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Wednesday, February 6, 2013

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Jane Marie, What's Actually in Your Makeup Bag Right Now?

This is the closest we're ever gonna get to a haul video, y'all. Enjoy it!

Already, I have a huge caveat: this question is forcing me to ignore the giant, currently disheveled makeup case that has single-handedly saved my bathroom from ruin. When I first got it, I thought I'd probably dip into it every day, but it's turned out to serve more as a storage unit for samples, doubles, and things I don't use that often.

Here's a brief summary of what you'll find in there: glittery crap, fake eyelashes, off-season shades of foundation, aubergine and neon pink lipsticks, brushes galore, broken/messy stuff I still love but don't want to spill all over the place, light blue eye shadow, and products I don't really like or ever use, but can't throw away for reasons including I keep thinking I'll give them to my sister, but she lives in Nashville and I live in LA and I am not as good as I want to be about mailing boxes to people. 

 

As for my actual makeup bag, it's not even a single bag. I keep makeup in three places:

– A certifiable makeup bag I got from Prescriptives years ago which holds mostly tools and dry things that don't have to go in a Ziploc when I fly.

– A Ziploc full of wet stuff that lives on my bathroom counter between flights. Sometimes the wet stuff isn't really in the bag, it's next to the bag or on top of it. (And it's not like I'm a crazy jet-setter, I just hate unpacking properly. Hi, Jolie!)

– Whichever tote or purse I'm carrying at the moment holds lip gloss, blush, and some sort of foundation or cover-up.

On to the booty!

My Forever Family (of products): 

NARS Pure Radiant Tinted Moisturizer, SPF 30 in Alaska. This is my "first thing in the morning" jam now that I live in a sunny place. It's got the most coverage I've found in a tinted moisturizer while still feeling like a lotion — and I've tried them all.

Make Up Forever HD Foundation in 120, 125, or 127, depending on how much I've been outside. I don't see humans anymore, ever, so I only bust this out if I'm leaving the house.

Vincent Longo's Concealer Brush #25 allows me to apply that foundation as, you guessed it, a concealer.

NARS Blush in Desire for winter and Orgasm for summer.

Benefit High Beam Highlighter, but only because I ran out of that Josie Maran one.

Illamasqua Lipstick in Matte Dusty Rose. It's the one I used in both Edith and Lila's makeovers.

Dior Addict Lipstick in a sheer pinky/coral for summer. They keep changing the names of their colors.

Laura Mercier Eye Basics in Light Ivory. I use this as an eye shadow primer or standalone, neutral shadow.

MAC Eye Kohl in Smolder. This is the darkest, softest (meaning maleable, meaning it goes on easily) black eyeliner I've found, which makes it best your waterline or tightlining.

Diorshow and Maybelline Great Lash mascaras in the blackest shades available. I kind of got over Diorshow for a minute because it's SO obvious and sometimes clumpy, but then everything I found that showed up as clearly was a huge pain to take off each night, so. Right now I'm using Diorshow Extase — it's supposed to make your lashes grow, but nothing really does that aside from Latisse — and it's okay, but I'll probably switch back to the classic when this one is gone.

Anastasia Brow Pencil in Dark Warm Brown or Warm Golden Brown, depending on if I have any highlights in my hair. Which I do right now because I just got my hair done like this yesterday.

Bobbi Brown Long-Wear Gel Eyeliner or Smashbox Jet Set Waterproof Eye Liner, depending on which is available at a store nearest to wherever I've run out of gel eyeliner.

This Jane Iredale Kabuki Brush for blush, MAC eye shadow brushes numbers 217 and 242, and this Sephora Pro Angled Liner Brush #22. I've had each one for many years — and I'm talking these same exact brushes, not duplicates.

Tweezerman Slant Tweezers and their Eyelash Curler.

Current Side-Pieces:

Lorac Pro Palette Eye Shadow. I also love Kat Von D's palettes, but I broke or used all of them and decided to switch it up recently. I'll probably go back as these colors are fine but a little boring.

Jouer Bronzer. I found this on the ground at a hotel bar. When it's gone I'll go back to the Soleil Tan de Chanel.

Revlon PhotoReady Powder and Eye Primer. Got these at CVS in an emergency and have kept using them — the primer under my eyes as it's sort of like YSL's Touche Eclat, and the powder to set my foundation on top of the some new, next-level zits I've created lately. I apply the powder with this All Over Brush from BH Cosmetics.

Buxom Stay-There Eye Shadow in Pug. I got this in one of those holiday gift sets that go on super sale every January at Sephora. It's pretty and sparkly and creamy, but I probably won't re-up once it's gone.

Some FusionBeauty Lip Fusion Gloss They had this at T.J. Maxx for negative dollars. It's fine. Lip gloss is the item I go through the fastest, so there's a new brand/color in my bag every few weeks.

Sugar Advanced Therapy Lip Treatment. I put lip stuff on before bed — often just Vaseline or something like that — but this was at the checkout at Sephora one day so I'm trying it. It's a tiny bit too tasty/smelly for bed time, but it is working.

Lancome Artliner in Noir.  It's easiest to apply with your eyes open. Not the best for cat eyes as the tip is a little too bendy for me to feel in control, but it gives a super dark and indelible line.

OH MY GOD, THAT IS SO MUCH SHIT. I'm sorry.

 

214 Comments / Post A Comment

wee_ramekin

Jane, do you find that Great Lash comes off your great lashes and leaves little flecks and spots of mascara in your under-eye area? Because I've always used Great Lash on a friend's advice, and this keeps happening to me.

Does anyone else have this problem? A friend advised that I get a waterproof mascara to solve the issue.

KeLynn

@wee_ramekin I have never had a good experience with Great Lash. Do you have that problem with any other mascaras? I don't think you should resort to waterproof right away.

Exene

@KeLynn ...people are using non-waterproof mascara?! My current drugstore jam is Maybelline Lash Stiletto (WATERPROOF ONLY!)

special_boots

@wee_ramekin Ok, mascara is my wheelhouse -- I am known far and wide for my eyelashes, they're my thing -- and I hate Great Lash and think it is terrible. I also hate waterproof mascara -- so gunky!

For Maybelline mascara, I like Full 'n' Soft and Lash Discovery. Try one of those!

I like Lash Stiletto ok too, although it does have that funny smell. I would never use waterproof, though. Not even when it's pouring outside. (I carry an umbrella.)

itiresias

@KeLynn yeah, great lash is always a mess on me, even though everyone on earth seems to recommend it. i use clinique mascara, which is annoying to pay for at $18, but does last a long time and doesn't smudge or fleck or irritate my eyeballs.

Faintly Macabre

@wee_ramekin I have that problem with Kiko mascara. But it cost 3 euro and every other mascara here costs like 15, so I've just been dealing with it for now and try to remember to check the mirror every few hours.

martinipie

@wee_ramekin Great Lash sucks for me too, and I also never understand why people like it so much. Maybe it's just a your-personal-eyes thing? I'm like itiresias and always go for Clinique. Actually, mascara is kinda the one product I dislike most drugstore versions of and am most willing to spend money on, so it's a win for me!

red pen

@wee_ramekin i had that same prob with the great lash, and then found lasting love with their bizarrely-apostrophized "volum' express classic"--it's the one in the navy blue tube (and it comes in both waterproof and regular versions!). you might not have to spend $18!

shallownotheartless

@wee_ramekin I never really liked great lash because it's super liquidy and doesn't hold a curl for me. I got a deluxe sample of Blinc mascara from Sephora and it's amazing!!! no smudging ever and it's a tubing mascara so super fun to take off

wee_ramekin

@shallownotheartless (What is a tubing mascara?)

KeLynn

@itiresias Hey! Me too with the stupid expensive Clinique! I've been using (and recommending all over the place) the High Intensity Curling mascara, but my last two tubes have been kind of weird. Or else my application technique took a sudden nosedive. Because now I get clumps all over the place. I thought the first tube went bad so I threw it away and opened another, but I'm still having that problem. What do you use?

KeLynn

@wee_ramekin It dries like in a tube around your eyelash. The tubes don't just fall off during the day or anything, but to take the mascara off you wet your lashes and let the tubes loosen, then they wipe/pull off like little spider legs. Personally, the Blinc one didn't work for me at all, flakes and smudges everywhere, but I do love myself a good tubing mascara and lots of other people seem to love Blinc.

RubeksCube

@wee_ramekin I gave up on Great Lash not too long ago. In a fit of buying-crap-I-probably-don't-need around Christmas, I bought Lush's mascara. So far I really like it, and it has the bonus of being all-natural, because they make all their own stuff. Plus it comes in the cutest little apothecary-esque bottle/tube/thingy.

