.

Or whining about my students - except for the nerdy summer camp ones I LOVE YOU SO MUCH YOU PRECIOUS, PRECIOUS NERDS WHO CAN WRITE COHERENT SENTENCES ALREADY!

See what I mean?

catwithglasses

@HMSBeagle (I should be clear that I am not actually that amazing author. I was doing the thing that people did upthread where they identified as their picture...sorry for the confusion!)

HMSBeagle

@kmc As sloop-of-war, I'm not the most adept at reading. Respect!

C_Webb

I am happy for everyone, but also starting to wonder if Edith and Nicole and Carrie know about some new Ladyweb internet that is even awesomer than this one. I will patiently await my invitation.

Choire Sicha@facebook

@C_Webb Haha! They're just sitting around some cauldron together, laughing at us. :(

melis

we have so many locks of choire's hair you guys

Jinxie

@melis How many more do you need before you can make your own Choire for the new site?

evil melis

we can already make him dance

Jolie Kerr

@evil melis NO NO NICOLE GET IN HERE SHE'S WISE WOMAN-ING YOUR NEW SITE [cowers in the face of the dollies]

The Lady of Shalott

@Jolie Kerr Not going to lie, reading The Wise Woman at age 15 or whatever SCARED THE CRAP OUT OF ME, worse than many Stephen King novels that I have written. THE DOLLIES, THE NEEDLES, I'm having flashbacks even worse than the ones about Wideacre (MAN-TRAP).

ThisIsJustice ToSay @twitter

At first I was like, "Oh, ok. Probably an okay thing to have happen to Hairpin, even if I'll miss Edith. But where have I heard 'Emma Carmichael' before? 'Emma Carmichael', 'Emma Carmichael'...."

http://gawker.com/5891587/grand-forks-olive-garden-receives-positive-review

I feel so lost and alone now. :_(

TheBourneApproximation

@ThisIsJustice ToSay @twitter
Oh dear. I am no longer quite as cautiously optimistic as I was before.
*Quietly slips out the back door...*

iceberg

@ThisIsJustice ToSay @twitter really? it's like, mildly snarky I guess? I just don't think it's that bad, am I missing something?

The Lady of Shalott

@iceberg I find that article emblematic of everything antithetical to what the Hairpin used to be. I really do. If the Hairpin starts going the way of Gawker, I'm abandoning it, and I'm sure a lot of others will at well.

ThatWench

@iceberg I think it's exactly the sort of snarky that the Hairpin has long stayed away from? So, it's far from the most snarky thing on the internet, but I also think it's the thing many folks might fear when hearing "your favorite site has been handed over to someone from Gawker Media."

It's not the sort of snark that has existed at this particular slumber party, I guess.

Jolly Farton

@ThisIsJustice ToSay @twitter ...Maybe she meant well? Maybe???? Like more "aw sweet, sweet old lady, this is the kind of sweetness that could only be produced by a well-meaning grandma" and less "HA-ha look at this stupid grandma who thinks Olive Garden is worth reviewing"?

?????????????????????????????????
??????????????Maybe??????????????
?????????????????????????????????

missupright

@ThatWench I didn't mind that Olive Garden thing, but in an oh-small-towns-I-love-you way, and also in an America-you-are-*baffling* wayy. But it is not a thing that would belong at all on the Hairpin I have loved.

However! Most people, and especially most smart funny people who can write, are capable of modifying their tone depending on their audience, and the tone of the website. Emma says she wants to keep the feeling on the Hairpin the same- maybe she will? Or maybe, she'll take it in a new direction that is dreadful. Or maybe one that is amazing. We just don't know yet.

ThisIsJustice ToSay @twitter

@lilly pilgrim Hahaha I wish :( But once you put it in context (the context being that it was published on Gawker), you can't help but feel a little dead inside.

Rubyinthedust

@ThisIsJustice ToSay @twitter I am not a fan of that post either and it makes me feel icky but there is such a thing as knowing how to write for your audience.

