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Friday, February 8, 2013

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Name That Book!

It's your turn to be service-y. I have three books I'm trying to track down based on hazy childhood memories, so I thought I'd open it up to your collective wisdom, and then you can tell me/us yours.

1. Okay. There are these two girls, they are friends, one is short and the other one is really tall, they decide to live with each other's families for a summer, obvi they figure out they like their own parents best, the short one is writing a terrible romance novel and the tall one tries to stunt her growth with coffee and chocolate and other things that don't work. OH, and the one writing the novel gets almost sucked in by one of those pay-to-publish scams and they want her to use a sexier pen name.

UPDATE: The Great Mom Swap, Betsy Hynes. Thanks, @Meritaten!

2. My notes for this part of the post say: "circle pin razor banana cream pie the Byrds" which is mostly it. There's a girl, she's in high school (maybe middle school?) and all the other girls have circle pins, and she's shaving with her dad's razor, and gets paired up with someone useless during home ec, and they make a disgusting banana cream pie, but then I think they eventually became friends? Oh, and she's really into the Byrds, as was I at the time, but I think she was into them like "here is this hip and current band I like," and I was "I don't go anywhere or do anything and just listen to my dad's LPs."

UPDATE: Fourteen and Holding, Candice Ransom. Thanks, @Miss Sparrow!

3. This one is NOT the one you are thinking of. It's a kid who gets sent back to Arthurian times during a field trip, or some such thing, and his mom is too, and she keeps waiting for the cream tea she was promised in the brochure. But there's a book people always say I must be thinking of, and it is NOT that book, which is not super helpful for you, but I really must know what it is.

Anything ringing bells here? Anything at all? And what are the lost books haunting the transom of YOUR mind?



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Anchovy Cake

There's a kid who is really good at building things, so he runs away and builds a treehouse. And then a bunch of other kids follow him to his field and he builds like a bird watching house for this girl who loves to bird watch and so on. Then the parents find them and they all go home.

Aeroplane

@Anchovy Cake I know this! It's Andrew Henry's Meadow. That book rules so hard! I need to get a copy for my son.

allendaniel

Just awesome@a

lovelettersinhell

Well, i've read the first one. And that's all I've got :-/

smidge

There's a small cat, who gets caught up in a quest for a silver scroll, I think, and wolves attack them at some point and I think there are some good eagles in it?

smidge

@smidge I'm so glad you're doing this Nicole that book has been haunting me for years

janesnextdoor

@smidge I have no idea what that book is but your description of the story made me laugh out loud. And want to read it to see what happens.

smidge

@janesnextdoor I think it had a brownish cover? HELP ME

yeah-elle

@smidge Is it Catwings by Ursula K LeGuin? I don't remember a scroll but the cats can fly, haha.

smidge

@yeah-elle No, it wasn't Catwings, although I do love that book. I got if from a church library so I think there were even some psalms in it or something?

ironhoneybee

@smidge Is it The Treasure of the Scroll by Valerie Reddix?

smidge

@ironhoneybee oh my god. YES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU THANK YOU

smidge

@ironhoneybee Sorry for the caps lock but I think you might have solved the biggest mystery of the last ten years for me.

theharpoon

@smidge she's a brownish area with points

Meritaten

1. The Great Mom Swap - Betsy Haynes

3. Sound familiar but I don't want to guess and have it be THAT book

Nicole Cliffe

GUESS AWAY. I'll just yell at the first person who says it, and then we can all relax? Think how cathartic this thread is going to be for everyone!

The Hons

@Meritaten Was the novel-writing one the one who was also being blackmailed by her friend's little sister because she had a crush on her friend's older brother and accidentally watched him sleeping? ALSO: both characters use "blusher." And at some point there is Brisket.
All of this information is in my head instead of useful things like bank account numbers. I would make a terrible hostage.

Nicole Cliffe

YES I THINK SO? I remember brisket.

janesnextdoor

@The Hons freaking hilarious.

Meritaten

@The Hons YES! Although "accidentally" is a bit generous.

The best part is when the Tall Girl goes to Hawaii with her new trial-run family and gets a sunburn and then meets a hot Hawaiian (surfer?) guy who is EVEN TALLER and makes her feel pretty and they bond over a shared love of Duran Duran (I think?)

And brisket! I don't even know what that is and kept reading it as "briquette" (the firestarter kind).

Nicole Cliffe

@Meritaten GREAT MOM SWAP FTW

Scandyhoovian

It starts with children working in a factory getting the lint off carpet rolls before they get pressed and the lint ruins the carpeting or something like that, and the kids are all terrified of being crushed as they get the lint off the rolls.

I literally cannot remember anything else about this book, so it's a stretch, but I thought I'd toss it out there just in case someone knows what the heck book it was. It's been nagging my mind for YEARS.

Nicole Cliffe

OH I LOVE THAT ONE!!! It's like the Lowell mills, or something, and the title is her name?

yunkstahn

@Scandyhoovian

That sounds like "Lyddie." I loved that one as a kid, and thought it was soooo romantic at the end when she hooked up with the Quaker guy. http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/258905.Lyddie

Nicole Cliffe

@yunkstahn Yes! Solid confirm for "Lyddie."

backatthelab

@Scandyhoovian Definitely "Lyddie." Being from the great state of Massachusetts, I can verify this truth.

queenofbithynia

@Scandyhoovian Midnight is a Place, JOan Aiken.

(ETA: I say with total conviction, but if that isn't it, I want to know what is.)

Scandyhoovian

@queenofbithynia You know what, I feel like Midnight is a Place rings more bells than Lyddie.

I suppose I'll have to read both just to be sure. :D

Nicole Cliffe

@Scandyhoovian If she dashes out onto the floor to remove flaws before they are stamped into the rug, and sometimes people get squished, it is Lyddie.

queenofbithynia

@Nicole Cliffe That's in Midnight is a Place, too! They deliver the dead child to old Mrs. Braithwaite, who is unmoved because her first two children were already crushed by THE PRESS & she said her last goodbye to her third on the day she entered the factory.

best book!

cherrispryte

@Nicole Cliffe That happens in Midnight is a Place, too. But in Midnight is a Place, there's also a boy who goes traipsing through the sewers collecting things that can be useful. The girl who works at the mill is younger than the boy, and possibly also French?

Nicole Cliffe

@queenofbithynia @cherrisprye Oh, this is amazing. Apparently, young people desperately want to read about other young people getting squished to death while trying to remove flaws from rugs.

scarlettisinlondon

@Scandyhoovian I loved this book so much! And they make porridge by burying it in the ground! And the old man plays violin! And the girl makes a joke about the "untidy" river. Oh I want to read it now.

Ellie

It's definitely not Lyddie. Lyddie is about the mills, but not those thinks.

I love Joan Aiken, she basically invented steampunk, yes/no?

D.@twitter

@Ellie Right, Lyddie worked in a thread factory. That made spools, so people were always afraid of losing a finger? And she took in that little girl (Rachel?) and used her precious savings to buy her ribbons.
That reminds me--did anyone read the "Orphan Train" books??

Ellie

@Ellie *things, obv

Ellie

Also, speaking of Joan Aiken, Is Underground - how awesome and weird was that?

queenofbithynia

@Ellie SO good.

also I love the surprise myth she just stuck into The Stolen Lake in the way that she did because WHY NOT. that is the most amazing revisionist retelling of that story there is.

missupright

@Nicole Cliffe I have only just remembered that I used to play Midnight Is A Place with my sister, and we would take it in turns to have to get the wool off the carpet before the other one..dropped a heavy book on us. This game does not sound like much fun or very safe, in retrospect, but I think we enjoyed it at the time?

squishycat

@cherrispryte Yes, the little girl is French. The boy is the ward of the man who owns the mills, the girl is also his ward but only after being orphaned, there is all sorts of bizarre inheritance intrigue and the children have to run away early in the book, which is how they end up working in the sewers/factory (initially the little girl tried picking cigar butts out of the streets and making them into whole cigars to sell, but it doesn't work out). IT IS AWESOME.

oprahlb

@yunkstahn Remember when the boss man accuses Lyddie of "moral turpitude" for organizing workers to ask for shorter work days? I had to look it up because I totally thought they meant "turpentine." Lyddie had to go home and look it up in the dictionary, too, so I didn't feel bad.

Uncommon Hussy

@Scandyhoovian Did one of these books involve a girl getting her hair caught in a machine and having her scalp ripped off, or is there yet another traumatic childhood book about textile mills that I read as a kid?

squishycat

@Uncommon Hussy That happened in one of the Samantha American Girl books - it's not something that happens in the story, per se, but something related to Sam by Nellie as an explanation for why her hair is so short.

olivebee

Oh man, this happens to me with movies all the time. It is so massively frustrating to try and explain it to someone who is looking at you blankly and you are like "come ooonnn, I know you know this!"

megancress

@olivebee I ha that recently with a movie that was about people trapped in a cube made of cubes that were all boobie trapped, I explained the whole plot to a friend who is really into movies and he was like 'you've made that up there is no such movie!'. he found it for me later though so I felt vindicated. It is unsurprisingly called The Cube.

funfetti

@megancress My parents rented that when I was 10 and I hid behind the couch to watch it. I didn't sleep for weeks.

Judith Slutler

@megancress Maybe I'm just brain damaged from doing too much studying all day, but you just made me laugh so hard I have tears in my eyes. "people trapped in a cube made of cubes [...] it is unsuprisingly called The Cube" <- ahahahahahahahahaha

ms. alex

@olivebee @megancress When I was a teenager, my mom and I watched this movie that was about reality TV but in the 70s and the cameramen had the video cameras on their heads, and my own mother told me that movie didn't exist when I tried to find it a few years later. Turns out it DOES exist, and it's called Real Life.

thatgirl

@megancress The sequel is called HYPERCUBE.

itiresias

@megancress I had a Cube dream once.

Minx

@olivebee I've seen Cube! And Cube Zero, but not Hypercube. An ex-boyfriend loved Cube for reasons unknown and had a bunch of friends watch it one day. We were less impressed than he. Seriously weird movies.

disorganization

could the second one be Thirteen by Candice F. Ransom?

http://books.google.com/books/about/Thirteen.html?id=NJibBFpBUUEC

Nicole Cliffe

@disorganization Nope :(

RachelMonroe

@disorganization No but I think it definitely must be! Or maybe Fourteen and Holding from the same series? Or maybe both? Per my hasty google books search, 14&H mentions "circle pin" and 13 has the breathless passages about "Mr. Tambourine Man," which are seared into my brain for some reason....

Nicole Cliffe

@RachelMonroe It's Fourteen and Holding! Soothing waves of relief melt over me.

Cowgirl Rose

@disorganization I just created an account to suggest this! The only thing that rang a bell was The Byrds, and I remembered a character named Kobie who was obsessed with "Mr. Tambourine Man" and wanted to work for Disney. I never knew it was part of a series.

christonacracker

@Nicole Cliffe Thirteen is the first one, then 14 and Holding, then 15 at Last. Oh yeah, I knew #2 the second I saw "circle pin." Let me describe Gretchen for you. She was very beautiful.

disorganization

@RachelMonroe YES! I read all of those books and I wasn't sure if Thirteen was the right one. Didn't Gretchen get in a traumatic car accident in one of them? I seem to remember a sad ending to the series.

JanieS

@Cowgirl Rose She wanted these fancy pens to practice her drawing, yes? And she lived in Fairfax, Virginia, and it took me the longest time to realize that the books were, in fact, set in the 1960s.

Cowgirl Rose

@JanieS I don't remember those details, but she was definitely into drawing. Didn't she get an animation cel as a thank you for submitting artwork? I think this book is where I learned what that is.

jobin526

There are two girls, and one of them is blind, and the other girl thinks she’s annoying at first but then they become best friends and the seeing girl learns to keep her room really clean (so the blind girl can visit and not trip over everything) and to read Braille. And then at the end I think there’s a burglar or someone who tries to kill her? I think one of them might be named Jodi? But that’s probably wrong.

C_Webb

@jobin526 I think you might have melted into "Wait Until Dark" there.

jobin526

@C_Webb Here it is! http://www.amazon.com/The-Seeing-Summer-Jeannette-Eyerly/dp/067145661X
The blind girl gets kidnapped and her friend has to save her! Almost "Wait Until Dark," but not quite.
I feel so much less crazy now (although my google search with these keywords looks completely insane).

Smallison

This is a kid's picture book. It's something about unicorns - there's a baby, and the mom has to go out for the day or something, and she builds (by magic?) a cottage for the baby unicorn. But then some dragons come and try to lure the baby out? I've been trying to figure it out for YEARS!

SarahP

@Smallison I just ran upstairs to my bookshelf to find this out for you! The Baby Unicorn by Jean and Claudio Marzollo.

Smallison

@SarahP OH MY GOD!!! Thank you! You're the best!

cherrispryte

@Smallison Didn't the mom unicorn turn herself into the cottage? Am I compeletely making that up?

Leanne

@cherrispryte Yes!! Did you know that until right this second, I thought THIS book was what everyone was talking about when they reference the Last Unicorn? Cool.

Alli525

YES. I have been waiting for a post like this...

I read a horror/scary book in the mid-to-late 90s, that was probably at least 5 years old by that point(?), about a pool that was built over an Indian burial ground so there were a lot of creepy things happening (a ghost drowned a few people?). I think it was YA, I recall the majority of the characters being in their teens.

It was not Goosebumps - it was probably about double the length? And the cover (it was softcover) was a POV of someone in an indoor pool, and the room was eerily lit.

allofthewine

@Alli525 Could it have been a Fear Street book? I'm vaguely remembering that plot.

allofthewine

@allofthewine maybe The Dead Lifeguard? http://fearstreet1.blogspot.com/2008/04/dead-lifeguard-super-chiller.html

hallelujah

@allofthewine OH man Fear Street. I kind of want to go back to reading those instead of real books for a while.

Alli525

@allofthewine The cover's not right... and I don't remember it being a lifeguard-centric book.

allofthewine

@Alli525 hm... I'll keep looking. in the meantime, maybe a Pinner wants to buy a ton of Fear Street books for basically no dollars [considering how excellent they are]? http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p2047675.m570.l1313&_nkw=fear+street&_sacat=0&_from=R40

allofthewine

@allofthewine The Pool by R.S. Rue? http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/914666.The_Pool

this also looks lifeguard-centric, but it does have the view from in the pool...

lalaura

@Alli525 The author has to be Christopher Pike! (right?) But I don't know that title of that particular one.

One of these? http://www.worldcat.org/search?q=au%3APike%2C+Christopher%2C&qt=hot_author#x0%253Abook-%2Cx0%253Abook%2Bx4%253Adigital%2Cx0%253Abook%2Bx4%253Alargeprintformat

teaandcakeordeath

@Alli525
Hmm theres a weird pool in a Chris Pike book that was caused by a meteorite and the native community were scared of it, but there were no ghosts. There were creepy sexually charged vultures though!
http://yarevisited.blogspot.co.uk/2010/08/monster-christopher-pike.html

heeey

@Alli525 com, Was it The Dark And Deadly Pool by Joan Lowry Nixon?

MopRocks

@Alli525 I am pretty sure that was the plot of an episode of Are You Afraid of the Dark.

iceberg

mmm servicey. I got nothin (yet) but I love this anyway!

janesnextdoor

My older sister had a book that I loved -
it was about a baby moose who got lost in the woods and the trees were really scary. I think there was an owl. The illustrations in the book WERE scary.
Does anyone else remember those novels about girls gone bad who found religion? I remember one where the girl became a "junkie" and another one (or maybe the same one) where she stole hamburger from the grocery store because her family was too poor to buy it. She ended up in a convent and found God. My friend's mother was religious and she had those books kicking around.

Judith Slutler

All of these sound like weird dreams.

Lisa Frank

This is actually a picture book that I came across when I was 8-ish. I think it was a Caldecott Medal Winner, but I haven't been able to find it on the list of winners/ honorees. It's about a girl named Milly (Milley?) and I think it might also be the name of the book. She lives in the forest with her mother, and something/ someone bad is coming so her mother sends her away. The illustrations were very elaborate, and the book itself was large and hard-covered. I picked it up in a bookstore and started reading it, until my parents called me away and I never found out how it ends! It's been killing me for 20 years, and I've never been able to come across any evidence that this book even exists!

asharpcookie

@Lisa Frank Ahhhh, I know exactly what book you're talking about! Except for...the name. I had two copies growing up, weirdly. I think it might have been an allegory about the Holocaust, maybe? I'm now on a mission.

Nicole Cliffe

Incidentally, I never, ever figured out when books were allegories, as a kid. Not once.

asharpcookie

@Nicole Cliffe I'm pretty sure my mom had to be like, "This is an allegory."

Nicole Cliffe

Seriously. I did not even figure out that Aslan was Jesus until I was damn near thirty.

Julia duMais

@Nicole Cliffe I actually never figured it out myself; I found it out from the Internet when I was a teenager and it felt like such a betrayal. I got over it because it turned out they were still pretty fun reads, but it was a rough couple of years.

empem

@Lisa Frank LOVED THAT BOOK.

http://www.amazon.com/Dear-Mili-Wilhelm-Grimm/dp/0060543124

sarberta

@Lisa Frank I know this book! I definitely had it. Dear Mili with illustrations by Maurice Sendak!!

Lisa Frank

@empem @sarberta Yes! Ordering this right now!

hallelujah

Something happens and all the world's adults die & only children under 12 or something survive & have to rebuild society. It's been bugging me for years. I swear it's The Boy Who Owned a City but nothing comes up D: EDIT: I just googled The Girl Who Owned A City & it is in fact called that. D'oh.

Judith Slutler

@hallelujah Oh man, I don't remember how that book ended, but I remember that it made me think "That is SUCH BULLSHIT"

olivebee

@hallelujah Damn! You got there before I could answer. I actually knew that one since it was one of our required reading books in 6th grade.

Lemonnier

@hallelujah @olivebee It was required reading in my sixth grade, too! And I looked it up very recently and it's apparently supposed to convey some sort of libertarian message. Which, unsurprisingly, I did not pick up on in sixth grade.

teaandcakeordeath

Its set in Sweden. There are three families who live in three wooden houses very near each other. Everyone is best friends. The protagonist was a girl. I think they played in a hayloft. Nothing really happened but it was comforting and twee.

Helvetica

@teaandcakeordeath I've got this! It's Astrid Lindgren and the Six Bullerby Children (in the US released as The Children of Noisy Village).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Six_Bullerby_Children

teaandcakeordeath

@Helvetica
!!!
I'm speechless with amazement. This is exactly it!
THANK YOU.
My brain has been wondering about this since I was 7!

Nicole Cliffe

@Helvetica My dear friend just bought me that book for the baby!!!

Helvetica

@teaandcakeordeath Lindgren was very popular in my childhood in my country, so I've read all of her and she is goooood. Sweet, innocent childhood, the kind you wish every child would have.

Ellie

@teaandcakeordeath I adored that book. I read it so many times.

teaandcakeordeath

@Nicole Cliffe
I still hazily remember it all these years later with joy so clearly it's a good gift!

@Helvetica
It is so sweet and innocent! I dont remember anything more about it except for this nice glowy feeling I had after reading it.
Also I think for ages I thought every kid in Sweden had that exact childhood.

schrodingers_cat

@Nicole Cliffe My friend who moved to Sweden when we were kids used to send them to me. I was like "why don't more American kids know about these books, they are almost as good as Pippi."

editrickster

@teaandcakeordeath Ahh I had that book and it was great!

Helvetica

@schrodingers_cat Pippi was also written by Astrid Lindgren, fyi (in case you did not already know and allude to that).

schrodingers_cat

@Helvetica Yeah, that was kind of my point. That Pippi was much better known than the Bullerby books

OhMarie

I had one of these for the longest time and finally figured it out. It was a children's/picture book that I used to read with my grandmother, where someone was going through a company up and up through the bosses, and every time there was a bigger boss his desk got bigger and his shoulders got bigger and he got more and more secretaries.

I finally figured out after a million googles that I could never find it because it is only published in French and my grandmother, being amazing, translated it every time she read it to me. It's called "Mais je suis un ors," (But I am a bear) and the reason he kept going up to all of the bosses was because they kept trying to get him to do stuff and he kept telling them that he couldn't because he is a bear.

OhMarie

@OhMarie I am literally buying it on amazon.fr right now. I cannot handle not having this book in my life.

thatgirl

@OhMarie ...I must have this. Or I will die.

Cat named Virtute

@OhMarie OH MY GOD. I know exactly what book this is and it does exist in English!! I work in a used and antiquarian bookstore and I JUST came across this like, last month and was so charmed that I sat down in the aisle and read the whole thing. I will try to find it and take a picture of the cover for you! Or if you feel like ordering a book from Canada, you can call me at work! I'm in next on Monday, and I will totally get back to you on this.

OhMarie

@Cat named Virtute WHAT AMAZING, yes please do this! Double points for a picture of one fot he bosses!

SarahP

@OhMarie IT'S CALLED THE BEAR THAT WASN'T IN ENGLISH AND THERE WAS ALSO A CARTOON AND MY WHOLE FAMILY IS SO OBSESSED WITH IT SO I HAVE TO TYPE IN CAPS

OhMarie

@SarahP Holyshitholyshitholyshit look at this: http://funnyaminals.com/2011/02/28/the-bear-that-wasnt/

AMAZING!!!

So my grandmother's copy was definitely in French, but the real question is how did none of my googling turn up the English version of this book?! Maybe my mother had tipped me off that it was in French or something.

OhMarie

@OhMarie You guys, and each boss's hairline gets farther and farther back! This book is clearly the greatest.

Cat named Virtute

@OhMarie So all this time later, I finally found the copy that my work has, and it's a whopping three dollars. Do you still want it? I could send it to you.

yunkstahn

"The Ghost of [something something, maybe Indian something]." A teenage (?) girl named Alice goes to live somewhere else (with her dad? neither of her parents?) over the summer. She hates her name and feels like a freak. Her dad calls her "Al" and she doesn't like that. There's a nice boy, an Indian legend, and possible supernatural activity. Alice learns to accept herself, etc., and comes away with the nickname "Ali." I got it through the Weekly Reader thing. This one has been driving me nuts for years!

olivebee

@yunkstahn Is it Deep and Dark and Dangerous? The 11-year-old I tutor was reading that book like 2 months ago, and it sounds like what you're describing. The main character was Ali.

yunkstahn

@olivebee Hmm, I don't think that's it--the one I'm thinking of is less ghosty and more coming-of-agey. But D&D&D totally sounds like something I would have read!

saritasara

@yunkstahn Oh my god, THANK YOU for that! You posting that response led me to "Wait til Helen Comes" by the same author, which is totally the book that I have been trying to remember for ages! (And which apparently is super similar to D&D&D? Odd.)
Anyway, I can finally rest in peace after that! lol.

LydiaBennett

@yunkstahn So late in coming but this actually sounds a lot like What the Moon Saw by Laura Resau, but she was Mexican instead of Indian..
Clara Luna's name means "clear moon" in Spanish. But lately, her head has felt anything but clear. One day a letter comes from Mexico, written in Spanish: Dear Clara, We invite you to our house for the summer. We will wait for you on the day of the full moon, in June, at the Oaxaca airport. Love, your grandparents.

littleoaks

OK, middle-grade book about a girl named Lizzie. The only thing I remember about the plot is that she makes a cooler friend who convinces her to redecorate her bedroom with some trendy, possibly neon gear instead of the country quilt and pitcher (??) she really wanted. Lizzie has a passel of siblings, as one does in kids' books. Her little sisters are DEFINITELY named Darcy and Rose.

C_Webb

@littleoaks AAAGH I can picture it! It had wavy 70s illustrations!

littleoaks

@C_Webb Uh oh, now we're going to have to track down your book, since I'm pretty sure it's not the same as my book. I don't remember any illustrations, and mine was definitely an 80s or early 90s book--I remember the characters mentioning Princess Diana.

Fwuffy Kitty

@littleoaks I remember that book! It's from the Dear Diary series. I found it on GoodReads here http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1007958.The_Party.

ms. alex

There was a book that I read in fourth or fifth grade that was about these kids, and like the neighbors or something were involved in a money laundering scheme, and it had a white cover that I think had a picture that was like a map or something that the kids drew.

yeah-elle

@ms. alex STELLA STREET AND EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED!

I love that book so much. Please tell me it's that one because no one ever knows about that book!

ms. alex

@yeah-elle I think it might be! 1998 is the right time. And the names sound familiar.

I'm going to request it from the library and find out! THIS IS SO EXCITING.

yeah-elle

@ms. alex The main character's best friend has electric hair that he whips a comb through to disable the car lock on Mr. Phony's car when he's trying to escape in the airport. They have a daschund named Briquette who gets in the neighbor's trash all the time. There's a scene where they are spying outside the neighbor's house and Mrs. Phony comes out and screams and they think they are caught but she really has a slug on her slipper! One of the characters puts a green bean under her lip for a disguise!

Oh man clearly I love this book too much, haha.

ms. alex

@yeah-elle I'm amazed you were able to think of it from my description. But then again, how many kids books about money laundering neighbors can there be? (Plenty, I guess, since I haven't been able to find this one lo these many years!)

yeah-elle

@ms. alex To be fair, the book taught me what money laundering is at all, so whenever I hear the term, my mind automatically jumps to the book! And also, I think the book may have fallen out of print for a while, sadly.

zb
zb

Ok, but what's the name of the sequel where they all go camping? and I think someone has a baby?

zb
zb

@zb at least, I think the book I'm thinking of is a sequel to 45 & 47 Stella St...

yeah-elle

@zb Fiddleback! I think one of the moms is pregnant and then she gives birth while they're camping? The author is Elizabeth Honey. She also wrote Don't Pat the Wombat which is a really touching (and stressful!) story about this violently angry teacher nicknamed The Bomb who picks on this new kid, Jonah. Jonas? Something like that.

zb
zb

@yeah-elle Thanks! I need to track these down again.

ms. alex

@yeah-elle I just finished reading it. It was the right book! And it was so wonderful! The bowling balls! The kid with electric hair! The magenta fence!