MilesofMountains

@wee_ramekin Tubing mascara might be a good idea, if you have the cash for it. My mom uses Blinc because her opthamologist recommended it. Any other mascara she wore flaked, and by the time she hit her 40's her eyes had gotten really sensitive to the flakes and were constantly bloodshot from the irritation.

ghechr

@itiresias FUCK YES to Clinique mascara!

itiresias

@KeLynn whoa that sounds so alien-like and SO WEIRD. i'd probably like it.

i've always used clinique high impact. however, last time i bought it, i just picked up the one in the black tube and didnt realize it was the high definition one, and was surprised to find a little comb/brush combo inside it? i hated that at first, and then i started to like it, and then of course i got pink eye a couple months ago and had to throw it out. since then i've been using a tiny sample one that came in some gift set i got for christmas, which is somehow wildly inferior to the real one and gets black stuff all over my eyelids that i need to clean off with a q tip every single time. i'm procrastinating going back to a macy's or sephora or something to buy the original again.

Ellie

I use L'Oreal Voluminous Extra-Volume Collagen mascara. I really like it. I think it comes in waterproof and non waterproof. Last time I bought non waterproof by mistake and don't notice a difference.

muralgirl

@itiresias I tried some Clinique mascara recently and looooved the way it made my lashes look, but halfway through the day, it flaked all over and left my lashes half bare. I also hate Great Lash. I've come to realize that what mascara works best is super individual. It depends what your lashes are like (stubby, long, thick, sparse, etc.), what your skin is like (oily, dry, sensitive), how often you touch your face or blink, and what you're going for (thick spider-lashes or something soft and natural, etc.) So that means it's this huge experimentation process, and recommendations aren't that useful unless it's from someone with your exact same body.

muralgirl

@muralgirl By the way, the $3 e.l.f. 3-in-1 mascara is awesome if you're like me: short, sparse, invisible lashes, you want them defined, curled, long, and thicker, but not thick enough that they look goopy, and you have oily skin and/or touch your face so that mascara tends to smear or flake. It makes my lashes look nice and long and makes them stand up and doesn't come off no matter how much I rub my eyes.

Jane Marie

@wee_ramekin I don't have that problem with it, no. hm, maybe you're tube isn't closing all the way and it's drying out? also, if you do two coats you're not supposed to do the second one after the first one dries. wet on wet only. maybe that's it?

mannequinhands

I want to give a shout-out to Mary Kay Ultimate Mascara. Never flakes, never smudges, makes my lashes look enormous.

Scary Wollstonecraft

@MilesofMountains Fiberwig is similar to Blinc, so you may want to try that, too. I like both equally but Fiberwig seems more cost-effective (the Blinc tube is so small!!).

mcleodglen

@Faintly Macabre
i agree, the price is really a big factor to some people.

NeverOddOrEven

@Exene
I hate waterproof mascara. My lashes have looked better and longer since I quit using it (which was years ago.) It tugs and feels brittle and I just hate it.
I use Full N Soft and love it, and I get very minimal running even though I tear up a lot. Because I'm a big softie, not 'cause of the makeup.

[redacted]

@wee_ramekin I'm sorry I;m like a week late with this! But do you have really long eyelashes? I do (sob, I know) and I was having similar problems with a lot of the highly-recommended mascaras because they were just too much. A make-up artist friend told me to switch to one with a drier formula and gave me Maybelline Full and Soft, which is working for me right now.

But if you don't like that one, I don't know how to go about figuring out which are drier and which are wetter unless you have an expert-type person in your life to ask.

KeLynn

Thank god there is a beauty post today because guys, I'm going nuts. I got bangs today for the first time since 7th grade (!) and they keep stabbing me in the eyeball and pushing my eyelashes down and I'm going nuts.

Please send your best ideas for making your side-swoopy-ish bangs stay put where you want them to.

OK, now I'm back to the beginning to actually read what this post is about.

wee_ramekin

@KeLynn Ha! I can be of no help, but I must say that I've always pictured you with side-swoopy bangs because of your avatar!

KeLynn

@wee_ramekin I'm finally living up to my online persona! (I have another confession - my hair is blackish! Not rainbow! Ahhhhh I'm a fraud!)

meetapossum

@KeLynn They might not be long enough? I always just push mine to the side and they stay. (Well, sort of. Sometimes it's always in my eyes and I don't notice. You just get used to it!) Do you blow dry them? Make sure to pull them to the sweepy side as you blow dry.

sox
sox

@KeLynn My eventual solution was to grow them back out :(

And then I got ALL the layers cut out of my hair, and it's a little below my shoulders a la Olivia Palermo. A bit boring, but way easier to braid and kind of preppy. Plus now it's a clean slate for.... New layers? I'm not nearly brave enough to try the Zooey bangs.

Sorry, that was of no help at all.

tessamae

@KeLynn Longtime banger here (wait...), and I just trimmed mine up the other night to eye level. My tip is to blow dry in place, use a straightener to curl (I'm convinced mine stay out of my eye due to learning how to curl them *NOTE: GENTLY CURL NOT MALL BANGS I DO NOT HAVE MALL BANGS AHHHH*), and then liberally applying my all-time fave hairspray: Tresemme Tres Two.

bitchycrosstownexpress

@KeLynn What I do is part them the way I want and blow dry them for a few seconds in place, then brush *all* your bangs one way while blowdrying (so you are basically straightening your bangs across the curve of your forehead), then brush them back the other way. Do this until they seem mostly dry, then separate them out into the part again and finish off. I have a terrible cowlick right in the middle of my forehead and until my stylist taught me this trick I thought I'd never be able to have bangs ever.

I also keep a flatiron on hand because some days they just do not want to behave.

LeafySeaDragon

@KeLynn i had to blow dry my bangs when i had them or else they'd split into a perfect v with my cowlicks.

likethestore

@KeLynn Spend the next two years of your life growing them out, like me. :(

KeLynn

@all I love you all, but now I am triple confused because my stylist specifically told me not to flat iron bangs, or blow dry them the way I actually want them to fall (she said to blow dry the opposite way?), and also I thought maybe they were being annoying because they were too long. But you all have bangs and my stylist does not, so I clearly trust you, I'm really hoping this is a case of a new haircut being weird until I actually get to blowdry it myself.

tessamae

@KeLynn My stylist was the one who taught me how to do it, so I just think it's probably a case of 'figure out what works for your hairz". Good luck! :)

katiemcgillicuddy

@bitchycrosstownexpress So, if I also have a terrible cowlick, there is hope for bangs? Much like Kelynn, I haven't had them since middle school and would reaaaaally like to go for it but have been totally scared to for this very reason. So, after you do the brush back thing, you bring the part back and do it again?

meetapossum

@katiemcgillicuddy Yes! I also have a terrible cowlick, and I just asked my hairdresser what the best direction to sweep would be. Sometimes when they get wet you can spot it, but my methods of hairdrying work to keep it hidden usually.

katiemcgillicuddy

@meetapossum Thank you for the reassurance! I am very often in water, which is fine because I could not care less if my hair looks right while teaching tiny little morons (I really love kids but, jesus, sometimes) how to swim, so if getting my hair wet is the biggest thing in my way, I'm down. It's just nerve-wracking cause I spent so long as a kid growing them out (cause they were forced on me, and I haaaaated them, thanks adults!) so now, as a big girl, I am paranoid. But, okay, I think I will go for it!

meetapossum

@katiemcgillicuddy I had a similar experience growing up. I fought against bangs as long as my mom wanted me to have them. When I was a sophomore in college and could make my own hair-decisions, I got sweepy bangs and never looked back.

Nancy Sin

@KeLynn No she's right! Blowdry the opposite way and then at the very end do an upward swoop. It may feel insane but it helps them fall right. One stylist of mine also told me that bangs are always a little wacky the first few days (maybe the freshly cut ends or something) so relax if they aren't working for you for a little bit. You'll get the hang of it.

meetapossum

<3 Tweezerman tweezers.

stonefruit

I'm not sure if this is the place for this, but: Pinners, what are your thoughts on tube mascara (like Blinc or Trish McEvoy lash curling)?

I'm a little obsessed (and I wear mascara every day) but I'm interested to hear other people's thoughts.

LeafySeaDragon

@stonefruit i stopped curling my eyelashes and BAM they got thicker. right now i'm using this kind of mascara and i like it better than most other mascaras i've tried. the last year or so i've been buying cheapie drug store stuff as long as it's waterproof, brown black and has that kind of applicator. i find it needs to be replaced like every 2-3 months though regardless of how much i've used.

stonefruit

@LeafySeaDragon Oh - the "lash curling" is part of the name of the Trish McEvoy tube mascara, not a reference to those pincer-y things. Sorry about that!

