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Thursday, December 13, 2012

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Beauty Q&A: Do You Smell What I Smell?

1. Evidently smoking interacts with your perfume and makes you smell bad. I'm quitting smoking (Crowd: "Yay!") but my entire bottle of perfume stinks now because I smoked around it. Also, I can't guarantee that I've quit forever at any given point in time because cigarettes mystically tend to light themselves around me and put themselves in my mouth. But I have really cut down a LOT, I promise! (Crowd: "WTF.")

So... is there something I can do to not smell bad while I try to quit for good? Orrr, hypothetically if I just give up and smoke like a chimney, am I doomed to smell horrific for the rest of my life while perfumes mutate in weird ways around me?

Okay, first of all, I have never heard of what you are talking about with the perfume, but I'll take your word for it. We do know that perfumes act crazy in sunlight or heat, so it's possible that yours is may not be sealed all the way and is reacting to the bad air around it, yep. I have another theory, but first, let me just remind everyone that I smoked a pack a day for 15 years (gross) so I'm not blowing smoke (hi-yo!) up your ass with the forthcoming advice. I have smelt it, and I have dealt it.

I don't think your perfume is changing as much as your sense of smell is. When you flop back and forth between quitting smoking and starting again, you're really taking your nose for a ride and it doesn't know WHAT smells good or bad anymore. In fact, you don't even know what smells bad to begin with because when you're around an offputting scent for long enough, you become immune to it. It's called olfactory fatigue. Your brain cuts you a break, otherwise it would bother you 24/7. Haven't you had that experience of being on day three of not smoking and you go to sort your dirty laundry when WHAM! It hits you... "Ohhhmygoddd, I have been walking around smelling like shit!" The nonsmokers in your life have been reluctantly putting up with that every day, if you can imagine their plight. (Excluding those who love the smell of stale cigarette smoke. Hi mom!)

I think while you continue to partake, your priority should be getting rid of the bad smell that's already on you. First of all, stop smoking in your house. Okay great. Now, when I smoked, this L'Oreal hair deodorant came in a few varieties and they even sold a pocket-sized bottle for your purse. Nowadays, I think dry shampoo has pretty much taken over. Suave's is three dollars and has a lemony scent that'll help you neutralize the smoke, but go for Klorane's version if you can find it as their scent is less obvious and the product brushes out a better. If you're at Sephora, pick up the travel-size Oscar Blandi.

To deodorize your clothes, here's a recipe for an all natural fabric deodorizer you can make at home. And guess what? It calls for your favorite scented essential oil! It contains vegetable glycerin (available at Whole Foods or a natural market) which will help the oil mix with the water so you don't get any oil spots on your clothes; just shake well before you spray. If you can, hang whatever you're not going to wash right away outside your window before you go to bed.

And quit smoking or I will never ever talk to you again, ever. But if you do a good job, well, then you can be my best friend. My best friend that I've ever had. You hear me? 

2. My natural hair color is "dark blonde" (light brown?), but I've been highlighting it for ages and ages and feel like I'm blonde to the core. The thing is, I can't seem to get it done professionally without spending anywhere less than $200. I am a graduate student now and that chunk of change every few months really puts a hurting on my booze fund. SO, is there a way to get highlights for cheaper? I have been a real Groupon/Living Social junkie for a while now, but it's always a crap shoot, and I can't even tell if it's a good deal most of the time. I have had more than one horrendous at home hair-coloring incident and am quite inept at most things hair related at home. I have a feeling there might be no real solution to my problem, but I knew that if anyone had one it would be you.

[DISCLAIMER: If you are using Groupons and Living Social, I assume you live in a major metropolitan area. The following advice doesn't address the cost of these services in non-major cities, where things are cheaper. First hot tip? Get them done out of town where things are cheaper!]

What is UP with some Groupons, especially beauty-related ones? You know how many possible meth fronts I've gotten eyelash extensions in only to go back for a touchup and have it be a tattoo parlor/head shop and the girl behind the counter tell me she's been selling bongs there for 10 years and has no idea what I'm talking about I must've made up this so-called Ghost Eyelash Extension Store? Man.

This is a really tough question because you're right, there is no solution that gets you the perfect, cheap highlights you're asking for. Barring a stylist best friend or aunt who could do you the favor of cutting you a deal while you finish school, this just isn't the sort of thing that can reliably turn out well on a tight budget. At the root of the high cost is the time it takes to do a good job. Highlights are not a one-hour in-and-out endeavor. You have to at least pay someone for the afternoon you're taking up. Even at the cheapest places, you're still looking at $90. And at that point it's like, do you really want to save $60 to have them done by someone maybe not-so-experienced? And then at that point, why not just throw in another $30 and get your ideal highlights? And don't forget the tip! This is not a single color thrown on top of gray roots — highlights are art and creating flattering ones is difficult, as evidenced by how many obvious **HIGHLIGHTS** you see out there.

You're in luck, though, as your timing for this problem couldn't be better given the look of obvious roots is actually in right now. I mean, technically it's on it's way out, that's how popular it is, like the name Ava, but you don't have to worry about that if you're not a fashion icon. Next time you go in, tell your stylist you'd like some lowlights thrown in to make the roots less noticeable and that you'd like to transition to an ombré look — lighter at the ends, darker toward the roots. This will allow you to go a lot longer between touchups, and it might bust you out of the thing you've been doing for ages. Plenty of my not-particularly-beauty-skilled friends ombré their hair at home. Here's how to do it by lightening the ends, and here's a girl biting the bullet and just darkening her roots in one fell swoop:

3. I want to wear boots with my pants tucked in like everyone I know, but I don't know how. I'm a size 10, and I'm pretty sure I can't rock skinny jeans so all of my pants have relatively wide openings (not like, bell bottoms or anything, just normal). Is there a way to avoid that weird bunching that happens near my knee whenever I stand up? Or are tight jeans my only option?