I didn't know there was a sequel. I'll have to check it out.

ironhoneybee

There were a bunch of kids clearly involved in some kind of scientific experiment. They were kept locked in a large room that had lights and tubes and when the lights flashed, if the kids performed a certain dance, the tubes would shoot out some kind of meat-like substance. It took the kids weeks of trial and error and much weakness and starving to figure out how to do the dance to get enough sustenance to get their strength back up, then somehow they escape, perhaps too conveniently, back into the world. Then, as soon as they encounter an intersection a short distance from the facility in which they have presumably been held most of their lives, they see a traffic light, perhaps for the first time. And immediately, they all begin to perform the dance.

I swear I did not dream this.

Nicole Cliffe

@ironhoneybee omigod

the roughest toughest frail

@ironhoneybee I have no idea what book this is, but I'm jumping on this thread because I desperately want to know more about it.

yunkstahn

@ironhoneybee House of Stairs! This one was in my grade school library and I unsuspectingly read it. Freaked my shit out.

http://www.amazon.com/House-Stairs-William-Sleator/dp/0140345809/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1360342251&sr=1-1&keywords=house+of+stairs

ironhoneybee

@yunkstahn THANK YOU.

yunkstahn

@ironhoneybee My pleasure! Whenever I have bad dreams about stairwells (which is a bit too often), I blame that book.

SarahP

@yunkstahn EVERYTHING by this guys is awesome, by the way. I went on a William Sleater kick when I was 14 and lover everything.

Mrs. PotatoHead

@ironhoneybee

Thank you thank you! THIS is the book I was going to ask about in this thread! I read it decades ago and think of it still, never sure if it was a dream or a real book, because JUST SO WIERD.

Kallie

@ironhoneybee I think I read this one. Did they also get food if they treated one of the other kids badly? I remember the author describing an overweight girl getting really mean to get more food. Of course, vilify the overweight girl.

Chesty LaRue

@ironhoneybee O.M.G
Another book by the same author called "The Boy Who Reversed Himself" is exactly what I was looking for in this thread.

Nicole Cliffe

Oh, I have another one! Dystopian underground society, boy is trained from birth to remember strings of numbers, eventually has to, like, use this ability to activate/deactive a weapon? Chilly father figure.

teaandcakeordeath

@Nicole Cliffe
This sounds familiar - but only because I remember how annoying it was to read and skip over strands of numbers all the time. Not because I remember anything useful about it. Dammit.

Miss Sparrow

#2 is Fourteen and Holding by Candice F. Ransom.

Nicole Cliffe

@Miss Sparrow YES!

Miss Sparrow

@Nicole Cliffe brb, going to give myself a geometric haircut.

Megasus

Hm, the one I think about most is about these boy-girl twins, and they wind up getting mixed up in a Witch's coven, and they bone each other on Samhain or something and like, keep doing for most of the book. Pretty sure they stop somewhere near the end. And no, it's not a VC Andrews novel.

Scandyhoovian

@Megano! Haha for the first half a sentence I was going to be like "Oh, it's Alanna!" and then I got to the second line and was like "woah ho ho it is not Alanna" and now I don't have an answer for you, but I kind of want to know if someone else does...

Steph

@Megano! Sounds a tiny bit like Mists of Avalon but probs not?

Megasus

@Steph Nope, contemporary setting. Also I would remember if it was either of those books.

Apocalypstick

@Megano! Is it Donna Tart's The Secret History? That has boning twins iirc.

LoSD

@Megasus Could it be "The Heart of a Witch" by Judith Hawkes

Megasus

@LoSD IT MIGHT BE

muffalutta

Two kids are in a big fancy house that they had to move into- and I think their parents neglect them or are mean to them or something. Anyway, they discover a magic room in the house which becomes anything they imagine. I think at first they imagine fun things, but once they get fed up with their parents, they bring them into the magic room, imagine a wild tiger/lion and it eats their parents. I cannot remember if they regretted it or not.

Also, one that involved an angsty teen who had to live in a beach house and in the end learned a lesson and hung a bunch of seashells from the ceiling by strings.

I think both are from the "Junior Great Books" series that had surprisingly dark stuff that was SO GOOD at that age.

C_Webb

@muffalutta It's a Ray Bradbury story called "The Veldt." The room isn't magic; it's a nursery with screens for walls that show whatever they imagine.

Helvetica

@muffalutta Omg, I just read it! It's The Veldt by Ray Bradbury, an amazing short story. And you can read it here: http://www.veddma.com/veddma/Veldt.htm

muffalutta

@muffalutta and also, there is one where there is only sunlight once per year in this civilization and all the children gang up on one kid and lock the kid in a closet so he doesn't get to see the sun.

muffalutta

@C_Webb THANK YOU this is so satisfying.

smidge

@muffalutta Also Ray Badbury I think? They live on Venus?

smidge

@muffalutta All Summer in a Day

Nicole Cliffe

@smidge @muffalutta Yes, it's Bradbury, and it's the WORST. I mean, it's great, but it's so, so sad.

muffalutta

@Nicole Cliffe I just reread both over lunch and am both evilly delighted and heartbroken! I think that a reread of more Bradbury and Shirley Jackson is in my near future.

Julia duMais

@muffalutta We read that in my English class in middle school! I got so fucking angry and wanted to punch pretty much everyone and also cry. It was terrible. I mean, lovely, but terrible.

Spinsters Get Up For Breakfast

@muffalutta Yes! It is "The Veldt" by Ray Bradbury and you can hear Stephen Colbert read it on the podcast of Selected Shorts here: http://selectedshortspri.pri.libsynpro.com/rss in the "Dreams and Schemes" episode and it is fantastic.

kinbarichan

@Spinsters Get Up For Breakfast: There's also a SONG by Deadmau5 called "The Veldt" that's from the children's point of view and it has a VIDEO. So cool!

Helvetica

It was a young adult novel. The protagonist was a good girl who was attracted to this bad boy named Shane (and his name was a Big Thing) with amazing green eyes. And stuff happened. Her baby sister's name was Charity - and she had loads of sisters - and it was all so mushy and innocent and somehow captivating.

Rock and Roll Ken Doll

Hi Nicole! Not exactly on point, but thanks for recommending 'The Thorn Birds' a while back, I found a copy in a wheelbarrow of used books and it's pretty great!

Nicole Cliffe

@Rock and Roll Ken Doll Oh, I'm so pleased!

BosomBuddy

@Rock and Roll Ken Doll I just finished reading it, too! I was sorry to have missed out in the Classic Trash discussion, but at least the column served as inspiration.

IceHouseLizzie

@Nicole Cliffe Oh, man! I love The Thorn Birds!! Most people think it is about an epic romance between Meggie and Ralph...but, really it is about Meggie's battle with God. Also, for some reason I really, really love Mary Carson....she is so wicked...she basically is the catalyst for the whole story....everything that happens to Ralph and Meggie is Mary's doing. LOVE!

calamity

A 10 or 11 year old girl and her best friend have a secret ... club? Or something? I really don't remember the plot of the book except the girl starts becoming friends with a boy in her class, and I think she tells him about the club. And then does something mean to him? Something that my childhood brain didn't think was that mean because I remember being kind of confused by that part? I DON'T KNOW.

What I DO remember clearly is that at the very end, the girl is apologizing on the phone to the boy for whatever she did, and asks how she can make up for it. And he tells her to eat a raw egg, shell and all. She asks how he'll know that she does it, and he says he'll trust her. So she eats the raw egg, I believe while she's still on the phone with the boy.

This MAY OR MAY NOT be the same book as another one, where the main character is named Helen but sometimes her friends call her Hel for short and they have a new teacher who gets mad at them for referring to her with such a terrible nickname even though they are like "... but it is short for her real name."

Anyone???

MsLady

@calamity The "Helen" one is "Sixth Grade Can Really Kill You" by Barthe deClements. I think I know the other one, too, but I can't remember the name. There's like, a war between the boys and the girls in the class and they keep writing mean messages on the chalkboard to each other or something?

MsLady

@MsGray Aaagh, the other one is "Sixth Grade Secrets" by Louis Sachar.

calamity

@MsGray Ahh, thanks!!

I had them linked in my mind somehow - I guess somewhere way deep in there I knew they both had to do with sixth grade?

themegnapkin

@MsGray is that the sequel to "How to eat Fried Worms"?

thedivinelorraine

@MsGray @calamity Aaaah I was going to post about this same book! 6th grade secrets! All I remembered was someone tricking the girl into leaning by a fence and they cut off her long beautiful hair. This thread is the best.

honey cowl

@calamity I have read that! (I think this is the only book so far on this thread I have actually read)

robotosaur

@calamity Oh man! Is that the same book where the main character (Helen I guess) spray paints "SCHOOL MAKES ME PUK" and then the school makes everyone spell "puke" to try to find the vandal?

MsLady

@robotosaur Yup! I read that book SO many times, along with "Nothing's Fair in Fifth Grade". I still have both of my childhood copies of these books.

Spinsters Get Up For Breakfast

@thedivinelorraine Yes she is so proud of never having told a lie before or something...somehow that is tied in with her never having cut her hair? I think she also goes to a garage sale and buys some baseball cap that's supposed to be $2 but the old man selling it tells her he likes her hair so he'll knock it down to $1 and she is like "No! I will PAY the $2 because it's not FAIR to be treated special for being pretty!"

does it need saying

@thedivinelorraine Is this the same book about a girl who's parents wouldn't make her cut her hair if she didn't want to as long as she never lied to them?

thedivinelorraine

@Spinsters Get Up For Breakfast @does it need saying Yes! I forgot that part. And the hat has something about a pig on it maybe?

stonefruit

@MsGray yes! and there were the other ones about Elsie and Jenny! And the one about Helen was the first time I learned about learning disorders! Wow. This thread is basically the best ever.

@thedivinelorraine also yes! And her secret club is Pig City, and the other, rival club makes up a slogan about how Pig City is nothing but bacon and ham/eggs (one of the guys in the rival club can't get it right on the prank calls). Louis Sachar is just incredibly gifted at getting inside the tween mind.

miss lonelyhearts

@calamity Laura Sibbie went to class / her hair was long and pretty / stuck a feather in her cap / and called it Pig City / Pig City is the best / Monkey Town is mustard / they're uglier than all the rest / and mushier than custard

That's the song a Pig City member pens in response to Monkey Town's mean song about Pig City and oh my god why do I remember this all so clearly

funfetti

There's a girl that goes to be ~one with nature~ or something (think Hatchet, My Side of the Mountain type) and makes an otter bff except not really because the otter ditches her for a pretty female otter? Perhaps set in the Florida Everglades?

roadtrips

@funfetti The Talking Earth by Jean Craig! I loooooved that one.

funfetti

@roadtrips YES! Thank you!

hallelujah

Scary YA, maybe Christopher Pike? A group of teenagers somehow end up in this evil pact where they have to pass some kind of awful test (one girl cuts off her own finger, another drowns her puppy) in order to not die? But they sell their souls in the process? It may have something to do with a chain letter? There's some imagery in there that haunts me to do this day.

hoo:ha

@hallelujah It's called Chain Letter! And yes, it's by Christopher Pike... and they got scary letters from "The Caretaker!" scared the peewoddens out of me.

hallelujah

@hoo:ha HA jesus I could have figured that out via google so easily. So scary though, right?? Like somebody's walking on a fence & it turns into razor & cuts them in half?? Gahhhhhhhhhhhhh.

teaandcakeordeath

@hallelujah
Chain Letter!
http://likepike.blogspot.co.uk/2008/06/chain-letter.html
Curse my encyclopaedic memory of Chris Pike books.

hallelujah

@teaandcakeordeath It's Chain Letter 2!!!!!!!! I actually never read the first one. That website showed me the light though!

anachronistique

@hallelujah Holy shit, I also read Chain Letter 2 but NOT the first one. Emeralds are too soft to make good rings!

teaandcakeordeath

@hallelujah
Careful now. The website gets addictive ...

allofthewine

@teaandcakeordeath there's a potential christopher pike above re: a haunted pool, if you want to assist. I have not been helpful because i really want it to be a fear street book.

teaandcakeordeath

@allofthewine
Investigated! I feel like Sherlock Holmes (with a very specific knowlege set)

Atheist Watermelon

@teaandcakeordeath I possess the same Christopher Pike-specific knowledge set :-) Later it expanded to include Stephen King as well...

RebeccaKW

There was a series of books (I'm remembering it as a series. Maybe it was only 1?) About a family living out in the middle of nowhere and the parents die maybe? 4 kids, 2 girls (in their teens), 2 boys, I think, the oldest sister is a bit slow, and the 2nd oldest sister basically takes care of them. And at one point, a man is introduced as sort of a love interest for the oldest girl-he may be a new neighbor or something? My clearest memory is the love interest man has a car, and capable sister can't learn to drive, but the slow sister masters it easily.

roadtrips

@RebeccaKW The Boxcar Children?

Another Kate

@RebeccaKW -- Could it be Where the Lilies Bloom by Bill and Vera Cleaver? The "slow" older sister who hooks up with the more well-to-do neighbor sounds familiar.

RebeccaKW

@Another Kate Wow, thank you. I looked it up and I can't believe how off I was on the description, yet you were able to figure it out. As much as I remember loving that book, I obviously didn't retain much of it.

C_Webb

@RebeccaKW They made it a movie!

RebeccaKW

@C_Webb I'm going to have to re-read it, as I obviously need a refresher, but I would be interested in seeing the movie, gonna have to find that, too.

lenka_V

@RebeccaKW I remember that book! It pissed me off because, as a 10 year old or whatever, my understanding was that the oldest sister was mentally disabled and then this guy comes along to marry her and suddenly she's intelligent and capable of taking care of the family? Maybe there was more nuance to it that I missed, but kid me was calling bullshit on that so badly.

hoo:ha

All I had in my head was "Claudia, Jamie, runaway to Metropolitan Museum of Art, some statue" but that google search quickly let me to the answer: From the mixed-up files of Mrs. Basil E. Frankweiler. Not sure HOW I forgot that title.

Nicole Cliffe

@hoo:ha OH, and we are all long overdue for a blissful re-read of the same!

HeyThatsMyBike

@Nicole Cliffe I love that book so much. One of my favorites.

yeah-elle

@hoo:ha I reread this a few months ago and it was just as delightful as ever. Such a good book!

JanieS

@hoo:ha BEST. BOOK. EVER.

I'm Right on Top of that, Rose

@hoo:ha Didn't they hide in the bathroom or something? This has sparked some memories!

JanieS

@I'm Right on Top of that, Rose And they gather coins that people threw in a decorative fountain. And they eat at an Automat, which sounded like the COOLEST THING. (I'm capslocking all over the place today.)

laurel

Oh, the irritation of greying laundry.

breccia

@hoo:ha AUGH love that book! I remember hearing about Night at the Museum for the first time and I was like "How the hell did they cast BEN STILLER in this movie?!" and then I read the plot and was sorely disappointed.

Bittersweet

@hoo:ha I love this book, and have not given up on getting my 10-year-old to love it too. CLAUDIA 4EVA.

starlight211

Yes! I've been waiting for a thread like this! There is one I remember from Battle of the Books (did anyone else do this in middle school? would have been '96-'98 or so in this case) that involved a group of teenagers that were sent to another planet because of overcrowding on earth. They built a really awesome sounding loft, the protagonist was named something like Lissa, and they named the new planet Pride. It was sort of Ender's Game-esque I think?

smidge

@starlight211 and they couldn't walk on the grass because it was too sharp and they were wearing slippers?

smidge

@starlight211 The Green Book by Jill Paton Walsh?

smidge

@starlight211 Actually I might be confusing your book for a different one.

starlight211

@smidge Looked it up, does not sound quite right. They were ...in training? There were 8 or so of them, they had to go to this facility and do computer simulations to like learn how to survive in the wild. One day they went through what they thought was a really weird simulation that they could not get out of but it turns out they had been put in pods and shipped to another planet, along with other like tribes of teenagers- I think they meet some of them at the end and talk about their new society?

wickedtongue
wickedtongue

@starlight211 You're thinking of Invitation to the Game, by Monica Hughes! I loved that book, and I've never known anybody else to have read it!

starlight211

@wickedtongue Yes! Thank you! I think the recent Hunger Games mania is what brought it to mind- now I just need to figure out how to procure a copy in advance of the giant snowstorm...

Homestar Runner

@wickedtongue YESSSSSSS. I must have checked that book out of the school library 10 times. So, so good. Actually, it would be awesome for anyone suffering from Hunger Games withdrawals--it has the same "terrible society, survival in a strange world" feel to it.

Ellie

@smidge We read The Green Book in school in fourth or fifth grade and it made a big impression on me. I was so sad about the rabbits.

wickedtongue
wickedtongue

@starlight211 Check your local library. I've actually been thinking about the book recently, because I'm about to graduate from grad school, and I've been thinking "Oh no, I'll be all jobless and aimless, just like those kids in that book, if only someone will pass me a secret token to the government's secret program to relocate all of us aimless youths to another planet! I'd be great at that!!!"

I mean, I haven't thought about it a lot. Just, you know, as an imaginary back-up plan if I don't find a job. :-)

Nicole Cliffe

In another success story, I spent years thinking I had dreamed about a star (like, in the sky) who was sent to Earth and turned into a dog as punishment for something, but it is completely real and it's "Dogsbody" by the sainted Diana Wynne Jones.

sarberta

@Nicole Cliffe I LOVED this book as well, used to list it as my favorite book when asked in elementary and junior high. Only reason I would remember the name!

missupright

@Nicole Cliffe Did NOT remember that that was by DWJ! Of course it is, she is wonderful, I love her and I bloody love Dogsbody.

Mariah Mantis@twitter

@Nicole Cliffe OMG one of my favorites. Diana Wynne Jones is a huge part of why I am as esoterically weird as I am today.

katieeitak

So I'm going to guess #3 is NOT Half Magic by Edward Eager?

Nicole Cliffe

@katieeitak It is not, but I just bought that one for my littlest niece!

Nicole Cliffe

Oh, and I think I read a fragment of this book in a reader in middle school, but the entire society is just boats passing through dark tunnels, and one kid becomes convinced they're going in circles, and decides the only way to prove it is to jump out of the boat and hope they circle back to him.

themegnapkin

@Nicole Cliffe I hope someone can identify this because now I really want to read it.

[sic]

@Nicole Cliffe I've asked around, and it looks like it could be The Journey Outside by Mary Q. Steele.

Nicole Cliffe

IT ISSSS! Thank you!

Tammy Pajamas

This is not at all a children's book, but I was searching forever for this this morning, to no avail: an article/editorial in the NYT in the past year or year and a half, where the author, who I believe is a writer, advocates working less and spending time more wisely. He complains about people being too busy and relates a story where he asked his friend to get a drink later in the week and the friend responds by saying something like, "I've got some stuff going on, but ask me again later in the week." The author responds that he's asking *now*.
That's all I've got, but people were posting this article like mad on FB at the time.

Hilary Lehman@twitter

@Tammy Pajamas http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/06/30/the-busy-trap/

Lisa Frank

@Tammy Pajamas Was it the "The Busy Trap" by Tim Kreider? http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/06/30/the-busy-trap/

Tammy Pajamas

@Hilary Lehman@twitter @Lisa Frank Yes! Thanks!

fabel

I love this. Okay, mine is an adolescent book (like, skewed young but definitely all words, no pictures) about a boy named Jethro (his name was definitely Jethro, & to this day, I have a thing for that name) who goes into some...cave thing? And gets maybe stuck in there & magical shit happens & there is this female figure present, like she's not quite human, maybe? I basically remember nothing about the plot. The book cover at the time was purple-ish, I think, and the illustration was a little boy's face (Jethro) superimposed on the bottom of the cave entrance, popping out of the ground sort of.

HeyThatsMyBike

@fabel Ok, I feel like I've read this one, but the fact that there is apparently a male model named "Jethro Cave" is totally killing my google sleuthing.

queenofbithynia

@HeyThatsMyBike I can't believe I just learned that

one of NICK CAVE'S SON(s) IS A MODEL

I feel something about this but I don't know what

fabel

@queenofbithynia OMG IT'S NICK CAVE'S SON. Did not realize that until you said it.

Oh well, I guess even if I never learn what book that was...I know this. I know this.

HeyThatsMyBike

@queenofbithynia Whoa!! The more you know!!

hellmouth

@fabel The Stranger, Caroline B. Cooney? Definitely has that cover, too!

fabel

@hellmouth OMG, yes!!!

Oh, squiggles

This post inspired me to look up a series of books that I used to read in middle school. We used to be allowed to go the the school library and check books out during one of my classes, and I can just remember reading a bunch of books that were sort of horror, sometimes mystical/mystery.

After some interwebs research, turns out they were by Lois Duncan. And apparently a lot of her books have been adapted into movies.

christonacracker

@Absurd Bird my favorite was down a dark hall -- a boarding school where the students channel dead artists at night.

Miss Kitty Fantastico

@Absurd Bird these were the best/worst. I loved her. Also Carolyn B. Cooney.

Oh, squiggles

@christonacracker That was a good one!

ironhoneybee

@Absurd Bird Yes, that one was amazing! Also just reread The Daughters of Eve, which she's updated for a new edition. It was really disconcerting to read stuff about cell phones and texting and email in a book I remember from my childhood, where all phones had cords and all mail had stamps.

Better to Eat You With

@Absurd Bird I loved all the Lois Duncan books so much. What was the one about astral projection?

Honoria Lucasta

@Better to Eat You With Stranger with My Face! That one STILL haunts me.

JanieS

OH OH I hope someone can help me with this! It's a YA book from Scholastic (because all of my books were ordered through those Scholastic book fair/club/things). It was historical fiction about
a) English setter family in the 1700s who
b) get kidnapped by Indians and
c) forced to run a gauntlet
Some other stuff happens and then somehow
d) the girls in the family end up in Montreal learning how to be classy and French and drinking hot chocolate, while their little brother becomes totally habituated into being an Algonquin, but
e) they ultimately all end up back in English-settler land.

I'M PRETTY SURE THIS WAS BASED ON A TRUE STORY. It has been driving me nuts for years.

Cawendaw

@JanieS Calico Captive? I think that was the first chapter book I ever read from the classroom bookshelf.

christonacracker

@Cawendaw That's my guess too!

JanieS

@Cawendaw 1000 BLESSINGS ON YOUR HEAD. SERIOUSLY.

wickedtongue
wickedtongue

@Cawendaw Oh God, I loved Calico Captive!!!! I think I read it in third or fourth grade? And it was actually my favorite Elizabeth George Speare novel, and nobody has ever known it.

Homestar Runner

@wickedtongue I'm pretty sure we had the same childhood, since I'm just following you around and frantically thumbs-upping your memories. The rich French-Canadian girl said the other one was "so droll, Maman!"

JanieS

@Homestar Runner OH OH and someone at some point was doing embroidery and made something called an etui, and I was thinking "what in fresh hell is an etui" and I couldn't just look it up because the internet had not yet been invented. (Apparently it's a "small, ornamental case".)

eringobragh

@JanieS are you thinking of Mary Jemison?? Kidnapped by Senecas? I wanna say it was called Indian Captive: the story of Mary Jemison. Newbury trophy status, I never knew!

HereKitty

@JanieS A gender-reversed real-life version of this story is "The Unredeemed Captive," by John Demos, which is far from perfect but incredibly involving.

Eightman

@JanieS That's two different books. The first, with the gauntlet, is Indian Captive bya Lois Lenski, about Mary Jemison. The second with the part about Montreal is Calico Captive, by Elizabeth George Speare. It;s about Susannah Johnson of New Hampshire, although I think it's told through her younger sister's pov. And she almost falls in love with the French Canadian guy, but in the end she goes home.

C_Webb

Dam I'm old. Waiting here with my tail flicking, ready to knock some Paula Danziger, Norma Klein, Zilpha Keatley Snyder, and Ruth M. Arthur out of the park.

C_Webb

@C_Webb Here's a kid book anecdote: found out that one of my favorite books was illustrated by the grandfather of a guy I boned who dumped me ludicrously. Cannot say anything more, but it was kind of wonderful and horrible at the same time (the discovering, that is ... the dumping was pure horror).

Nicole Cliffe

@C_Webb The Cat Ate My Gymsuit! There's a Bat in Bunk [Something]!

roadtrips

@C_Webb The Headless Cupid! The Egypt Game! The one about the magic cat with glowing eyes!

C_Webb

@roadtrip, Nicole Cliffe: YES THANK YOU!!!! And The Changeling!

Chills

@C_Webb I found out an ex was descended from the author of one of my favourite childhood books and then he dumped me horribly (at a train station!)
Clearly ancestry wasn't the good sign i thought it was...

szarah

@C_Webb There's a Bat in Bunk Five! She goes on a date and her pantyhose keep falling down so she has to take them off and it's so embarrassing!! Also, The Egypt Game allll the time.