LeafySeaDragon

@stonefruit D'oh!

shallownotheartless

@stonefruit Oops I posted a comment about Blinc further up in the section but I really like it! No smudging at all which is a first for me. I usually wear it for a daytime look though since it's not really that dramatic. I've been using the Givenchy Noir Couture for going out times since I usually do a smoky smudgy thing anyway so it doesn't matter if my mascara runs a bit

KeLynn

@stonefruit Love them! Except when I get impatient to finish my shower and try to pull the tubes off before they're ready to come off. I have pulled out a lot of eyelashes. I actually tried to move on to a new mascara because of this issue, but all non-tubey ones smudged on me :(

Blinc didn't work for me (flaked, smudged). There's one by Revlon that honestly gives the best results, but it's a two-step process with a primer and I hated the complication (and the primer was white so you *really* had to make sure the black coat covered everything). Right now I'm using Clinique's High Impact Curling mascara but the last couple tubes have been smudgey so I'm hoping to find something else. Plus, I have to be in the shower for like 10 minutes before the tubes are loose enough to come off, and sometimes I just don't have shit to do for 10 minutes in the shower.

Beatrix Kiddo

@stonefruit It's the only kind I wear (actually, almost the only makeup I wear at all), mainly because I hate having to aggressively remove makeup before bed, and it comes off easily. Also, I'd rather have mascara flake than smudge.

Hellcat

@LeafySeaDragon I thought mine were thinning out a while back too and started using mascaras that claim to promote growth. I was skeptical but I swear that Physician's Formula helped--it's a beige tube with a green leafy looking top on it (not waterproof). The design is kind of stupid and the leaf makes it feel a little awkward to hold, but I thought it was nice for a cheap drugstore brand. I tried to buy it again but all I saw was the waterproof version, which I bought and which is also nice but insanely hard (for me, anyway) to remove. I like mascara to come off when I wash my face as usual but this seems to require more elbow grease more than that. Bah.

Sort of related--does anyone else ever have this happen: you wipe off your mascara and, somehow, beneath your bottom lashes is the perfect amount and smudginess, eyeliner style? It makes me so mad because I suck at eyeliner (yes, even when I want it to be sort of messy) so I don't bother. Then I get it by accident? What the hell is that? Same thing happens when I put my hair up to wash my face: I get the perfect, public-worthy messy bun-clump thing... but I can never reproduce it on purpose!

commanderbanana

@Hellcat I think there's something to it - I started using Rimmel's Lashgrow (or whatever it's called) and definitely noticed that my eyelashes were longer and thicker after I had used it consistently for about a month. I also bought some of that RapidLash stuff, but since I can never remember to put it on, I can't really say if it helped or not.
I did read somewhere that if you put face cream on or around your eyelids, it can inhibit your eyelashes and eyebrows from growing (something about blocked follicles, idk) and that keeping heavy cream off your lashline can help.

Hellcat

@commanderbanana I should remember that; I'm totally a slapdash smearer of moisturizer!

KeLynn

@Hellcat I get SO ANGRY when my bedtime buns are gorgeous, but I know - KNOW - that when I try to recreate in the morning, I will look like a troll.

Hellcat

@KeLynn HA! It's ri-god-damn-diculous -- and it's like clockwork with me. Heading into the shower on a night home alone? Ta-da, perfect poof! Trying to head off to work without bothering to straighten the bends and "neck-humidity sleeping curls"? Too bad, sucker!

Buffy Summers

Yay products!

Used to be obsessed with Diorshow but I found that it dried out really fast and thus couldn't justify the price of it. L'Oreal Voluminous Million Lashes is a great drugstore sub- just have a mascara brush handy as you are applying or it can clump terribly.

Stila makes the best liquid eyeliner. Hands-down.

If you like Nars Orgasm but want something less shimmery, try Deep Throat. Very pretty and subtle.

Madeline Shoes

@Buffy Summers I've been waiting for someone to give a good recommendation for a cheaper Diorshow sub (for some reason buying mascara no one has recommended stresses me out!!) - I've been using a sample of Smashbox Full Exposure, which is awesome but still $19.50. I'm going to have to get my hands on some of the L'Oreal...

Lisa Frank

@Buffy Summers I like L'oreal's Voluminous mascara too. I think the trick is to do the coats one right after another so that the first coat doesn't really have a chance to dry. That keeps it from clumping.

parallel-lines

@Buffy Summers Diorshow was horrible for contact lenses--so much flaking! I like Clinique better.

spanglepants

@Buffy Summers There's a blush called 'Deep Throat' and it's *subtle*? Hmm.

planforamiracle

ooo, thanks for recommending the NARS tinted moisturizer. I recently decided I need to upgrade from drugstore-level for something I'm putting all over my face every day, so once I run out of my Marcelle tinted moisturizer (which has been my faithful companion for a long time, don't get me wrong!) I'm gonna try the NARS.

Punk-assBookJockey

@planforamiracle I really love Stila's tinted moisturizer too, and I've tried quite a few of them. It's got a really good range of shades and it's fragrance free if you're a sensitive type! I have also tried a couple from Clinique and the Laura Mercier one, which everyone loves, but it's not my fave.

area@twitter

So newbie question here: when should one wear a liquid foundation as opposed to a powder? I tend to use a Neutrogena powder foundation with SPF to even out my skin tone, but honestly I have no idea what I'm doing.
Also: help, eye makeup. Eyeliner. Mascara. When do you use eyeliner? I am just starting to figure out eyeshadow and there are SO MANY COLORS, help.
Also also: <3 Tweezerman. And Sugar lip treatments, I scored a teeny tube of the SPF 15 in Clear and it's so tasty-smelling and soft. I'm parceling it out slowly at bedtime to try and make it last.

polka dots vs stripes

@area@twitter I have been told by the Clinque counter lady that it depends on your face type? Like big pores versus little pores, oily versus dry, etc, but I don't remember who should use what, so I am, unfortunately, only half helpful.

LeafySeaDragon

@polka dots vs stripes i think you are onto something! i have large pores and oily-in-patches skin and i like to do liquid with powder on top.

polka dots vs stripes

@LeafySeaDragon I am doing research on this subject and of course, Oprah has all the answers:

http://www.oprah.com/style/How-to-Choose-and-Use-the-Right-Foundation

lauraruth

@area@twitter I would recommend tinted moisturizer or bb cream in literally every scenario, maybe followed with powder if you have very oily skin. Also for eyeshadow colors, you might try first sticking to what looks best with your eye color: I have blue eyes, for example, so I wear a lot of browns and golds. Just google your eye color + eyeshadow and you'll be set.

cupcakecore@twitter

@area@twitter Do you have dry/oily/combo skin? Do you sheer coverage, something heavier, or buildable? How comfortable are you wearing makeup? Is the weather dry or humid? What about spf?

I have oily/combo skin, but it's winter and pretty freaking dry where I am, so I can get away with a sheer-ish liquid foundation/powder and sometimes concealer and primer if I have time. During the summer, tinted moisturizer and powder were all my face could stand.

As to eye makeup that's a huge category, but I like to recommend starting with a neutral eye palette and one or two bright shades and experiment. Start with the lighter colors first in whatever look you try until you're comfortable with brighter/darker colors, it's easier to blend over a lighter color than something dark. Use an eye primer and invest in a couple of good brushes (you don't need that many).

TARDIStime

@area@twitter Primers! Make sure you a) use it all the time, and b) use the right one for you.
There are moisturising ones, pore minimising ones, mattifying ones, illuminating ones... Lots of options. Primers are great for making your skin look good/feel smooth/last properly. I'm going to not give advice on foundations because all of our 'pinners have your back there, already.
Also: eye primers! I like LimeCrime eyeshadow helper. It's the one with the unicorn on it (not kidding - unicorn!)
If you know you're going to be photographed, don't wear anything with shimmer - your eyelids will look weirdly sweaty in the photos.
When to use powder: If you're me - all the time. I have skin that is on the oilier side, so powder is good for absorbing that and setting your makeup.
If you're not oily and need to set your makeup, use setting spray. This keeps your stuff anchored to your face all day without drying you out/ageing you the way powder can.