I also think that most writers, myself included, have something lurking on the internet that they wrote when younger that they aren't particularly proud of.

Nutellaface

@The Lady of Shalott I got cyber-bullied off of Jezebel the VERY FIRST COMMENT I wrote, so the very words "Gawker Media" make me nervous...

nicolarz

@Nutellaface I have a couple of people who I consider friends who work at Gawker Media, and I still think it's awful! Not so much the writing, but the way the sites have become so tabloidesque in a bid for pageviews and the commenters are THE WORST.

km1312

@nicolarz Yeah, I've gotta say: Emma, if you have fans at Deadspin/Gawker who plan to follow you over here (which you probably do!), maybe you could write a nice little post reminding them to play nice here? I think this community can totally survive and grow from new leadership, but if this comments section turns into Gawker/Jezebel's, we're sunk.

HMSBeagle

Welcome, Emma! Where's a Bowie gif when you need one...

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@fondue with cheddar I was thinking ch-ch-ch-ch-Changes. But Labyrinth Bowie fills me with glee!

HMSBeagle

@PatatasBravas Be still, my heart!

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@HMSBeagle It was the first one I found, and although there's no dancing and no bulge it seemed appropriate for those who don't know how to feel.

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@HMSBeagle Labyrinth Bowie = the best Bowie.

Dirty Hands

@PatatasBravas Oh. Oh my.

iceberg

@PatatasBravas OH MY GOD DAVID BOWIE IS A PINNER but which one?

Setec Astrology

@iceberg Being Bowie, the appropriate answer is, "all of them, depending on when you ask."

Zwetschke

Oh, oh oh oh oh. Well, hello Emma! But Edith! Oh Edith. Sigh. We will miss you so.

VolcanoMouse

Edith! You built a place on the internet that is persistently delightful and you did it without relying on nastiness and snark! I'm taking a moment to marvel over how genuinely nice, and how utterly improbable, the Hairpin is. It seems sort of miraculous, and I thank you!

I am less sad when I think about Edith and Melis and Nicole and Jane going away to spread this sort of awesome in foreign parts.

Katie Walsh

I really enjoyed this chat. What a lovely way to introduce Emma. Welcome Emma! Do you.... wanna talk about RuPaul's Drag Race?............ (#TEAMJINKX)

EDITH I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE WHAT YOU DO NEXT!!!!!!!!

TheLetterL

Where do you stand on tiny houses, Emma?

stuffisthings

@TheLetterL I'd stick to the load-bearing supports, personally. Those things don't always look so solidly built.

wee_ramekin

Edith, thank you so much for creating the Hairpin. Much like other commenters, this has been one of my favorite hang-outs over the last two years.

Interacting with the content and other commenters has made me a more thoughtful, tolerant, intellectually critical, and happier person. Two good "meat-space" friends came into my life because of this site, as well as countless amazing internet pals. The support, camaraderie, banter, and genuine love that I encounter in this community is so unique and so fortifying. Y'all encourage me to refine my viewpoints, expand my consciousness, and post zillions of Sherlock GIFS, all in the same place. Edith, that kind of community would not have been possible without you, and for this I send you genuine thanks.

I'm so sad to see you go. I hope that whatever you pursue after the Hairpin brings you happiness, contentment, and joy. Please know that your "low-key cocktail party among select female friends" has been a source of humor, strength, and solidarity for so many of us.

Emma, welcome to the 'Pin. We're a pretty solid lot, and we're looking forward to see what you'll do. :)

Cawendaw

I guess this wasn't totally unexpected. I will accept this change with quiet dignity and gracPANIC! PINNERDAMMERUNG COMETH! WAIL AND WAIL AND STACK TINDER AGAINST THE WALLS! ALL IS IN VAIN AND LOST!e and look forward to a site that keeps what made it great while moving (*sob*) into the future. I'm glad, though, that Edith will still hang around sometimes to ease us into the transition.

breccia

Guys, help. In thinking of hairpin in-jokes I fell down a rabbit hole. I just.

sighs

RK Fire

@breccia Oh, Rich..

lalaladododo

@breccia Memorieesss~

km1312

@breccia Look, Emma, you want to get in good with this crowd? Bring back Rich Santos. That is literally all it will take.