Manchester Tart

@C_Webb I was just about to post mine - 'girl has boyfriend, moves away with parents (possibly another planet or am I dreaming that?) and is jealous of his friendship with another girl called Tapioca maybe? I remember the name because I'd never heard of the stuff before. Something something ice cream flavours. Other stuff happens'. But then I did some googling and found it was Paula Danziger 'This Place Has No Atmosphere'. And now I need to go reread everything she ever wrote.

missupright

@C_Webb I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT PAULA DANZIGER!!!!! Did she write a book about:
-a boy who likes junk food? And his mom is always saying "lips that touch sugar won't touch mine" and she makes him a "carob cake", which I still don't know what it is, and there are "gummy worms", which I also don't know what they are? And there is possibly a girl called Veronica/Vanessa in his class, and he leaves her a sign saying "You can pick your friends, you can pick your nose but Vanessa ____ picks her friend's nose". I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THIS BOOK IS BUT I REMEMBER IT.

ETA: I was just telling my boyfriend about this thread, and he said "Can you ask if anyone knows a book about a girl called Jill who changed her name to Jil!, with an exclamation mark?" AND IT IS THE SAME BOOK I THINK

Nicole Cliffe

OH, I remember those, were they Paula Danziger? There's another one in the series in which the kids are trying to save money, and one in which they become really environmentally-conscious and go to the planetarium for a sleepover, but Veronica/Vanessa sneaks in a hair-dryer.

Nicole Cliffe

Carob is a fucking joke, and chocolate is so good for you!

Bittersweet

@Nicole Cliffe Ugh, carob. File that one under "nasty foods from the 70s that they thought were better for you, but really weren't." Right next to margarine and saccharine.

Manchester Tart

@missupright Make Like a Tree and Leave? I think the boy was called Matthew and I remember the junk food but not the other stuff. .... Just googled and Matthew had a series of books, another one was Everyone Else's Parents Said Yes.

stonefruit

@roadtrips WITCHES OF WORM!

flanhoodles

@C_Webb One I'm thinking of, that I think is Paula Danziger (maybe Ellen Conford?) about a girl in New York who has some amount of siblings, and some kids of family friends come to stay with them and they have to do this giant educational scavenger hunt all over New York. If they complete it, they get to go on vacation to Hawaii? Or maybe Australia? Anyone know?

emilywhite

@flanhoodles Remember Me to Harold Square! The sequel was in London and is called Thames Doesn't Rhyme With James. (I signed up after 3 or 4 years of 'Pin-reading to tell you this, so much was I obsessed with Paula Danziger.)

Nicole Cliffe

I LOVE "REMEMBER ME TO HAROLD SQUARE."

emilywhite

@Nicole Cliffe It gave me a love of citywide scavenger hunts that has followed me through decades and across continents, no joke. No one ever asks me to plan daylong events any more...

Nicole Cliffe

Maybe you could do geocaching!

Britta Sorensen@facebook

@C_Webb I loved a book called My Name is Sus5an Smith: The Five is Silent. Until I just searched for it I thought it was callled Lis5a: The Five is Silent. But I think I was confusing it with Invisable Lissa.

Eightman

@missupright Is is Pardon Me, You're Stepping On My Eyeball?

roadtrips

Three, maybe four girls have a club where they write secret restaurant reviews for the local paper. They're eventually exposed by the snooty proprietor of the local French restaurant. Anyone?

peachpeonies

Book about a teenage girl who joins this secret club (possibly all boys) who wear cloaks during their meetings?

HillsideHoyden

@peachpeonies I think that one is The Trial of Anna Cotman? Her secret name is Yellow Bird? And there is a boy that is nice but he leaves? And a way older guy joins, and maybe something about drugs?

Karen Healey@twitter

@peachpeonies THE TRIAL OF ANNA COTMAN! Also known as Baby Karen's nascent feminist awakening.

peachpeonies

@HillsideHoyden and Karen Healey
YES! Ladies, you are the best! Many, many thanks! That has been driving me up the wall for years. Yellow Bird! So funny, I love that books connect completely random people in this way.

christonacracker

A bunch of kids turn into birds (swans?) at night and eat cold beans out of a can.

lumbermouth

@christonacracker oh boy, i hope someone knows this one, because I'm dying to read it.

christonacracker

@lumbermouth Spoiler alert -- it's actually about the pigeons outside my office.

OhMarie

@christonacracker I doubt this is actually the correct book since it's pretty recent, but if you really want to read about bird kids James Patterson has a series called Maximum Ride. I read the first one and it wasn't terrible!

JessicaLovejoy

Not a kid's book. There is a young girl perhaps named Sophie? She is a mega genius. So much so she creates a boy with her mind. Named Roman. He goes around killing people for her. Also I think her dad maybe created her in a lab using only his DNA somehow? HALP.

I'm Right on Top of that, Rose

@JessicaLovejoy Aren't most kids created in laps with DNA? *snicker* *I am not helping.*

JessicaLovejoy

@I'm Right on Top of that, Rose :waves fist in your general direction:

Scandyhoovian

OH I thought of another, I think it was one in a series -- a girl goes into a fancy old house and is transported back in time... there are murder mysteries and she's able to go back and forth but she falls for a guy from the past?

roadtrips

@Scandyhoovian Ooooh, I remember the covers of these. Was her name Elizabeth maybe? And she had kind of questionable 90s mall hair paired with a fancy princessy dress?

Scandyhoovian

@roadtrips Maybe? I feel like the boy's name was sort of weird and silly, like Stet or Stat or Stad or something.

annestofannes

@Scandyhoovian I'm so excited if this is what I think it is, Both Sides of Time by Caroline B Cooney?? I think it has a sequel!

Miss Kitty Fantastico

@Scandyhoovian I don't know but this book would have been right up my alley as a child. Supernatural murder mysteries involving time travel FTW.

HeyThatsMyBike

@Scandyhoovian Both Sides of Time!

Ellie

Two other great time travel books are Charlotte Sometimes (which I found very sad/disturbing, but in a non-scary way) and The Hunky-Dory Dairy.

Scandyhoovian

@Ellie YES! IT'S CAROLINE COONEY! THANK YOU!

Kallie

@Scandyhoovian I def read this one! It was the first time I had ever heard of a hot water bottle heater that the other girl back in time puts in her bed. I was like, water bottles under your covers??

Lexa Lane

Okay, I have a slightly different problem: I remember the title and plot very clearly, but don't know the author and interwebs searches turn up NOTHING. (How is the possible?) Did anyone else read The Piccolinis? About a family of dolls who used to travel with a circus? And then somehow the dollhouse ends up with this new family, and they have to rescue a ballerina doll from a house where the woman she was modeled after was kept from running away with her fiance (who was in the circus)? I'm not making this up, and NOWHERE on the internet does this book exist. There was a sequel, too.

JessicaLovejoy

@Lexa Lane Have you tried eBay?

Miss Kitty Fantastico

@Lexa Lane are they life-sized dolls or are they doll-sized dolls? I remember reading an awesome serioes (maybe just 2 books) about a family of life-sized dolls who are alive and live in an old mansion and when they go out to shop, they have to wear scarves and hats to cover their faces so no one knows they are dolls.

oboe-d-amore

@Madeline Shoes That one is called the Mennyms! I know that because I recently uncovered a very old book report which I did on it.

Lexa Lane

@JessicaLovejoy Good thought, but no luck. :-(

@Madeline Shoes No, they were doll-sized dolls, but that one sounds cool!

nanlamb

@Lexa Lane I totally read and was obsessed with The Piccolinis. I went on a desperate internet search for it a few months back and did find a used copy for sale on Amazon, but that was all I could find. I don't remember why I didn't buy it--maybe it was ridiculously expensive, dunno. They were tiny little circus acrobat dolls and I believe there was a murder-mystery that they helped solve. Maybe not?

ironhoneybee

@nanlamb Starting at $.01!
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/0553155660

Miss Kitty Fantastico

@oboe-d-amore YES THE MENNYMS. I loved those books but now the premise sounds very creepy.

Apocalypstick

@Madeline Shoes Oo yes and eventually one of them went through an allegorical door in the attic and one of them got a human boyfriend who thought she was always wearing gloves.

sumerfish

I remember this book very clearly but I canNOT find it, probably because it was based on a bunch of common legends.

So a girl helps her mom out at an antique store, and a drifter type shows up one day. He asks for a glass of water but I think ends up working at the shop (?). He will pick up items in the shop and make up a story about them, and each chapter is a story. So there's a retelling of the Willow Pattern story, and a story about a locked Indian box, and so on. But then it turns out that he's not making the stories up, they are REAL, and it's all very mysterious who this drifter is (ie, the story of the locked box is that it contains a coil of human hair that a English colonial girl made her Indian national servant cut off so the English girl could be prettier, and then the Indian girl puts a cobra in the box, and it bites the English girl and she dies. The box is locked when the drifter tells the story, and it gets unlocked afterwards, and inside is...a coil of hair and a cobra skeleton!!!)

Please someone have read this. I'm convinced I'm making it up at this point.

Lu2
Lu2

@sumerfish I hope someone comes up with it, because I want to read it! :D

Banana Stand Money

@sumerfish Pack of Lies by Geraldine McCaughrean.

My brother got me to read this book but made me not read the back cover because it was too spoilery.

And, I totally remember the story about the umbrella stand that was bought by an angry bald man.

sumerfish

@Banana Stand Money Ahhh! Ordered! Thank you! I borrowed it from a teacher, read it, and gave it back and promptly forgot all identifying information. I'm so glad someone else read it!

Banana Stand Money

@sumerfish I'm just glad I could remember the combination of things to google it correctly. Yay!

Cawendaw

A race of aliens (who are basically humans, but from space) fled their world in a huge spaceship and now wanders the galaxy homeless. For some reason, they show up on Earth in the middle ages and stop the execution of an Italian prince who was executed in actual history. Then they get involved in Earth medieval politics, and at first people think they're angels. And at one point some of them zap a bunch of earth peasants with paralyzing rays, so others have to masquerade as healing angels and zap them with de-paralyzing rays. The protagonist is name Natheless Yi-Induri, and she's the sort-of princess of the aliens who's engaged to the sort-of prince, but then he sleeps with earth girl and they break up and she sort of flirts with the Italian prince they saved, and the book ends but there's a sequel which I never found because I have no idea what the book is.

darklingplain

@Cawendaw I think this is The Coming of the Demons by Gwenyth Hood.

Cawendaw

@darklingplain Yes! I recognize the cover! Thank you thank you thank you! And it looks like she never wrote anything else, but at least now I know.

KatieBarTheDoor

I have two:

1. A white boy moves into a poor-ish non-white neighborhood, and he's not phased by it at all, even though the other kids are sort of weirded out. And he takes a bite off of a candy bar right after another boy bit it, which is a really big deal. And he wears sneakers, and unties a knot? To win pizza or something?

2. This one was awful-- this girl gets involved with (kidnapped by?) some kind of cult, and they perform this ritual where they lay her on the ground and slice a cat open over her stomach. Sorry, it's terrible, and I'm still creeped out by that image.

yeah-elle

@KatieBarTheDoor 1 is DEFINITELY Maniac Magee, which will make you cry but is a beautiful book.

Nicole Cliffe

I think I read the first one, but no names...

KatieBarTheDoor

@KatieBarTheDoor Ooh, one more: these kids (brother and sister?) find this, like, magical swan kingdom? And they ride around on the swans, but it turns out something is wrong with the swans and they're all dying. (Oddly, I distinctly remember this being the book in which I learned the word "atrophy," as it talked about atrophying swans.)

KatieBarTheDoor

@yeah-elle Yessss, thank you! I need to read that again.

annestofannes

@KatieBarTheDoor Maniac, Maniac, he's so cool, Maniac, Maniac, don't go to school. Runs all night, runs all right, Maniac, Maniac, kissed a bull!

Nicole Cliffe

@yeah-elle YES, it is Maniac Magee. I can't believe the title didn't come to me, because that book was unbelievably important in my life.

Lisa Frank

@KatieBarTheDoor Is the first one Maniac Magee?

ETA: That was fast!

Briony Fields

@KatieBarTheDoor Maniac Magee!!! I remember that because Elijah Wood was supposed to star in the movie adaption (or so I read in Disney Adventures) so I read it because 11 year old me was d e a d in love with him. The film never got made, by the way.

honey cowl

@KatieBarTheDoor Maniac!!!! I loved that book.

miss lonelyhearts

@KatieBarTheDoor Is the second one Ghost Girl: The True Story of a Child in Peril and the Teacher Who Saved Her? http://www.amazon.com/Ghost-Girl-Story-Child-Teacher/dp/038071681X

Lu2
Lu2

OMG, thank you for this opportunity. I posted about this on another thread here sometime last year and got a few nibbles, and we were all saying, "There should be a thread about lost books!"

So, OK, here goes again. It's a YA novel about a group of friends (girls) in high school. They seemed really sophisticated to me, and almost 1950s, because some of them sneak out to this nightclub that seems old-fashioned and gives the women gardenias with their drinks. One of them has the dream of going to Bryn Mawr College. Another one is a girl who seems plain but another of the friends opines something like, "When word gets out about you, the boys will be lining up to date you." She meant it in a very good way--like, "your charms may be a little hidden right now, but you're going to come into your own and then Katie bar the door." Also, the book may have a longish title that is reminiscent of (but is NOT) Judy Blume's "Starring Sally J. Freedman as Herself."

p.s. Holy moley, someone with the screen name "Katie Bar the Door" just posted above me! :D

KatieBarTheDoor

@Lu2 Hah, I definitely just did a double take! Props for using that in a sentence. :-)

laurel

@Lu2 I think you and I discussed this on that last thread, but this is one of my lost books too. One of them spends a whole day looking for a charm in the shape of Pennsylvania with a gem in the location of Bryn Mawr to give to the girl who wanted to go there.

Lu2
Lu2

@laurel Yes! I remember that you remembered that. :) And it kind of rings a bell with me, too. Unfortunately, my library card account is "on hold" because I have to renew it (? Every frickin' year?), and so I can't use online services like NoveList (see my post below).

Lu2
Lu2

@laurel You know, the description doesn't exactly match with what I remember, but how could it NOT be the same book? I mean, Bryn Mawr, the word "Starring" in the title ... It's gotta be, right? :D THANK YOU SO MUCH! How did you find it?

Lu2
Lu2

@Lu2 Oh! Laurel! I just found this interesting essay:
http://idiommag.com/2011/06/teenagers-in-love/

It's by a lesbian, about her and her sister's different memories of the book. Like her sister, I (a non-lesbian) don't remember any "gay" overtones to Alice's feelings for Wendy, the one who wants to go to Bryn Mawr. I do remember that there were a lot of books and movies about girls' special friendships and intense feelings, and it didn't seem like anything sexual or remarkable, but I can see how looking at such relationships--as portrayed in books and film--from that frame of reference could make one feel that that's what was really going on.

laurel

@Lu2 I definitely remember the younger girl crushing on the older girl and that she felt self-conscious about it.

Did you remember any of the Katherine Hepburn stuff? I totally didn't. At this point, I'm certain I read TNMaMSM but I'm not absolutely positive it's the one I'm thinking of.

The name just popped into my head, maybe prompted by you mentioning "Starring Sally J...."

Lu2
Lu2

@laurel No, I didn't remember the Katie stuff! But look what I just found, HIDING IN PLAIN SIGHT:
http://thehairpin.com/2011/06/the-shortcomings-of-teen-lesbian-literature/

It's our book, and it's a link to the essay I just linked you to! :D Right here on the freakin' Hairpin, by Edith. OH THE IRONY

laurel

@Lu2 Holy moly. It was right under our noses.

annestofannes

This is a YA book my grandma gave me from loooong ago. High school girl moves to a new town with her family, falls for wrong guy, something about a failed birthday party, mother is a recovering alcoholic, the right boy makes her a birdhouse at the end of the novel? Someone help!

maryofmarylandia

@annestofannes

Hmm...yellow cover, family moves from NYC to small town to get away from mom's drinking past, girl is always worried her mom's going to backslide? Title is Jean? Jeanne? Maybe?

maryofmarylandia

@annestofannes

i was thinking of jennifer (http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/10218207-jennifer).

annestofannes

@maryofmarylandia This is it!! Thankyouthankyouthankyou

cupcakecore@twitter

From fifth grade (so about 18 years ago) reading presentations: I presented a book of fantasy short stories. One of the stories was about the tooth fairy stealing a dream because it was the only colorful thing in her cold, toothy domain. The other story I remember had backwards blue people with backwards blue feet who threaten to spit on someone. It was wonderful and funny. The book went missing from the classroom shortly after that and I never remembered the title.

Also this thread is AWESOME and I'm gonna go through it for random reading recommendations!

Kristen

@cupcakecore@twitter Was it "The Last Slice of Rainbow and Other Stories," by Joan Aiken?

http://www.fishpond.com.au/Books/Last-Slice-of-Rainbow-and-Other-Stories-Joan-Aiken/9780140323016

I'm so glad you reminded me of this!

cupcakecore@twitter

@Kristen OH MY GLOB I THINK IT IS!!!! THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! I've been trying to find this book for years!!!

Her???

I have one I have been trying to figure out for months - I thought it was Cashelmara, but recently re-read and it is not. I don't *think* it's Rebecca, but what I remember sounds similar.
There is a governess? Of maybe 2 children, living in Ireland or Scotland, maybe. And the father is a creepy, older, angry man? And then she marries him, I think, and then the big old house they live in is haunted? Maybe by the mother of the children....Arrggh, it is driving me up the wall trying to remember it, and I've googled to no avail. I read it when I was 13 or 14, but I feel like it was an adult book. Help?

SarahP

@luckylulu Could it be you're misremembering parts of The Turn of the Screw?

Her???

@SarahP That one came up in my google search (basically ALL that I could come up with) and that's not it :(

Little Miss Bossy

@luckylulu This thread COMPELLED me to finally create a HairPin account. Is it possible that you are remembering (the fantastic) "Bride of Tancred" (http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/4819379-bride-of-tancred) by Diane Pearson. It definitely has a "Jane Eyre"/"Turn of the Screw" vibe (Quaker girl who is shunned by most of her immediate family since her mother married outside the community; her grandfather is her only ally; leaves to work as a governess to a CREEPY KID in a CREEPY HOUSE with a CREEPY GUY named Matthew (seriously, he's awful); the mother of the house is constantly weaving a weird pattern on an old loom and tries to set her adult son up with a plain widow but of course things go terribly and Miriam (the protagonist) eventually ends up with him instead??? Seriously, I love this book as well as Pearson's "The Summer of the Barshinskeys"

Her???

@Little Miss Bossy ahhhhhh....maybe? The title doesn't ring any bells, but the cover art and the name "Miriam" kind of does?!? I will have to ask my Mom if she remembers this, as I'm sure it was a book of hers. In any case, it's on my wish list! thanks!

ironhoneybee

@luckylulu Does it have anything to do with Macbeth?

Just Max

Oh, fuck me. I was all excited to try and help people figure out their books, but now I'm just agonizing over a book I didn't even know I'd forgotten.

Okay, @luckylulu, I think I read this, too, but I'm not sure I have any details to add, UNLESS this is the same book where the governess has some sort of magical connection with the forests--here are, like, these wild, magical forests--and she's related to them, in some way? OH, was she a tree turned human, or something? This is miserable.

Little Miss Bossy

@luckylulu I think it's also known as the "Loom of Tancred." Spoiler/memory jog: The super creepy kid, who is a product of later-revealed incest (!!), dies toward the end and tries to drag Miriam with her down the cliff-face. Also featured, an insane wife (in memory), a really cruel father-figure (whose memory/actions "haunt" the manor), his disfigured adult son (who accidentally married his half-sister), a creepy hall of portraits, "town" Quakers who wear green (gasp) and purple dresses instead of only black, etc., etc., etc. I will now probably re-read this for the sixth or more time.

Apocalypstick

@Just Max A governess being connected to magical forests sounds like The Magicians And Mrs Quent, but that's quite recent.

Her???

@ALL - I posted this on the goodreads "what's the name of that book" and got my answer! It is "The Mistress of Mellyn" http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/211953.Mistress_of_Mellyn
I'll have to re-read, but it sounds like it may not hold up. Thanks so much to everyone!

SarahP

There's a book where an older (teenage) sister feels neglected because everyone loves her younger sister more. Her mother said that Older Sister was a gift, but because she had Little Sister at a late age, calls her "a miracle." So there's a scene where Older Sister asks her teacher "What's better, a gift or a miracle?" and the teacher says "A miracle, of course."

I don't remember anything else about the book except that it was a vague (and boring) coming of age book, but that line really stuck with me.

themegnapkin

@SarahP I've read this book. . . I think it's a Mary Higgins Clark book? I think that happened in "All Around the Town," which is a thriller involving multiple personality disorder.

yunkstahn

@SarahP "Jacob I Have Loved." This one made me SO ANGRY; the older sister completely got the shaft, all the way to the end.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Have_I_Loved

SarahP

@themegnapkin Hm, I did go through a Mary Higgins Clark phase, but I didn't remember this book as being thrilling at all. Of course, I don't remember anything else about the book, so I could have just read something boring before/after it and be confusing them.

anachronistique

@yunkstahn I don't think it's Jacob Have I Loved; those girls are twins, and Louise is only older by a few minutes. (File under "books that turn me into a sobbing wreck every time.")

shortskirtlongjacket

@SarahP OMG All Around the Town! Laurie gets kidnapped by Bic & Opal and, to cope with the abuse they visit upon her, she develops multiple personalities. She somehow escapes / makes it back home, but the police can't find the kidnappers until they get a tip by a woman who loves televangelism. And then I think at the end they found out that Laurie committed a murder but it was one of her other personalities. Holy shit did I love that book.

temporal_paradox

@SarahP Might it be Black Rainbow by Barbara Michaels? It's been a decade or two since I've read it, but that's the one that's pricking my book plot memory.

Miss Kitty Fantastico

ok, this was the book that cemented my love of cheesy supernatural things (there are so many books I read as a kid that I wish I could remember the name of!) There is a girl who moves into a new house with her mom (possible divorce or death of her father or something) and she starts going back in time, maybe? She makes friends in the past witha girl (or girls) and I think one of them dies of consumption?

HeyThatsMyBike

@Madeline Shoes I want this to be Wait Til Helen comes, because I'm just waiting for that to show up here, but it's not. Wait Til Helen comes has fires, not consumption.

yunkstahn

@Madeline Shoes The Ghost in the Garden? I can't find a good synopsis online, alas. http://www.amazon.com/Ghost-garden-Carol-H-Behrman/dp/B0007199TA

recessionsalone

@Madeline Shoes The Doll in the Garden!

Lexa Lane

@Madeline Shoes Oooh! Oooh! The Doll in the Garden? (@HeyThatsMyBike same author as Wait Til Helen Comes, Mary Downing Hahn. That book scared the *shit* out of me.)

HeyThatsMyBike

@Lexa Lane So we can conclude that Hahn was obsessed with girls making friends with the ghosts of dead girls and then killing them off, right?

Steph

@HeyThatsMyBike I have also been waiting for Wait Til Helen Comes. I remember that book so incredibly vividely.

Miss Kitty Fantastico

@yunkstahn YES GHOST IN THE GARDEN. Geeze, I googled it and found a wikipedia page (of all things) and I forgot that there is a white cat that's central to the plot. This is the book that made me want a white cat SO BAD that my parents adopted me a mostly white kitten, who still lives with me and is 17. Crazy.

kate.a.willia

@HeyThatsMyBike Wait! Does Wait Til Helen Comes have a scene where Helen makes Heather dance naked in the rain or something? And maybe her mom or someone sees and thinks Heather is going nuts? If so, I've been reading all of these comments to see if anyone mentioned that book and you've saved me!

OhMarie

@HeyThatsMyBike OMG I remember this book so vividly all of a sudden!

silent_trystera

This is a long shot, but...young adult book where the protagonist is a girl. Maybe she lives on an island, maybe not. At the climax of the book, for reasons I forget, she and a male friend are being chased (in the rain?) and the boy gets sucked into quicksand or a sink hole or something and dies. Maybe he does on purpose, because he is an outlaw/outsider (related to reason why they are being chased).

The correct term is babes, sir

Oh, I have 2:
1. It was a children's picture book. The main character's best friend is named Peter, who gets run over by a car, and the story is about dealing with grief as a young child. Terribly sad and depressing.
2. It was a YA novel. The neighborhood is currently experiencing a rash of unsolved child kidnappings and everyone is living on edge. The main character is totally into Egyptology and starts a club based on that interest. Kind of depressing (I'm seeing a theme...).

C_Webb

@The correct term is babes, sir #2 is The Egypt Game! We were talking about that above -- Zilpha Keatly Snyder!

yeah-elle

@The correct term is babes, sir Is #2 The Egypt Game? Edit: Ahh, beat to it!

PS though #1 is I Had a Friend Named Peter.

yunkstahn

@The correct term is babes, sir

The second one is The Egypt Game by Zilpha Keatley Snyder. Great stuff!

melmuu

@The correct term is babes, sir I don't think this is the one you're referring to, but Elisabeeth Kubler Ross wrote a book about a young girl whose best friend, a boy, dies, (or maybe it was the girl who died?), but before that, angels come visit and whisk them around outside of their bodies. The illustrations were so beautiful, and the book was eerie and sad.

yeah-elle

@The correct term is babes, sir I did a quick google and the author of I Had a Friend Named Peter is Janice Cohn, but it's out of print. But it's definitely that book. I remember he chased a ball out into the street. It's a good book to teach children about death, so I'm sad it's out of print.