TARDIStime

@TARDIStime
Oh, re: eyeliners - I don't do them.
I do the thing Nat Dee does:
http://www.stuffiputonmyself.com/2012/08/lets-do-eyeliner.html#more

TARDIStime

@TARDIStime But I use eyeshadow (light coloured stuff, to make me look more awake)

crango

@area@twitter I don't usually wear liquid foundation because I am an oily greaseball, and even with primer it winds up sliding around my face. Plus, I feel too made up when I do wear it. For whatever reason I haven't had this problem with bb creams. I found one at CVS by lumene and I think I am going to marry it. Otherwise, I use bareminerals original powder foundation because it looks super natural despite having really good coverage.

I wear eyeliner most days because I am eyeshadow stupid.. Half the time I do wear shadow, I use it as eyeliner, so yeah.

commanderbanana

@area@twitter All the time! Haha, actually, only when you want to?
I would find someone whose makeup look I liked and ask them how they did it. Also, the type of foundation you wear will depend a lot on your skin, whether you're prone to breakouts, are sensitive, etc. Moisturizing properly (and remembering to let it dry before you put anything on!) really helps, and you'll probably use less foundation if your skin is prepped for it.
I've had really good luck with Maybelline's BB cream, and it has a built in SPF, too.
If you go to a MAC store, they'll do your face and give you a face-diagram with instructions, but be realistic about the amount of time + products that you will really use, or you'll walk out of there with stuff you won't use again.
I think knowing what colors look good on you helps - I don't buy a lot of eyeshadow any more because I pretty much settled on the 3-4 colors that work for me and don't really change it.

polka dots vs stripes

Here's where I ask the Obvious of Obvious questions:

What does highlighter do?!?! Where/how do you put it?!? I have never been able to figure that out.

martinipie

@polka dots vs stripes Jane has some good posts on this but the basic idea is that highlighter gives a nice glow of reflected light on places you want a good sheeny glow. Put it on places that would normally catch the light--browbones, top of the cheekbones, bridge of the nose, cupid's bow are all some spots people like to put it--and blendblendblend. You'll be amazed by how nice and glowy you look. If you're pairing it with blush or bronzer, put it above the spots you put blush.

tessamae

@polka dots vs stripes I use it on the tops of my cheekbones, my browbones and sometimes a little teensy bit in the cupid's bow of my lip.

LeafySeaDragon

@polka dots vs stripes i just got some of that benefit highlighter stuff on the rec of someone here. i'm still playing with it, but so far it's all kinds of potentially awesome. so i will be watching this thread!

polka dots vs stripes

@LeafySeaDragon I decided I want to spend all my money at Sephora this winter, despite barely being a makeup-y person. I made this huge list of products I wanted and ideas I'd try, but highlighter was definitely not on it and now I'm wondering if it should be??

Side note: One of the reasons I'm not a big make up person is, quite frankly, I don't look at my face all day? So I never really check and see if my make up is melting off or if my mascara has given me raccoon eyes or whatever, so I just stick with the basics I know and call it a day. Do people make it a point to check up on their makeup during the day??! It's never something that occurs to me but I think I maybe should start on that....

LeafySeaDragon

@polka dots vs stripes lol the only time i checked my makeup often (every two hours or so) was when i was working as a barista and was angling for megatips!

KeLynn

@martinipie - I also put a teensy bit on my collarbone, but just a dab because I *really* don't want to venture into body glitter territory.

martinipie

@KeLynn I always want to venture into body glitter territory...

lizard

@polka dots vs stripes you dont go to the bathroom? thats when i usally look in the mirror to make sure its all copacetic and brush my hair or whatever.

polka dots vs stripes

@lizard I do, I'm just usually so focused on making myself germ-free or trying to get away from the various odd ducks who use our restroom that I don't think to check my make up. BUT! Something I should think about doing.

muralgirl

@polka dots vs stripes I like highlighter, because I feel like when I put on tinted moisturizer or foundation or whatever to even out my skin, then my face looks really flat, and the highlight gives me my features back. I mostly use it in a line straight down my nose and on my cheekbones. Sometimes right above my eyebrows and on my chin if I am really procrastinating by putting on as much makeup as possible.

cupcakecore@twitter

@polka dots vs stripes Pixiwoo actually has a great, simple video about highlighting/contouring that really simplifies the process. But highlighter is supposed to highlight; the tops of cheeks, bridge of the nose, browbone, etc. Tread carefully with shimmery highlighters if you have skin that gets oily because it can equal shine overload pretty quickly.

sox
sox

What is a haul video, anyone?

KeLynn

@sox It's basically like a video where you talk about what you bought at the store today. Some ladies do them for makeup or clothes. Some gentlemen do them for video games.* Video gamers also do "unboxings" which I believe is just you watching them opening the box after they buy a brand new system or something like that?

*And vice versa, I'm sure.

TARDIStime

@sox A link to a haul post by my Editor:

http://www.makeuputopia.com/community/recent-haulage

It's really just showing what you got in the mail/bought/got for Christmas recently and inciting product lust for your readers. ;-)
My Editor uses them as a way to gauge what her readers might want to see reviewed in the coming weeks by combing the comments underneath those posts.

Theda Baranowski

Is this the part where we report what's in our makeup bags? Can it be?

For me, it's:

Tarte Tinted Moisturizer SPF 20 in Agent 02 (or 04?) aka Facade
Stila Kujal Eyeliner in Amethyst and Smoke
Clinique High Impact Mascara in Black
NARS Orgasm 3-in-1 stick
NARS Mata Hari blush
Boots No 7 cream blush in Damson Rose (oddly this is the go-to for mornings when I look half-dead, rather than the $28 blushes)
So much lipstick. (MAC Russian Red, Lancome Berry Noir, Clinique Black Honey, Bare Escentuals Plum Brulee, Lancome Crushed Rose, Lancome Coquette (accidental purchase) Burts Bees Tinted Lip Balm in Red Dahlia, Fresh Sugar Rose, Bitten Balm in Raspberry)

hands_down

@Theda Baranowski Ooh, I just got Black Honey recently, and I absolutely love it.

lisma

@Theda Baranowski Mata Hari is such a great color! And I think it's going to last forever because a little goes such a long way.

almighty jugs

@hands_down BLACK HONEY. I'm on my third tube. i <3 u, honie

packedsuitcase

@Theda Baranowski Russian Red is basically the biggest gun in my make up arsenal. It seriously is the best thing I've ever bought and I finally had to get another tube. It's amazing. Brightens up a bad day and adds a huge punch of confidence when I need it. Love love love love love.

commanderbanana

@Theda Baranowski Eee, I love doing this!
Right now, I'm wearing:
Maybelline's BB cream
MAC stick foundation (I love it, and use it instead of concealer, but they discontinued it and broke my heart.)
Maybelline Finishing Veil powder or Kett Set Powder
A tiny sample of Hot Mama blush from The Balm, although I think it's too peachy/gold for me, but I'm still trying to find the perfect blush color
Lorac eye shadow from a palette with a very dark sort of smoky forest-green and a shimmery beige
Rimmel mascara
Wet n' Wild liner
Maybelline's Midnight Red or Clinique Angel Red lipstick
A cheap brow pencil from ULTA

Theda Baranowski

@packedsuitcase I couldn't find a red lipstick that didn't make me feel like a clown, and then I tried Russian Red. It's now the lipstick I wear on weekends and I'm running errands and I can just be that fucking fabulous because I can.

Theda Baranowski

@commanderbanana Ooh, what I'm wearing. We used to do this on the Shiny Media forums when I was obsessed with UK beauty and style blogs:

Tarte Tinted Moisturizer in Agent 02/Facade
Clinique High Impact Mascara in Black
NARS powder blush in Mata Hari
Fresh Sugar Rose balm

It's very muted, but it's ice storming in Chicago this morning so I figured I should actually leave on time.

Emma Peel

@Theda Baranowski Yes! My everyday makeup bag (the one I take to work with me if I don't have time to put on morning makeup or whatever), in order:

--$2 tiny tube of Eucerin Daily Protection SPF 30 from the travel size section, which has lasted me more than a month.
--Monistat Anti-Chafing Gel for primer
--Laura Mercier tinted moisturizer in Porcelain
--Milani baked blush in Luminous (Orgasm-colored, but less sparkly, although I think I'm going to switch back to Benefit's Coralista for the rest of winter if I can justify the $$$ difference)
--Revlon ColorStay gel eyeliner
--Covergirl LashBlast 24-hour waterproof mascara
--Benefit Boiiiing concealer in the lightest shade
--Tons of lipstick: Benefit in Lady's Choice, Clinique Black Honey, two Revlon lip butters in bright pink and bright red (Sweet Tart and Candy Apple), the J. Crew red lipstick by Poppy King, Buxom in a tangeriney color. I haven't found an everyday/muted-ish one I like, though.