KatyDidWhat

Longtime lurker. Sad to see Edith go and Emma, excited to see you here. I hope you guys are able to keep some familiar faces around because this is a lot of change for the commentariat. Wasn't there a big outcry for the Pin to hire Jia in Nicole's place?

I'm Right on Top of that, Rose

Well, this should be interesting. Welcome, Emma - I've read your stuff at Deadspin for a while now and I like it. It'll be an interesting transition to this format, I think.

I second the emotions floating around about feeling unmoored and that we're not getting the whole picture about Edith, Jane, Nicole, etc.., but really, it's not our business about why people leave certain jobs. Our job, as commenters, is to be awesome, and we're pretty good at that.

Let's give it the old college try here, eh, 'Pinners?

wee_ramekin

@I'm Right on Top of that, Rose

Hmmmm. I disagree with part of your statement. I don't think there's anything wrong with wondering why people are leaving the site in droves.

I agree with feeling unmoored. Additionally, to speak personally, over the past few weeks and months, I have felt everything from anger to sadness to excitement to abandonment w/r/t this site and the changes that have been happening.

Part of the anger comes from feeling like I'm being gas-lit by the editors/Powers That Be. I'm not stupid: when Jane - one of the most beloved people on this site - left without so much as a goodbye, I sensed that not all was right in the 'Pinverse. Jane posted pictures of her wedding on the site because we all loved her so much that we wanted to share in her special day, however vicariously. That's not the kind of person who leaves without saying goodbye.

Then Jolie left, and concurrently, the advice columns started being phased out/got really weird. Then Nicole left - NICOLE, who for me was as vital to this site as an immune system, or muscle, or bone would be to a healthy body. And now Edith's gone. Edith, who created this nearly utopian internet community.

You're right: technically, no one "owes" us any kind of explanation. But we're not stupid. It's not weird to feel like we're not being told everything. Maybe everyone is just leaving because of Opportunities. But man, I don't think we need a scolding for feeling restless and jittery about all this change. Look at the comments on this page: this site and its ensuing community mean a LOT to most of us, and the disturbance in the force has definitely been felt. Quite frankly, I think we're all being pretty mature and emotionally circumspect about everything that's happening, all things considered.

thebestjasmine

@wee_ramekin What you said. It absolutely is our business. We're the people who come back every day and make the site money. If the site is going in a different direction, it makes a lot of sense that we would want to know about it.

katiemcgillicuddy

@wee_ramekin That is an excellent point about Jane's wedding pictures and then the strange lack of a real goodbye from her. I mean, hell, I think it was Nicole who told us that Jane was pregnant in the comments...that shit just doesn't happen other places, and it's part of what makes this place so awesome, the intimacy of it. I never once would have put "intimacy" and "the internet" together before I found this site, and I feel like recently we've really lost some of that.

Oh, squiggles

@wee_ramekin You did a much better job articulating this than I did, thank you!

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@wee_ramekin Yes, well said. Maybe more information will come to light once everyone's settled? But maybe not. Either way, I will try to love the new Hairpin, but I really hope I won't have to try.

@wee_ramekin YES, EVERYTHING THAT YOU SAID.

I love this site. I've been watching it go downhill. And yes, the part about being gas-lit -- when the people who are paying your salary via pageviews are telling you things like "bring back normal advice columns," or "we want more ghosts, dioramas, clean people, and handy femmes," or "it's shitty that you don't pay your contributors, especially since y'all claim to support young female writers in all of their endeavors," people are going to be pissed off when you act like those things are crazy suggestions.