The correct term is babes, sir

@yeah-elle, @melmuu @yunkstahn @C_Webb: THANK YOU!! This is a great post. There's a hairpin book club, right? This would be an awesome theme - re-reading lost books of our childhood/adolescence and reflecting on how they affecting us. (Or is this exactly what the hairpin bookclub does already?)

allofthewine

@yeah-elle Can I piggyback on this book? I remember another book about a child dying--possibly by being hit by a car-- and the cover had a sidewalk? The title was possibly " (Name) was here"?

allofthewine

@allofthewine It was Mick Harte Was Here! (http://www.amazon.com/Mick-Harte-Here-Barbara-Park/dp/0679882030 original cover is what I was remembering)

yeah-elle

@allofthewine Mick Harte Was Here.

Ughhh I realize I sound totally morbid by knowing all of these but I used to work at a children's bookstore and we had a really carefully cultivated section of books for children about "difficult topics"—death, dementia, illness, divorce, even stuff like losing teeth and potty training. Most of the employees read through the entire section, so that when parents came in, we could recommend the ones that best fit their situation.

ironhoneybee

YOU GUYS. Get ready to lose the rest of your day:

http://www.loganberrybooks.com/nostalgia.html

ironhoneybee

@ironhoneybee Seriously. That website just solved the biggest lost book mystery of my childhood in 3 seconds. Gruesome Green Witch FTW!

Lu2
Lu2

@ironhoneybee

Also! My public library subscribes to an online search database called NoveList that helps you find books you're looking for using keywords. Example--last year I read a great novel whose title I couldn't remember for the life of me. All I knew was that it began on New Year's Eve in NYC in the 1930s. I put those keywords in, and the first result was The Rules of Civility, by Amor Towles. BINGO.

But anyway, you can't just use NoveList online; I think you have to log into the library system. So if you've got a library card, check your local PL system and try it!

oboe-d-amore

@ironhoneybee I looked there, and omg The Mushroom Planet! I used to love that book and had completely forgotten it!

ironhoneybee

@ironhoneybee Maybe don't spend as much time on that site as I initially recommended; I just spent $75 buying up copies of everything I rediscovered on there, much of which is no longer in print.

savemethewaltz

@Lu2 Thank you so much for this! I was scrolling through this thread to see if the book I had in mind (the name of which has been frustratingly eluding me for yeeeears) would be mentioned, then I tried NoveList and BAM! it was the first thing that popped up in response to my keywords. HURRAY and thanks!

Lu2
Lu2

@savemethewaltz Oh my gosh, you're so welcome! I'm really glad it helped you! It's like a miracle... or like a librarian-in-a-box. (I was flabbergasted by a librarian I met once when she could immediately tell my which book I was talking about with just a few key words; granted, it was "On Beauty," by Zadie Smith, so, not obscure, but it was an impressive feat nevertheless.)

Genghis Khat

Oh man, I remember in the great mom swap how in that one girl's book the heroine's eyelashes are tangled together with spider legs. I think about that image every single time I put on mascara and it's such stupid writing.

SarahP

Oh! oh! This is one of those 80s (70s?!) YA books with people with feathered hair and high-waisted jeans on the cover.

A girl falls for a boy who's a year younger (gasp!), and they navigate their relationship while her parents are in the middle of a messy divorce (I think) and her older sister has left to cohabit (!) with some guy. I read it like ten times and learned the word "atone" from it.

EmilyStarr

@SarahP Can You Sue Your Parents for Malpractice? by Paula Danziger!

SarahP

@EmilyStarr YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS **hurries to Amazon to get a copy**

Nicole Cliffe

Did you guys read the Bruno and Boots books, or was that too Canadian? I wrote him a fan letter once I was in college, and he wrote back and was as wonderful as I had hoped.

Ellie

@Nicole Cliffe I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE, LOVE the Bruno and Boots books. Loved. Loved, loved. They were all out of print by the time I started reading them as a kid, and I used to check them out of the library all the time, but they started disappearing as the library copies slowly fell apart. (And I'm American, so, probably not!)

Nicole Cliffe

Have you read his others? There's an amazing one about two kids at camp, and one is totally bent on escape and the other one has to go along, and they always get caught.

Homestar Runner

@Nicole Cliffe I WANT TO GO HOME: BEST BOOK OF ALL TIME

I never went to summer camp and this book made me so intensely jealous.

Ellie

@Nicole Cliffe I don't think so. I definitely read all the Macdonald Hall books and a lot of his standalone books but not that one! That sounds pretty great though.

Nicole Cliffe

@Ellie brb, ordering all of them for my 16 mo old baby.

The correct term is babes, sir

@Ellie Yes, Bruno and Boots! I read all of those, and I'm from the US too. The Line of Scrimmage! Some sort of plot involving fried zucchinis! I really loved those.

Quinn A@twitter

@Nicole Cliffe Many, many times. I actually reread The War With Mr. Wizzle and Macdonald Hall Goes Hollywood just this year because my mom wanted me to take home any of my childhood books that I didn't want her to give away. I'm 28. I don't care.

Nicole Cliffe

No shame. I was reading "The Story Girl" this morning.

Interrobanged

@Nicole Cliffe I read SO MANY Gordon Korman books, plus I think he wrote the first MacDonald Hall book when he was like 12 or something?

Mr Wizzle and the headmistress of the girls' school!

Man, and there was also this book about this boy who was basically a baby con artist and made a bunch of $ by selling jars of grape jelly as pets. The Son of the Mob books are also totally charming.

Canard

@Nicole Cliffe AHHHHH Gordon Korman. My family still regularly quotes the scoreboard from The Zucchini Warriors. I would also like to put in a plug for Who Is Bugs Potter?

This might be relevant to the interests of people in this thread: http://www.yuletidetreasure.org/archive/42/macdonaldhall.html

Andrea K@twitter

@Interrobanged No Coins Please! I loved that one, though third or fourth-ing I Want to Go Home as THE BEST.

Also: Son of Interflux, anyone? The model for all my stupid civil disobedience campaigns in high school. AND CAMELS.

darklingplain

@Nicole Cliffe Those were so great! And his other books, too--Son of Interflux, and The Twinkie Squad.

selyse

I've been wondering about this one for 30 years (god, I am old). My childhood friend had it - it was a gorgeous book about a golden rabbit and there were clues hidden in the illustrations (kind of renaissance-y/illuminated manuscript looking) to an actual golden rabbit that was supposedly buried somewhere, so you had to figure out the treasure hunt, too. Anyone?!? I've searched on and off for years but nothing really comes up.

SarahP

@selyse Masquerade?

TiggerHalsey

@selyse I remember something similar - there was a golden bee, maybe, with ruby eyes, that the book's author had actually crafted and buried somewhere in the world. The book was a giant riddle, and the idea was that, if you figured it out, you could determine the coordinates and dig for the buried treasure. This has to be the same book, right?

silverscreen

@TiggerHalsey
Definitely Kit Williams. Masquerade was the hare book, and the bee book was untitled - it's usually called The Book without a Name (c.f. here). I was really obsessed with it as a kid!

TiggerHalsey

@keaton Astonishing. Thank you!

selyse

@keaton OH MY GOD. THANK YOU SO MUCH!!

selyse

@SarahP That is it! This is the most amazing thread. Thank you!!

Nicole Cliffe

Please, someone remember this one. It's a world in which people live on spread-out islands, and a very few people have these wings, built years before, and can fly between islands, but when a set of wings is destroyed, they can never be remade. Female heroine.

recessionsalone

@Nicole Cliffe And this book had a lot of Icarus-ish call outs too, right? Lots of talk about repairing wings with wax and such?

Nicole Cliffe

@recessionsalone Yes!

recessionsalone

@Nicole Cliffe I remember reading this book when I went through my "read every retelling of Greek, Roman, Egyptian and Arthurian legend from a woman's perspective" phase post-Mists of Avalon and Mara, Daughter of the Nile. It is driving me crazy I can't remember the title!

Erin Sturm@twitter

@Nicole Cliffe- Is it Windhaven by George R R Martin?
http://www.amazon.com/Windhaven-George-R-R-Martin/dp/0345535499

Nicole Cliffe

IT IS!!!! Thank you!

SarahP

I JUST WANT TO LIVE IN THIS THREAD FOREVER

Nicole Cliffe

@SarahP Yeah, I love everyone right now, to be honest.

Dandyliongirl

@SarahP I've come late to the party and my evening is 100% better for being able to read through all these comments!

Nicole Cliffe

ONE MORE. Spaceship civilization, teens are put on a planet to live alone for awhile as a coming-of-age thing, girl is on planet with teen boy, they have really nice, sweet sex with each other. It was totally beautiful and feminist.

TheBelleWitch

@Nicole Cliffe This sounds strikingly similar to Enchantress From the Stars, but that one was about a humanoid alien teen girl hanging out on Earth in medieval Europe and falling in love with some farmer boy, so probably not.

katiemcgillicuddy

@Nicole Cliffe Tunnel in the Sky?

Nicole Cliffe

No, but a very good guess!

katiemcgillicuddy

@TheBelleWitch I think someone was looking for that book upthread!

Lucienne

@Nicole Cliffe I don't remember Moon-Flash that well, but it sounds sort of similar.

Nicole Cliffe

I like McKillip, but nope :(

Maryaed

@Nicole Cliffe Rite of Passage which I am always telling everyone to read, but it's out of print.

Nicole Cliffe

Thank you thank you thank you!!!! That's it! BUYING.

Nicole Cliffe

AND it's back in print!

angryocean

I actually registered for an account just for this after haunting this place for so long. Here's my long-lost book: All I remember is that there's a girl, and she's in the hospital during the summer, and I think there are a lot of bees outside her hospital window - and somehow she makes friends with the bees, and she gets to go into the beehive (through magic?) and there's some kind of parallels between her sickness and something wrong in the beehive? I don't remember how it ends at all. She might die (or go live with the bees, which is the same thing I guess).

HeyThatsMyBike

@angryocean No idea what your book is, but welcome!

Erin Sturm@twitter

@angryocean Is it Ned Kelly and the City of Bees by Thomas Keneally?
http://www.amazon.com/Kelly-City-Bees-Thomas-Keneally/dp/1567920225

SlightlyOverboard

@angryocean Could the bees have been ants? Because then it might be Sarah's Nest by Harry Gilbert. Beautiful and poignant, they raise a wall to keep an anthill in the shade but it turns out the ants are freezing to death. And she goes into a coma (dies? not sure) but she's the queen ant while in the coma.

Elsajeni

The main character is a little girl -- really pretty young, I think -- who is the daughter of a scientist; they're living at some kind of research station in the jungle (possibly the Amazon?), but they are not from there. The girl either gets lost or runs off on purpose and has to survive in the jungle for a while. The actual details I remember:
1. There are some red-and-black insects that are some kind of plot point.
2. While she's surviving in the woods, she gets a cut or bite or something on her leg that gets infected, and somehow she knows by instinct to lance it with a thorn she breaks off a tree, and it is super gross.

(I actually have dozens of these but of course I can't think of any of them now that the opportunity arises.)

professionalmess

@Elsajeni Oh, I read this one I think, but I don't know either!

laurel

Young girl in rural South (maybe), very poor and an orphan (maybe). A rich woman takes an interest in her and invites her to the theater (not sure if it's a movie or a play) and she pulls together something to wear including a giant floppy hat but doesn't have any shoes. So sad!

Elsajeni

@laurel I feel like this happened in one of the Blossom Culp books? She did have a rich patron of some kind. But if it was one of those you would probably also remember some ghostly stuff happening, so never mind.

laurel

@Elsajeni While I don't remember any ghosts, who knows. I mostly remember the feeling of this book rather than any useful plot points that would help in searching.

laurel

@laurel But no, the one I'm looking for is older than those.

stonefruit

@laurel OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH, is it Jenny, Sam, and the Invisible Hildegarde?

laurel

@stonefruit Oh, I don't know! I'm looking for a review of it online. Maybe I'll go see if the library has a copy.

stonefruit

@laurel Other plot-points from JSIH:
- Jenny lives with her aunt Linda (I think that was her name), who is a dressmaker, and her two cousins (a girl and a boy named, I believe, Henry and Cora Belle). I want to say it takes place in Florida.
- Sam is the dog. He is injured and we find out about halfway through how he got injured.
- There is also a mysterious, wealthy man with a huge mansion and a greenhouse that Jenny wants to sneak into.

Ellie

I never forgot the title of these, but two books I loved but have never heard anyone talk about are The Queen's Nose (Dick King-Smith) and The Girl With The Silver Eyes (Willo Davis Roberts).
Except apparently the first one isn't very obscure at all because it was made into a TV series.

The Girl With The Silver Eyes is one of those awesome books where the main character is weird but then meets other people like herself. Being weird myself I really liked it.

D.@twitter

@Ellie I read "The Girl With the Silver Eyes" /multiple/ times. Just loved it! Spent a lot of time wishing I had eyes that were some color other than brown. Also wished MY mother had taken experimental drugs while she was pregnant w/ me, or something similarly cool.

Nicole Cliffe

Totally. Even after my mother was like, "uh, you know about Thalidomide and DES, right?"

TheBelleWitch

@Ellie The Girl With Silver Eyes was one of these lost books for me for ages! I finally Googled around a year or so ago to rediscover the title. She's able to move things with her mind, right?

ironhoneybee

@D.@twitter Girl with the Silver Eyes was amazing. I spent a really long summer focusing on developing paranormal powers by trying to mind-talk to my cat after reading that, even though my eyes were just an average brown.

teaandcakeordeath

@Ellie
The Queens Nose! I'd completely forgotton about that. There was a coin and when you rubbed her nose ... something ... happened and it led to adventures.
It was great!

themegnapkin

@ironhoneybee There was one kind of similar, these kids found a rock or a piece of metal that did things for them? One kid asked for $20, and a $20 bill materialized for him, and it turned out that that $0.0001 or something had been sucked out of every bank account at the local bank to pay for the $20. And another kid wanted to fly, but doing so sucked energy out of the power lines and caused an outage, I think? I guess it's not that similar to the Girl with the Silver Eyes, but I read them at about the same time and really wanted special powers.

karenb

@Ellie i read every single book i could get my hands on that involved normal people getting superpowers, or had kids who were weird, but that weirdness meant they could do cool stuff. so yes, for sure, to Girl With Silver Eyes, awesome.

lucy snowe

@Ellie I spent one summer just reading "The Girl With The Silver Eyes." As soon as I finished the last paragraph, I'd start over. I can't think of another book I responded to in quite that way.

A much happier story about drugs and pregnancy than "Geek Love"-- which was excellent, but I've only been able to read the once.

Ellie

@lucy snowe Though I've probably done this with other books, the last book I can remember that I literally flipped back to the beginning the second I finished it was "My Heartbeat" by Garrett Freymann-Weyr (which I read for the first time when I was maybe 20 or 21, and is one of my favorite books of all time).

missupright

@Ellie The Queen's Nose! The TV show was not even nearly so good, and it cut out all the nice and funny things and literally nobody I knew who watched the TV show noticed that their names were Melody and Harmony and that that was funny or a joke. Assuming that that's the book you're talking about. Dick King-Smith is so brilliant. (I swear that half the reason my boyfriend and I are together is because the one of our first conversations was us both shrieking about The Mouse Butcher).

paper bag princess

@Ellie I LOVED The Girl With the Silver Eyes. I thought being able to turn off the light switch from bed when I was done reading was the only power I ever wanted. I tried for months to be telekinetic.

lucy snowe

@Ellie That's going on my list!

lasso tabasco

This probably hella obscure but here goes:

It's a 19th century book, set in nothern England. There are two sisters who live with their mother who I think is a dressmaker? They both help run the shop. One sister is seduced by a ladies man and runs off with him, disgracing herself. He leaves her, and she ends up moving to Paris alone and running a rather fancy boardinghouse of some kind. The other sister marries a not very handsome or exciting but stable and kind doctor and they stay in this town forever and are highly respected. The sisters never see eachother again until the one's husband dies and (I think) she goes to live with her sister in Paris.

This has been driving me crazy for YEARS. I read it in high school, checked it out from the library there.

aduncetothemusicoftime

@lasso tabasco The Old Wives' Tale by Arnold Bennett. Reread it--it's unexpectedly funny!

lasso tabasco

@aduncetothemusicoftime OH MY GODDDDDDDDDDDDDD!!!!!!!! You. I owe you everything. Thank you thank you thank you!!!!

aduncetothemusicoftime

@lasso tabasco You'd do the same for me.

highfivesforall

Ooh, I have one: there is a family of people who are actually stuffed dolls, but real-person sized, and they can't go out in public except when it's dark or they're disguised so that they don't get found out, except that they still have to buy things from the store, and maybe the dad/grandfather doll is/was a night watchman? Maybe he loses his job, and they are having a hard time with finances? They don't have to sleep, but they do put themselves away in cupboards? This is all very hazy. At one point someone wears a lampshade on their head as a disguise.

oboe-d-amore

@highfivesforall This is The Mennyms!

HeyThatsMyBike

@highfivesforall Somebody talks about this one above - do a ctrl+f for Madeline Shoes comment and hop on that thread in case anybody solves the mystery!

highfivesforall

@oboe-d-amore Whoa, thank you! I see that someone else asked about this upthread, I guess I missed that.

melmuu

A girl, probably in middle school, has to go live with her aunt and uncle for the summer, and there is a dollhouse at their house, and strange things start happening, and then it turns out the dollhouse people are real people, stuck in there?

Homestar Runner

@melmuu The Dollhouse Murders by Betty Ren Wright? I think the dolls were more like ghosts, though, if that makes sense.

The correct term is babes, sir

@melmuu Oh I read this one! But I can't think of the name (sorry I'm no help).

melmuu

@Homestar Runner YES! Thank you. And thinking of that reminded me of Behind the Attic Wall, which I love love love.

kris

@melmuu: oOuld it be The Borrowers ?

TheBelleWitch

Ok, story about two Civil War ghosts, but friendly ghosts. One is a soldier and the other is an antebellum woman who died trying to pose romantically against a railing on a riverboat, but the railing wasn't there and she fell in and drowned. The first clue to her existence were mysterious rings on the floor caused by her sodden hoop skirt dripping water. A kid or a couple of kids helps the ghosts find peace or whatever, I don't know, the hoop skirt made the biggest impression.

Nicole Cliffe

My only Civil War ghost-y book was "The Root Cellar," which was incredible.

TheBelleWitch

@Nicole Cliffe I never read that, but I just looked it up on Amazon and it sounds pretty great!

mbmargarita

@TheBelleWitch ARgh it's on my childhood bookshelf at home and I can picture the cover so clearly but WHAT is it called!

TheBelleWitch

@mbmargarita Haha, CALL YOUR PARENTS IMMEDIATELY, WE MUST KNOW

parthenope

@TheBelleWitch This is not helpful, but -- I totally read this!! I think the soldier had been beheaded, possibly while trying to signal a truce with a white flag (making his death as senseless-but-funny as the missing-railing death).

BoatGirl

@TheBelleWitch Could this possibly be The Ghost Belonged to Me by Richard Peck? I think I remember wet rings from a hoop skirt of the ghost who died on a riverboat, although I don't remember a soldier ghost.

parthenope

@TheBelleWitch I think I have it! Is it _Who Knew There'd Be Ghosts?_ This definitely has both a dripping-skirted lady ghost and a beheaded soldier gentleman ghost. From the Amazon description of the sequel: "Horace, who was beheaded during the American Revolution, and Essie, who drowned in a riverboat accident in the 1800s, live in an old house, now turned museum..."

@BoatGirl Thanks for the suggestion - that's ANOTHER book I remember vaguely & fondly. Apparently I had a thing for books featuring drowned hoop-skirt-wearing ghosts.

TheBelleWitch

@parthenope OK I do not get email updates so I didn't see this until I wandered back to this thread in a cold-induced haze just now. YES, it is totally Who Knew There'd Be Ghosts? Amazing. I don't know if you'll ever see this comment, but thank you.

Also, the single Amazon review of the paperback is priceless: "the reason why I liked this book was because it was short. it was about 159 pages long. igot a good ar grade by reading the first 4 chapters and then the last chapter. i hope its good for you too."

parthenope

@TheBelleWitch Oh yay!!! I just checked in to see if mine's been answered (alas no) & was thrilled to see you got this.

oboe-d-amore

Okay, this is a little kids picture book, that I actually found once and then RELOST, so this time I'm serious. :-)

It's a British book, with old-fashioned, lavish, darkly colored pictures, about two siblings, a boy and a girl. I think it's a series, and one is about Christmas. The name of the book is maybe the kids' names?

Flora Poste

@oboe-d-amore Maybe the Alfie and Annie-Rose by Shirley Hughes?

oboe-d-amore

@Flora Poste No, but it is Lucy and Tom by Shirley Hughes. Thank you so much!!!

Cara@twitter

the last one - is that "a connecticut yankee in king arthur's court" by mark twain?! i remember they based the movie off of it with the kid from 'rookie of the year.' memories...

Nicole Cliffe

Nope, contemporary. Well, 1980s contemporary.

Steph

@Cara@twitter Yup a Kid in King Arthur's Court is where my mind went first. But that's a movie.

anachronistique

@Steph DID YOU KNOW that that movie has a very young Kate Winslet and Daniel Craig with one of the most terrible haircuts ever?

Steph

@anachronistique whoa! Time fo some IMDBing...

yunkstahn

OK, here's another.

Modern-day ('80s or '90s), maybe some time travel, definitely some magic/pagan/Wicca-ish stuff. Maybe set in England. Main character's name is Myfanwy. She's Welsh or of Welsh heritage and is dark with wild dark hair. She feels ugly/is made fun of for this. She might have a blonde, more popular sister. I don't remember the plot. It was called All Hallows Eve or something like that. Ring any bells?

Little Miss Bossy

@yunkstahn I'm pretty sure I know this one but the only title that comes to mind is "The Hunter's Moon" and internet searches don't seem to find it. And there's a big battle over some stolen cattle? I remember there being one or two main characters who go back to mythical Ireland or something.

yeah-elle

@yunkstahn I remember! Google tells me it's On All Hallow's Eve by Grace Chetwin. I remember she went by Meg instead of Myfanwy and I was like, whyyyyy?

yunkstahn

@yeah-elle YES! Thank you!!!! The cover is also memorable. http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51XxKBr122L._SL500_AA300_.jpg

alicke

@yunkstahn I READ THE HUNTER'S MOON! loved it so much. a canadian cousin and an irish one, gwen and gwenhyfar, and the irish one gets taken away by the fairies but she kind of wanted to and then they have to do this ridiculous fight against this monster that comes out of a lake and they lose and the king of the fairies turns human and both girls end up with boys.

alicke

@Little Miss Bossy ah i meant to reply about the hunters moon to you

Little Miss Bossy

@alicke I don't remember a lake monster but I remember the big cattle battle and the cousin aspect. And there is one fighting pair (maybe a brother & sister) who have a golden or otherwise fantastic chariot to drive around in. And the cousins end up returning to the real world but then meet up the reincarnated faeries or something? There might also be some strange flying around near the end, just before they return to real life. I must still have my copy somewhere ... !

TiggerHalsey

What is it about books with dolls that are possibly living? I'm remembering a girl who has to go live with her kooky aunts (or maybe mean aunts?), and she finds a man doll and a lady doll and maybe a baby doll and also a ceramic dog, and she can hear them talk, but her aunts naturally don't believe her. I remember it being sad.

SarahP

@TiggerHalsey Behind the Attic Wall? I forgot all about that book until your comment!

Briony Fields

@TiggerHalsey I was just going to post this! I loved and was horribly creeped out by that book at the same time.

Kristen

@Briony Fields OH MY GOD.

Lisa Frank

@TiggerHalsey Definitely Behind the Attic Wall! I loved this book as a kid!

TiggerHalsey

@SarahP YES. You all are awesome. I just went to Amazon and read an excerpt, and am creeped out all over again.

lucy snowe

@TiggerHalsey I loved that book too.

The girl sucked her hair when things weren't going well. She had to wear sad-looking galoshes.

TiggerHalsey

@lucy snowe So I grew up in Los Angeles, where cold- and wet-weather apparel weren't really a thing. (I was woefully unprepared for college in the Midwest.) Is it possible to have a good time while wearing galoshes, or are they (and their wearer) always sad-looking?

Bittersweet

@TiggerHalsey Speaking of humanoid things that come alive, does anyone remember a YA book from the 70s or 80s about a group of mannequins that were really runaway teenagers and come alive at night after the department store closes? The story is about a girl who discovers their secret and joins them for a while. Really creepy cover picture.

Little Miss Bossy

@Briony Fields That book seriously creeped me out (and the edition I read/owned?) had really weird looking googly-eyed dolls on the cover, seriously, something that you would find on a haunted doll listing on eBay. The author also wrote the far superior "Lucie Babbidge's House," which is all sorts of amazing (and also features dolls).

lucy snowe

@TiggerHalsey Actually, I got some shiny black galoshes for xmas last year, and they make me really happy! Ready for my Gene Kelly swinging-around-a-lightpole moment.

And now that I'm thinking of it-- did Ramona Quimby have a pair of red galoshes she really loved? I have that image in my mind.

So, yes, I think it's definitely possible!

temporal_paradox

@TiggerHalsey Totally forgot about that book. I think I hid it under my mattress because it scared me so much.

hopelesslylost

@Bittersweet Secrets of the Shopping Mall by Richard Peck! I remember that horrifying cover picture, and also that the super-cool runaway teens called everyone else "mouth-breathers."