I swap back and forth between drugstore and high-end; at the moment I seem to be more drugstore-y, and am actually really happy with most of it. I think I'm going to have to get a fancy gel eyeliner though; my eyelids are oily as heck and everything migrates to the crease.

In my non-everyday bag I have a few eyeshadows from Merle Norman that a friend who used to work there gave me, several eyeliners and Urban Decay primer in Sin. I don't wear eyeshadow every day (it feels too fancy for me), so I keep putting off doing something like buying the Naked palette. Plus I have a bunch of stuff I rarely use and am going to purge tomorrow.

LeafySeaDragon

i feel way less bad about my makeup station now!

is there like a special trick for finding the right color blush? at this point i'm looking into a blush palette!

Madeline Shoes

@LeafySeaDragon I did something super-scientific: I went to Sephora and pinched my cheeks a bunch and then held up different colors of blush until I found one that looked like the same color. People may look at you like you're crazy, and the Sephora girls might come over and try to help you a whole bunch of times, but I think it worked pretty well! The blush I ended up with is a lot different than I normally would have just picked out just by looking at the pot, but it looks much more natural (I hope!)

Theda Baranowski

@LeafySeaDragon I end up just going with trial and error. And also it depends what I'm going for - Orgasm is my safe blush, because it's ALMOST as universally flattering as all the makeup artists claim. I have a second one that's a bright pink and I wear when I want to look particularly rosy. (it's about the shade of Jane's up there maybe a bit brighter) And then I have a random drugstore blush I picked up because it looked pretty and is surprisingly flattering.

Lu2
Lu2

@LeafySeaDragon "Makeup station"? I'm intrigued. It sounds very structured! :D

LeafySeaDragon

@Lu2 my husband is ex-military and that's what he calls it.

LeafySeaDragon

@Madeline Shoes sceince!

muralgirl

@LeafySeaDragon Buy a bunch of cheap ones from Wet n Wild or e.l.f. and then figure out what color you like best? And then buy a better quality one in the same shade! Although the Wet n Wild ColorIcon blushes are pretty awesome themselves.

cupcakecore@twitter

@LeafySeaDragon I have a serious bizness makeup station too! It's a little embarrassing.

ClogginBoydCrowder

@LeafySeaDragon Go to a department store makeup counter of your choice when it's not busy. Tell the person you would like to find a nice blush. They will give you a few good options. Don't feel pressured to buy it if its not your color. Repeat until you find one you like. Buy it and then either continue buying that brand or take it to a cheaper store and find the same color elsewhere. I like smash box chiffon, fwiw. Even my mom couldn't tell it was makeup, so that passed my "must look natural" test.

crango

@LeafySeaDragon I wing it most of the time. Sometimes I'll look up swatches online if I can't see a particular blush in person before I buy it. I really love Nyx blushes because they're pretty cheap, they have a nice formula, and come in a ton of shades.

MollyculeTheory

I am so glad that beauty-genius Jane has totally justified my habit of keeping all of my wet makeup in a Ziploc even though I only fly about 3 times a year. Except my dry/tool "makeup case" right now is actually a quilty storage bag that came with a bottle of Perrier Jouet. Better than the Crown Royal bag, I guess?! (I have totally used a Crown Royal bag.)

katiemcgillicuddy

@MollyculeTheory Crown Royal bag users unite.

Hellcat

@MollyculeTheory I have a big, zippered Millennium Falcon case that is, I believe, meant to hold Legos, that I bought to hole makeup (though it's way too big to fit in a purse). But I have a big cabinet that fits those little plastic chests-of-drawer things and they keep everything more organized. So the Falcon is more for travel...which I rarely do, so I guess it's just there to look cool then.

In my purse makeup bag, which is just a cylindrical plastic thing about the size of 1.5 soda cans, are... I don't even know what... about 12 lipsticks that I rarely reapply anyway--one's that F-Bomb fat pencil from Urban Decay (I think) and it's a pretty nice red for people who have trouble finding a Good Red, one's Clinique's Different Lipstick in in Angel Red (also a nice one), and the ubiquitous Black Honey. A folding lash comb with metal teeth, I think an Almay mascara and a tiny plastic eyelash curler that just does not feel right when I try to use it, and a whole slew of various glosses in squeezy tubes. My makeup bag is boring and I think I am a lip-product hoarder.

Madeline Shoes

@Hellcat MILLENNIUM FALCON??? I'm so jealous. I use this (http://muggphoto.photoshelter.com/image/I0000cHRSu5nwxEs) bag because when I was 14 or 15 PEOPLE magazine told me some celebrity used it, and then the next day I saw it in a store while I was on vacation. Now I can't get rid of it because it was the first (definitely not last) time I bought something because a magazine told me a celebrity used it.

Hellcat

@MollyculeTheory That is cute -- has it gotten grubby over the years, or can you wash it like clothes?

Here's mine--you can get one too if you want; I found it at Target!
http://www.toywiz.com/legofalconbag.html?gclid=CK2hzcOwpLUCFcRT4AodjioAvA

commanderbanana

@Hellcat OMG Angel Red!! That and Maybelline's Midnight Red are my two go-to red lipsticks. I keep backup tubes of Angel Red and I would tear my hair and wear ashes if Clinique ever discontinued it.

Hellcat

@commanderbanana I KNOW! I finally found IT, the red. I'd love to wear a bolder one, but it's just not for me (they always end up looking too magenta or orange on me, when I am looking for a blue-based color, or something in the maroon family). Angel Red does the trick without making my mouth look like a completely separate entity from the rest of my face. I want to try that MAC one again--the one everyone swears by, but I always forget. It's my birthday month though, so maybe that will be my next Sephora purchase.

NeverOddOrEven

@katiemcgillicuddy
Mine's full of a million different allen wrenches.

katiemcgillicuddy

@NeverOddOrEven In my stoner days, mine held things like pipes and papers.

Hellcat

@NeverOddOrEven Those things do have a way of mysteriously accumulating, don't they?

commanderbanana

@Hellcat Russian Red? I haven't tried that one - it's hard as the dickens to find a good, true blue-based red that doesn't fade or orange out on you. I had a great Tommy Hilfiger lipstick that someone gave to me that I looooved that is now a tiny nub that they don't make any more that was sort of like a more opaque version of Angel Red. The closest I've gotten to it is Maybelline's Midnight Red. All the other reds I've tried (And I've tried a lot of freaking red lipstick) are too bright, too orange, too clowny, or too dry and cakey. I have heard good things about MakeUpForever's lipsticks and that they stay true to color, so maybe try one of those out the next time you're at Sephora?
And then let me know how it goes, of course!

Hellcat

@commanderbanana YES, THAT'S IT! I want me some Russian Red!

tessamae

RECC's NEEDED: I am desperately looking for an opaque eye shadow palette of darker, rich browns. I often find that the ones I find say espresso when they are really a mocha upon application. AND I DON'T WANT ANY MILK IN MY COFFEE OKAY. :)

RocketSurgeon

@tessamae Those Urban Decay Naked palettes are very popular and contain a lot of brown shades, but they may not be dark enough for you. I've also had good luck with Smashbox palettes.

Baby Fish Mouth

@tessamae I am not sure if they will have the perfect brown you are looking for but Coastal Scents is great for opaque eyeshadow. You can make a custom palatte to try the different browns. I cannot stop recommending this brand for eyeshadow, it is my favorite.

victorian rose

@tessamae Ok this is really random, but at nordstrom rack they usually carry Jane brand makeup. The single pot eyeshadows are very opaque, matte and CHEAP.

sandwiches

@tessamae It's not a palette, but NARS' Mekong eyeshadow is very espresso-bean opaque.

Lu2
Lu2

@sandwiches Urban Decay has some pretty intense browns.

tessamae

@all: thanks yo!!

@victorian rose: Whhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat!

@Wiscowhitney: where do they sell this Coastal Scents brand you tout?

Baby Fish Mouth

@tessamae http://www.coastalscents.com/

muralgirl

@tessamae There are really, really pigmented, really dark brown in the Wet n Wild Color Icon palette called Comfort Zone. It's really good quality too. Freakishly good.

cupcakecore@twitter

@tessamae MAC mystery! I just went to check the name and swatched it while I was there, it's pretty dark and not too warm. Plus it's a satin, so it's basically matte but not flat.

par_parenthese

@tessamae http://www.everydayminerals.com/store/color/eyes/eyeliner.html

It says liner but it's a powder liner -- I've used them as shadows before and they're great. REALLY pigmented.