Close your eyes and imagine your doppleganger wearing this dream outfit with the boots. What type of jean is she wearing? Are hers bunching anywhere? I think a slimmer cut pant is the way to go here, but remember that if you're wearing tallish boots, it completely changes the proportions of your outfit and you may LIKE the way the jeans look on you. The only part that will be visible will be from your knees up, so who cares if the bottoms don't look so great when you're not wearing boots? No one will see that!

I know that for me, pairing skinny jeans with flats or sneakers can look... I dunno, I feel wider in my midsection. Tweedle Dee'd. The top of my head is pointy and then my feet are pointy, but the middle can look out-of-whack. But in boots? No problem! It's probably got something to do with the golden mean. At any rate, take your boots to the store with you along with socks that aren't too bulky and start trying them on with a variety of slimmer-legged jeans until you find the look you envision.

4. If you could please just answer quickly and put us out of our misery: This kind of ponytail is not even possible, right? Therefore we should never attempt one, because we might as well try to make our cars run on Fanta?

It is possible if you have really long hair OR if you have a ponytail extension. Either way, the main thing going on here is you have to tease the SHIT out of the back of your hair. Teasing will use up a lot of the length of your natural hair, so let's experiment to see if you'll need some artificial help.

First, on clean, dry hair, make a deep part and section off the front of your hair that you want to remain smooth. This will be bangs or all of your hair from your ears forward — just clip it out of the way. Now, with the hair from the crown down to the nape of your neck, take a comb like this and just rat, rat, rat, rat. Use a volumizing powder to help the ratting stay, rat some more, hairspray, and then rat even more. What you'll have is a big mess in the back of your head. (Should look like the mess in this video.) Now, taking a tufted bristle brush, pretend that big ratted ball of hair is clay and mold it into the right shape by lightly brushing the surface hairs into place, not-too-deeply. Just mold the hair into that huge bump shape in back, gather your hair into a ponytail at the base of your skull, and secure withe an elastic. Now, if your hair is long enough, brush out the ponytail so it's not ratty anymore and take a ½" wide chunk of hair and wrap it around the elastic in order to cover it up. Secure with a bobby pin.

If you don't have long hair, this ponytail extension (pictured) will do the trick. Or this cheaper one. 

5. I have had a frustration with my eyes and eye make up for ages: for some reason, whenever I have experimented with eye liner, it makes my eyes look small. I have never tried false eyelashes, but I've a feeling that might do the same thing. Maybe it's my coloring? Is there a specific eyeliner trick for blue eyes? I generally just put on some eye shadow and mascara, then hope for the best.

First of all, stop worrying about the size of your eyes. Some people have small ones and some people have big ones and some people have NONE. So what?

Second, yes, drawing dark circles around your eyes can cause them to recede, and therefore look smaller. Let's shoot for a different style of eyeliner for you. (And once you've mastered it, go ahead with those false lashes!)

Applying makeup is not dissimilar to drawing or painting. Remember drawing a still life of like, an apple when you were in school? You'd start to draw a circle and it immediately looks like crap; like a drawing of an apple and not the apple itself. That's because you were drawing what you knew to be the shape of the apple, but not what your brain actually perceived when you looked at the apple. The side of the apple where the light hits it? There's no big black line on that side, right? And that half that looks to be in shadow? It's no longer apple green on that side, right? The shadow is actually... if you look carefully... purple? Weird, but that's how you have to draw it. Think of makeup that way. If you want your eyes to look larger with makeup, you have to trick us. I want you to look at this picture of Angelina Jolie's eyeliner. This is a very subtle, simple makeup look — and there's your black liner with blue eyes! — which contains a bit of an optical illusion:

See how far beyond the outer corner of her eye the eyeliner extends? The winged part is nearly as wide as her pupil. Are you overdrawing yours this much? I'm not even sure what look you want, but for whatever look you desire, I suggest truly studying in detail a photo of someone successfully achieving it. You might be surprised by what you see if you just let your eyes absorb what's actually going on, instead of thinking "eyeliner must follow the lines of your eyes."

Previously: If You See Something, Say Something.

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277 Comments / Post A Comment

synchronized
synchronized

When did this whole Everyone-Tuck-Skinny-Jeans-Into-Riding-Boots thing become A THING, anyway? This can't be the first year the look has been popular, but suddenly it's inescapable. I was in line for coffee the other day and noticed every other female in that line had her jeans tucked into big brown boots.

Hey, the look is pretty cute -- I have a pair of riding boots, too! And I can appreciate the power of a fashion trend. But the more I see women wearing the exact same thing from the waist down, the more I want to keep my boots in the closet.

FromTheFuture

@synchronized also... my friend calls this style "Fakequestrian"

synchronized
synchronized

@FromTheFuture So apt.

Beatrix Kiddo

@synchronized I think it became A THING about five years ago? And probably because it's really flattering (at least, on me, and everyone who worries about their thighs).

cuminafterall

@synchronized I like it because I enjoy wearing thick comfy socks, but hate how they look!

It's fun to go on Polyvore, though, and see the many permutations of skinny jeans-boots-shirt-cardigan-infinity scarf.

synchronized
synchronized

@Beatrix Kiddo That long ago? Wow. I spent most of that time living in a warmer climate where boots were mostly out of the question, so perhaps that's why this all seems so sudden to me.

cuminafterall

@Beatrix Kiddo Five years ago, the boots in question were Uggs, though, right? Maybe I only think that because I was in college at the time.

I'm Right on Top of that, Rose

@synchronized It's actually really handy when you live in a place with a lot of snow/slush/ice because good, leather boots can handle those conditions with the proper care and as a bonus your pants stay clean and dry.

synchronized
synchronized

@I'm Right on Top of that, Rose That makes sense. I live in the South, where there's not as much practicality to it -- just trendiness and flattering lines, I guess.

I'm Right on Top of that, Rose

@FromTheFuture I call it my Katniss outfit.

Theda Baranowski

@synchronized It's my default weekend outfit, I have to admit - along with every other woman under 45 in Chicago, it seems like. But hey. I can wear my warm Carhartt socks and still look like a modern city dweller who has never seen the inside of a Farm and Fleet?

