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Hawaii once again comes in first in our national wellbeing "contest," just edging out Colorado and Minnesota. West Virginia again takes the ... anti-cake, I guess, although Mississippi and Kentucky are down there, too. But we all fall within a 10-point spread, so let's just say we're all tied. We're all tied.



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iceberg

Do we have any Hawaiian Pinners? and if so, do they have a guest bedroom with four beds in it just curious no reason WHAT.

raised amongst catalogs

@iceberg You beat me to it! Which means, I suppose, you get dibs on the room with a view.

conniving little shit

@iceberg OT but it's really weird when people use "hawaiian" when they mean hawaii residents. (unless you really mean you want only native hawaiians.)

the roughest toughest frail

@iceberg I used to live in Hawaii! There are some serious pros and cons to island living, but it was generally a lovely place to live.

iceberg

@conniving little shit - Is it? I did not know there was a different rule for Hawaii as opposed to all the other states. I didn't grow up in the US so maybe that's why I never heard that.

conniving little shit

@iceberg i guess if you didn't know that hawaii was its own country before white people came, then yeah you wouldn't know? it's not necessarily usa-centric knowledge... i mean i don't think even most americans know much about hawaii's history pre-pearl harbor

mangosara

@iceberg I am one! A Pinner from HI. But not "Hawaiian," because--yup--generally refers to people of native Hawaiian descent.

Don't live there anymore, though. You could probably camp on my parents' lawn?

iceberg

@conniving little shit Well, yeah, I did know that actually, and I am aware of the indigenous Hawaiian people as opposed to people who live there of whatever race, but since Hawaii is now a state of the US, I thought that people who live there would be referred to as Hawaiians. So I thought it was "indigenous Hawaiian" / "Hawaiian", but you're saying it's actually "Hawaiian" / "Hawaiian resident" ? Thank you for the correction! :)

RK Fire

@conniving little shit Yeah, I knew about the recent history of Hawai'i but I guess I've never formally recognized that the correct way to go about things is native Hawaiian/Hawaiian resident. Totally makes sense though.

Blushingflwr

@conniving little shit So what is the proper terminology for people who live in Hawaii but are not of native Hawaiian descent?

Lisa Frank

@mangosara So Barack Obama is not our First Hawaiian President?

conniving little shit

@Blushingflwr "hawaii residents"/"people from hawaii"? i'm not an ambassador or anything but that's how it normally goes

parallel-lines

@abetterfate I've heard it's expensive as all fucking get out--in a way that makes NYC and SF look reasonable.

litothela

@parallel-lines The cost of living is definitely high in Honolulu and elsewhere - apartments and homes are not as expensive as NYC and SF (from what I know/talking to friends in those cities, at least. Example: 1 bdrm apartment decent sized in Waikiki could be anywhere from 1200-1600/mo), but the rest of everything definitely costs way more due to having to get it all the way out here to the middle of the ocean!

the roughest toughest frail

@parallel-lines Rent is actually a little cheaper, but the cost of living is outrageous, especially since salaries are significantly lower. I earned about 30% less than I would on the mainland, while everything cost at least 30% more.

toastercat

@iceberg I'm an American and Hawaiian did not seem odd to me--just as I would say that I'm a Minnesotan or my friend is Virginian. But it makes sense too that it's a little different since it also refers to indigenous people.

celestrix

@iceberg I live in Honolulu! And yes, it's delightful--my life is measurably better than it was on the mainland. But yes, it's expensive (I rent a room in a house with 4 housemates for $700), I'm white so calling myself Hawaiian is verboten (Hawaiian resident is preferred), and it's far from everything! But also there's a mango tree in my backyard, so life is awesome.

katiemcgillicuddy

Maryland and South Dakota tied at 68.0 and yet somehow they list South Dakota as #11 and Maryland as #12. Yeah, get that shit out of here. Just based on abortion rights alone (NARAL gives MD a grade of "A" while South Dakota gets a grade of "F") Maryland beats South Dakota's ass. Ok, glad I could clear that up.

RK Fire

@katiemcgillicuddy Maryland: Land of Blue Crabs, football, and abortion access.

EDIT: I deleted my comment because you had deleted yours, and I thought it would lose its context!