TARDIStime

@tessamae The Balm "Sleek" in the Nude Tude Palette is like coffee grinds (better texture though).
Also the Nude Tude palette is the sexiest thing I've ever seen - all of the pin-ups!

crango

@tessamae Inglots seems to have some really nice dark browns, though I haven't tried them personally. Also, check out Sleek Makeup's i Divine palettes! Actually, I want to just give a really big shout out about Sleek because they are super affordable, really good quality AND I just paid a little over three buck for shipping from the UK to NY on an order I just placed

Heat Signature

Unrelated, but remember Caboodles? I had a purple sparkly one that I loved but eventually grew dusty and gross with disuse.

polka dots vs stripes

@Heat Signature Yes! I think I have three underneath the bed in my parents' house still.

OhMarie

@Heat Signature I still use a caboodles. It is sparkly blue. I unearthed it in a bathroom cabinet at my parents' house and had to basically douse it in bleach and boiling water, but it is really wonderful and has been in use for a few years now.

RocketSurgeon

Yay! In the last year, I've added to much variety to my makeup. It's fun and I love it. Thanks for the inspiration, Jane.

I accidentally discovered how great it is to use a shade of neutral eyeshadow very close to your own skin tone as an eyeshadow primer. I bought Bobby Brown's Shore matte cream shadow after trying it at a poorly lighted makeup counter. It matches my skin exactly, which isn't what I wanted at the time. But it also makes my lids look airbrushed, and colors applied on top show better, last longer and don't crease as much.

Rookie (not the magazine) (not that there's anything wrong with that)

@RocketSurgeon Is this instead of or in addition to applying foundation to your eyelids?

LeafySeaDragon

also - has anyone used coastal scents makeup?

Baby Fish Mouth

@LeafySeaDragon YES! I recommended it to Tessamae above before seeing your comment. I don't like their gel liner which arrived dried out. Their foundations aren't really worth it from the samples I've tried. But I really like their lip pencils and their eyeshadow does not quit. I use MAC Paint Pot in Bare Study as a primer and then wear Coastal Scents eyeshadow on top. I went a little crazy buying it during a 1/2 off sale so I have a lot. The combination ensure my eyeshadow lasts all day.

red pen

thank god for the eye-makeup portion of this. my favorite bronze eyeshadow (l'oreal; rated the most toxic eyeshadow on the market! hahahaha oh god) and coffee-brown kohl eyeliner (almay) were both discontinued this year, and though i spent stupid dollars buying up what was left on amazon i've still been in a panic about what i'll do when i've used up the replacements. and now i know what to do! YAY!!!

cupcakecore@twitter

@red pen My rec would be bring it to makeup counters/sephora and swatch away until you find a suitable replacement, or ask the salesperson to help you find something that matches.

Edith Zimmerman

What I have in my makeup are because of Jane Marie: that Anastasia eyebrow pencil, the Dior Addict lipstick, the NARS blush, the Laura Mercier primer ... all great.

Caitlin Podiak

I put travel-size toiletries in a plastic bag when I fly but I leave a makeup bag with plenty of "wet stuff" in my carry-on every single time and I have never gotten so much as a raised eyebrow about it from TSA.

Lu2
Lu2

@Caitlin Podiak Yup, me too. I feel like if you've taken the trouble to put some things outside the bag separately for their perusal, they assume that's all you've got. My intention is not to defraud, but I just forget that some things are technically liquidy (like a Garnier roll-on concealer).

Beatrix Kiddo

@Lu2 I never take my liquids out of my carry-on to go through security anymore, and nobody has stopped me in the last five years. Try it!

Lu2
Lu2

@Beatrix Kiddo Wheee! :) Actually, I get stopped a lot for such an innocuous-looking person. Depends on the airport, I guess. I've always gotten stopped and searched (my bag) in DC airports. But one time in Baltimore, I unknowingly carried through an old bottle of Diet Coke and all the TSA person did was stop me after I picked up my bag post-scanning and ask me, leadingly, "Did you maybe forget something in your bag?" I looked at him blankly, then went, "OH! Diet Coke!" and he laughed and waved me on (after confiscating it).

Caitlin Podiak

@Lu2 Yeah, I just got fed up with switching things in and out of my makeup bag, plus my one little sandwich-size plastic baggie is already stuffed to capacity with all the other toiletries. I figure if they ever call me out on it I can play dumb, like, oh, concealer and foundation and primer and gel blush count as liquids, really? But they never have.

muralgirl

@Caitlin Podiak Yeah, I've got away with it too, but I've also been stuck behind people who've been asked to go back and rifle through all of their bags and take out all of their liquids, and that's not cool when you're in a hurry. I don't want to be that guy, so I try to separate everything that I can remember.

par_parenthese

@muralgirl Agreed. I've accidentally gotten away with it, but as a fairly frequent traveler who has many (MANY!) times gotten stuck behind people who have apparently never HEARD of this airport security thing and are trying to carry on their family-size pump bottle of shampoo plus two pocketknives and a keychain pepper spray, I cannot help but throw some serious shade on people who just decide not to do a thing when it comes to the TSA. Yes, we all know it's just security theater but... maybe don't be that person.

Besides, you never know when you'll come across the TSA agent who makes you go to the private screening area and get an enhanced patdown from someone who was last seen dishing out gruel at a Victorian workhouse because you forgot your damn Burt's Bees was still in your pocket. I mean, HYPOTHETICALLY.

Madeline Shoes

@Beatrix Kiddo me neither! My mom got me one of those travel-carriers for your toiletries that folds up into thirds and then has a hook so you can hang it on the bathroom door? I have it full of travel-sized versions of all my products and always just pack it at the top of my carryon. I have never once been stopped! My dad almost had a heart attack when I told them I'd been doing that. He thinks I'm going to get arrested and they're going to have to come bail me out from airport jail or something.

NeverOddOrEven

@Caitlin Podiak
I got pulled out of line on the way to Vegas because I used the wrong sized bag for my liquids, and they went through everything.
Yet somehow I still walked away with my Mace that I forgot to leave behind.
I made it back home with it too.

EllyHigginbottom

Can we talk about that little tidbit you mentioned in there, tightlining? Anybody do this regularly instead of eyeliner? I'm a pro at the regular method of swiping it across the eyelid above the lash line, but I didn't even realize tightlining was a THING. I read the link and googled some videos and I'm still a little confused. Is this different than just lining your waterline? (I thought lining your waterline was bad?) And do you use gel/pencil/powder? I attempted it (or at least how I understood it) and kind of like how it looks but I'm not sure I'm understanding the "just push the pigment between your lashes" thing (are you painting the lashes?). Also, for invisible blonde eyelashes, this works better/worse? So many questions, I just long to understand this allegedly life changing method.

cupcakecore@twitter

@EllyHigginbottom Lining your water line isn't inherently bad; there's risks to it though. When you line your waterline, you're sticking eyeliner essentially in your eye, which makes you more prone to eye infection, depending on the state of your eyeliner (don't share your eyeliner, obvs). And while all eyeliners are obviously approved for eye use not all are waterline approved and can cause irritation when used to tightline/line the waterline. MAC's pearlglide liners are amazingly creamy and soft and I love lining my upper/lower waterlines with them, though I can tell that I'm not supposed to as it's a little irritating.

The way I understand tightlining, especially on the upper lash line is that you are lining just above the waterline and just below the lashes. I am suspect of it, personally. It just seems like a lot of effort for a really subtle (nice, yes, but subtle) result. And since I wear glasses all the time, it wouldn't be noticed regardless.

WineRanger

@EllyHigginbottom Tightlining is indeed life changing, and far, far easier than you might think. I have short, fine, sparse mousy brown lashes that are a big challenge to mascara. Here's what I do: load up angled eyeliner brush with dark brown shadow (it's a Revlon single, forget what color, obvs lasts forever) and sweep/push a line under your upper eyelashes up into the lashes themselves. Don't do too much or it will transfer to your lower waterline. Then do the same as eyeliner, a couple coats of mascara and BAM! You haz eyez.

ImASadGiraffe

@EllyHigginbottom I've been tightlining using an Urban Decay 24/7 eyeliner (I like a dark brown), and then doing my eye makeup like normal. I wear contacts and so far no issues with my eyes at all!

I get a lot more irritation if I do eyeliner on my lower lash line/waterline so I tend to use shadow for that instead.

commanderbanana

@EllyHigginbottom Natalie Dee has a tutorial on tightlining at her makeup blog. From what I understand, it's basically smooshing eyeshadow into your lashline, but not in the inner rim of your eye. Who knew eyelids were made up of such infitesimally divisible parts?? I don't line the inner rim of my eye because it doesn't last (even with Tarte's inner eye liner, such a lie), it's not that great for your eyes, and I actually think it makes my eyes look smaller.