Not that there's anything wrong with that, unless you spent a large portion of your childhood inside a Farm and Fleet. And if this starts an argument over whether it's Farm and Fleet or Fleet Farm, I salute my rural sisters to the north.

kellyography

@Beatrix Kiddo This is when I started looking for my very own black riding boots. Due to athletic calves, I didn't find them until this year, and honestly, I like them better with skirts rather than jeans.

But I'm also a size 10 (somehow/how did this happen/don't I still have size 4 jeans in the closet somewhere?) and I wear low-rise skinny jeans (not tapered, just pretty slim) both with and without boots. You just have to find a pair that looks right on you.

bocadelperro

@cuminafterall About a month ago, I missed my train and got stuck at the Palo Alto, CA train station for an hour, and I realized that every woman under 40 (myself included) was wearing calf-length boots with skinny jeans tucked into them, a big sweater and a scarf. Sadly, this hasn't stopped me from wearing a variation on this outfit at least twice a week.

cuminafterall

@bocadelperro I've been changing it up by wearing my boots with skirts/dresses and tights! (And a big sweater, and a scarf.)

SuperGogo

@synchronized I dunno. I started doing this when I got my brown riding boots (fakequestrian indeed), but now I've stopped because I don't think it looks flattering on me AT ALL. In fact, I started looking around and realized it's not very flattering on most women (with the rare exception of women who are built like gazelles). It makes them look way more pear-shaped than they actually are, IMHO. I still love wearing my boots with a skirt and tights, but I'm done with the skinny-jean-and-tall-boot thing, trendy or not.

SuperGogo

@cuminafterall Right? Nearly the same uniform, but way more flattering!

SuperGogo

@SuperGogo Uh oh, I just read farther down the thread, and everyone thinks skinny jeans are hella flattering. So I'm the only one who...doesn't? If so, please ignore me and do you and I'll do me (sans skinny jeans).

KeLynn

@synchronized - I guess I don't know how many other ways you can wear jeans in the winter, other than skinny jeans and boots.

Yeah you could wear bootcut jeans over ankle boots I guess but....it looks kind of derpy IMO. At least on me. And your jeans get wet. Any any other shoe is going to be cold.

To me it's just the winter version of jeans and ballet flats - everyone wears it because it's so practical. I don't think of it as a trend really.

faustbanana

@synchronized I started noticing it among hipster types around 2004-05, but it only became ubiquitous in the past 3-4 years. I bought my first pair of knee-high boots in 2001, and even though I was wearing them with a dress (which I didn't think was particularly fashion-forward at the time) my roommate was like "WHAT are those shoes you're wearing? They're so weird!" and I was like :\

Jane, tell your mom to come hang out with me and we can seek out stale cigarette smoke smells together. It's especially piquant when found drifting out out of an open tavern door, mixed with stale beer smell, during daylight hours.

bocadelperro

@cuminafterall I love skirts and tights, too, but my skin is a bit too fragile to wear my boots without something significant between it and them, so I've taken to wearing wedges/tights/skirts. Then I saw that yesterday's hipster animal was more-or-less wearing my clothes. Sigh. Apparently I'm a very uncreative dresser.

Ugh, apparently I can't do links right anymore. Here is yesterday's hipster animal: http://24.media.tumblr.com/a7f260c170aad75979522365bc44bebf/tumblr_mewdfrkpxh1qj2bqyo1_r1_1280.jpg

cuminafterall

@SuperGogo I like my skinny jeans, but trying on the wrong pair is disastrous. Zara jeans, for instance, give me nightmares.

cuminafterall

@bocadelperro The IKEA Monkey!! At least you're in good company.

synchronized
synchronized

@KeLynn But everyone seems to be wearing the same boot style and color now, too. I think there's more to this look than sheer usefulness.

snowmentality

@KeLynn I just wear boot-cut or straight-leg jeans over knee-high boots? It doesn't look weird, at least not on me. Whereas skinny jeans *do* look weird on me, because I'm size 10 and somewhat pear-shaped, and skinny jeans make my hips look HUGE.

I also wear jeans with Doc Martens, because I went to high school in the '90s and I still think Docs are comfortable.

Of course, I do live in the South where "winter" is a relative term.

Alli525

@synchronized I mean, it feels like a little of a Kate Middleton thing too, when she started showing up to Will's polo games looking all fly...

Scandyhoovian

@Alli525 I'm a 14/16 depending and I love my skinny jeans + boots combo. I think the key, though, is that the skinnies have to be in darker shades? They look horrible in that gorgeous mustardy yellow color I really wish I could wear them in, but they look amazing in black/indigo/purple/etc. Also, Old Navy's Rock Star jeans? SO STRETCHY. SO CLINGY. SO PERFECT FOR PUTTING IN JEANS. And the best thing is they don't break the bank, since they're Old Navy.

NeverOddOrEven

@I'm Right on Top of that, Rose
Yea, when you're tomboyish and live in a wintery climate it's not a fashion statement, it's just life man.

Better to Eat You With

@SuperGogo I think skinny jeans look pretty terrible on almost everyone.

Beatrix Kiddo

@cuminafterall I think 5 or 6 years because that's when I finished grad school, and that's where I saw so many people wearing knee-high heeled boots with jeans tucked in. At the time, I hated it, but I've become a convert.

Verity

@snowmentality Yes, so do I. It's annoying, because I live in the UK and it's rainy a lot (hence why everyone tucks their jeans into their boots), but I don't own any skinny jeans (I am not skinny. It seems unwise), and I can't get my boots over my jeans. So, boots (ankle/knee-high) under jeans.