Bittersweet

@hopelesslylost Yes! And now I've googled the cover and it will haunt my nightmares forever more. Oops.

themegnapkin

Not a children's book, but it's been driving me nuts. It's a French existential play about death. There's this wealthy, handsome, successful dude who goes to the hospital. And I think it's about how he can't buy or talk his way out of mortality? People keep going to the 9th floor (or 11th floor?), where they disappear. And when he first goes to the hospital, he's on the first floor, but gradually they move him up, floor by floor, telling him that the next floor up has something to cure him, but it never does.

[sic]

@themegnapkin That sounds like Sette piani, a short story by Dino Buzzati. It's been adapted for the stage by Albert Camus under the title Un cas intéressant.
It takes place in Italy in the '60s, the protagonist is a wealthy lawyer who visits a seven-floor hospital. The worst cases are on the first floor, and as patients die, the windows of their rooms close.
Does that ring a bell?

steenie

I have one, sorry.
**Let me preface that it is not Twilight, but that the advent of Twilight has certainly swamped out all internet searches of it.**
It is about a vampire boy who meets a girl... in a laundromat, I believe? At one point they have to pretend to be making out in a car to avoid police questioning. At the end an evil female vampire dies in bed when the 2 protagonists open these thick curtains on her windows, allowing dawn sunlight in and shriveling her up. And the boy vampire almost dies of sunlight exposure too. I remember that I picked it out from the YA section of the library because the cover was kind of freaky - like a big black shadowy male outline hovering over a girl's outline. I think the title was something about "dark" - like, "Wait Until Dark" or something like that.

Snowy Owl Love Killer

@steenie I think it's Companions of the Night by Vivian Vande Velde.

Steph

@steenie YESS Snowy Old Love Killer is right. I still have that book somewhere.

miss lonelyhearts

@steenie OH MY GOD. I remember that book so well--my mom checked it out from the library for me because she thought it looked like something I'd like, but I think I was a little young for it. The scene where they're making out against a wall was one of my formative sexual experiences, along with so many scenes from Robert Cormier books...

oboe-d-amore

Okay, I have another one which I think is a pretty long shot, but it's worth a try! Two girls who are sharing a room in the hospital, and one of them had broken her back (?), and they make up an elaborate story together, or maybe go into another world, or something like that. This is literally all I remember, except that I think it was pink.

ellochka

@oboe-d-amore OH MY GOD. And was there a nurse who was always coming in to chide Broken Back about "BMs"? If so, I remember that book, and it taught me the phrase "bowel movement."

chickencat

@oboe-d-amore Is it On the Third Ward by T. Degens? http://www.amazon.com/Third-Ward-T-Degens/dp/0060214295/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1360380252&sr=1-1&keywords=on+the+third+ward

oboe-d-amore

@chickencat I feel silly now, because I just googled "book two girls hospital", and it is Just Like Always by Elizabeth Ann Sachs. Third Ward sounds like another book I would have read during that time period, though!

Snowy Owl Love Killer

I read this book years ago that was about a young-ish boy and somehow he ends up in the desert and is friends with a manticore who is a total coward and hangs out with a griffin and sphinx, I think? It was sort of reminiscent of The Neverending Story. It had black and white drawings and an orange cover, if that helps. I've never been able to figure out the name/author.

Judith Slutler

@Snowy Owl Love Killer This sounds so weirdly familiar. I feel like it SHOULD be a Diana Wynne Jones book but it isn't.

Snowy Owl Love Killer

@Emmanuelle Cunt Yeah, it's not anything by Diana. I'm glad someone else might have heard of it! I think it was written by a guy and seemed old when I read it in the 90s, so I think it was published maybe in the 70s.

Lorelei@twitter

@Snowy Owl Love Killer hm, could it be Many Waters by Madeleine L'Engle?

Ellie

@Lorelei@twitter It reminded me of that too, but it's not.

FloraPosteHaste

@Snowy Owl Love Killer Madeline L'Engle wrote a few short stories about the boy Jesus in mythological Egypt...The Sphinx at Dawn, perhaps?

Growltiger

@Snowy Owl Love Killer -- Could it be David and the Phoenix by Edward Ormondroyd?

Snowy Owl Love Killer

@Growltiger I think this might be it! I'll have to read it, but I have a good feeling about it. Thank you so much!

Growltiger

@Snowy Owl Love Killer -- So glad I could (possibly) help!

ellochka

SUPER long shot, as my actual copy of this book was from my mom's 50s childhood, but I'll try anyway, because I REALLY want to buy this book for my boyfriend. Which will sound weird but totally makes sense in the bizarre context of our relationship. Also I really want to reread it, it was kind of awesome to my 8-10 year old self.

It's a true story. A couple can't have children, and they end up adopting a million kids of all different races/with disabilities/etc, and it is a Very Big Deal, because it is the forties or fifties. One girls is blond and has a big red "strawberry" birthmark on her face, there's a Japanese boy named Taro who they sort of borrow from his dad, who is still alive and I think a migrant worker. He comes to visit sometimes.

Miss Sparrow

@ellochka Could this be "The Family Nobody Wanted" by Helen Doss?

ellochka

@Miss Sparrow yesyesyes thank you so much!

ellochka

@Miss Sparrow Found on Amazon (for $0.98!!) and purchased for my boyfriend, whose stated familial ambition is "adopting a child of every race". Happy Valentine's day, slightly nutty boyfriend! I hope you like this and the 16 inch plush talking Dalek that arrived today!

Miss Sparrow

@ellochka Hurrah!

Cowgirl Rose

A boy and his family move into a house (I think temporarily as the house is furnished and the boy finds another boy's name carved into his headboard) that's haunted by a boy from perhaps the 1800's? The boys become friends, and by the end of the book, it's discovered that the ghost died in some sort of accident on the way home from a fair.

Kristen

@Cowgirl Rose I think I remember this book... I don't remember ANYTHING else about it except a blurry image of the cover, but hope someone solves it!

Steph

@Cowgirl Rose Oh oh I am now obsessed with figuring this one out.

Steph

@Cowgirl Rose Is it Time for Andrew by Mary Downing Hahn?

Cowgirl Rose

@Steph nope. I would have read this book in the mid-80's, but it's possible that it was published long before then. I don't remember anything specific to the "modern" time in which the story took place.

ironhoneybee

@Steph Ghost of Dibble Hollow?

Cowgirl Rose

@ironhoneybee That's it! And of course, my library doesn't have it. Boo.

Lemonnier

@Cowgirl Rose @ironhoneybee I was going to ask about this exact book! Mystery solved!

teaandcakeordeath

There was one where this girl wakes up age 17 after 4 years in a coma and I think there's a murderer after her or something but mostly the book was about transitioning from 13 to 17 overnight and how weird it was that fashions had changed and there were new celebrities and she just felt out of sorts the whole time - which I guess is how all teenagers* feel really.

*and everyone else

teaandcakeordeath

@teaandcakeordeath
I found it!
http://books.google.co.uk/books/about/The_Other_Side_of_Dark.html?id=wFxMhv5cauoC

fabel

@teaandcakeordeath oh godddddd, this sounds so familiar :[

Little Miss Bossy

@teaandcakeordeath Is there a scene where she wears damp jeans and has to squeeze into them so they will dry more tightly on her because that's the new trendy fashion??

teaandcakeordeath

@teaandcakeordeath
I had forgotten that and it still doesnt make any sense! Buy a size down, girl.

RebeccaKW

@teaandcakeordeath I think I read this. She was in a coma, but also still able to function, so the nurses walked her in the hallways to keep her muscles going and prevent bedsores?

Blackwatch Plaid

A family is vacationing in a beach house on an island, and the kids are unhappy because they're away from their friends (???). I know one of the daughters gets lyme disease, and another opens a stand selling painted seashells. I think there also might be a mystery involved?

etheline.

@Blackwatch Plaid WAIT. It's a big family? Maybe they are on Fire Island? For some reason, the Lyme disease angle sticks with me. Was it a non-BSC Ann M. Martin?

etheline.

@Blackwatch Plaid Eleven Kids, One Summer? Which followed Ten Kids, No Pets?

Blackwatch Plaid

@etheline. Yesss I just found it too. Thank you!

MsLady

@etheline. Oh, I loved those books when I was younger, and had totally forgotten about them. Thanks!

etheline.

@MsGray I had forgotten that I so loved Ann M. Martin I felt the need to read her entire oeuvre. BSC was my JAM.

cabber

Okay, a girl has a big brother who she nicknames Monse, maybe? And he runs over himself with the lawnmower and dies. Then she gets bitten by a snake and has to suck the poison out. I swear I read this book a billion times, but cannot remember what it was called or anything else about it. I am still scared of lawnmowers, by the way....

laurel

@cabber I remember watching a movie on a plane where the lawnmower thing happened.

bam1076

@cabber "Nobody's Fault." My fourth grade teacher read it aloud to us.

themegnapkin

@cabber I remember this!! Not the name, though.

themegnapkin

@bam1076 YES!! Only, I think it's "Nobody's Fault?", with a question mark. The girl had been upstairs, putting something in her brother's bed as a prank while he was mowing the lawn, and she felt guilty because if she had been on the ground floor she might have heard him screaming and been able to stop it.

cabber

@bam1076 YES. Thank you!

cabber

@themegnapkin Oh man, yes! That book was pretty depressing.

thedivinelorraine

I think this was a book for teens, from the 60's or 70's - it was my mom's and I read it over and over. All I remember is a girl named Clancy or Clarency or something with a C, she possibly had a cat and a crush on a neighbor or an adult and it was sort of an adult and sexy read? The cover I had was white.

Snowy Owl Love Killer

@thedivinelorraine I'm not sure, but I think this might be Camilla by Madeline L'Engle.

thedivinelorraine

@Snowy Owl Love Killer That is a good guess - it covers all the vague things I remembered, but that is not it. The title was her name, maybe it was Delaney or Delancey and not something with C. I think she spent a lot of time in the backyard or a field or something.

C_Webb

I want to post books I already know SO THAT THIS GOES ON FOREVER.

SarahP

Ohhhh! There's this series of Christian YA horror books where it's a brother and teen sister and a rebellious teen boy (whom the sister basically converts) who solve horror/demon-related mysteries because a mysterious person tells them to via the internet.

A librarian once recommended them to me, and I didn't want to tell her I wasn't Christian so I read the 3 that were in the library--only to find out that she kept ordering them for me, so I ended up reading pretty much all of them before she stopped working at the library (and so I could stop pretending to be interested in Christian YA fiction).

emilywhite

@SarahP These MIGHT be the "Forbidden Doors" series by Bill Myers. (My first guess was Frank Peretti's teen series, but it looks like it only had 2 books.)

SarahP

@emilywhite Yesssssss! Thank you! All of my internet searches turned up Frank Peretti, but it wasn't him. I almost want to find and reread them, but I'm afraid I'll strike up another awkward relationship with my (new) librarian.

owlegg

Does anyone remember a book about a dystopian future where sex-things are totally socially acceptable but anything intellectual is super taboo? I remember the male protagonist wanting to talk about The Catcher in the Rye with this girl he liked?

It might have been a short story actually?

Briony Fields

@owlegg Yes yes yes! I can't remember what it's called, but I read it in school. It was a short story. They talk about how you can tell who the lovers are because they are sitting on the swings, not touching, just talking and gesturing wildly.

Lu2
Lu2

@owlegg It wouldn't be This Perfect Day, by Ira Levin, would it? I don't remember Catcher in the Rye being part of the plot, but the thing about sex being A-OK but other, surprising, things not being, definitely resonates.

megatherium

@owlegg is that harrison bergeron?

owlegg

@Briony Fields That sounds right! I'm pretty sure I read it in a collection of short stories about adolescence that I got at the library.

@Lu2 I googled and I don't think it was This Perfect Day, I don't remember there being all of the treatments and stuff. The Catcher in the Rye thing isn't a key plot point or anything, just something I remember the narrator mentioning.

@megatherium No, I remember it being more YA Lit-y than Vonnegut.

anotherkate

@owlegg This isn't it, but if you want to read a book with a similar plot, try Biting the Sun by Tanith Lee.

breccia

welp i will try, just in case anyone is still going...

A young boy has an older brother who is bigger and stronger and frightens him. one summer he finds a shack/some small building where inside time moves incredibly slow. The kid moves in, works out constantly, and leaves for jogs on occasion (back in regular-time). he's naked a lot, cause he forgets he needs clothes. anyway he gets super buff and basically ages 1 year overnight and then goes to confront his bro and i remember feeling super weird about the ending because it was sort of like "wow dude why did you do that?? it was pretty unnecessary" and he's like "oh" and then "the end."

AM@twitter

@breccia Singularity by William Sleator!

breccia

@AM@twitter YAY thank you <3

cabber

This whole thread is 1)amazing and 2) making me feel like I was not nearly the voracious reader I believe myself to have been since there are SO MANY books being described here that I have never heard of (and now really want to read).

Cowgirl Rose

@cabber I feel the same about both 1 and 2. This thread is like a great little snow day present.

ironhoneybee

Nicole, is the third one The Gauntlet by Ronald Welch?
http://www.amazon.com/Gauntlet-Oxford-Childrens-Modern-Classi/dp/0192717626

Nicole Cliffe

No, but I have immediately purchased almost everything anyone has incorrectly guessed!

ironhoneybee

@Nicole Cliffe Seven Day Magic, Edward Eager?
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0152020780/metafilter-20/ref=nosim/

Ellie

I think the Edward Eager book people are trying to get at is Knight's Castle . . .

missupright

@ironhoneybee I had forgotten about this totally until just now. I thought I'd dreamed it. That scene where he is lying on the hill and hears the aeroplane and is so lost and oh god, I honestly thought I'd dreamed it.

Briony Fields

My memories are so vague, but:

A girl goes to visit....friends? Family? I don't know. She realizes when she enters one room in the house she goes back in time, and she makes good friends with a girl from like, 100 years ago named Mary? Maybe? Anyway, she later finds out that Mary died in a house fire but she couldn't stop the fire from happening from the ~future~ and at some point she is at Mary's grave and it's all very sad.

Little Miss Bossy

@Briony Fields Hmmmm .... it's not "Yesterday's Doll" is it? That involves time travel but the vessel is dreams/doll when a girl is recovering from some sort of fever at her grandparent's house. The girl who dies is actually "her" (as she is transported into a pioneer girl's body).

annebh

@Briony Fields Is it Stonewords, by Pam Conrad? It's about a girl who becomes good friends with a ghost, who definitely died in a fire in the house, and at the end of the book the girl goes back in time to try and prevent the fire. And I think the book begins with the girl visiting the ghost girl's grave, although they are both named Zoe. I LOVED this book when I was younger!

http://www.amazon.com/Stonewords-Ghost-Story-Harper-Trophy/dp/0064403548

Briony Fields

@annebh YESSS! Ah, that's a happier book than I remembered. Right, where did Mary come from? Of course it was Zoe! Thank you so much :)

annebh

@Briony Fields I registered JUST to comment on your status, because I remember that book so vividly. Like the scene where both of the girls are out in the yard, and Ghost Zoe can eat berries if she tries really, really hard.

LindsayJ

@annebh Thank you SO much for remembering this! I waited until Saturday to revisit this post with "ghost" typed in my search bar because I figured someone would HAVE to mention this book. Yay, now I know.

grapesoda

@Little Miss Bossy Yesterday's Doll! I read that when I was like 7 and the ending where she died in her fever dream scared me so much. I remember being so mad at my mom because she picked it out for me.

SuperGogo

Okay, here we go: It's a YA book about a boy and girl who get lost together on a camping trip, possibly in the Sierra Nevadas?, and the girl I think sprains her ankle and there's some proto-sexual tension when they have to share a tent and there's flooding so they get lost further because the steam has split into multiple channels and there might be a cave in there too and eventually they're rescued and boyfriend and girlfriend 4ever...?

EmilyStarr

@SuperGogo I don't think so, but this isn't the Goats, is it? That's less of a by accident lost thing, so I assume not, but thought I'd try.

themegnapkin

@SuperGogo is this the one where they're climbing in a canyon. I think they're cousins? The girl's father is rich but the family is just the two of them, the boy's father is poor (but part of a big and loving family, and he likes barrel racing, whatever that is), and someone goes after the rich father and they have to split up, the fathers in one group, the kids in another, and then there's a flash flood, and the boy sprains his ankle, and for some reason the girl has to tear off part of her shirt to fix it (??), and then they're rescued the next day? Maybe different book.

SuperGogo

@EmilyStarr Close, but that's too recent. This would've been a late 80s or early 90s book--I'm an Old.

@themegnapkin It seems really really similar, but I don't remember being squicked out by a kissing-cousins aspect. But maybe I just suppressed that part!

Ellie

@EmilyStarr I read The Goats and thought of that too, but probably isn't it. The main thing I remember from The Goats is the intense and disturbingly vivid description of shame it evoked, and the random vomiting scene. Also the "Milk Bar" t-shirt which took me literally forever to get.

EmilyStarr

@SuperGogo The Goats was originally published in 1987 (http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/526729.The_Goats). I think they just did a rerelease for its anniversary (I'm an Old, too).

Gansett

@EmilyStarr I was going to ask if anybody remembered the title of the book about the boy and girl who were marooned on an island by their campmates! The scene I remember most vividly is when they tricked the motel's cleaning lady into giving them a room key. It's been bugging me for years. GOATS.

mabellegueule

@SuperGogo
It is SO weird what people remember! If someone had said The Goats or the author's name or even "a story about two kids abandoned while camping" I would have confidently told you I had never read it. Yet "milkbar" sticks in my head because it also took me forever to get ( a man tells her the shirt is false advertizing, right?). Still can't remember what happened in the book but definitely having a flashback to my elementary school library.

edianes

@SuperGogo Registered purely to guess that this is Just a Little Bit Lost, by Laurel Trivielpiece.

SuperGogo

@edianes YES THIS IS IT!! Thank you and welcome!

breccia

OH can I do another?!: there is a girl, and she is GROWING UP! her friend is more "advanced" than she is, as in, she tries to get boys connnnnnnstantly while the protagonist just generally feels out of place. A lot of the book is set at a pool, I think. Her friend wears a white swimming suit that ends up see-through and the girl can't bring herself to say anything. finally she meets a boy (maybe at the pool?) and they sneak off for her first kiss. she spends a lot of time sneaking off to kiss him. ACTUALLY i think it was written "diary-style" because I remember her keeping a count of how many kisses she got.

this book made me super excited for kisses, and also taught me to never buy a white swimsuit.

themegnapkin

@breccia isn't this Starring Sally J. Freedman as Herself?

breccia

@themegnapkin I don't think so. I don't recall it having any themes of importance. Really just "growin up, feelin good about yourself, kissin boys." Definitely no racism/hitler...

recessionsalone

@breccia You are thinking of Absolutely Normal Chaos by Sharon Creech who is the best

schrodingers_cat

@breccia Oh man I think read this book (I remember the white swimsuit especially) but I can't remember the title

breccia

@recessionsalone that must be it! thank you!!

Miss Kitty Fantastico

@recessionsalone Sharon Creech wrote a couple other books that were awesome... Walk Two Moons and Chasing Redbird (I had to google those). I loved her when I was younger and totally forgot about it!

jeoparty

@Madeline Shoes I've been reading this thread ready to jump in with Chasing Redbird and Walk Two Moons. SO amazing.

calamity

OH I think this might be a fairly famous one, I actually consulted Judy Blume's Wikipedia entry to make sure she hadn't written it ...

A girl moves from Connecticut (I think) to New York City because her dad lost his job? or something? and they couldn't afford their suburban lifestyle anymore. She and her friends in CT had made up a club that was called like, AAA, or the AAA Girls, and I'm not sure that stood for anything, but they all wore matching floral shorts. She spends a lot of time missing them.

I'm PRETTY sure that in NYC she makes friends with a girl named KJ, who has a dog that's named something ridiculous like Martin Luther King or Woodrow Wilson. That might be a different book, but I think it's the same.

alicke

@calamity i don't know but i think i may have read a prequel to this, defintely a club of girls called the AAA girls BECAUSE THAT WAS THEIR BRA SIZE. the protagonist was the middle child and her mom was a copywriter or something and she helped her mom come up with the name for a plate design she called "evergreen" and her mom gave her the money for it!?

miss lonelyhearts

@calamity My Fabulous New Life by Sheila Greenwald. I think the club was called A1 though, because they were A #1 The Best.

I read this book in a single afternoon and devoured most of a bag of Baked Lays Sour Cream & Onion, and now I can't eat a single one of those chips without thinking of Alison and her A1s.

mel
mel

This has been bugging me for years; I'm pretty sure it's NOT "In the Year of the Boar and Jackie Robinson" which is the only book I can find with a similar plot.

It's about a Chinese brother and sister whose family immigrates to the US (possibly San Francisco-ish). She chooses the name of their social worker for her American name and her brother names himself after the street they're on. They are confused by people drinking milk ("cow pee") and pull the strings off of celery when invited to eat at a neighbor's house.

TheBelleWitch

@mel I so know this book! The celery string thing stuck with me ... but what is it called?? I'm going to keep thinking.

sumerfish

@mel "The All-American Slurp" short story? I remember the celery strings that go "zip zip zip" and the whole party looks at them when they pull them off.

TheBelleWitch

@mel aha! I think I found it - “The All-American Slurp” by Lensey Namioka. It's a short story and actually available online if you Google the title.

mel
mel

@sumerfish @TheBelleWitch Maybe my problem is that I'm combining stories in my head! Slurp seems familiar (especially the milkshake part in the end), but my class read the one I'm thinking of in 3rd grade and that story seems a bit advanced...?

I definitely remember the part about them coming up with American names and the social worker jokes that they could have ended up being "Brunhilde and Battery!" if she and the street had different names.

Ellie

@TheBelleWitch Yeah, it's one of those frequently anthologized for kids short stories. I LOVE books about the Asian-American experience. A great adult one is Fifth Chinese Daughter.

Blackwatch Plaid

Ok, one more. It's about a girl who's a gymnast, and her mother gets cancer. Most of the book is her struggling with that, and then the last line is something like "mom's dead, and it sucks." Any ideas?

emilywhite

@Blackwatch Plaid Could be You Shouldn't Have To Say Goodbye by Patricia Hermes. Don't be fooled by the re-publication date--it's classic '80s YA.

Blackwatch Plaid

@emilywhite That's it! Thank you.

calamity

OMG I thought of more

There was one about an American family living in London, and in the first chapter, the girl's younger brother gets blown up by a terrorist on the tube - some stranger had given him a bag and said "hey your friend dropped this" but then he realized that said friend had his bag so the stranger was lying, and he realizes that this bag has a bomb inside of it (obvious conclusion for an 11 year old to make) so he sits down on the train floor and wraps his body around it, and then it explodes and he dies. And there was a woman nearby with her baby in a stroller, and since this kid's body was wrapped around it, she only lost her legs instead of dying.

I also remember another book about a girl whose younger brother died, except this one was from cancer. The brother's name was Mickey, I'm pretty sure, and the cover of a book was ... a picture of the girl running? Maybe the title had something to do with running in it?

I'm going to stay in this post forever I think, nothing else is worth doing anymore

Elsajeni

@calamity Is the first one The Terrorist by Caroline Cooney?

calamity

@Elsajeni YES, thank you! I should have guessed Caroline B. Cooney, I was obsessed with her when I was like 11.

MissChanandlerBong

@calamity Is the second one Running Out of Time??? I don't think anybody was named Mickey, but the rest sounds similar enough. Also I just want to talk about Running Out of Time so hopefully somebody else remembers this book.

yeah-elle

@MissChanandlerBong I loooove Running Out of Time. I remember being enraged when they changed the cover of the new edition (the one I had had a portrait split in half of her running, with her happy face tshirt, haha). I think they based The Village on it, but it's clearly not the same thing.

calamity

@MissChanandlerBong No, that's not it, ALTHOUGH I did read that book and loved it!! She had to wear her mother's bell bottoms and hippie smiley face t-shirt from 20 years ago because that's all they had left!

The brother definitely died of cancer in the second book, and I'm about 75% sure his name was Mickey. Maybe Mikey. I think the cover was the sister running on a beach.

calamity

@MissChanandlerBong Aaaand that same author, it turns out, did Turnabout which was the next book I was going to post about! And somehow I found it even though all I remembered was that they aged backwards, and one of the girl's name was Anny.

Leanne

@calamity Me too. Staying here forever. Your post about the girl's brother dying reminded me of this book Say Goodnight, Gracie, which I used to love, and I am going to download immediately.

MissChanandlerBong

@yeah-elle YES THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR MAKING THE VILLAGE CONNECTION I was irrationally enraged when I saw that movie and realized it was basically a bastardization of this beloved book from my childhood BUT NOBODY ELSE HAD READ THE BOOK AND COULD SYMPATHIZE WITH ME ughh sometimes my life is so hard.

Spinsters Get Up For Breakfast

@yeah-elle I LOVED Running Out of Time too and was actually going to post about it if nobody had mentioned it because i couldn't remember the name! I even tried asking my grade school librarian (since I checked it out of my grade school library) a few years ago and she had no idea what I was talking about. I remember feeling so inadequate because one of the ways they made her prove she really was from that village during the press conference or something was by making her recite the recent names of the presidents? Because in the olden days they did a lot of memorization and oral recitation to prove they mastered the material?

I also remember being very confused about her getting yelled at for saying "okay" in the village since it was anachronistic.

This post is the best!

clarezebell

@calamity I was randomly searching for another book in this post and came across the second one you mentioned. It's Run, Run, as Fast as You Can by Mary Pope Osborne. His name IS Mickey and the cover is her running on the beach.

angelinha

@calamity This is in another comment thread here but in case you didn't see it: Mick Harte Was Here!

angelinha

@angelinha Oh wait that wasn't cancer though, it was a bike accident. Nevermind.