EDIT#2: katiemcgillicuddy, on a totally different topic, have you seen the cringe-worthy/hilarious Rhianna cover that Adam Jones and Miguel Cabrera did? I saw it and thought of you.

katiemcgillicuddy

@katiemcgillicuddy Ok, I was looking at last years BUT STILL, I'll just be mad about last years. God, I am the worst at commenting these days.

katiemcgillicuddy

@RK Fire Haha, I know, I'm a moron. Also, that should be our new state motto.

katiemcgillicuddy

@RK Fire Good lord, that was ridiculous. Ha, I'm not an O's fan but goddamn, do I love me some Adam Jones.

causedbycomma

@katiemcgillicuddy I am biased as well, but I seriously cannot imagine having a choice of living in MD or SD and being like "YEAH, moving to South Dakota!" But ... I also don't know anyone who lives in SD? Maybe it's great and they're just hiding it so we don't all go there?

RK Fire

@katiemcgillicuddy I am strongly considering asking for/buying myself an Adam Jones jersey/shirt/whatever this year for my birthday. He is fantastic. Anyway, I will save all further sports talk to the FOP, where it belongs. But really, I was dying to share that video with you.

katiemcgillicuddy

@RK Fire Yes, oh so looking forward to FOT, I haven't done it the past few weeks and I neeeeed it.

katiemcgillicuddy

@causedbycomma One of my best friends lived there for a little while and she hated it, so I just have that in my head (although she found weed growing in the wild, which I only just remembered now so, hey, go South Dakota!) It may well be a fine place in other ways, but I feel like any time I hear anything about it, it's hey, we don't like giving women rights over their bodies, woohoo!

par_parenthese

@causedbycomma Western SD = GORGEOUS, no seriously. Ridiculously beautiful and so much more reasonable than lots of other tourist attractions, and charming little towns and delicious German restaurants are EVERYWHERE. So if you really wanted to, like, have a writing-retreat type cabin with nobody around for miles, then I feel like you'd move to SD?

katiemcgillicuddy

@par_parenthese Okay, that actually sounds pretty sweet, now I kind of want to go to there.

H.E. Ladypants

@par_parenthese Yes! The Black Hills! The Black Hills are totally what SD has going for it. Well that and the Sturgis Motorcycle Rally but you have to be in a particular frame of mind for that one.

Also, if you have any interest in Lakota culture, that's also a thing.

allendaniel

better then ever!@a

pajamaralls

The South representin' in the bottom 10!

And South Carolina being one of the better of the worst in what is a seemingly small span? Is that how math works?

par_parenthese

@pajamaralls I don't know if that's how math works but I have deduced that, apparently, my former state is in the top three and my current state is in the bottom three. GREAT.

Emby

I like how even though the dateline for the story is Washington, DC, Gallup could give a flying fuck about DC residents' well-being index.

Emby

@Emby "Washingtonian, how would you rate your emotional health, work environment, and physical health on a scale from 1 to go get fucked?"

causedbycomma

@Emby I'm glad I'm not the only one who is incredibly annoyed at this.

Blushingflwr

@Emby Well, you know, no one actually lives here. That's why tourists are free to treat it like a playground they don't have to clean up.

causedbycomma

@Blushingflwr To be fair, the residents treat it that way too.

katiemcgillicuddy

@causedbycomma Seconded. It's not the first time I've seen shit like this leave DC out either. I guess no voting rights = haha, you don't exist.

Emby

@causedbycomma Looking further, they've conflated DC residents into MD and Virginia, but you can't actually break out DC by itself. And it's considered a metro area for both MD and VA, and I'm not sure how those stats play out in each of those states' indices. That seems like a statistical clusterfuck.

Blushingflwr

@Emby I am technically a MD resident but I think my well-being would be dramatically improved if I lived in the District, if for no other reason that that my commute time would decrease.

stuffisthings

@Emby They just left us off because we'd break the chart because we're so awesome.

stuffisthings

@stuffisthings OH NO now I've gone and missed my gay abortion appointment, and I can't write my Member of Congress because I don't have one. Should I go out to spend my tiny paycheck on $14 cocktails or just stay home in my microscopic, overpriced apartment? (J/k I <3 DC) [That's what my license plate would say if I HAD A CAR WHICH I DON'T EVEN NEED]

ETA: Yikes, I really probably shouldn't drink on this cold medicine.