Angelena@twitter

@synchronized and everyone else. i had no idea this was a thing! am i dense!? every couple years i just buy some boots, like whatever is cute and normal thats in the stores, and then obviously tuck my pants into them because duh snow and salt will ruin your jeans instantly. i also have snow boots for snow. i live in nebraska if that makes more sense. i had no idea people viewed this as a "hipster trend" w/backlash. maybe i shouldn't move to a bigger city. feeling so0o0 disillusioned and kind of having an existential crisis right now.

synchronized
synchronized

@Angelena@twitter Haha, don't feel disillusioned! As I said upthread, I've been living in places where it neeeever snows, so seeing this look around here tells me it's just become a trend. And it's not so much of a hipster thing -- it's kind of an everyone thing! It makes a lot more sense if you live in Nebraska.

oboe-d-amore

@synchronized I like Old Navy skinny jeans because the calves are less skinny than a lot of places. Like, they're definitely still skinny jeans, but almost more straight-leg? But in a good way. I have trouble often with thigh-waist-calf ratios (and actually think my calves are fairly slim regarding my proportions?), but theirs are great. NY&Co used to have THE BEST skinny jeans, but now the fabric is way too thin and waist is higher.

Rookie (not the magazine) (not that there's anything wrong with that)

@oboe-d-amore I think this whole boots thing is because of Michael Kors. He needed a stylish wintery equivalent to those monogrammed ballet flats so that everyone can continue to dress alike even when the warm weather ends.

Am I right, though, that there's an inordinate amount of girls with long straight hair, loose-fitting shirt, skinny jeans/leggings, and MK footwear + purse? or is that just a Montreal thing?

oboe-d-amore

@oboe-d-amore Um, I fail and posted this in the wrong thread. Whoops!

isitisabel

@muzivitch There are places where Fleet Farm is called Farm and Fleet? Whaaat?

BFG
BFG

@muzivitch Fleet Farm is clearly where it's at. I was so confused as a child when I would see Farm and Fleets. Also, I'm still working on living in an urban environment and attempting to look like I don't buy clothes--especially outer wear--at Fleet Farm. I live in hope because you say it's possible.

255
255

@synchronized I saw it everywhere and it leeched into my brain and last week I bought 2 pairs of combat/lace up leather boots. They are so comfy, it's raining here/so practical, and I am officially lame! YOLO.

But then thanks @KeLynn "To me it's just the winter version of jeans and ballet flats - everyone wears it because it's so practical. I don't think of it as a trend really."

FromTheFuture

Lady 3: I am a size 10 and I wear skinny jeans. And I look great-- I'm doing it right now.

You can wear skinny jeans.

A. Louise

@FromTheFuture Same here! I love my size 10 skinny jeans. I'd say start out with a dark pair - they tend to be more flattering - until you feel skinny-jean confident!

wearitcounts

@FromTheFuture cosigning as a size 10/12 skinny-jean-wearer. you will look hot, i am positive.

Summer Somewhere

@FromTheFuture I'm a size 12/14 and I love these high-waist stretchy skinny jeans I got last summer. They tuck easily into boots and they look awesome.

aphrabean

@FromTheFuture Size 10 skinny-jean wearer also co-signing, who personally thinks women on the non-skinny end of the spectrum look AMAZING in skinny jeans. Like: POW. So beautiful! So confident! Also this whole "Curve ID" thing that Levi's is doing has been a game changer for me.

Summer Somewhere

@aphrabean Agreed, I love seeing a chubby/fat lady in skinny jeans and boots. When I wear that stuff it feels like I have armor on.

parallel-lines

@aphrabean Have you noticed they've really decreased the offerings for the 'bold curve' line? I'm super annoyed that I can only get those in one color and they don't make them in black. WTF, levis--everyone needs black jeans!

muralgirl

@FromTheFuture Hey, I'm a 12-14 skinny jean wearer. I look hot! No really. I'm pretty sure I do. And I have definitely seen even larger women rocking them. There's no limit. You just have to figure out what makes you comfortable.

zavrrr

@FromTheFuture I would totally say that your overall body shape/proportions matter more in terms of whether skinny jeans work for you than size.

madge

@FromTheFuture fuck, i'm a size 20 and i wear skinny jeans! skinny jeans are awesome! i agree with jane that it's more about proportion than size. i have skinny legs, so i like to wear boots with my skinnies to bulk up my calves a little bit and balance out my belly-ish area.

keristars

@FromTheFuture I have a pair of skinny omgteal chinos from Loft instead of jeans, but with the right tops? yup, I'm a size 12 with really wide hips, and it looks great!

can't get them to tuck into my boots, though, without the saggy gappy wrinkled knees, which is sad.

wearitcounts

@zavrrr i would agree with you, but also think people should wear what makes 'em happy and say fuck it.

aphrabean

@parallel-lines I DID notice that and have perhaps written an email or two or three to Levi's expressing my dismay. To no effect thus far, sadly.

maiasaura

@parallel-lines On the subject of curve ID and black jeans, has anyone else noticed that the sizing really varies by color/fabric? I have the demi curve straight jeans in black and blue and my black ones fit a little snug, despite being a size bigger than the blue ones which are slightly too big for me. WTF, Levis. WTF. (That said, I totally love curve ID, because my hips and my waist do not generally agree about what size I am and also they come in a 34" inseam, which is my JAM.)

zavrrr

@wearitcounts oh i agree, i'm just saying size doesn't really matter. there are people at all points on the size spectrum who are gonna look great in them, and people at all points that won't

aphrabean

@maiasaura 34" inseam yes! My understanding of factory-made clothing sizing is that they cut the fabric in a big stack, mechanically, so you can have a fairly big variance within the same size. So it's always good to try on a couple of different pairs in the same color/size to make sure they fit right. (Though, fellow 34"-er, that can be hard to do sometimes.)

wearitcounts

@aphrabean THIS. this is the absolute truth.

highfivesforall

@FromTheFuture So true. I am more like a 12, I have a giant butt and some serious calves, so I thought skinny jeans were out for me. Not so! I really like H&M's skinny leg jeans, which also have two-number sizing so you can get ones that actually fit the length of your legs, or close enough that the bunching doesn't look ridiculous. And they have a jillion shades and colors and they are cheap (all mine were less than $30, not on sale) and I wear them every daaaaaaaaaay!