Malaise

What about the one where this girl goes to stay with her dad for the summer after her parents divorce, and he's not around much, and even though she is a good girl, she falls for a bad boy who turns her on to Bennies, Black Beauties, Yellow Jackets, and all sorts of other cleverly named pills, and she becomes a total Paula Abdul-style pill popper, and then the plot gets fuzzy, but I believe she learns a valuable lesson about herself and gives up the drugs. On the cover, she is pretty, dark blond with feathered bangs so gigantic you could fly away on them. And she has a penchant for halter tops and bare-midriffs (maybe I made that part up, not sure).

Blackwatch Plaid

@Malaise Ugh I read this and was going to prompt it myself! I can't remember the title though, gah!

Malaise

@Blackwatch Plaid Darn!

Oh, and I can't believe I forgot to mention all of the glorious "reefer" they smoked. Didn't she upgrade to "sherms" at some point too?

does it need saying

@Malaise It kind of sounds like "Go Ask Alice" ecept the part where she ends up ok. Pretty sure Alice dies.

Apocalypstick

@Malaise I remember a book where the characters went to the beach a lot, & at one point the protagonist is worried about her friend and says "you were popping those pills like they were tictacs", to which her friend replies that they WERE tictacs. This confused me a lot, because a) wouldn't these seasoned druggie kids notice the difference? and b) why'd she lie anyway? Pretty sure both were ok at the end too, and mousy protagonist gets the guy instead of leggy blonde friend. (Isn't it amazing how many of these YA books are just about envy?)

calamity

ohhhh another:

A family of Jewish refugees moves to the US during WW2, or thereabouts (I think). The main girl is like 15 and her name is on the tip of my tongue .... It's like Paula or Karla or something slightly ethnic but not very? ANYWAY I don't really remember much of anything that happens, except they're really poor at first. The mom works as a housekeeper for a local family, and they give her some of their kids' old clothes, which the daughter starts wearing. But her mom's employer's daughter goes to school with the main girl, and recognizes her old clothes, and makes fun of her and the main girl is so embarrassed because her mom hadn't told her where the clothes came from ...

Little Miss Bossy

@calamity And does the family live in a basement apartment??

Lisa Frank

@calamity I think I read this. Are there three sisters? And the older one is beautiful and sophisticated and the younger one gets sick at some point. And the main character is the middle daughter and feels awkward and she misses their father because he went to the US ahead of them?
The book I'm thinking of is Journey to America by Sonia Levitin.

calamity

@Little Miss Bossy Possibly? I don't explicitly remember.

I think they owned a sewing machine, and also used like ... wooden cartons for furniture, since they couldn't afford real chairs or whatever.

ironhoneybee

@Little Miss Bossy All of a Kind Family, maybe?

calamity

@Lisa Frank ahhh yes that's it, thanks!

I don't remember the sisters, but I recognized the character's name on the Amazon page. It was Lisa Platt!

Little Miss Bossy

@ironhoneybee The book I'm remembering is more on the grim/WWII-side. I think I might also be confusing it with a novel where a young immigrant girl (either Jewish or Hungarian?) is super clumsy and it turns out that she just needs glasses. I recall the Dad being a bit of an ogre because he used to be a professional in Europe and was now a janitor or something. For some reason I think it also took place in Canada (Montreal, Toronto, or Winnipeg?)

MissChanandlerBong

@Little Miss Bossy Does her name happen to begin with an R? (possibly the least-helpful comment anyone has posted on this thread yet)

EKPinc

@Little Miss Bossy That's got to be Jean Little's From Anna. They move from Germany to Canada, and in Germany they always thought that Anna was just an idiot and couldn't learn to read but it turns out she's legally blind. Dad's not an ogre though, he's the best!

http://www.amazon.com/Anna-Jean-Little/dp/0440842085/ref=sr_1_5?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1360354595&sr=1-5&keywords=jean+little

Lisa Frank

@MissChanandlerBong Letter's from Rifka? Another book about a Jewish immigrant girl to New York.

Little Miss Bossy

@EKPinc In it goes into my Amazon cart ... why am I remembering the father as terrible though?? And is there a basement apartment? (our family home is 150+ farm house with a scary, damp cellar so the concept of a basement apartment was really horrifying to me as a child).
@Lisa Frank In the description of Letters from Rifka the story does not seem familiar.

MissChanandlerBong

@Lisa Frank Yes, Letters from Rifka is exactly what I was thinking of, thanks! I don't remember particularly liking this book, I think it was just mandatory summer reading or something. Doesn't she get ringworm and her hair falls out? Just about the only plot point I remember.

Lisa Frank

@MissChanandlerBong Yes, she definitely gets ringworm and is quarantined at Ellis Island. Also the deckhand that she has a crush on is swept overboard in a storm.

EKPinc

@Little Miss Bossy Read it and let me know! It's been ages, but I remember Dad as a nice guy, and Mom and brothers as kind of cruel. And Anna makes a lamp (or something) out of beads just like Mary's beading in Little House on the Prairie!

christonacracker

Nicole -- are you sure No. 3 doesn't involve a miniature castle that he gets sucked into or something? Or is that the book people keep suggesting but is wrong?

Nicole Cliffe

It does not. Maybe the latter?

Ellie

@christonacracker Are you thinking of The Castle In The Attic (which has a sequel, The Battle for the Castle)? I liked both of those.

Homestar Runner

@Ellie Related question--I remember reading The Castle in the Attic, but is that the one where he somehow brings his bike back in time with him, and all the old-timey people are impressed with his "magical steed"?

Ellie

@Homestar Runner Hmm, I don't know! I read it a really long time ago (fourth grade I think) so I don't remember. That sounds familiar, but I don't know if it's in that book or not.

Little Miss Bossy

@Homestar Runner He totally brings his bike with him and in the sequel his friend brings his bike too (maybe the bikes actually feature larger in the sequel?). The first one has a baddie called "Janus" and the second features evil, human-sized (?) rats.

christonacracker

@Ellie YES I AM AND I LOVE YOU

EmilyStarr

Oh, I have one. A boy falls for this girl who's very, very pretty, but otherwise doesn't seem to have much redeeming about her. She and her family hunt, but he and his friend? sister? know of a huge old deer who lives in the woods, and this girl he's fallen for somehow uses him to find the deer? It's where I learned about points on antlers.

Erin Sturm@twitter

@EmilyStarr Is it A Fabulous Creature by Zilpha Keatley-Snyder?
http://www.amazon.com/Fabulous-Creature-Zilpha-Keatley-Snyder/dp/B0058QJUDO

EmilyStarr

@Erin Sturm@twitter YESSSS. Thank you! I had a feeling it was one of that group of authors, but could NOT think of it.

Kallie

It's not a book but there is this movie that I have strange memories of and I can't remember it for the life of me. I think it's an English movie about a little boy who is bald and can't grow any hair. His parents get him a wig to glue on but mean kids at soccer practice rip it off and he's really sad. Him and maybe a friend find this weird factory where a man gives him a lotion to make his hair grow and then it won't STOP growing and he is scared. The weird factory ends up being a kids sweat shop or something? So weird but I would love to find out what it is so I can rewatch that weird shit!

Snowy Owl Love Killer

@Kallie Aah! This is the Peanut Butter Solution! I can't believe someone else has watched it. It was super fucked up/scary when I watched it as a kid. It was a Canadian movie and had a Celine Dion song for some reason.

nanlamb

@Kallie That's a Canadian movie called "The Peanutbutter Solution."

Kallie

@Snowy Owl Love Killer Yes!! How could I forget a title that has peanut butter in it? This is so awesome, I getting this immediately!

Kallie

@Snowy Owl Love Killer I have to see it if just for the random Celine Dion song, what!?

Minx

@Snowy Owl Love Killer Yes! We owned that movie! (Still do? Might be buried in a box somewhere.) I have no idea why. It is hands down the most bizarre movie I have ever seen. Nothing makes any sense. Who came up with this story and why did they think, "Yes, let's make that a movie"??????

Steph

This was a YA book about a moody teenage girl. I can't remember much of what happens except that near the end she ends up giving this older teen a blow job (possibly on a couch in a gas station?). Might have been her friends older brother?
It was the first time I'd ever HEARD of such a thing and my world was forever changed.

The Lady of Shalott

@Steph Is it The Torn Skirt? I know that there is a blow-job scene in it but I think it's the girl's maybe-boyfriend who she walks in on while he's giving or getting a blowjob from another dude? I don't know, I read it at 14 and I was really confused.

synchronized
synchronized

@Steph Wait, was it maybe a teacher and not an older teen? And did it perhaps take place on a picnic table outdoors?

Steph

@synchronized No it was definitely a teen in this one, and they might have had sex too. I think it was the first sex scene I've ever read so I remember it so well.

Aphrodite

@Steph Was it Girl by Blake Nelson?

nlim07

This is great! I'm looking for this chick-lit book based in London. Protagonist has red hair, is a journalist or a tabloid magazine writer, likes to shop at Agent Provocateur, and if i remember correctly, she has a stalker?

Flora Poste

@nlim07 It couldn't maybe be The Other Side of The Story by Marian Keyes? The main character has red hair and is a literary agent, and I feel like there might be some kind of stalking plotline...

nlim07

@Flora Poste no that's not it but thanks!!! but right after I read your comment I remembered that she wrote for Wow! MAgazine and I found the book!!!! it's called Wow! (clearly it's super trashy). So thanks for your help!

Atheist Watermelon

@Flora Poste Marian Keyes novels are my favorite guilty pleasure trashy lit reading :-)

Snowy Owl Love Killer

I also read a book in elementary school about a girl who was obsessed with the tooth fairy and dressed up as the tooth fairy for Halloween. She moved to Texas (maybe Austin?) and had to adjust to a new climate and make friends. Also, her mom made greeting cards. I think it was published somewhere between 1995-2002 if that helps. It was super relevant for me because I had just moved to a new town. Did anyone else ever read it?

szarah

@Snowy Owl Love Killer Is this an Anastasia Krupnick book? I think her mom wrote greeting cards. But those books might be older than 1995.

Snowy Owl Love Killer

@szarah No, it isn't one of those, but I did love all the Anastasia Krupnik books!

Erin Sturm@twitter

@Snowy Owl Love Killer Is it The T.F. Letters by Karen Ray?
http://www.amazon.com/The-T-Letters-Karen-Ray/dp/0141307056

Snowy Owl Love Killer

@Erin Sturm@twitter Yes! Thank you so much!

Lucienne

So, it's a children's book about the royal coat of arms of the UK and all the heraldic beasts are the main characters. One of the characters is also a dilemma, with horns and everything. Umm and they're fighting the Welsh Dragon, but I remember an author's note saying that the Welsh Dragon got the worst of it, not being on the coat of arms at all. The book was illustrated, I think with pen and ink drawings? I don't think there were any human characters, but I might be wrong about that.

Please let someone have read this one!

Fodforever

This is pretty far down, but I'm hoping someone knows it!

17 or 18-year old female protagonist, and it seems like it's set in the 80s or 90s, where there are basic computers but nothing too high tech (I read it in the 90s and thought the tech seemed a bit old I guess?). Anyway, the main character is super good at sports, and school and everything comes easily to her, and she plays badminton and goes to this big regional competition, and...

It's revealed that it is a future dystopia where her whole town has been fabricated a la The Truman Show around her, and the badminton is a test to see which genetically engineered teen is the best! And she has purple eyes (I think all the genetically altered teens did).

Halp!

HeyThatsMyBike

@Fodforever Violet Eyes? By Nicole Luiken?

Fodforever

@HeyThatsMyBike Yessss! Thanks!

professionalmess

Okay this one is a (short?) story I started reading online a year or so ago and didn't bookmark and now can't find.

The idea is that famous historical figures have been cloned/reincarnated in modern day. And someone, maybe other reborn historical figures, is trying to kill them. I think that one guy, possibly the main character,figures who is one of these historical has a girlfriend who turns out to have secretly been Joan of Arc of something.

And another one I just thought of, probably from the late 70s or early 80s as I think I found it at my grandma's house after my mom or aunt didn't return it to the library. It's set in the future and everyone lives in space, like a space station, I guess? The main girl is named something like Aurora.
Also, this could be a different book I read at the same time, but maybe she knows how to say "I love you" and "Where's the bathroom?" in different languages because one is practical and one is romantic.

breccia

@professionalmess i dont know but have you seen the old MTV cartoon CLONE HIGH because it is amazing. the main characters are lincoln, ghandi, and joan of arc.

Julia duMais

@breccia I HAVE YOUR BABY IN ME GIRAFFE

EKPinc

@breccia Did you see the pool? They flipped the b*tch!....They're rioting at a college level!

emilywhite

@professionalmess The Aurora-on-a-space-station one is probably "This Place Has No Atmosphere," by Paula Danziger. Memory joggers: most people still live on Earth, but they're colonizing... the Moon? Her aunt, who lives on earth, makes delicious brownies and has an aloe plant in her kitchen for oven burns.

professionalmess

@emilywhite Yes!!!! You are awesome!

Tuna Surprise

How about the book about two tween boys who are best friends and the one boy is an only child and really protected and the other boy is chubby and from a big family. The chubby boy drowns when they try to swim across the river they weren't supposed to be swimming across and the survivor boy goes home and takes a shower?

Then, later, when everyone figures out what happened, the parents of the dead boy come over and say "we have tons of kids, but we worried about this one the most".

Don't know why, but this book has bothered me forever.

Homestar Runner

@Tuna Surprise On My Honor! There was this really vivid description of how the survivor smelled the river for days afterward, like the guilt had become an odor.

littleoaks

@Tuna Surprise Is it On My Honor, by Marion Dane Bauer?

missupright

@Tuna Surprise The book I am thinking of is not the book you are thinking of, unless yours is incredibly English and set in the Fens and is called something like Old Jim's Locket?

ETA: GAFFER SAMSON'S LUCK!

This book is not your book but did also possibly have traumatic drowning of one boy while another lived.

Tuna Surprise

@Tuna Surprise
Ding, ding, ding. ON MY HONOR is the winner!!!
Thanks everone!

Blackwatch Plaid

I just keep coming up with them. This one is super vague in my memories, and also creepy as hell, so good luck. A boy with a neglectful family gets lost in the woods, where he meets these people (creatures?) and joins their society for a while? I remember almost nothing, except at the end he gives his eyes to one of the female leaders who has none, and has to find his way home eyeless. It was gross and unsettling, and I was never sure what the moral was supposed to be. Anybody?

harrypotter4422

@Blackwatch Plaid

Is it this one?

http://www.amazon.com/The-Beasties-William-Sleator/dp/0141306394/ref=ntt_at_ep_dpt_8

Blackwatch Plaid

@bishopsbird Yes, thank you. Now I'm 3 for 3!

harrypotter4422

@Blackwatch Plaid Oh, yay! Glad to help. I think William Sleator's come up a bit here--he writes such fun, creepy books.

Emily E. Hilliard

Is #3 The Forgotten Door? Or Children of Green Knowe?

missupright

@Emily E. Hilliard I am only commenting to express how much I love love love The Children of Green Knowe. The twigs like letters! Green Noah, demon tree! The peacock and the little mole with Linnet's seed-pearls around his neck! The toby-dogs and the owl at the window! THE HAND ON THE BANISTER-POST!

squishycat

@missupright My mother and my godmother got me *hooked* on the Green Knowe books. I don't think I ever read them all, but close to.

anotherkate

@missupright Yes! They had the Green Knowe books at my branch library when I was a kid and I read all of them except the River one, which I didn't know existed until much later. How freaking weird is the Stranger at Green Knowe, though? Like, hi weird 70's Satanic plotline, what are you doing in my beloved children's book.
One day I will go to England and visit LM Boston's estate, which is open to the public.

Steph

There's a teenage girl and her parents are chimp or gorilla reserarchers (can't remember which) so when she gets in a car accident and almost dies they transplant HER BRAIN into an apes body. Then she has to relearn to live, but as a chimp/gorilla? And eventually she shuns society to live with the apes?

Snowy Owl Love Killer

@Steph Eva by Peter Dickinson

Steph

@Snowy Owl Love Killer Yup! Nice job.

calamity

@Snowy Owl Love Killer That book was great - it was my summer reading book report in eighth grade, and I actually reread it ~5 years ago. Still awesome.

missupright

@Steph I was thinking about this only today! It properly gave me the wake-up-in-the-night heebie jeebies, because WHAT IF.

oboe-d-amore

@Steph Oh my gosh, that book was so, so strange.

Steph

@oboe-d-amore Seriously. I vividly remember the girl waking up in bed and figuring out she was a chimp!

Lisa Frank

I have so many more! Can this become a regular Hairpin feature?

maryofmarylandia

@Lisa Frank

i would support this - i created an account just for it!

cabber

@maryofmarylandia Me too! And I am the lurker to end all lurkers. Books! Snow! Memories!

Kallie

@Lisa Frank Yes!!

lucy snowe

I have two.

The first one's a poem-- it was in the anthology we read from for maybe sophomore English class in high school.

All I remember is one line, "I never cared for March." Pretty sure it's a woman poet, mid-twentieth century. But I've looked everywhere and I can't find it.

The other is a YA novel, set in the olden days (vaguely medieval-ish.) A young woman is traveling with a gourp of animals. They've all been cursed. Part of the curse is that they're crippled by jewels-- the girl is hunched from pain from the ruby (?) in her bellybutton, the fish has to be fed paste by hand around the pearl in its mouth, and so forth.

Anyone?

anotherkate

@lucy snowe Trying to google the poem, I think I just found your blog though.

lucy snowe

@anotherkate Sssssshhhh! I tried to disable that, but I don't know how to fight google.

Thanks for looking, though!

aperson

@lucy snowe I feel like I've read that book, and I feel like I actually managed to track it down a few years ago and apparently in the interim have forgotten whatever details helped me recover it. Was the girl's name possibly Summer? Hopefully someone else has a clearer memory.

[sic]

@lucy snowe Do you know whether the poem was originally written in English?

anotherkate

@lucy snowe Google is unstoppable. Do you remember anything about the general themes/topics of the poem? Do you think you'd remember if the poet's name had sounded like it was a foreign country? Have you tried looking for the textbook/anthology the poem was published in?

lucy snowe

@aperson Maybe. She had long, dark hair, and I know she thought she was ugly, so refused to look at her reflection ever-- but that she saw something once relected in a trough of water that looked liked a pretty young woman.

The five jewels (5?) that crippled her and her friends, were part of some spell that would overthrow the witch (?) who cursed them. ?

Yeah. It's really foggy. Thanks for trying, though.

lucy snowe

@[sic] Yes, it was in English.

It was about how March was long and drab and soul-sucking.

I often feel the same way about March, which is why the line stuck with me. Maybe I should try calling my high school and asking what anthology was in use then. But the prospect of doing that gives me the fear.

lucy snowe

@anotherkate It was very embarrassing to make the post here, then do a search and discover one of the only hits was me, asking the same question. I'm stuck in some internet moebius loop!

I have a vague idea her first name might have been Margaret. But I'm basing that on almost nothing. And I don't know if she was English or American, but I don't think it was any other stripe of English speaker.

That's all I've got. :(

oh well never mind

@lucy snowe
Very late here, but is is anything to do with "April is the cruellest month"..?

lucy snowe

@moosette Well, in that the poems have similar themes-- namely, that the month in question is hard to live through-- yes. But it's a different poet. Thank you, though!

jooya

There's a girl whose mom married another girl's dad, but there may be more stepsiblings than just the two of them. The girl's name is Beryl, or Beryllium, or something similar. And she liked her pizza with MARSHMALLOWS on top, and all of her other stepfamily hated her for that.

anotherkate

@jooya I think I read this! Is there a boy that both girls like, who maybe get a sunburned nose because he's a lifeguard or something? And one girl steals a term paper from the other, but somehow they both get in trouble with the teacher? And at the end they're friends and call each other's parents "mom" and "dad" when they get called for dinner?

anotherkate

@jooya Okay I was thinking of Practically Twins by Viola Rowe, which must be a different book than yours.

SongToSing

OMG, I have two!! Someone help, these have been driving me insane for yeeaaars!!

1. A series that takes place in an elementary school (maybe second or third grade)? The only identifying detail I remember is that one of the main characters, a girl, liked to say "Hex!" to people she didn't like. It was like her version of cursing, or showing annoyance, the only way an 8-year-old can.

2. Another series, this one about a bunch of girls who were in ballet class together. I remember one of the girls was overweight, and her name was Gwen or something similar, and she freaked out when the dance teacher started weighing everyone during class, in front of everyone. And this girl's mother was loud and over-bearing and kept using the word "brassiere" instead of "bra," which was SUPER embarrassing.

Anyone?!

EKPinc

@SongToSing Bad News Ballet! I couldn't remember the title and it doesn't SOUND right, but this is definitely it:

http://www.amazon.com/Drat-Were-Rats-News-Ballet/dp/0970016409/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1360351101&sr=1-1&keywords=bad+news+ballet

mel
mel

@SongToSing I totally remember some book where the French ballet teacher refers to arms as "bras" and the student being really confused and embarrassed, but I don't think it's the same book.

SongToSing

@EKPinc YAY!!! Thank you!!! <3

Leanne

@SongToSing I LOVED THIS BOOK!!!!!

flanhoodles

@mel I think the one where the ballet teacher calls arms "bras" is Ellen Tebbits by Beverly Cleary. And she's really embarrassed because her mom makes her wear long underwear, and she tries to hide it.

Minx

@SongToSing Oh my gosh, I've been trying to remember #2 since third grade!!!

lumbermouth

Probably more "J" than "YA." A girl's dad is the camp doctor for the summer. She doesn't want to go to camp with her parents, so they say she can bring a friend with her. She picks a girl she is not really friends with who is way more glamorous and developed. Of note:
-friend spills nail polish remover in the family's brand new car on the trip; dad makes it okay by explaining how Native Americans couldn't have something without a flaw because it would displease the gods, and now friend has saved their car from being perfect
-friend lets girl use her lipstick; girl puts lid on without screwing lipstick down and crushes lipstick; friend says she can keep it now
-friend has glamorous way of walking described as "ka BOOM, ka BOOM." girl tries to imitate it, gets her kas and BOOMs mixed up, falls into the pool
-girl suspects that friend's tiny purple bikini is not designed for actually being in the pool; at the end of the book friend finally gets in the pool and her tiny purple bikini top floats away

lumbermouth

@lumbermouth Also, when the girl went to pick up the friend when they left for camp, the friend's mom cautioned the girl to not let the friend eat any peanut butter over the summer, because "it goes straight to her thighs."

miss lonelyhearts

@lumbermouth I don't know what this is but it sounds amazing.

EKPinc

Ok, so this one is about a chemistry set, and the girl makes a potion to make her grandparents younger -- but of course it backfires and she ends up changing their diapers and I think they disappear or almost disappear at the end, and it's scary because what if they age out of existence? And they're at the beach.

Please help, I have very vivid memories of this book!

szarah

@EKPinc I have TOTALLY read this but I can't remember the name either! I do remember a very detailed description of the chemistry set being in this fancy old box and one of the characters setting up a lab in a shed?

EKPinc

@szarah yes, that's definitely it. And this is not the same as the Lemonade Trick, a book that was also about a too-effective chemistry set. Chemistry sets must have been very popular!

argh, google searching is definitely not working.

oboe-d-amore

@EKPinc Omg, I think I have read this! I don't remember what it's called, though, unfortunately.

alicke

@EKPinc i don't know about this but in charlie and the great glass elevator the grandparents age into pre-existence

emilywhite

@oboe-d-amore @szarah @EKPinc You're not all thinking of the 2000 Tia/Tamera/Tahj Mowry movie "Seventeen Again," are you? Maybe combined with Margaret Peterson Haddix's "Turnabout," which came out around the same time and heavily featured the baby/gone dilemma? (Probably not...)

EKPinc

@emilywhite nooo, it was definitely a book. BUT when I was searching for the book I came across the movie :) Maybe the movie is based on the book??

Erin Sturm@twitter

@EKPinc- Is it The Summer I Shrank My Grandmother?
http://www.amazon.com/The-Summer-Shrunk-My-Grandmother/dp/0440406404

EKPinc

@Erin Sturm@twitter It IS! That is DEFINITELY IT. You are amazing, I had totally given up hope of anyone knowing this one!

THANK YOU! :)

EKPinc

@EKPinc And it's available at my local library! This is the best.

megatherium

OK, I'm not sure it was YA, it may have been a mystery, but all the characters were in this English class (?) and had to study the sonnets and somehow solved a mystery involving Sonnet 31 and the phrase "Farewell, thou art too dear for my possessing" was prominent. I think it was a historical mystery somehow...?

emilywhite

@megatherium There is a TINY chance that this is Norma Howe's "Blue Avenger Cracks the Code" (2000).

Spartacuss

This may go unseen, but it's a girl who goes to live in a mansion with her spinster aunts, and she visits the woods when she's lonely, and meets a magical boy with a flock of colored ponies. (COLORED PONIES!!!) I think he calls them with a flute?

KFo
KFo

@Spartacuss Season of Ponies? http://www.amazon.com/Season-Ponies-Zilpha-Keatley-Snyder/dp/084466376X

Spartacuss

@KFo YES. You are a super sleuth! I kept finding The Horse Boy, which is a touching story about autism, but not quiet what I had in mind. :) Thanks so much!

Leanne

1. A bratty 8 year old boy is obsessed with chocolate. Somehow gets a curse which causes everything he touches to turn to chocolate. He gets extremely sick of eating chocolate and is really thirsty all the time (even the water turns to chocolate!) and it like ruins his family's life and that's all I remember.