Rock and Roll Ken Doll

@stuffisthings
All kinds of places in socialist America disallow employment and housing discrimination against trans people, whatever, but only DC has the temerity to put up posters about it!

Bittersweet

@stuffisthings Your license plates say "Taxation without Representation" which is AWESOME.

Uh...the fact that it's on a license plate is awesome, not the fact itself, which sucks hairy balls.

causedbycomma

@Bittersweet It was more awesome when the President had those plates. Also, @Blushingflwr, the only reason I live in DC is because I can walk to my office.

toastercat

@all Slightly OT but since this is a DC comment thread--we're planning a Pinup for either the 22nd or 29th so if you have a preference, get to the Facebook page and vote for it!

par_parenthese

The... anti-cake is a lie?

par_parenthese

@par_parenthese (I'msorryI'msosorryIhadtodoitIcouldn'tstopmyself)

RK Fire

@par_parenthese God, Portal jokes are just as boring as being an outspoken atheist Democrat.

Just kidding! Still Alive is stuck in my head right now and it is all your fault.

whizz_dumb

@par_parenthese I thought pie was the anti-cake, in which case, I will take the anti-cake every time.

par_parenthese

@whizz_dumb Me toooooo. The cake is a BORE, more like it! (Wocka wocka)

@RK Fire EMBRACE YOUR INNER BORING PERSON

Pariah Carey

The quality of life here in Minnesota is quite high if you can figure out how to keep the crippling seasonal depression at bay.

Plenty of tall people to date, if you're into that sort of thing!

martinipie

@Pariah Carey I must say, your pin-name is rad as hell.

par_parenthese

@Pariah Carey Dutch/Scandanavian men. Uff-da.

parallel-lines

@Pariah Carey I grew up in Minnesota and I love Minnesota but I don't live in Minnesota because that kind of cold WILL FUCKING BREAK YOU. Everyone I know who lives there is borderline suicidal this time of year. In retirement, Minnesotans are happy to live in any butthole area of Texas or Arizona because it's warm and who cares if scorpions live in your shoe and everything is brown because it's warm god damn it.

Also, I am tall. And blonde. SKOL!

adorable-eggplant

@parallel-lines Haha, as a Texan, yes OMG warmth. Which is why I can never cross the 30th parallel north.

parallel-lines

@adorable-eggplant My mother moved to Lubbock and I was like, "Mom, this place is terrible, WTF." and she was like, "I know but it snows once a year, ONCE A YEAR!!!"

NeverOddOrEven

@parallel-lines
Still here. I grow to love it more year by year (couldn't wait to leave when I was younger), but SAD is very real and very unpleasant. I have more anger directed at snow and darkness right now than just about anything in my life, ever.
But the cold... I hate to say it, but as I get older it bothers me less. I have a dog for the first time and was without a car until fairly recently, and ironically it's much more tolerable once you're out walking around in it.
Cold walk > Cold car.

parallel-lines

@NeverOddOrEven I hear you--and getting around without a car, wow--that's impressive. The cold/SAD thing is what keeps us from buying a house there, my husband says he just can't cope with anything below 30 degrees so I think it would actually kill him. I don't mind the cold, just the grayness/days without sunlight.

Pariah Carey

@NeverOddOrEven The cold bothers me less now. I'm totally one of those long-o jovial Minnesotans in line at the grocery store bein' all "Oh, it's not too bad out today! The wind seems to have died down!" on 20-degree days.

And I certainly wasn't trying to make light of SAD in my initial comment. I've had to seek treatment. Got myself a spendy light box.

NeverOddOrEven

@Pariah Carey Oh, no! I didn't think you were. I think it's just one of those things people underestimate in general.

The Lady of Shalott

@adorable-eggplant I had to go look where the 30th parallel was--I thought it was way down in Belize or something, because I have many times passed over the 45th parallel--famously halfway between the equator and the North Pole--and clearly I have no sense of space whatsoever.