Choire

Emma's email is emma@thehairpin.com! :)

thebestjasmine

@S. Elizabeth What she said. All of that.

wallsdonotfall

@S. Elizabeth Those are all good points, and yet--this site isn't and shouldn't be written to spec according to what the loudest voices ask for. Commenters who provide pageviews are one group who have influence, yes, but so are visitors who don't comment and might prefer a different type of post. And the writers themselves have a very literal say. If X Column Writer doesn't want to do it anymore, should Edith have gone out and brought in a replacement to fill the same niche? How much does an editor's creative vision matter vs. just giving the people what they ask for? It has to be incredibly difficult to balance those competing interests, and Edith has done an amazing job.

I agree with wee rams that having feelings of loss & frustration is justified. These editors and contributors have been important to us! We'll miss them! And it is hard to be kept in the dark when this space has felt so much like a community of equals otherwise. But I do think that it's easy to edge over into a bit of entitlement.

@wallsdonotfall Let's be clear: when you run a website, there is an element of artistic vision. It is also a business, and if the people providing you with the funds to keep running your business are not pleased, it will be hard to keep things afloat. Page views are page views regardless of comments, but I do think that if one is vocal and engaged in the community on a website, their voices of criticism should be considered.

This is a good community. There are a lot of great people and great things happening. This is also, however, someone's business and the way they make money, and in that way it is a consumer product. It's media/entertainment, and people will go elsewhere if that entertainment, media, and content doesn't fit their needs by either reading elsewhere or creating another content source. What I saw happening with the Hairpin was a decline in the quality of content in addition to a decline in the frequency of quality long-form pieces.

Yes, I think there is a delicate intersection between "artistic control, can do what one pleases" and "we are trying to create a community, and the community should get a say in what's up." It is a delicate line to tread. I think that my issue is that I perceive an imbalance, where the community that allowed the site to be successful and take off as an entity that could make money but stopped being listened to. Is the community entitled to dictate content? No. Will there be some issues if you don't at least consider some of the issues they present as reasons why they're not pleased? Yes.

I'm not saying that the loudest voices should be catered to. I'm saying that voices saying very similar things (such as the responses to the January 2012 open thread about "what would you like to see?") should be factored in, at least a little, in order to not alienate your readership.

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@I'm Right on Top of that, Rose I guess this is a scolding, but: the editors of this site don't owe us anything, and it's weird to talk about being "gaslit" like this is a two-way relationship. Frankly, it's not.

Hard truth (this is coming from the online journalism world, not the blogging world, so it's a little different, but still): the 'Pin community is probably more important to those who are interacting down here every day than it is to the editors and contributors who do an enormous amount of work on the site.

Many writers don't even *read* the comments on their stories. I'm certain Edith & co. do (Edith liked one of my comments once!), and I love that Jolie is hanging out in the comments even though she's contributing elsewhere, and I think both of those things speak to the fact that the Hairpin commentariat is not your normal Internet commentariat. But even, say, Ta-Nehisi Coates at the Atlantic, who uses his blog as a space to interact with and learn from comments more than almost anyone else on the Internet, has moderators now -- and he posts way less frequently than the 'Pin does.

So while I'm sure they're proud of the community that they've built here, I don't think they should feel any responsibility to let the commenters dictate what they do. Keep in mind, also, that there are what -- 150 vocal regular commenters? Maybe? That's... maybe one tenth of one percent of the daily visitors.

Ugh I don't even know what I'm really saying here. I don't want to dismiss people's concerns (the Hairpin ebbs and flows with me as to how much I'm interested in) but I also remember when people were complaining about How to Be a Girl and about how many advice columns there were, so I guess I'm really skeptical of the content hive-mind, and as a writer I sort of sympathize with everyone who's left because changing jobs is just what happens all the time when you're a 20something or 30something Internet Person and it must be weird to feel like you're accountable to hundreds of people who are, for you, total strangers, you know? Sorry. I'm not trying to be a jerk.

Edith, huge congratulations on what you've built here. What you've done is really incredible and you're honestly a professional hero of mine. I'm really interested in what Jane is going to do next, and I'm so happy that Jolie, Nicole, etc, are doing big things out their on their own!

And welcome, Emma, you're younger than me and super successful and that's scary! Congratulations.