2. 15 year old girl has leukemia. I don't really remember anything else about this but the cover was a girl in a pink housecoat looking longingly out of a hospital room window. I think she was always getting bruised, like a peach, which was how the illness was discovered. She recovers, but maybe made a friend in the hospital who was not so lucky? Feels alienated from her non-sick friends.

3. 15 year old girl has rheumatoid arthritis. Was the popular cheerleader from the wrong side of the tracks, but the arthritis thing causes her to lose boyfriend, cheerleading captain status, and thus she is just a regular broad from the wrong side of the tracks. I feel like there may have been some graphic (to me) sex scenes in this book.

Why was I always reading about sick people.

Nicole Cliffe

2. Sounds Lurlene McDaniel-y?

Miss Kitty Fantastico

@Leanne #2 I definitely read that! I was OBSESSED with that book, whatever it was. I got diagnosed with cancer a few years ago and was like "SHAVE ALL OF MY HAIR OFF" because all I could think about was that scene in the book where she brushes her long, blond hair and it comes out in clumps, and that TRAUMATIZED me.

EKPinc

@Leanne #1 is the Chocolate Touch, I'm pretty sure!
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/88455.The_Chocolate_Touch

#3 sounds so familiar, I've definitely read it...can't help though.

TiggerHalsey

@Leanne #1 sounds like "The Chocolate Touch". Be careful what you wish for, children!

Leanne

@Madeline Shoes OMG. I am so sorry to hear about your illness. I hope you are in good health now.

I JUST FOUND IT. Thank you, Nicole.
#2 is, in fact, "Six Months to Live" by Lurlene McDaniel.
http://www.amazon.com/Months-Live-Mcdaniels-Lurlene-Rochelle/dp/1581960034

etheline.

@Leanne Does she have an older sister, who maybe gives her bone marrow?
I remember the bruising and bleeding gums as what tipped her off. Looking for these signs made me a tween hypochondriac.

Cowgirl Rose

@Nicole Cliffe "Six Months to Live" by Lurlene McDaniel?

Leanne

@EKPinc The Chocolate Touch!! What a strange, strange idea. Thank you.

Leanne

@Cowgirl Rose yessss! yay, everyone! I want to give you all a million hugs.

Miss Kitty Fantastico

@Leanne I'm in awesome health now, thanks!! Six Months to Live! That ushed in the "terminally ill kids" phase of my childhood fascinations. Followed closely, of course, by the "holocaust memoirs" phase. I was obviously a cheerful child.

ironhoneybee

@Leanne If you somehow missed out on "13 Is Too Young To Die" or "Lisa, Bright and Dark" in your teen years, they seem right up teen-you's alley!

Leanne

@Madeline Shoes I've just located book #3. She was a dancer, not a cheerleader, which kept tripping up my Googling.

Popular cheerleader Amber Lynn Harkin seems to have it all--a handsome boyfriend, Richmond Remington III, success as the star of a dance trio--but the secrets that she harbors could destroy everything.

http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/755238.Did_You_Hear_about_Amber_

Helvetica

@Leanne I read a book eerily similar to "Six Months to Live" and at first I thought you were talking about my book which is "Beyond the Rainbow" by Christine Marion Fraser. The plot seems very similar, except it takes place in the Hebrides but it might be the saddest book I've ever read. Also, since the protagonist there was losing weight which tipped them off about her cancer, I was seriously afraid of losing weight as a child.

littleoaks

@Leanne I somehow never got sucked into the Lurlene McDaniel oeuvre as a preteen, so I don't know anything about "Six Months to Live," BUT your memories of the cover track perfectly with "Too Soon to Say Goodbye": http://www.amazon.com/Too-Soon-Good-Bye-Deborah-Kent/dp/0590477986

savemethewaltz

@ironhoneybee In "Lisa Bright and Dark," does she walk through a sliding-glass door on purpose to get the attention of a friend's dad who is kind to her? If it's the same book I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO THINK OF THE NAME FOR YEARS!

Nicole Cliffe

OHHHH, Lisa Bright and Dark.

Better to Eat You With

@Leanne Yes! I remember this one. I was just trying to think of it upthread.

ironhoneybee

@Leanne Yes, that's the one!

Cowgirl Rose

An awkward girl with only one friend goes to summer camp where she's delighted to make friends with the two coolest girls there. She feels torn about letting an awkward girl (Fern, I believe) tag along with them. At the talent show, they sing a song to the tune of "Row, Row, Row Your Boat" dressed as cannibals with the nerdy girl in the pot.

EKPinc

@Cowgirl Rose I kind of doubt it, but have to check, could this be Yours Till Niagara Falls, Abby? Where she's supposed to go with her best friend, but then the best friend can't go so she has to do summer camp by herself?

http://www.amazon.com/Yours-Till-Niagara-Falls-Abby/dp/0142411515/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

Cowgirl Rose

@EKPinc nope, that's not the one.

Cowgirl Rose

@Cowgirl Rose I found it! "Buddies" by Barbara Park.

flanhoodles

@Cowgirl Rose OMG! I loved this book. That author also wrote a book about a really tall girl with no boobs that I really, really identified with. Called Beanpole, I think?

just reading in a boat no big deal

Oh, I totally need this for a movie! It was some sort of horror movie that I wasn't meant to see, but I watched it hiding behind our living room couch. It's about a serial killer who lures children into his ice cream truck (!) and then cuts their hands off so he can implant them on his daughter (!!!!!) because she has some disease. With the new hands, she is finally able to play piano. But the hands wear off after a while (?), and he has to kill again . . .

yeah-elle

@just reading in a boat no big deal Google tells me it's "When the Bough Breaks"...possibly?

just reading in a boat no big deal

@yeah-elle YES. Yes!!!!!! This is right. What is Martin Sheen doing in this movie??

Thanks!!

just reading in a boat no big deal

@yeah-elle YES. Yes!!! This is totally right. (Just saw that Martin Sheen was in it--wth???)

Thank you!!

HitchedUpKids

Okay, there was one that was a fantasy novel and there was a boy and a girl who were travelling together. At one point the girl falls asleep sitting down (or curled into a ball, I don't remember which all I remember is she slept weirdly) and the boy made fun of her for it. I have vague memories of a donkey and a chicken and the name Arcadia?

There was another one where there was a girl and then a strange girl joined her class but she dressed weirdly like an elf? Naturally they became friends and the new girl had to take care of her sick mother and she wanted her friend to help her, but she also made her believe in elves and they did stuff like build homes for them? And the first girl had gone grocery shopping to buy food for the girl with the sick mom and she didn't have enough money so she stole some Bologna. And then at the end of the story there was no sick mother and the new girl had been the elves and it was really weird and made very little sense.

MilesofMountains

@HitchedUpKids I think I remember the second one? I can't remember the name, though, or much else besides building the little elf houses.

EKPinc

@HitchedUpKids #1 has to be the Arkadians by Lloyd Alexander: http://www.amazon.com/The-Arkadians-Lloyd-Alexander/dp/0140380736

There's a poet who's turned into a donkey, and the girl and the boy travel together and it's a fantasy novel...

#2 sounds awful familiar too...

squishycat

@EKPinc Seconding The Arkadians - that's got to be it.

clarezebell

@HitchedUpKids Second one is Afternoon of the Elves by Janet Taylor Lisle

HitchedUpKids

@EKPinc @squishycat I'm pretty sure that's it, I'd probably have to read it to be 100% positive but it seems right.
@clarezebell That's totally it!
Thank you all so much, I've been half remembering these for years (which is odd seeing as I'm not that old but whatevs) and it was so frustrating that I couldn't remember.

Just kidding, I found the third one I had mentioned. It was Cinderellis and the Glass Hill by Gail Carson Levine.

TiggerHalsey

Oy, I have another one. It was a mystery, and the title had something to do with a scarlet macaw - maybe 'Something Something and the Case of the Scarlet Macaw'? Amazon seems to think there's a Nancy Drew book with scarlet macaw in the title, but I swear that's not it - is it possible there were other kid sleuths who were hunting for an exotic bird?

TiggerHalsey

@ironhoneybee I don't *think* so, but that also sounds amazing! The one I'm remembering definitely had kids as the protagonists. How many scarlet macaw books could there have possibly been?

Erin Sturm@twitter

@TiggerHalsey- Is it Have You Seen Hyacinth Macaw?
http://www.amazon.com/Have-You-Seen-Hyacinth-Macaw/dp/0440434505

Interrobanged

This is so far down, don't even care. Anyways I read this book CONSTANTLY when I was younger because it was vaguely sexy or something? There was this teenaged girl who lived next door (maybe?) to this other woman and her son, who was obvs the smouldering mysterious bad boy. And they were witches, but the boy was called a warlock because he was a dude (mentioned specifically). And then the girl ended up having to do some trance/spell thing in order to save . . . something. The cover was a reddish background and there was a dark-haired girl in a nightgown on it.

EKPinc

@Interrobanged Could that be the Changeover (http://www.amazon.com/Changeover-Margaret-Mahy/dp/0590412892/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1360354140&sr=1-1&keywords=the+changeover) one of my all-time favorite books??

It is very sexy in a non-sex sort of way. She's trying to save her little brother! And his name is Sorry! And he is definitely a mysterious bad boy...

Interrobanged

@EKPinc IT IS, YOU BEAUTIFUL PERSON.

Constantly re-reading books from the library for the sexy bits as a 12 year old, man, those were the days.

EKPinc

@Interrobanged YES, I did that toooo. The sexist was Not A Swan, by Michelle Magorian...She's a plain-looking aspiring writer, WWII, he's a bookstore owner with PTSD, they have SEX and she describes it like playing on the swings?

Just me?

Es
Es

@Interrobanged One of my favourite books EVER! read all her stuff, it's amazing.

Verity

@EKPinc That book is the best! I know it as A Little Love Song (US/UK title differences?).

Nikp

It has to be a YA novel (but maybe like a Young young adult). The main character has an eating disorder, but her friends in the book have their own books in the series. A new "wild" girl comes to town and makes fun of one of the friends because she's a "PK" (preacher's kid). Main character is home alone, fixes asparagus and hollandaise sauce, decides against it and has iced water instead.

May have been slightly Christian theme. I think I bought it at the Scholastic Book Fair, but I can't believe my school would have allowed them to sell an ED book to a 4th grader.

ETA: The cover was greenish brown with a blond girl's face. Come to think of it, I may be superimposing the "Number the Stars" girl on this book.

Valancy Stirling

@Nikp I'm coming to this extremely late, but that book is "When Is Perfect, Perfect Enough?" by Nancy Rue. I was definitely way too fascinated with ED narratives as a kid, and the scene with the asparagus and hollandaise really stuck with me. But I also thought the romance in it was really sweet and cute.

Nikp

@Inspector Spacetime That's it!! I've been asking about this book for more than half my life now. You are my hero! Also my soul sister since no one else I know read ED fiction, and you're validating me somehow. :)

Little Miss Bossy

Okay, this one is really bugging me now and my own internet sleuthing has turned up nothing. I think it's children's/YA (I read it in elementary school) but was really dark. It was set after the Second World War, possibly in N. America, and features this sad, strange girl and her neighbour who befriends her (forget what his deal is). She compulsively shreds paper because that's what she was doing when her father was killed/arrested by Nazis in France (I think he had architectural plans of the sewers to help people fight the Germans and/or escape France). She is hiding under the bed when her father is killed/arrested. Near the end it seems like she is getting better psychologically but then something triggers the horrible memories and it's left with her being uncommunicative and shredding again. Really sad.

stonefruit

@Little Miss Bossy Alan and Naomi! Alan and Naomi! One of my favorites (I was a cheery soul as a kid, apparently).

Also, this is the book that taught me how to say "bury the dead" in French. I have a vivid memory of writing about that in my diary in like 7th grade (the year I started taking French) and feeling very adult.

Little Miss Bossy

@stonefruit Yeeees! Thank you! It is now being ordered ... this thread is costing me so much money but it is totally worth it.

just reading in a boat no big deal

You'd think these very specific search words would help, but I've never been able to find a certain book of short stories about animals. I know it included a story in which someone owned a bulldog (or pug? I confuse the two), which got in a fight and one of his eyeball hanging out of his head by a tendon.

There was also a sort of love story, in which a man was unsuccessfully wooing this woman, up until her dog bit him (on the nose?). She applies iodine to his wound, and they bond over it.

Also, at some point, there's mention of either mongooses or pangolins. What is this????

Aphrodite

@just reading in a boat no big deal hmmmm.... something by James Herriot?

Miss Kitty Fantastico

This is the most amazing thread ever. I was a freak as a child - my mom would take my books away and make me go play with other kids so I wouldn't grow up to be a weirdo. So many memories rushing back!

yeah-elle

This is very possibly a Babysitter's Club book but I am not sure...but there is an older, cooler character (maybe a babysitter?) who only wears black and white clothing. And the younger character starts copying her by also doing the same thing, and when someone points it out, she's embarrassed. I doubt that was the whole plot of the story, but that's what I remember!

KFo
KFo

@yeah-elle All I can think of are the Sleepover Friends where Stephanie would only wear red black and white... Perhaps Patti's New Look, #4? Ha!

yeah-elle

@KFo Nope :( But thanks for trying! I'm pretty sure it was just a passing side-plot in an otherwise involved book...but I can't remember the rest of it at all!

Ten Thousand Buckets

@yeah-elle BSC: Stacey's Ex-Best Friend? Stacey might have attempted to copy Laine's New York fashion in that one, but I can't remember. I do remember that Laine thought it was babyish to wear red to a Valentine's dance, though.

Banana Stand Money

I think I was just a little too young to have been reading this series at 10-11, as it was pretty actually dark. I think it was contemporary (80s or 90s).

There was a family where the children had to fend for themselves, maybe the parents had died and the family who took them in were bad or poor? They had to fend for themselves from the supermarket week-old bins. They were always near beaches, or wishing they could be near the sea. Later in the series, the oldest girl had bought a boat that she was restoring with plans to sell it, and the rest of the family had . All the children had interesting names (because that's what the 80s were about), and were generally well-adjusted despite their being poor and homeless and having to fend for themselves.

EKPinc

@Banana Stand Money Pretty sure this Homecoming by Cynthia Voigt. The 4 siblings walk basically all down the east coast by themselves after being abandoned in a mall parking lot.

http://www.amazon.com/Homecoming-Tillerman-Cycle-Cynthia-Voigt/dp/1442428783/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1360355214&sr=1-1&keywords=homecoming+by+cynthia+voigt

Banana Stand Money

@EKPinc oh that is so exactly it! Dicey! Thank you! :-D

MissChanandlerBong

Okay I've been stressed out for literally the past 15 years of my life trying to remember these two books, someone please put me out of my misery:

1. It takes place over a very hot summer and involves a group of pre-teen boys whose sole mission in life is to see a girl topless. So they loiter outside a pool all day long (maybe playing football or frisbee or something?) hoping the hot girl who lays on her stomach with her bikini top untied (scandal!) will one day forget to re-tie her top before she sits up. So they try all kinds of tricks to get her to do that, like "accidentally" throwing their ball near her, spalshing her, etc. And I think at the end they're actually successful? (There HAD to be more of a plot than this but this is absolutely the only thing I remember from this book.)

2. A series of books set in a children's hospital. The storylines revolve around its various patients and teen volunteers. I think each book focused on a different child, all of whom were the victim of some horrific accident (I remember one fell off a ferris wheel and traumatized me for life). I think another dealt with a burn victim who was described as just having holes in her head for her mouth and nose, she'd been so badly scarred. (Why did I read these books?!)

TiggerHalsey

@MissChanandlerBong I'm only commenting to tell you how jealous I am of your name (please don't hate me for not being able to help with your book search!). That episode of Friends makes me laugh EVERY SINGLE TIME.

piggie

@MissChanandlerBong I've got no titles, but that first scene is in my head with super strong visuals, so I feel like it was a movie... Is that possible?

MissChanandlerBong

@TiggerHalsey Thanks! Every single episode of Friends makes me laugh every single time.

MissChanandlerBong

@piggie Sometimes when I try to describe this to people, they think I'm talking about the fake drowning/CPR/kiss scene in The Sandlot--is that what you're thinking of?

piggie

@MissChanandlerBong Yep, totally! Sorry, I'm no help at all.

Judith Slutler

@MissChanandlerBong This is so unhelpful but I've definitely read that first one. I think at the end of the book the nice but chubby girl comes back from camp all slimmed down and there is a bizarrely overly adult description of her curves? I swear that "sixth grade" is in the title of the book but I can't find it. This is driving me crazy!

aperson

@Emmanuelle Cunt Is the first one possibly The Biggest Klutz in Fifth Grade? I remember nothing about bikinis, but that part at the end where the girl comes back from camp all sexy rings a bell.

MissChanandlerBong

@aperson WAIT I THINK THAT'S IT you guys are the best

Spinsters Get Up For Breakfast

There are these two sisters and one of them is very very quiet and people can't see her a lot? Like one time she is sitting in a chair with a doll in her lap and her grandma can only see the doll or something because she's so plain or quiet or something? So then she decides to live in the walls of the house somehow and nobody in her family remembers that she used to exist and she spies on them the whole time from the walls of the house and she teaches herself to be an amazing seamstress. One day when she's a teenager she starts leaving notes for some guy (maybe her sister brings a friend into the house?) that she has a crush on and she sews him a shirt that he doesn't understand is for him or something. And then her sister has a costume party? And rediscovers the invisible sister? And makes her come to the party and the invisible sister is like "fine I'll come as a moth so i can blend in" and the other sister is like "ok if you let me pick what kind of moth" and searches through the encyclopedia and finds a neon green moth for the sister to be. So she goes to the party as a neon green moth and dances with the guy she has a crush on even though there is no music playing.

The logistics of the book really confused me.

MissChanandlerBong

@Spinsters Get Up For Breakfast Isn't it just called The Woman in the Wall? And it confused (and also horrified) me too.

melmuu

Do you guys remember a book about a group of girls who meet at some fancy ballet boarding academy, and one of them, her name is Luz, is anorexic, but no one realizes it for most of the book, and I think she actually ends up dying at the end? At least I think she's anorexic, but I could be mixing it up with something else. She definitely becomes very very ill. Also, something about jelly donuts.

Elsajeni

@melmuu I do remember that book! Do you think it could be Maggie Adams, Dancer? None of the reviews mention anything about Luz, but the cover shown here looks really familiar to me and I do feel like the title was along the lines of "[Girl's Name], Dancer".

melmuu

@Elsajeni Omg, I think it was that one! Good Googling skills!

wordnerd

@Elsajeni I remember this, too! And yep, that's the one. I had the same cover and everything.

Dandyliongirl

There is a book that is LIKE Tom's Midnight Garden except that there is a girl as a main character and possibly there isn't actually any time travel? But there is some sort of night time adventure and she lives in a valley and also there is something to do with white flowers. Also some sort of conflict about sneaking out to meet someone.

(Also while I'm on the subject who else loved Tom's Midnight Garden and wanted Hattie to be their best friend?)

Es
Es

@Dandyliongirl Moondial?

Dandyliongirl

@Es Yes! I am so glad someone has been able to identify this one! :D :D :D

C_Webb

@Dandyliongirl ME.

Aphrodite

@Dandyliongirl SUCH a good book!!!

Es
Es

@Dandyliongirl Hurrah! (It's one that I reread quite often.)

AnnaLee

Help with two books that nobody but me checking out from my local library? (!)

1. A Canadian trilogy of books set during WWII, a girl sitting under a table possibly on the cover of one, and her name may have been Kit...there is a slight possibility that fairy worlds were also somehow involved.

2. A children's fantasy novel about Jack the Giant Killer, with a detailed watercolor drawing on the cover of the giant (with a huge nose, I think)--it mixed modern and fantasy fairy-tale worlds and was so great.

EKPinc

@AnnaLee #1 Ok, I'm pretty sure the AUTHOR's name is Kit -- Kit Pearson, the Guests of War trilogy?

http://www.amazon.com/The-Sky-Falling-Guests-Trilogy/dp/0143056344/ref=ntt_at_ep_dpt_4

AnnaLee

@EKPinc Yay!! The real question though is did I just IMAGINE fairies in this book??

emilywhite

@AnnaLee Definitely no fairies in the War Guests trilogy, but maybe you're remembering Kit Pearson's "Awake and Dreaming" and/or "A Handful of Time," which both had magical, dreamlike elements.

OhMarie

@OhMarie You guys, and each boss's hairline gets farther and farther back! This book is clearly the greatest.

does it need saying

I know I am so late to the party but I have one that has been bugging me for years.
There is a school bus full of children and they get kidnapped and (somehow?) end up in a buried school bus with some supplies and an adult kidnapper. They get rescued at the end but they are super sick and whatnot from the kidnapping. I think maybe some die???
ETA: Holy Crap, I think I read a book about a real thing
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/man-kidnapped-26-children-chowchilla-school-bus-demanded-ransom-released-prison-article-1.1100686

mel
mel

@does it need saying From the Wiki entry on the event: "After the children were recovered, it was observed that some circumstances of the abduction corresponded to details in "The Day the Children Vanished", a story written by Hugh Pentecost that had been published in the 1969 fiction anthology Alfred Hitchcock's Daring Detectives. A copy of this book was in the Chowchilla public library; police theorized that this was the real-life kidnappers' inspiration."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1976_Chowchilla_kidnapping

does it need saying

@mel (o.O) I remembered the pictures on the site when I saw them. The weird part is, I couldn't have been but 10 ish when I read it in the 80's. So I was reading a sort of current event at the time.

litothela

Ahhh! Best thread ever.

The one I'm looking for I've also been thinking about for years. It involves a guy (maybe a group of people) who is/are transported to a certain realm and there are faeries (I remember vividly reading that word, not fairies) and they have to fight a giant worm creature at some point maybe? They also all get cool swords and armour.

It's possible it was a young adult-ish fantasy novel. I feel like it may have been a series of two or more books, but that detail is unclear....

Anyone?! So vague =(

alicke

@litothela this sounds like hunters moon!? mentioned upthread! maybe!

stonefruit

Okay, I am the absolute latest. But. This was probably a book from the 70s/80s, I remember taking out of my elementary school library well before I should have, and it involved kids at a school getting hypnotized/sinisterly brainwashed? and the hero thought something was up because all his friends started acting different and their eyes were like little pinpricks, so to keep from getting hypnotized in class one day he stuck himself in the hand with a pencil/sharp tack/needle? and the hypnotizer was some evil man on a tv screen?

Oh help.

squishycat

@stonefruit That sounds *so familiar* and yet I have no idea what it could be. Argh!

teletexed

@stonefruit The Demon Headmaster, by Gillian Cross?

stonefruit

@teletexed oh my gosh, I think so! I had no idea it was a series, I was totally freaked out by the first book and never looked to see if there were more. Thank you!

cabber

This is a bit random, but I went on my own "I can't remember this book" internet journey a few weeks ago and was successful, but turns out the series I remembered so fondly were these Christian-themed mysteries, which seems like an odd choice for my decidedly non-religious younger self and/or non-religious parents who would have to have been the purchasers. Whatever, mysteries!

squishycat

Oh man, I have one that has been bugging me for years upon years, and since it's been so long I have very, very little to go on. I am pretty sure the protagonist is a boy? And the book is set contemporaneously. I remember a barrel of pickles in the cellar, and a mandrake root with nails stuck in it, and there's some connection between the pickle barrel and the mandrake root, though the mandrake is also buried under the roots of a tree at some point? And there's a dog and maybe a cat involved, and the boy's ... uncle? I seem to remember the cover having a picture of the boy running, and the border being blue, but covers aren't always helpful. There's definitely whole lot of black magic and moonlight and weirdness. And pickle barrels.

Lu2
Lu2

I wish I could be of more help on this thread, but a huge number of lost books are about magic and ghosts and kidnappings and rooms that turn into time machines ... stuff I never got into! Sorry, everyone.

squishycat

@squishycat Ok, I have another that's not necessarily YA, and is also a short story (I think) rather than a book. I could have sworn it was in my huge anthology of "cat crimes" (mystery/crime short stories involving cats in some way), but it's not. I do remember strongly that there was a cat, and the cat was probably the narrator or at least the POV character. The weirdest part is that the details of the story are almost exactly the details of the poisonings of the family in "We Have Always Lived in the Castle", but I know (despite the fact that there is a cat in the book) that it's not that, since I didn't read the book until a few years ago, and I read the story ages ago. What *is* it?

AnnaLee

@squishycat @squishycat Not positive, but could this be one of the Diana Wynne Jones children's fantasy novels? Possibly "Lives of Christopher Chant"? There is definitely an uncle and a cat and black magic, plus the cover description sounds very familiar to me...

squishycat

@AnnaLee Maybe? I'm a big fan of Diana Wynne Jones, but that's one that I haven't actually read (at least that I recall). It doesn't feel quite right for the book as I remember it, though? Like, it was a book I read in the library and I feel like it was that standard sort of cheap-squarish-paperback that a lot of kids' books were printed as? And all the Diana Wynne Jones I've read has been thicker than that and more mass-market paperback shaped, if it wasn't hardcover. idk

Uncommon Hussy

@squishycat Was one of the other stories in the book about a guy whose wife gets a cat with a really long tail and the guy gets angry and jealous of how much his wife likes this cat and kills it and cuts its tail off and sticks it in the cat's mouth? And then he's talking to a police officer and shows them the cat's body, only the body not a cat but a man, and it's not a tail in his mouth? Because I definitely read some book of cat mysteries with that story in it as a teenager, and I have no idea what the book was called, but I remember that story being weird as fuck.

squishycat

@Uncommon Hussy O_o no, nothing like that happens in any of the stories. I am really intrigued now, though...