Lily Rowan

I don't understand how skinny jeans fit on non-skinny thighs. I mean, I've tried some on and literally couldn't get them pulled up.

madge

@Lily Rowan spandex

OxfordComma

@Lily Rowan : Get the ones with a leetle bit of stretch--they make all the difference in the world.

Also, I've gotten all of my skinnies either hemmed or cuffed so that my ankles show when I'm wearing flats--it makes me look leaner, and not so much with the Babar-the-Elephant calves. (heh. see what I did there?)

Seriously, if the skinnies aren't working out for you, find some with stretch, and then see what they look like cuffed just above your ankle--I guarantee it will be more flattering.

Lily Rowan

@madge Yeah, as a child of the 80s that is terrifying to me, but maybe I can do it.

KatieBarTheDoor

@FromTheFuture THANK YOU, I was going to come down here and kind of irritatedly say the same thing. Nothing wrong with a size 10, girl! (And FWIW, I am currently wearing size 8 black skinny jeans tucked into slouchy faux-suede boots. And I now feel like a total stereotype, but it looks awesome.)

OxfordComma

@Lily Rowan : Anthropolgie's Pilcro line is friendly to large asses--I just bought a pair in a beautiful teal color--soft, flattering, and affordable once they go on sale.

Lily Rowan

@OxfordComma I will give it one more shot, and try them on with the boots. But really, the part of my legs I don't like is where my thighs bulge out from my knees. I think maybe the skinnies actually aren't for me.

Megasus

@FromTheFuture I am more like a 16/18 and I rock skinny jeans, and I DIDN'T rock skinny jeans when I was a size 10 because apparently I have brain problems.

MoxyCrimeFighter

@Lily Rowan Spandexxxxx! I'm anywhere from an 8 to a 12, depending on the store, the cut, the time of the month, if I've eaten breakfast and lunch, if Mercury is in retrograde, etc, etc, and I have pretty full thighs, and spandex or some otherwise stretchy material is key. I usually try not to go above 4 or 5 percent, because I like the stiffness of the denim to sort of mold everything into some sexy firmness, but that little bit of stretchy additive goes a long way.

Also, if you're having trouble getting them over your thighs, size up! A lot of skinny jeans don't size up perfectly evenly - they sort of go in an inverted triangle, where the calf part doesn't necessarily increase proportionally to the waist and thighs, if that makes sense? So you'll get pretty much the same skinny fit on your lower legs, with more room above, and if the waist is too big, then that's why God invented belts.

Lily Rowan

OK! I will report back. Possibly in February.

ayo nicole

@FromTheFuture Word. Size 8, sometimes 10, at one point a 12, have always looked awesome in skinny jeans. I'm mostly booty & thighs, too. I swear by Forever 21's jeans because they are probably closer to leggings (for the booty) and are about $10.

snowmentality

@MoxyCrimeFighter I tried to buy skinny jeans this way. I ended up with a size 12 pair that fit my thighs and hips, but was really tight around my calves and was FOUR INCHES too big at the waist. I realize skinny jeans are supposed to be snug around the calves, but this pair just felt uncomfortably tight. And I don't even know what to do with four extra inches of waist. Take in some very serious darts at the back?

I suspect Target just does not make skinny jeans for people with a waist-hip ratio less than 1.

OxfordComma

@snowmentality : Target, Gap, Old Navy all pretty much equal BOO for buying skinny jeans--at least, that's been my experience (big ass, little waist, big thighs, small calves). I get almost all of my jeans tailored because most stores don't cater to ladies with a large disparity between hips and waists.

BornSecular

@snowmentality This is what I hate about skinny jeans! Maybe I just have monster calves, but I can barely get them over my calves. And then they are so uncomfortable! I've taken to wearing tons of leggings and boots because they stretch and trying on jeans is depressing.

BornSecular

@BornSecular Also, I have found that making sure my top at least covers most of my butt helps with the proportion thing, and makes me feel not as awkward in skinny jeans or leggings.

wallsdonotfall

@snowmentality Bodies are so WEIRD, because I have a serious hourglass thing going on, and Target's Fit 3 skinny jeans are the only ones that have ever fit both my butt and my waist at the same time.

edit: obviously I have to wear a belt, but that's true for every bottom-half garment on this earth except for tights.

OxfordComma

@wallsdonotfall : Sisterhood of the need for belting ALL THE THINGS.

Sea Ermine

@Lily Rowan Maybe you are just trying on a size or two too small?
Don't worry though, I think it's pretty common for people to buy their skinny jeans in a too small size (assuming that they should be tight, or assuming that when they are too tight that it is the fault of the style and not that it's just the wrong size) and that's where the problem is. I carry most of my weight in my thighs and the rest in my butt and hips and the only pair of jeans in the world that fits me and also looks flattering is a pair of skinny jeans. I think it's because there is generally at least a little bit of stretch in the jeans (maybe do like 10% spandex but no more) and so it curves nicely over my lower body. But it doesn't look good if it's too tight so that's where playing around in sizes comes in.

Angelena@twitter

@FromTheFuture my skinny jeans are also a size ten! ok LW you NEED to wear skinny jeans. size ten is small!

NeverOddOrEven

@FromTheFuture
Right?! Fuck all this size-dependent BS. XOJane just ran a good piece from a woman who finally got a pixie cut after stylist after stylist basically said she was too fat for one.
But with jeans in particular, if you tell me I don't look good in/can't/shouldn't wear skinny jeans, then you're telling me I don't look good in/can't/shouldn't wear my legs. And, so, fuck you.