EllyHigginbottom

Thanks everyone! You are all so helpful

Slutface

I wish there was a website or something where you could email a picture of yourself with makeup on and someone would either tell you, "Yeah, you're good." or "NO girl. Just NO." Then tell you what to do.

happy go lucky scamp

@Slutface as a colour blind gal who can't see shades and has given up wearing foundation for that reason, this would be awesome.
All I need is someone reliable to tell me am I wearing too much makeup, because I can't actually tell.

Megasus

@Slutface AN APP!? WHO IS A PROGRAMMER!?

TARDIStime

@Slutface I would read this as a Jane Marie Column.
Give the people what they want, Janie!

FulanaDeTallcan

@Slutface On Makeupalley they have Face of the Day where people put up pics of their fully made-up faces and can solicit constructive criticism. So there's that... BUT I think it would be soooo much better as a 'Pinner google group because the critiques and encouragements would be funnier.

megmix

@Slutface There's a subreddit called MakeupAddiction where you can post your picture and request constructive criticism on your look.
http://www.reddit.com/r/MakeupAddiction

Madeline Shoes

@Slutface YES. I think I look ok, but then sometimes I see people on the street and have to assume they also think they look ok, but they look like Mimi from the Drew Carey Show. It sometimes makes me wonder if I look as ok as I think.

commanderbanana

@FulanaDeTallcan I think this is a fabulous idea! I've finally gotten to the point where I'm not really experimenting with makeup or colors and have a sort of set 'look' that I wear every day, but I worry about it getting stale or not looking at good as I hope it does.
Also I want someone to tell me honestly whether my hair color looks as fake as I suspect it's starting to look.

parallel-lines

@Slutface It's funny seeing that comment next to a picture of Courtney Stodden. NO COURTNEY, NOOOOO

celeec4@twitter

@Madeline Shoes SO TRUE. So true, the paranoia never ends. What if I'm WRONG?

FulanaDeTallcan

@commanderbanana Also, maybe less unwittingly lightweight racist? I notice every time women of color put their pics on FOTD on Makeupalley, a bunch of people are like "omg you look juuuust like [brown or Black or east asian or Desi celebrity, depending on if the poster is brown or Black or east asian or Desi]... even if we emphatically do not look anything like that person. It's kinda nice that people are trying to be nice, but TRUST & BELIEVE that although I would love to, but I don't look like Selena at all. So maybe we should have a category to address what celebrity we could actually might look like? ....The better to build the case for Jane Marie to do more of those celebrity makeovers like when she made that adorable woman into Josephine Baker.

commanderbanana

@FulanaDeTallcan Ahhh, yes, unwitting racism! I don't think I have a celebrity doppelganger, but that's a nice idea - I'd love to have an Adele-style makeover, with lashes that take a week to flutter because they're so long.

the angry little raincloud

@Slutface This would be fantastic. Yes. I now have a complex about the eyeshadow I'm wearing. Granted, I'm hungover and was in a hurry this morning, so it wasn't applied maybe as well as usual. Anyway. I went to a store at lunch to buy lipstick, and the woman, with some disgust, was like "What color are you wearing on your eyes?" This was at NARS. But it's the same color that elicited a coo of approval from a MAC lady a few weeks ago.

(I buy a LOT of lipstick. I might be convinced that if I only find the perfect lipstick, life will be perfect. Here's hoping NARS Vesuvio is the one!)

nealbledsoe

Jane, I need to know how similar that revlon primer is to touche eclat - replacement status? I hate myself for spending $40 on that tiny pen full of genius on a regular basis, but definitely notice a difference when I skip it.

Jane Marie

@nealbledsoe it's not as good at coverage -- not as opaque -- but it has the same sheen and illuminating qualities?

itiresias

over the summer i ran out of the tinted moisturizer i use as undereye concealer (i swear it looks the best) while on a trip and bought some at a drugstore. i have sensitive/weird skin, so i went for the physician's formula section of the aisle (you know what i mean) and bought some from their "organic wear" line, which claims to have no harmful chemicals and whatnot. and now it's 8 months later, i'm still on the first tube, and that stuff works better than the vast plethora of other tinted moisturizers, foundations, and concealers i have tried. it's awesome. it also blends better with my skin tone, which is great because i don't wear makeup all over my face every day, just under my eyes, and sometimes that's WAY too obvious and it sucks.

carolita

C'mon, no pencil shavings? No bits of tissue?

Jane Marie

@carolita shoot, i should've taken a picture of the insides of the bags once everything was out of them :/

Megasus

I really hated the Revlon eye primer! I found it didn't work at all. I now have a $3 essence one that is supposed to be good, but I haven't busted it out yet.

Slutface

@Megano! I use the $3 ELF primer. I swear their stuff is better than a lot of the pricier stuff I've bought. I also use a $3 NYC face primer.

cupcakecore@twitter

This is where I confess that I have SO MUCH MAKEUP and I sometimes blog about it and I wear the same thing every day (foundation, powder, eyebrows, blush, mascara, and matte, very light beige eyeshadow) because I don't have time to do anything extra. :( I've stopped buying new eyeshadow because I can't justify it at all; vs. lipstick & nailpolish which at least I do wear.

What's the fluffy brush on the far right side of the picture of the picture? It looks too big to be an eye brush.

And what about bronzer???

crango

@S. Elizabeth Looks like a powder brush for blush/ bronzer

Jane Marie

@S. Elizabeth it's the bh cosmetics one i use to place foundation in really specific, zitty spots. it's not that big, between a small powder and large eye shadow brush size. and my bronzer is the jouer one on the left there, but i prefer chanel.

@Jane Marie I love the Chanel stuff that you used in the Glowy Face tutorial. (I was wondering if you really had taken Simon Doonan seriously and stopped with the bronzer, and Jane, I LOVE bronzer and I need it in my life always.)

Jane Marie

@S. Elizabeth yeah, these LA winters make it tough to stay off the junk, man :)

fondue with cheddar

Wow! As someone who doesn't wear makeup, I am absolutely amazed at the sheer multitude of products here.

grizzle_bees

Wait, different colors for the different seasons? I definitely do not do this. I wear the same colors until I get sick of them/they run out. My skin generally stays around the same color year-round, so I guess I can get away with it? Ugh the more I learn about being a girl the more I want to just say fuck it and not do anything to my appearance, ever.

celeec4@twitter

@shart_attack Amen, my solution around that is to be lazy and just use matte/neutrals all year long.

zeytin

Ok make-up troubleshooting time pleez?

So does anyone else get a weird film on the surface of their powder blush? It's from the oil of sunscreen/ foundation transferring from my face via the brush to the surface of the blush cake? It makes the surface all uneven and ugly and then it doesn't transfer onto the brush as nicely. Should I scrape it off?

Does anyone else have this problem or am I all alooooone?

commanderbanana

@zeytin Mine does that too - keeping your powder brushes fairly clean by washing them regularly will help, or just get a Kleenex or washcloth and scrub off the top layer. You can also give the surface a quick wipe with a tissue when you're done putting on your blush before you close up the case, and that can help. My pressed powder gets this and it's icky.

crango

@zeytin How frequently do you clean your brush? I had this one blush brush I didn't clean for an embarassingly long time and shit got ugly real fast. Also, how are you applying it? I tend to swirl the brush in the pan so that it picks up enough blush for me to gently build color without having to get more until I'm ready for the other cheek. You may want to consider using two brushes if you still find they're making the blush get gross. Use one brush to get the initial color on your face and then use a bigger, fluffier brush to blend it out

NeverOddOrEven

@zeytin
I think formula matters a lot. I have a few different blushes I use, but it happens like crazy to the two matte shades in the middle of this Wet n Wild one I really like.

cupcakecore@twitter

@zeytin I second the recommendation to clean your brush (I regularly use baby wipes, less regularly diluted shampoo or diy brush cleaner), but are you applying blush on top of foundation or on top of powder on top of foundation? That makes a difference too. I've heard you can use scotch tape to gently pull of the parts that have solidified but I've never tried it. I usually just gently scrape them off.