Sunny Schomaker

@NeverOddOrEven As a Wisconsin native, I have to say that the gray and the seemingly endless barrage of snow are more oppressive than the cold (although I've never been a fan). However glum I am in February, May and September always make up for it.

adorable-eggplant

@parallel-lines I have seen snow fewer than 10 times in my life (including the times I saw snow on trips to New Mexico, DC, and Rhode Island) so that's a pretty sound reason to move to Texas. That said, you couldn't pay me to live in Lubbock.

NeverOddOrEven

@Sunny Schomaker
That's why I'm always thrown by results like this. I can only imagine it's the result of things being extra awesome when juxtaposed against winter. Which you're only about 3 months removed from at any given time.

baked bean

@Sunny Schomaker So here in Missouri, we had two big (for here) snow storms that added up to about 20 inches in one week. We usually get snow 3-4 times a year but most of the time that'll be less than 4 inches. I think I would die in Minnesota/Wisconsin/Canada. I'm ready for spring.

bellekaren

@Pariah Carey
I love my light box. And I live in upstate New York :(

iceberg

@parallel-lines send your mom to coastal GA it's snowed like 3 times in the last 20 years and all of it melts in about 5 seconds.

Renleigh

@bellekaren I also live in upstate NY (and am named Karen) and I probably should really have a light box because the past couple months have been especially brutal and I'm probably not going to wind up moving somewhere sunnier until after next winter, if that. What kind do you have (and anyone else in this thread)?

NeverOddOrEven

@parallel-lines
To be fair, we were living in Uptown at the time, so buses and Hour Cars abounded, and the grocery store was a bock and a half away.
And LOTS of good bars and restaurants.

bellekaren

@Renleigh Woo Karen's in upstate NY! I have this one because my doctor recommended it. Like I said, I like it a lot but I don't know how it compares to any others!

leonstj

big D....spacing...big A...OH MAN IT'S D'ANGELO NEWS!!!!

Oh wait. It just turns out living everywhere is kinda....meh. I guess D's get degrees, though.

litothela

I just moved to Hawaii from Canada! Are there no other pinners here? It is quite a lovely paradise. And definitely brings more general weather-joy than Canadian winters...

conniving little shit

@litothela i think weather and safety-wise it's pretty much perfect, but socially/culturally... not so much. i feel like i'm bringing the ambiance of this thread down but it's important to think of hawaii as a Real Place with its own problems, rather than some imagined paradise.

litothela

@conniving little shit
Absolutely with you there =). I've been here for about 6 months and working in healthcare, definitely starting to get the full sense of the social-cultural issues (that are the real cause of 'island fever' for me).

frigwiggin

Well, California isn't in the top 10 or the bottom 10. Mediocrity ahoy!

Jinxie

@frigwiggin Woot!

Creature Cheeseman

Louisiana was ranked #1 for happiest state just a couple of years ago. How did we fall so far?

Derbel McDillet

@Creature Cheeseman I would guess the cuisine increases happiness while decreasing well-being (same for drive-through liquor stores?). I would move back to La. for those two reasons alone, though!

par_parenthese

@Derbel McDillet Drive-thru frozen boozy drinks = just the best thing ever in a place about three degrees and 1% humidity shy of the Amazon rainforest. The top of the straw wrapper makes it a closed container! How great is that?

Derbel McDillet

@par_parenthese Yes! The drive-thru liquor store in the town I lived in sold eggnog slushies during the winter season. They were essentially boozy vanilla milkshakes! And there was a "family size"!

EpWs

I am attempting to bake Kentucky out of its anti-cake status with ACTUAL CAKE.

par_parenthese

@The Everpresent Wordsnatcher

*waves at you from East Louisville*
*holds out plate for actual cake*

EpWs

@par_parenthese If you start driving now, by the time you get to Lexington I can have a cake out of the oven and cooling to the perfect temperature. ALL THE CAKE.
*waves*

lasso tabasco

NEBRASKA REPRESENT!!! #6, ya'll! Must be the corn.

terrific

another day, another item for the "move to Colorado! move to Colorado!" evidence box.

fondue with cheddar

@terrific My boyfriend went to UC and he talks about moving back there ALL THE TIME. We currently live in New Jersey, which falls a little short of the middle. I've only ever lived here, so I don't have anything to really compare it to (visiting doesn't count).

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