TheRisottoRacket

@FromTheFuture Came here to say the same thing. But I guess if you're uncomfortable, you gotta do you.

tiptoemammal

@BornSecular YES! Apparently I'm the only size 16 hairpinner? I usually love my curves (I have an amazing ass, y'all!), but trying on a pair of skinny jeans will destroy my confidence pretty much instantly. If they fit my ass, they are way to big in the waist. And no matter what size they are, they will squeeze my legs uncomfortably. Aren't skinny jeans basically just jeans that are REALLY TIGHT? Not comfy. But they've taken over the world so I can't buy pants anymore; it's been such a problem this year and now I just wear leggings or this one pair of stretchy bootcut jeans I found at Target. There was only the one pair, or I would have bought 10 billion.

tiptoemammal

@tiptoemammal And I tightroll my jeans and wear them under boots. Not getting why this is a problem, unless you have really tight boots? ARE THE BOOTS GETTING TIGHTER, TOO?!?! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

we all want to be big stars

@FromTheFuture Wait! Size 16 friend! I love Old Navy for ALL of the jeans, skinny included - I know this is a YMMV kind of thing, but they have lots of cuts of jean and they also have size 18 in-store (I'm just saying, sometimes one sizes up, based on my life, and it's nice to be able to) and I guess I'm just saying, I hope you find some pants!

And thanks, everyone, for the skinny jeans encouragement. :)

Lily Rowan

So I just tucked my tightest and thinnest jeans into my boots, and I think it's fine! So I can look like everyone else, even without the skinnies. Victory?

oboe-d-amore

I tried to post a response yesterday and accidentally posted in the wrong thread, yay!

I like Old Navy skinny jeans because the calves are less skinny than a lot of places. Like, they're definitely still skinny jeans, but almost more straight-leg? But in a good way. I have trouble often with thigh-waist-calf ratios (and actually think my calves are fairly slim regarding my proportions?), but theirs are great. NY&Co used to have THE BEST skinny jeans, but now the fabric is way too thin and waist is higher.

Emily Patterson@facebook

@FromTheFuture Me too! As I type this, I have my size 10 skinny jeans tucked into my black riding boots. I think the key is picking a dark color, pairing it with a colorful top and making sure the top falls at the right place. And, if you are pear-shaped like me, these fit great

MarianTheLibrarian

@Lily Rowan I was JUST explaining this whole thigh bulging over knee thing to a friend the other day! I wasn't talking about it in regards to skinny jeans, though. I hate the jeans w/boots over them look, personally.

Lily Rowan

@MarianTheLibrarian And you know, I realize objectively it's just a part of my body and it's fine, but it is the thing that I'm self-conscious about, so.

thebestjasmine

@Lily Rowan Oh man, agree. I don't physically understand how you get them on your body when you don't have skinny legs. But then, I would never leave the house in skintight pants, because I would look terrible, so I cannot wait for this skinny jean trend to be over so that it's easier to buy normal person pants.

siniichulok

@FromTheFuture I agree! I'm generally a size 12, and am pregnant, and have only skinny jeans now. I have never looked better in skinny jeans in my entire life. Maybe it helps to have more of an apple shape now than my previous extreme hourglass, but whatever works.

fondue with cheddar

Olfactory fatigue sucked when I worked at a shoe store. People would always come in and say, "It smells SO GOOD in here," because of all the leather. But I couldn't smell it. :(

yeah-elle

@fondue with cheddar Same thing working in an ice cream shop where everything's made in the back...the cones, the ice cream, the cookies and candies we sell. Grrr, I want to smell all that yummy stuff!

fondue with cheddar

@yeah-elle Actually, that's probably a good thing. If it smelled delicious all the time you would eat more!

I'm Right on Top of that, Rose

@fondue with cheddar I worked in a small-town bakery for two years. If it weren't for the olfactory fatigue I would have eaten everything that came out of the oven.

madge

@fondue with cheddar i have noticed this in some people's homes, too. i'm like really, do you not smell the cat pee in here? but they don't. lucky noses.

krisisisipoo

@fondue with cheddar
Ohh my god, I dated a guy in college who worked at an ice cream shop and every time he came home smelling of waffle-cone vanilla-y goodness it made me seriously swoon.

fondue with cheddar

@madge Sort of lucky...I mean, if your house stinks it's really in your best interest to know about it.

@krisisisipoo Wow, yum.

I dated a guy who worked at a seafood restaurant and it was not so pleasant.

redheadedtwit

@fondue with cheddar Worked in a chocolate shop, same thing. Also- quit smoking a month ago today and BOY can I smell if people smoke now. GROSS.

fondue with cheddar

@redheadedtwit And yet I work in a print/copy shop and I can still smell the washup chemicals, toner, and carbonless paper just fine. :(

regina dentata

@madge I had a roommate once who had a terrible cat. I loved the roommate but he rarely cleaned the cat box. I would come home on a hot day and get hit in the face. Shockingly, he never seemed to smell it. I would have to threaten him to clean it. He didn't want to spend more on litter. Ugh. Honestly I don't think I'll ever live with a cat again. Smell-PTSD.

regina dentata

@regina dentata I mean... hit in the face with the smell. The roommate did not hit me in the face. Nor did the cat. It was like a solid cat-urine-wave.

fondue with cheddar

@regina dentata I knew what you meant. ;)

I have cats, but I know the smell. I always smell it when the box needs to be cleaned, and when it's strong it still hits me in the face.

I'm really glad you didn't get hit in the face with an actual wave of cat urine.

Pygmalion

@I'm Right on Top of that, Rose
I worked in a bakery a few summers ago. When I'd open in the early morning and put out the croissants and breakfast pastries fresh out of the oven it was what heaven would smell like. But I only worked a few days a week, so the olfactory fatique wasn't as much of a thing. I think I gained like 10 pounds that summer.

@fondue with cheddar The smell of leather is one of my favorite smells. I have a purse that after months has retained its new leather smell somehow, magic I guess. I lurv it.

HitchedUpKids

@All Okay, now I'm terrified that I actually smell really bad and everyone is just too nice to say something because I smoke a lot. Like, a lot a lot, and my old college roommate said our room smelled really bad and I couldn't smell it and neither could my best friend but he smokes an insane amount too and now I'm kind of freaking out. :(

fondue with cheddar

@HitchedUpKids If you have a trusted nonsmoker friend you could always ask them.