zeytin

@cupcakecore@twitter

Hey Everyone thanks for replying! I probably (definitely) don't clean my brushes enough. Just cleaned them as a result of this reminder. Also as NeveroddorEven said I think the formula matters because I used to use Benefit Dandelion and it didn't happen nearly as badly and its not like I was washing brushes on the regular then either. The blush I'm using now is one of Tarte's amazonian clay ones, and it is Matte, so that probably has something to do with it. I guess I will scrape off the top and try to be cleaner. I really want a new blush actually but am in financial austerity mode. :(

commanderbanana

As long as we're on the subject of makeup recommendations, I love Rimmel's Lashgrow (I think that's what it's called - black tube, neon green cap) mascara. I really have seen a difference in the amount and length of my eyelashes since I started using it.
I wear liquid eyeline every day and have tried a bazillion kinds, and the best one I've used is, for serious, the Wet n' Wild Mega Liner. The brush is super easy to manipulate and it stays put all day but comes off easily with water. Pretty much the only downside is that you have to replace it pretty often because it gets clumpy as air gets into it, but 1) it's cheap and 2) you should be replacing the things that go around your eyes regularly anyway.
I've started using Maybelline's BB, and it's great - I still put MAC stick foundation under my eyes and my permanently red nose, but it gives you this awesome ethereal glow thing going on and is super moisturizing and has sunblock and is just generally great.

squishycat

So, speaking of BB creams and tinted moisturizers - does anyone know of a good one where the "light" shade is actually RILLY RILLY light? I'm super pale and pink and don't tan, ever (in the sense that it is not something my skin does, at all), and most of the ones I've tried are just dark (and usually yellow-toned) enough that they end up making my face look dirty. Sometimes I fudge it by blending foundation (liquid or powder) into a plain moisturize, but honestly not only am I lazy, as much as I love makeup, but I also generally work very early in the morning and don't have the time/energy to put on full-on foundation most days, but have enough minor acne and random redness (there is no pattern to this - it's very rare for me to find that a product or method consistently leads to redness or irritation, and it's also not rosacea) that if I am going to be facing the general public and/or my more judgmental coworkers/bosses, I want to have *something* on, if only to appear slightly more "together" and less zombie-like.

Nicole Cliffe

I HEAR YOU, GIRL. Dr. Jart's is super light, and works for me. The "natural glow" from Juice Beauty also works. Dr. Brandt was too dark for me, and Clinique's palest BB colour was a little TOO light, so maybe start there?

crango

@squishycat You may want to look into Innisfree's Trouble Free bb cream (I think you can find it at sasa.com). It's a neutral-pinkish tone, though it may be a tad too dark if you're super fair. Sleek's bb cream comes in a fair shade and it looks pretty damn light from what I can tell from doing an image search. Most of Missha bb creams come in a bunch of really light shades as well.

crango

@squishycat Oh man, I nearly forgot! This is a pretty good review of different bb creams, but I think the second video would be really helpful for you! http://www.frmheadtotoe.com/2010/12/huge-bb-cream-overview-reviews-swatches.html

NeverOddOrEven

@squishycat
Natalie Dee is pretty pale and and said the Skin79 works for her when reviewing a few.
Its an OG Korean BB and cheap on Amazon. I'm trying it next.

Punk-assBookJockey

@Nicole Cliffe I also tried the clinique bb light shade and it was sooo pale. And I am a pale girl. It made me look ill, even when I wore blush/bronzer with it. Other than that I liked it, but I returned it. So I'm thinking a good place to start for someone super pale.

commanderbanana

@squishycat Ah, that is tricky - I am also really pale, but with yellow-toned skin. The makeup lines that I've found that have super-pale tones tend to be from companies like Shiseido, so they're more on the yellow rather than pink-toned side. I'd go to a big department store and go nuts at the makeup counters until I found one that worked.

Keri Garel@facebook

LOVE that NARS Tinted Moisturizer. Cuba matches my skintone perfectly in a way that no other product has ever done.

Killer Kitties

I reiterate EVERYTHING you said about MAC eye kohl! I borrowed my roommate's ONE TIME in college and have never let it go since. I use "teddy", which is a dark black/brown with a hint of bronze shimmer. It's the only MAC product I use and make special trips to bloomingdales just to buy them. FAVORITE. PRODUCT. EVER.

ghechr

You all, I have a beauty question. I don't generally wear foundation. BUT I would like to use some under-eye concealer/lightener as I tend to have some darkening in that area. But when I just apply product to my under-eyes, I feel like I look ridiculous. I use a MAC liquid foundation. Any recommendations for other products to use? Maybe I shouldn't use a foundation at all?

KeLynn

@ghechr I'm a little confused, but if you are saying that you use foundation as undereye concealer, then I think first of all you should think about switching to an actual undereye concealer.

Secondly, I agree that if I *only* put concealer on I feel a little weird, but something light (like powder or a BB cream) is usually enough to make the whole thing more cohesive as long as you blend the concealer in really well, IMO.

commanderbanana

@ghechr Ridiculous in what way? If it's looking really obvious that you have undereye concealer on, I'd try looking for a better color, build it up gradually, and blend blend blend like a madwoman. Or you can try using the Revlon undereye brightener that Jane mentioned in her post. I think if you're going to the trouble to put undereye concealer on, it's probably not that much more trouble to just wear foundation. Or you can try using something like a BB cream (I use Maybelline's BB cream) and just smear it all up on your face like a moisturizer. It has SPF in it too, which is nice. That'll kind of even everything out without giving you the white undereye ring of doom.

cupcakecore@twitter

@ghechr I've used foundation as a concealer, but I think foundation by itself only in spots can be a little obvious, even if it's well blended. I think a tinted moisturizer/bb cream with foundation where you need more coverage and then set with a powder might work better.

ghechr

@KeLynn yeah I mean that I use the foundation under my eyes but no where else and then I feel like it's too obvious looking. If it isn't obvious, I'm a make up novice. I'll look into this BB cream thing and an undereye brightener. In fact, a tinted moisturizer might be just the thing because I want just some very light coverage on my face.

Thanks Pinners!

roaringkitten

the items in my PurseN "classic makeup bag" (pursen.net -- it is an amazing little bag):
bare minerals balance & boost kit from this past xmas (peachy mineral veil w/retractable brush)
caudalie lip balm
hair pins - the goody "bobby slide" (it's a super strong version of a bobby pin for think wavy hair)
one gorgeous shimmery turquoise jaw clip from franceluxe.com
chanel rouge allure in captivante (new spring color)
bobbi brown lip gloss in twilight
MAC plushglass in big baby
maybelline lipstick in refined russet

fave beautyblogs: temptalia, musingsofamuse, and makeupandbeautyblog.
fave beauty youtubers: lisaeldridge and makeupgeek.

cupcakecore@twitter

@roaringkitten I have the same favorite beauty blogs! I also love Scrangie, even though she's more of a nail blog and not updating as much.

roaringkitten

@cupcakecore@twitter i love scrangie too, and the polishaholic. current obsession: metallic glitter polish over black base coat.

SongToSing

I have SO MANY of those "extra storage unit" makeup cases you mention. They tend to gather the Clinique freebies that my Grandma doesn't want, other freebies from a friend who went through beauty school, and about a zillion versions of foundation because you really gotta trial-and-error that stuff.

Plus, I'm a dance teacher and we have a recital at the end of every school year, so I have an entire pouch dedicated to the stuff I wear exactly two days of the year (dress rehearsal and recital): fake eyelashes, sparkles, lipstick, extra dark eyeliner, etc. Stage makeup is really fun, but mostly useless the rest of the year!

Rookie (not the magazine) (not that there's anything wrong with that)

If anyone is still kicking around here, I have a very vague question:

What's a good Lancome product that I should invest in? They're giving away a pretty decent gift with a $35 purchase, so I figure I only need to buy a couple of things to qualify.
Things I am considering: blush, highlighter, primer, brushes, or mascara.

Suggestions are welcome, as are... the opposite of suggestions.

mariko

@Rookie (not the magazine) (not that there's anything wrong with that)

Ohhh where is this deal? I am currently obsessed with their Hypnose Doll Lashes Mascara (creepy name, I know) and their liquid eyeliner called ArtLiner. The mascara like YSL's blush and other products smells heavenly. I know that might seem strange and might not be what you're looking for - but it really makes me feel like a fancy lady.

PS - "Actually it was in gym class. I was trying to climb the ropes and Jerry was spotting me. I kept slipping and burning my thighs and then finally I slipped and fell on Jerry's head. We've been close ever since."

Rookie (not the magazine) (not that there's anything wrong with that)

Best! Thank you!

Also this deal is at Sears in Canada.

MissO

Hi Jane,
I know there are like, 200+ comments here, and you probably won't read this, but I am REALLY jonesing for a new How To Be A Girl video. This harsh winter has got me feeling blue, but a new vid of your sunny self sure would help! Even like, a bloopers reel. You are seriously the best. Please.... Something about make up? Or like, anything?

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