@Emma Peel @Emma Peel No, they do not owe us anything. But we also do not owe them anything. If "gas lit" is the wrong terms and too touchy-feely, perhaps I would describe it as "unwilling to address criticism and concerns, sparking many to take their clicking elsewhere." Whether or not the Awl/Edith set out to create community isn't quite the point; the point is that by creating community, they created a significant amount of business for themselves in addition to creating a valuable product.

I also assume much of the pageviews include multiple views per day by many people.

Mae
Mae

@S. Elizabeth The decline in quality long form pieces has been apparent to me lately, too.

@Mae <3 u bleachie. miss u lots.

km1312

@wee_ramekin oh man, THIS.

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@S. Elizabeth Was she trying to create a community, though? Or perhaps the question is, "Did she create a community?" I think the community created itself.

That said, if a community is born under Nicole's and Mallory's new project, they will have created it because they already know that there are a lot of us who will follow them anywhere.

@fondue with cheddar I think the community created itself, but I also think that when that happens and it results in your website having consistent pageviews and subscriptions, maybe one should work with that when they make business/content decisions. I don't think intent really matters.

@fondue with cheddar I actually know of multiple people who submitted pieces and had them rejected within an hour with no explanation, suggestions for edits/tweaks/changes, or reasons why. And when that happens, but crap like Bobby Finger stuff is published.... I am going to give a side-eye.

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@S. Elizabeth Well, there's a new sheriff in town. Let's see what happens.

hoo:ha

@wee_ramekin Hear hear! (There is very little point in my posting this other than the fact that simply giving it a thumbs up does not convey the emphatic agreement I feel.)

thebestjasmine

Emma, welcome! I've always loved your Deadspin stuff especially, so I'm excited for you to be here (and I would be super excited if we got more sports stuff around here). Glad to see you move here!

Bye Edith! :(

Fernie

KNOCK KNOCK! Can I come in? I am nice, but shy. I love everyone so much and you have helped make a Better Person. But NO, everyone just CAN NOT leave me (hello Emma!). I need you! Can I have a hug too and borrow a kitten/Corgi? Preferably all three..

Fernie

WAIT! Make "ME" a better person...I am sorry. Upset and all.

truelove

@Fernie HUGS HUGS HUGS for you. & kittens unto infinity!

Paulina

Long time lurker (I think I've been reading for two of those 2.6 years), and registered just to say: thanks so much, Edith. I love this website. I have recommended it vigorously to people I know as the funniest and pleasantest place on the internet, and they have all agreed with me.

It's also the only place where I read the comments because I like to read them, not out of weird self-hatred.

Also, I've had a year where I've basically been the saddest sack on earth (NO SACK IS SADDER THAN I), and having this amazing place I can go to and consistently find content that is funny and thoughtful has been so great and so good for me. Soooo, you know, thanks for that too.

(And welcome, Emma! I do not know your work at all but judging from this interview you seem pretty great.)

janejanejane

I have been so grateful for a unique and safe place to talk about stuff with an intimacy I have found nowhere else. It has been quirky, charming, funny and informative. To create such a site in the first place would have been a tremendously all -consuming labour of love. Thank you Edith, for creating a great pajama party. I must not begrudge you the right to move and create other wonderful things.

camanda

A coworker of mine, one of my work moms and the sweetest and most delightfully sunny person I know, who's been out with an injury since mid-October, came to visit us today and told us she won't be coming back. And now I come home and there's this. So basically I got two-thirds of the way through the comments and then my eyes got all moist. I'm having a hard day, okay.

Thank you, Edith, and best of luck! The Hairpin has been my happy space on the Internet lo the past year-plus, thanks to you and Nicole and Jane and Jolie and all the other wonderful contributors and the awesome, warm, funny, slightly crazy commenters. May they stay that way.

Welcome, Emma! I'm glad you landed here from Deadpsin -- I was concerned because I liked you there. This works, too!

wee_ramekin

@camanda Oh man, I hope your week gets better! That sucks when a colleague you really like and respect leaves.

camanda

@wee_ramekin Thanks, it really does suck. She's just wonderful and I've been missing her since she left. Now it really hurts. It's absolutely the best thing for her and that's what's important, of course, but it just won't be the same without her.