Canal

@HitchedUpKids I'm so sorry to tell you this, but I promise you, you stink and people make gagging faces behind your back as soon as you pass. Sorry. It's true. You're friends won't tell you, but you do. Even if you keep the window open, wash your hands and chew gum, you still stank. But it's totally within your power to change this, and in a few weeks you'll have enough $ to dry clean everything, hire a thorough cleaning service for your apartment, and buy yourself some seriously fancy perfume. See posts about the Easy Way to Quit book by Allen Carr below. Stinky. (said with love)

redheadedtwit

@Canal There are a million books on the "easy" way to quit. And a million products you can buy. There is no easy way to quit, and telling someone they stink or making them feel guilty about smoking is not helping them. Even if you say it with "love." When that happened to me it brought down my self esteem and made my social anxiety even worse. You know what I used to cope with those? Smoking. I was finally able to quit when I was with friends and a S.O. that never commented on any cig smell or gagged when I walked by, but loved me unconditionally. That is what gave me the confidence to believe that I could, and can, quit.

Also- I think a lot of fancy perfumes stink, and people BATHE in them. Am I allowed to tell them that they stink?

Reginal T. Squirge

Sometimes perfume just gets stale, too, right?

Megasus

@Reginal T. Squirge yeah, if the perfume has yellowed, it's gone bad. So LW1, if your perfume is yellow, that's why it smells gross and you should chuck it.

martinipie

@Megano! Wait, what? Tons of perfume comes already yellowish or brown--generally classic "old lady" stuff but definitely yellow. Only recently has the perfume trend been for clear or (urgh) pink juice.

Megasus

@martinipie This is what I have been told by people at a French perfume factory. If it's yellowed it means it's gotten too hot or was exposed to the sun too long, and the scent totally changes. I don't think I've ever bought any that hasn't been clear.

Pygmalion

@Megano! I didn't know about the sun thing so I kept my really nice perfumes in the windowsill and now they all smell like pure alcohol / chemicals. Such a bummer.

harebell

@Megano!
Perfume discolors with age, yes. But not every perfume is initially clear. They can be in a range of yellow/straw, depending on the ingredients (and obviously, can be exciting colors if the manufacturers use dye -- like this really terrible Lady Gaga "Fame" perfume sample that I just got, which is black until it evaporates on your skin -- and you walk around smelling like a powdered super-sweet apricot, gah!).

Megasus

@harebell They had to invent a way of making it black without wrecking the scent though.

explanation points

@Megano! Hi! I'm lw#1, and the perfume was originally pink, I think, but is now clearish. It was pink when I got it, smells fine when I smoke, but when I'm not smoking, it smells like ass. SIIIIIGH. It was originally given to me less than a year ago (last Giftmas) so ... idk. I'm just frustrated.

melis

Oh my God, please bring your stale cigarette smoke around me. I'm serious. It smells amazing and I want to smellll youuuu.

Reginal T. Squirge

Strangest thing you've ever said.

melis

@Reginal T. Squirge I used to smoke, if that helps. Sometimes I'll wander through a cloud of someone else's secondhand and it's just like a little gift from the universe.

Ellie

@melis I love the smell of smoke. I always have, even when I was a little kid, before I ever smoked. Don't get me wrong, there are some people who do smell disgusting (usually people who smoke in their car, house, everywhere, a pack of day for years, and especially if it's some weird brand), but your average young-person smoker, mmmm.

Reginal T. Squirge

I used to clean hotel rooms and... the smell of our motel's two smoking rooms just turned me off of that whole thing forever. Not to mention the smell of those rooms the morning after someone had stayed (and smoked) in them.

polka dots vs stripes

@melis My FAVORITE smell in the world is stale cigs and gasoline, mixed. My uncle used to sneak his smoking in his garage, which held his tractor-style lawnmover, so I have happy memories associated with that smell. It wasn't until college when I social smoked a bit that I realized what that scent was.

So yep, all you smokers, come hang out with me (after you're done with the actual smoking - I just like the staleness.)

aphrabean

@melis Oh yes, I know that second hand smoke allure. I know it so well.

fabel

@melis Yess, I'm clearly not the only one. I've always loved the smell of cigarette smoke. I have such positive associations with it.

Hellcat

@melis So many former smokers I know are the same way! My friend's mom actually wants me to smoke inside her house even though she'd recently quit after a lifetime of smoking.

Hellcat

@polka dots vs stripes Saltwater air and boat gas for me. It's what my Jersey Shore grandma's garage smells like (though I assume so do most people's garages on her street)--or at least it always has; not sure now since the hurricane.

faustbanana

@melis can I come too?

Ellie

Also, I've met a couple guys who offered up that though they don't smoke they like the taste of kissing someone who has just smoked a cigarette, though I find this hugely suspect for obvious reasons. I obviously like it too, though, so benefit of the doubt?

PistolPackinMama

@melis I only like that smell if it is outside and also raining. I chalk it up to living in Glasgow, with its no smoking indoors laws but raining always all the time weather. That and the smell of breweries. *sigh*

Stefanie J@twitter

Eyeliner questioner: I just found out the best eyeliner look for every day and I'm OBSESSED with it: line the inner rims of your UPPER lash line. It sounds totally undetectable but it adds amazing depth and ~prettiness~ to your eyes. TRUST MEEEEEE

note: this works best on people who aren't used to wearing a lot of makeup on an everyday basis and who always rub off their eyeliner during the day if it's all liquid and winged out (me)

aphrabean

@Stefanie J@twitter How do you do the inner rims! I always flinch and get eyeliner in my eye because I'm twitchy and is there a trick to it? Or do you have to just be less weird about things near your eyeballs.

wallsdonotfall

@aphrabean I use dark brown eyeshadow on a thin, flat eyeliner brush from Bobbi Brown. It's not that bad if you've ever worn contacts--I just pull my eyelid up a little and pat, pat, pat it onto the tiny bit of skin there.