Circadia

@squishycat I can confirm that there is a mandrake root in Diana Wynne Jones's "Howl's Moving Castle," and a dog that is actually a man, but I don't remember any of these other things.

KFo
KFo

For #3--A Traveller in Time? Not exactly Arthurian, but maybe...

FrancisAbernathy

This may be too obscure, but it stuck with me so I'll give it a shot. There's a short story from a book of either African folk tales or newly made up African-styled folktales, about a mouse who hears beautiful music playing at the top of a mountain and braves many dangers to climb to the source of the music. And he's pursued by a lion (could be a tiger, but I think it's a lion) who catches him and demands that he sacrifice either his sight or his hearing. He chooses his sight, so that he can continue to hear the music, and then, blinded, runs on to complete his journey. He gets to the top of the mountain and is enraptured by the music, and then discovers that not only has his site returned, but now HE is the lion. It's...a metaphor, or something. Anyway, has anyone read it?

temporal_paradox

@FrancisAbernathy No, but if anyone does, I want to read that book!

Gogus

Bit late to the party but does anyone remember the following:

1. A fantasy book with two main characters - one was a girl who was half air elemental and had blue skin and the other was a guy who was half elven and they were kind of outcasts because they were half-breeds. I think they worked as thieves or something and they had been a team for ages but there was kind of a thing between them/developing over the course of the book. I think the elf guy could log on to some magic web thing to navigate. I thought the name was something like immortals and that it was Tamora Pierce but don't think so.

2. A book about a young boy (7 or 8 maybe) who is blind/went blind and who got a white West Highland terrier who helped him reconcile himself to being blind? Also sometimes get it confused with a book/story about a boy called Paul? who was blind because his mother had rubella when she was pregnant and they drove into a cloud and he could feel the air and someone may have played the violin. I think that's a different one though.

Ring any bells at all?

squishycat

@Gogus #1 definitely does not sound like any Tamora Pierce (The Immortals *is* the name of one of her quartets, but that is not the plot *at all*), at least, not any of her novels.

Gogus

@squishycat I definitely don't think it's Tamora Pierce, because I know I only read the Circle books, I think I was confusing Immortals and Elementals. I can see the cover but can't articulate it if that makes sense?

Cat named Virtute

@Gogus 2 sounds like a Jean Little book, though she's written so many. Maybe start there?

Gogus

@Cat named Virtute It sounds like it might be Mine for Keeps - I really got the gender wrong though! Now to find it and find out.

Gogus

@Gogus I think I've found #1! I think it's Healer's Quest by Jessica Palmer
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Healers-Quest-Renegade-Jessica-Palmer/dp/1594264686

I swear the cover was less tacky when I read it!

piggie

There's a preteen or early teens protagonist. She likes baseball? And in one scene she goes to Woolworths and tries on a Merry Widow, which cuts her beloved locket in half? Blah, blah, other stuff too, probably, but naturally the lingerie scene is what stuck.

KFo
KFo

@piggie The Highest Hit! http://www.amazon.com/The-Highest-Hit-Nancy-Willard/dp/0152342796

Julie Called Birdy

Hello! I think this is my first time posting. Please make this thread a weekly event! I've been able to recall lots of good books so far thanks to you ladies!

This one is about a little boy that gets lost/runs away and ends up living with armadillos, maybe? Some animals. He's injured for some reason and they clean his wounds by licking them and later he licks one of the female's wounds when she gets hurt.

The other is a story about a girl that has a dollhouse with a family of dolls. One of the dolls is a baby. I think she gets turned into one, and is trying to change back but they won't let her. It may or may not have had creepy illustrations.

hopelessshade

@Julie Called Birdy I can only assume you wish you were named Catherine. I loved the shit out of that book as a kid...

But no, I got nothing on your unknown books :C

Little Miss Bossy

@Julie Called Birdy Not sure if this thread is still alive but perhaps you are remembering "Among the Dolls" (http://www.amazon.ca/Among-The-Dolls-William-Sleator/dp/052525563X/ref=sr_1_70?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1360536771&sr=1-70)? I remember creepy illustrations, especially a rubber doll with a missing eye ... but this is the doll that ends up helping her escape?

Clarisse McClellan

These are pretty vague but I have to try because they've been making me crazy for so long.

1) The characters are all dolls or toys, but I don't think they were dolls who come to life when the humans are sleeping or anything like that. They live on a ship. There is one character who either wears skivvies or is named Skivvy. The cover was blue I think and it was a pretty thick book. There might have been a character called Alice or Allie.

2) I remember almost nothing about the story except that it was a chapter book about a girl as she grows up through all the stages of life. The part I remember was that every few pages there was an illustration of her at the next stage of life and her hair was amazing. I think the illustrations were pencil drawings. Her hair was long and red, maybe. She had thick braids and was wearing a long nightgown in one of the pictures.

EKPinc

@Clarisse McClellan Ugh, I can PICTURE #1. And I know exactly where it is on the shelf of my hometown library!

...I know that doesn't actually help at all.

EKPinc

@Clarisse McClellan for #1, was there also a scene where the doll had to sew her eyes back in or something along those lines? And there was a love story...I remember it taking place in England I think.

Clarisse McClellan

@EKPinc That sounds familiar. I think the main doll was made of rags. The characters were kind of mean to each other, or maybe they all hated one of the dolls.

EKPinc

@Clarisse McClellan This is the one I was thinking of: Amy's Eyes!

http://www.amazon.com/Amys-Eyes-Richard-Kennedy/dp/0060232196

I'm excited now.

Clarisse McClellan

@EKPinc YES!! That's it! Thank you! At least I remembered the A initial in the name.

alicke

@Clarisse McClellan Amy's Eyes is the most amazing! they had to read to the dolls to make them turn real/alive! This thread is the bestttt

solvingaproblemlikemaria

This is incredibly niche and most likely came from the Mormon bookstore growing up (Desert Press ftw) but all I remember is that a group of youth (or family?) goes camping and the youngest one washes her hair with either WATERMELON or STRAWBERRY shampoo and a bear eats her scalp off in the night.
I vaguely refer to this incident every so often when discussing shampoo but am unsure if I completely made it up or not. Verify?

LOVE this post, btw. And all the crazy plotlines outlined above.

lauren.elizabeth

For a friend (and yes, this sounds super strange, but now I want to read it):

ok i have one. this was older - it was in the young adult hallway of my town library - set in a post-industrial society? they were agrarian of some kind, and the mom was a vet who specialized in putting down animals, because she loved them? And the girl, our heroine, loved machines and so she had to kill them?

alicia

OH MY GOD NICOLE I have been thinking about Fourteen and Holding all day today for ABSOLUTELY NO REASON. I haven't thought of that book in about ten years. This is uncanny.

What a great book/series, though! I have so many weird memories of it that ... I'm not sure they're all from the same book, but the fortune-telling machine on the boardwalk! The car accident! Coke floats for breakfast! Disney sketches! The creepy lockermate! Ahhhh.

antipretty

This is the best thread.

I have two books I'm trying to remember, if anyone knows I'd love to hear!

The first series I'm thinking of was published in the late '90s. Was centred around a group of teens and something to do with the year 2000; all the adults were dead (maybe?) and teenagers were left. I think the book was set in 1999 and every month was a new book. Lilith/Delilah (actual biblical Lilith/Delilah) had something to do with the storyline of one of the guy characters.

The second series was set in Australia, a bunch of teens living in the outback have to deal with Australia being invaded by...some other country. They become rebel fighters and I remember being SHOCKED that the author actually killed protagonists.

Any ideas?

WaitUp!

@antipretty Second one is the Tomorrow Series by John Marsden! (Starts off with Tomorrow, When the War Began)

emilywhite

@antipretty The first one sounds like Countdown: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Countdown_(novel_series)

17th Floor

OH OH OH. Someone help me. YA Novel. Some kids - maybe brother sister - get sent to a fantasy type land. They meet up with other travelers, and one of them is a warrior girl. They go to this tower where some evil (maybe a witch) grants them all "wishes", but she gives the warrior girl a super beautiful face which really distresses her because she can't be a warrior and pretty. WHAT THE HELL BOOK IS THIS?!?!

WaitUp!

OOH! I am way too late to this party, but:

1. Young girl moves to an apartment block with mother and older brother (don't think there's a father), it is a very hot summer, either they're in Germany or she's kind of obsessed with Nazis somehow (?) to the point of maybe thinking her elderly neighbour is one [again (?)], she is also very worried about getting athlete's foot and details drying between her toes. Her older brother gets sick, and then has to work under a UV lamp when he's getting better (which tans the back of his neck), and also has a girlfriend the young girl doesn't like at first but later warms to.

2. Little girl has an older sister and they have kind of a Ramona/Beezus dynamic except I feel like it's set in an earlier time period? Either it's a series of books or goes through assorted vignettes, one of which is the little girl crashing her older sister's slumber party where they eat pizza pies with cold glasses of milk, and another of which is her going with her mum to buy a new Easter coat. SOMETHING ELSE MUST HAPPEN THOUGH. Maybe.

HELP MY BRAIN?

emilywhite

@WaitUp! Nazi-neighbour is totally "Starring Sally J. Friedman As Herself," by the illustrious Judy Blume.

WaitUp!

@emilywhite YES! I was getting some really very interesting search results when combining the terms 'athlete's foot' and 'nazi'. Thank you!!

lucy snowe

@WaitUp! #2-- could those be the Amy and Laura books?

There were a few. Laura is quieter, bookish, long brown hair, Amy is sportier, I think, and blond. Their mom gets hit by a car after slipping on ice in one of the stories-- but she is the heart of the family, and i think they did stuff like shop together before Mom got hurt.

Sorry. That's a vague memory.

WaitUp!

@lucy snowe Not the Amy and Laura books I don't think - the older sister in the one I'm thinking of was kind of cool in a refined snooty way instead of a sporty boisterous way, and I don't think anything near as dramatic as mum being hit by a car occurred, it was a pretty gentle kind of a thing. I just read some reviews of the Amy and Laura ones, though, and I may now have to read them.

lucy snowe

@WaitUp! I think I might need to (re)read them, too.
As for the mother' accident, IIRC it was something that certainly affected them all, but it wasn't treated like a big drama-- more something that changed their lives, that happened mostly offstage.

Sorry I couldn't help your search!

wordnerd

@emilywhite Sally J. Friedman! So good! Everyone please re-read, it will totally brighten your day/week/life.

aubrey!

So this wasn't YA, it's an adult book, but I read it when I was about 14. I think it's set during the Cold War? And it might have been written then, too. A guy lives in a town in Texas or somewhere warm with his brother and his brother's family. While his brother is away, some sort of disaster (nuclear bomb?) happens and they assume he's dead. His brother's wife hits on him because she needs a man to provide for her children (ugh). The main character falls in love with this lady who moved into town with her rich family, and this lady's mom dies after the disaster because she's diabetic and she can't get insulin. There's also a monologue from the main character about boobs men and legs men and what that signifies. (Apparently, if you like boobs, you are into maternal women.)

...Why did I read this when I was 14? Anyways, it's been bugging me for years.

AOpp

@aubrey! Kind of late to the party, but I'm guessing that's "Alas, Babylon" by Pat Frank.

aubrey!

@AOpp Thank you! That's it! And if it's some sort of classic, that explains why I was reading it. Don't know how I got Texas and Florida mixed up, though.

ellochka

Thought of another one. It's about a girl who moves from I think Romania to Israel and thinks she's going to live with her maybe estranged father, but ends up a semi-orphan on a kibbutz instead. She lives in a big dorm with other kids in a similar situation, and sometimes her dad comes to get her for, like, ice cream, but he gets a new girlfriend and there is conflict.

What I really remember is that on the kibbutz they were only allowed to cover half of their toothbrushes with the thinnest coating of toothpaste possible.

Lisa Frank

@ellochka Was this book in Hebrew or English? The closest thing I can think of is Terracotta Ovens of My Childhood, but that's a memoir about a family that immigrates to Israel after the Holocaust and lives on a kibbutz. I don't think there's anything about toothpaste though.

ellochka

@Lisa Frank It was in English. It was a mass-market kind of deal, definitely fiction.

Lisa Frank

@ellochka Was it Lydia, Queen of Palestine?
http://www.amazon.com/Lydia-Queen-Palestine-Puffin-Book/dp/0140370897

ellochka

@Lisa Frank YES! Thank you!!! Ahhhh! So satisfying! I've been wondering about that forever.

Every time I tried to search for it ("romania israel kibbutz child book"), all I got were booking websites for kibbutzim.

Greenlight This Duh@twitter

I can't, for the life of me, find this series, and I will eat my hat if anyone can help me with it. I've tried every type of Google search for years.

The series revolves around a girl from a poor/poorish family, and I think in the first book she lives in this one bedroom house, with her mom and dad, and her bedroom is in this loft-style bedroom (she literally has to climb a ladder to get up there, and she has a dog too that climbs up there with her). Anyway, they end up moving to an old Victorian, which they slowly are renovating or something. Her mother might be pregnant or something like that.

ARGHHHH so important to my life

emilywhite

@Greenlight This Duh@twitter This is quite possibly the Anastasia Krupnik series, except they move from a small apartment to the lovely suburban Victorian where she gets her town. Her mom is pregnant with her brother Sam in the first book, and they move in the second book.

Aphrodite

@emilywhite OH MY GOD I HAVE TOTALLY READ THIS!!! No idea what it's called though! Sorry!

James McPherson@facebook

I seem to remember a story about a room that was alive. The walls moved, as did the floors and ceiling. Illustrated by Edward Gorey, perhaps? Or maybe I just smoked one too many joints...

emilywhite

@James McPherson@facebook This sounds like it would be something by John Bellairs--Gorey illustrated a few of his novels.

alicia

OH I do have one I have a question about. This was a book about a young girl (probably... eleven or twelve) whose name I'm fairly certain was Tasha? The situation was that her parents had just had quintuplets (whom they always called "the quints") and she was dealing with all the upheaval that came with that, including their house constantly being filled with people from a television channel trying to film them. There was a scene where neither of her parents were going to be able to come to her piano(?) recital; at the last minute her dad tried to sneak in with two of the babies but when one of them started crying he had to leave. I think their family was implied to be lower-class - there was also a scene where a rich girl befriended her and took her shopping, where the rich girl's mother offered to buy Tasha an expensive top she wanted, but she made herself say no out of pride?

EKPinc

@alicia could it be this one? http://www.amazon.com/Sister-Quints-Stella-Pevsner/dp/B000J4YOWM

alicia

@EKPinc POSSIBLY. I've looked at some bits from that on Google Books and it doesn't seem quite right, but the title definitely sounds familiar. Luckily they have it at a library here, so I'll go give it a look! Thanks!

anotherkate

Nicole, is there any chance your third book is Crusade In Jeans?

Nicole Cliffe

Noooo. I live in hope that an answer will come!

Aphrodite

PLEASE HELP. I have been googling this for YEARS and can't figure out what it is!

This boy lives with his grandfather in NYC, and he's like a plumber or a sewage worker or something, and there is this mythical threatening giant alligator (almost dragon-like thing!) living in the sewer and the grandpa has always told the little boy about it but no one thinks it's real, but it turns out it IS real and the boy has to vanquish it? And I'm pretty sure it kills the grandpa? The book has a cartoon-y type illustration of the boy and the giant gator thing on the front, and the monster is called something like "kinderflax" or something (funny word, started with a K I'm pretty sure).

PLEASE PLEASE someone have read this!!!! It's been driving me crazy for YEARS AND YEARS!

littlevicious

@Aphrodite Is it 'Krindlekrax' by Philip Ridley?

Aphrodite

@littlevicious OH MY GOD YES. Wow, this is amazing!!! You have now idea how many times I have tried to figure out this book title. Thank you SO SO SO MUCH!!!

wordnerd

Can we do this every week? This is the best. THE BEST. Okay. Mine is a girl, early high school, who is redecorating her room. She has two (?) older sisters and this is some kind of coming-of-age ritual in her family, picking out how you want to redecorate your room. She talks about soft, glowing colors, and this is the book that taught me what a flokati rug is, and that clearly I need one in my life. Also, she doesn't have many friends, but starts to get secret notes from a mystery friend at school. There might be a boy? The boy might be the secret friend? The secret friend might be black and that is a plot point? I mainly remember the flokati rug and the mystery messages. Please help!

stonefruit

@wordnerd Oh my lord, I absolutely read this one, but I can't remember what it's called either! Just know that you're not alone - the soft, glowing colors stuck in my head too!

stonefruit

@wordnerd Also, any chance it's a Barthe DeClements book? For some reason I went on a tear and read all her stuff around the same time as the book you're thinking of, so they're kind of blending together now.

wordnerd

@stonefruit Hmmm.... I have investigated Barthe DeClements and I do not think I have read any of those, nor do any seem to match our mysterious Apartment-Therapy-approved home decor novel. But I am glad to know you remember this, too! Incidentally, what kind of name is Barthe? Bart+Martha-Barf=?

stonefruit

@wordnerd French, perhaps? Or, like, a Southern (specifically Charleston) family name maybe?

jennastra

So mine is a YA book about this girl who is like a slave on this weird winter planet (like earth post-nuclear winter) and the whole economy is based on finding and burning coal. She discovers she has some divining power to find coal and towards the end she leads a revolution where people stop burning coal and just will themselves to be warm. Anyone have any guesses? I would love to figure out what the heck it's called.

Aphrodite

@jennastra Winter of Fire?

jennastra

@Aphrodite AHH that's totally it although the amazon review made it sound way less awesome than I remember it...whatever I'm buying it anyways

wordnerd

@Aphrodite Yes! Elsha! She was awesome and she totally overthrew the class system AND the sexism of the high priests. Good shit.

Ten Thousand Buckets

@jennastra That is one of my favorite YA books ever. Definitely get a new copy.

wordnerd

ALSO! There is a motel, in Florida, that may be painted pink. Lots of interesting people come to stay in the hotel, and there is a weathervane that has something to do with the mystery plot. There may be a dapper grandfather-type in a Cadillac.

harrypotter4422

@wordnerd

This? I used to love this book.

http://www.amazon.com/Pink-Motel-Carol-Ryrie-Brink/dp/068971677X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1360392159&sr=1-1&keywords=the+pink+motel

stonefruit

@wordnerd Apparently you and I read all the same books when we were little. There was something about coconut shells, right?

EKPinc

@stonefruit @wordnerd Love the Pink Motel! There was a lot about coconuts, and also ladyfingers, and alligators!

wordnerd

@bishopsbird Thanks y'all! This is so exciting! Although now I feel a little silly that I couldn't figure this one out.

harrypotter4422

@stonefruit Don't worry about it. I'm excited to find someone else who has read this. My memories are pretty hazy, but I think that lots of funny guests come to the hotel, and then they solve a mystery, right? And it's dated in a really fun way.

peanutty

Does anyone remember a book about a kid called Conrad who came in a can, and was decanted? I don't remember anything else...

Gogus

@peanutty Hey, it's not Konrad by Christine Nostlinger is it?

"When Mrs. Bartolotti receives a package from a mysterious factory containing a perfect 7-year-old, she doesn’t remember ordering him. Still, she and Konrad get along very well despite the fact that he is a perfect boy and she is anything but a perfect mother. Although he is too well-behaved for her wacky tastes, they quickly become very fond of each other. But trouble looms when the factory notifies Mrs. Bartolotti that Konrad was shipped to her by mistake and they want him back."

They seem to have made a TV movie of it as well: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0167240/

peanutty

@Gogus Yay! That is the one, I was mispelling Konrad when searching - thank you!

zeytin

I hope people are still reading this thread! I have one!

The memory is so hazy... the kid/ kids get lost/ transported in a garden maze? And maybe end up at the quaint house of an old lady who makes quaint recipes/ spells? The thing I remember clearly is that at the end of the book there was a recipe for rose balls of some sort? Not sure if it was an edible thing or a fragrant thing or what.... God this sounds like I dreamed it, doesn't it?

Bebe

@zeytin it's not The Secret Garden is it?

zeytin

@Bebe No, unfortunately not, I know that one like the back of my hand. Thanks though!

zeytin

@zeytin Self- update! After some more assiduous googling I found it on the Loganberry books lost books page! It is Lavender-Green Magic by Andre Norton.

This is the beginning of the description:
Eleven-year-old Holly Wade and her twin siblings, Judy and Crockett, are sent to live with their grandparents in the small town of Dimsdale, Massachusetts when their father is declared missing in action in Vietnam. Dimsdale is nothing like Boston; there are only two other African-American children in the entire school...

I don't remember any of those details. I don't know about anyone else, but I find it interesting that these books often have a socio-political context that goes completely over the kid's head (or into it?) Like, I re-read Bridge to Terabithia a few years ago, only remembering that it made me cry when I read it as a child, and it had this socio-political background that I had completely forgotten about.

I also read these books probably before I should have because when my brother, who is three years older, was assigned books, I would read them when he was done. So I think I read Bridge to Terabithia in either 2nd or 3rd grade, which is maybe too young? I don't know.

zeytin

@zeytin I just checked out the author and she sounds rad:

Born February 17, 1912 in Cleveland, Ohio, Alice Mary Norton has always had an affinity to the humanities. She started writing in her teens, inspired by a charismatic high school teacher. First contacts with the publishing world led her, as many other contemporary female writers targeting a male-dominated market, to choose a literary pseudonym. In 1934 she legally changed her name to Andre Alice. The androgynous Andre doesn't really say "male" to English speaking readers, even though it is a man's name in other languages (i.e. Norwegian). She also used the names Andrew North and Allen Weston as pseudonyms.
....
Often called the Grande Dame of Science Fiction and Fantasy by biographers such as J. M. Cornwell and organizations such as Science Fiction and Fantasy Writers of America, Publishers Weekly, and Time, Andre Norton wrote novels for over 70 years. She had a profound influence on the entire genre, having over 300 published titles read by at least four generations of science fiction and fantasy readers and writers.

http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/4766.Andre_Norton

savemethewaltz

When I started reading this thread I had 3 mystery books in mind, but now that I have scrolled all the way through I am down to only 1, so thanks everyone!

Last one: Protagonist is an adolescent girl. A slightly older girl (15 years old or so) moves in (next door?) during summer and the older girl has all these glamorous stories about her life in whatever town she's from. Older boyfriend, lots of friends, etc. But it turns out she is like a compulsive liar and maybe a kleptomaniac also? And no one loves her etc.

Also the protagonist gets a job taking care of (maybe reading to?) an old man for the summer and he's super crotchety and I think she makes him cold soup, like a cold cucumber soup, and he's a dick about it like "whoever heard of cold soup?" but then he eats it because he is really not so bad underneath his grouchy exterior.

HELP!

lucy snowe

@savemethewaltz This rings vague, useless bells for me. I hope someone knows.

EKPinc

@savemethewaltz Could it be "Doesn't Anybody Care about Lou Emma Miller?". The first part sounds like it, the second doesn't really...

http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1765971.Does_Anybody_Care_About_Lou_Emma_Miller_

savemethewaltz

@lucy snowe Me too! It's driving me nuts!

savemethewaltz

@EKPinc No, that's not the one, but thank you for suggesting it! I'm sure there are plenty of books that roughly match the first part of my description. Argh!

parthenope

@savemethewaltz Does the older girl next door pretend to be married? If so, I think this might be _The Summer of Mrs MacGregor_ by Betty Ren Wright.

savemethewaltz

@parthenope YES! Yes yes yes yes! You are a genius! Thank you so much! I LOVE this thread!

parthenope

@savemethewaltz Yay!!! I remember the cover very vividly - "Mrs MacGregor" on a lawn chair in a bikini, looking sexy and kind of bored...

lucy snowe

@savemethewaltz Yay!!! Thanks, parthenope!

Azaz the Unabridged

I doubt people are looking at this anymore but...here goes!
Okay, so there's this girl who starts working at a library one summer and finds an old trunk with these Punch and Judy type puppets. She shows the elderly librarian and they decide to put on little shows to bring more kids in. There's a devil puppet too, and he's TERRIFYING. Turns out he can like, possess or influence his puppeteers to do his evil bidding. Or something like that. And a sinister magician/deadly children kidnappish trick subplot? Not sure of the the publication date. I read it for the first time in 5th grade and then again in 7th because I needed some time off due to the NIGHTMARES it caused! Anywho, it mysteriously disappeared from the library system and has subsequently haunted my dreams for a good ten years now. I seem to remember there being a sequel I was too afraid to read!

Erin Sturm@twitter

@Azaz the Unabridged - Is it Painted Devil by Michael Bedard?
http://www.amazon.ca/Painted-devil-Michael-B%C3%A9dard/dp/0689318278/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1360463475&sr=1-1

lucy snowe

@Azaz the Unabridged I think you'd remember if it were this (and in this one, the main character's a boy) but it reminded me of a favorite-- "The Tragical Comedy or Comical Tragedy of Mr. Punch" by Neil Gaiman, illus. Dave Kean.

Very important book in my personal lexicon/library, that one...

darklingplain

Two books, if anyone is still reading the comments:

1) There was a princess from a kingdom where people could alter the world just by thinking about it, but most people, except her, had agreed not to. She's betrothed to a guy from a place where everyone can talk to animals, I think? And there's this scary villain that turns out to be her from the future.

2) I remember very little about the second book, except that at the end the girl and her mother discover a herd of prehistoric horses with manes like zebras.