Diana

Ugh, through the Hairpin I got to become IRL friends with melis, and through the Atlantic I get to go to her moving away party this week. THE INTERNET GIVETH, THE INTERNET TAKETH AWAY.

bangbangshootshoot

hi...i'm also a longtime reader/lurker, and now also a sad panda.

i keep typing stuff and backspacing. there are so many things i'd like to say, but words continually thwart me by eluding me. i reckon this is why i mostly lurk.

Verity

Welcome to the site, Emma! Edith, we will miss you - good luck with whatever comes next.

Jolly Farton

Oh, okay, that's nice.

[stares blankly at wall]

TheDragon

I must admit, I am one of the ones who has felt that this site has been "slipping" for awhile now. I used to read it religiously, every article, every comment. Some of you may remember me.
Now, I feel like I miss very few truly excellent posts if I check once a week and skim it.
I'm interested to see where this all goes.

mariko

@TheDragon Sadly agreed.

rimy

I wish luck to Edith and all the recently departed. I am quietly happily anticipating what's coming up next! It's all good! (I guess I'm an optimist..?)

The Hairpin (and The Billfold, too) has changed my life HONESTLY. I feel like I have a much better understanding of feminism (and budgeting/finance) and I basically want to be friends with everybody. Like literally 99% of the contributors who've written for the HP/the BF and probably 75% of the commenters-- let's be friends you guys. FOR REAL.

truelove

@rimy yes to this, yes yes. i still need to figure out my loan situation though. the billfold is my main source for half-assedly picking at that terrifying department of my life...(guidance appreciated, ps)

Rookie (not the magazine) (not that there's anything wrong with that)

@rimy Yes, this, all of this plus a "omg Emma is so cool is she our friend now?"

Little_Lakes

Bon voyage, Edith! You've created the best site on the internet and I can't wait to see what you do next!

sophia_h

Grrr, I've been back at work lately and thus not really able to be around (commuting + pregnancy insomnia = no spare time that isn't about eating or trying to get some sleep) and it seems like the Hairpin is falling apart or at least radically changing while I can't be around to hang out in the comments! Given that I have left almost all my other online communities recently and the HP has been the only place I've still felt comfortable, this makes me sad. I keep worrying I'll check one day and the place will be gone and I won't have people to talk to anymore. *sob-hugs the pinatariat*

straw hat

Welcome Emma!

Thank you, Edith. I LOVE your writing and can't wait to see what you create next and I wish you the best of luck!

teaandcakeordeath

I missed reading The Hairpin for one day, ONE DAY, and look what happened!

Without wanting to sound too downbeat, I started reading the pin when I took on a pretty crappy job and it was so witty and smart and enjoyable to read, it was often the highlight of my working day. So thank you so much for the jizzcliners, the leggy blondes, bob & eli, the literary penis jokes, the spiders, the hummus and basically the last 2.6 years. Congratulations, it was wonderful.
(wow this comment is so cheesy, but you know 'feeeeelings'!)

Danzig!

My comment got eaten, but I'll miss Edith and everyone at the old Hairpin, and will be excited to see what Emma's vision holds for the site. It feels like the end of something, doesn't it? It's like a graduation - no matter where you are in relation to one another, things can't be the same again. It's a melancholic feeling.

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Time to write that BOOK, Edith Zimmerman!

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There was an entire conversation about turning the place into a NASCAR fan site, and NOT ONE PERSON in the comments has made a "Hairpin Turn" joke? I am so disappointed.

yesplease

I've been reading The Hairpin for two years and I've only just created an account...just to comment!

Edith - thanks so much for everything you put into the site. I honestly can't think of anywhere I'd rather be on the internet (except praps The Awl!). Best of luck with whatever's next - I'm sure it'll be equally spectacular.

Promise this isn't Edith's mom, guys.

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