KeLynn

@aphrabean Do you pull on your eyelid to lift the rims off your actual eyeball? Helps with the flinching because you're not touching your actual eyeball.

Megoon

@Stefanie J@twitter I do that too - so easy yet so effective.

christonacracker

@Stefanie J@twitter everytime I do that it just rubs off all over my lower lash line though. What are you using?

aphrabean

@wallsdonotfall Whaaaaaat. I feel dumb for not thinking of that before. This is going to change everything.

Canal

@aphrabean i think trish mcevoy is responsible for introducing this to the masses. their eyeliner brush (#11?) is made for this (i do it with dark brown eyeshadow). i'm sure they or youtube has tutorials. You lift up your lid a bit, look up, and place the brush on your water line then sort of rub it into your lash roots. Sorry, does that make sense? I just had a glass of wine and my dog is barking at the wall.

FulanaDeTallcan

@aphrabean I just learned the name for this: "Tightlining." http://www.temptalia.com/tightlining-why-its-life-changing There's mad youtube tutorials and people have different preferences between cake/gel (potted) eyeliners with a brush or pencils (obvs not liquid unless you hate all that dang seeing and reading your eyeballs do.) Right now I'm into Makeup Forever's Aqua Eyes liners cuz the waterproofness means that it sticks to the inner rim for longer. Also, no liner brushes (like the ones necessary for potted eyeliners) means less chance of the brush shedding a hair in my eye.

Pygmalion

@KeLynn I try not to do that because wrinkles. Is 21 too young to start thinking about that stuff?

Canal

@Pygmalion it's never too young to start worrying about aging! (Kidding!) (No I'm not). But what does the eyeliner have to do with wrinkles? Pulling at your eyelid? There's lots of ways to pull without stretching your skin. I think you may be doing it wrong.

KeLynn

@Pygmalion @Canal - ha, I definitely don't think 21 is too young to worry about wrinkles (hell I was 21 when I started using anti-aging crap), and I guess I could see how pulling on your skin would exacerbate that but...I guess I see that as just part of "using my face" or "putting makeup on." Clearly if you're going to stress out about it though, it might not be worth it to you. And in 40 years your eyelids will still look like they are 21 and mine will look like they are 98 because I pulled on them all the time.

yeah-elle

LW5: Also, sometimes taking trial-and-error photos of yourself helps. In addition to looking at photos of eye makeup you admire, I mean. Sometimes I feel like my mirror (or, you know, my eyeballs) doesn't work, and it helps to take a few photobooth photos to see what you've put on actually looks like.

NiceDress

@yeah-elle This comment made me remember how in the movie Clueless how Cher takes Polaroids of her outfits because she thinks mirrors are unreliable.

Before I became ancient and washed up (I'm currently 27), I dabbled in modeling, and an agent advised me to always have someone else choose my best pictures instead of choosing my own; his reasoning was that people are actually horrible judges of photos of themselves. Which seems true sometimes but I dunno? Maybe ask a friend about your make-up photos? Being a girl is so complicated! Maybe that's why I'm lazy about wearing make-up... so many questions.

yeah-elle

@yeah-elle Oh, that's definitely true sometimes. I know it's true for myself because sometimes I look back at photos of myself that I thought were good, and yikes.

But mostly I didn't mean photos like, glamour shots of looking beautiful, but more for seeing what your eyeliner looks like from the side? Maybe people have fancy mirrors that can tell them that, haha.

Where Pies Go When They Die

Aaaahhh, the eyeliner thing! I've recently sort of mastered the big huge dramatic cat eye but I can't for the life of me manage the cute little flick Angelina's got going on in that picture. The left flick is always fine, and then the right is always stupidly chunky and pointing at some crazy angle and just doing its own damn thing. How do I fix this?!

madge

@Where Pies Go When They Die go watch some lisa eldridge videos on youtube. it's mostly about keeping your eyes open when applying eyeliner, and going slow. sketch in the wing on your right eye while glancing back over at your left eye. use tiny strokes, and build it up to where you want it to be.

Megoon

@madge Ha I was about to suggest the same thing! This video really helped me: http://lisaeldridge.com/video/1744/signature-kitten-flick-eyeliner/

celeec4@twitter

@Where Pies Go When They Die Maybe try using a brush? I was entirely unable to do the little flick up at the end on eyeliner with pencils. But with a brush it comes so very naturally.

catsoncatsoncats

@Where Pies Go When They Die I found that there is a big difference depending on what kind of eyeliner you use. Physician's Formula makes a big fat liquid eyeliner with a pointy felt tip. I find it to be just the thing for the corner flick. Some people have an easier time with those little eyeliner brushes...so what I'm saying is try some different products maybe?

255
255

@Where Pies Go When They Die Yea, I am suspecting that is gel eyeliner and an angled brush used in that picture. And that's no flick, that's a delicately and seriously constructed wing.

charlottecat

So I didn't ask the question, but what if you look just fine in skinny jeans but find them uncomfortable? Are there alternative types of jeans that will fit/stay inside boots without being so uncomfortable? Am I wearing the wrong skinny jeans? Or should I just deal with it?

Summer Somewhere

@charlottecat What do you find uncomfortable about them?

Beatrix Kiddo

@charlottecat Are you getting the stretchy kind? The spandex/lycra is what makes them comfortable. If you still don't like the stretchy kind, don't just deal with it! Find a style you actually feel comfortable in!

charlottecat

@Beatrix Kiddo I knew there had to be a solution! Thanks for the tip.

I'm Right on Top of that, Rose

@charlottecat I found that if I shopped for grown-up skinny jeans (not the kind you find anywhere that caters to teenagers), they are more comfortable. I wear Levi's skinny jeans and love them, because they are pretty stretchy and actually pretty durable.

mbmargarita

@charlottecat Embrace the jegging.

charlottecat

@I'm Right on Top of that, Rose That's helpful, too. Thanks!

zavrrr

@Beatrix Kiddo i don't know why, but stretchy jeans just do NOT work for me. skinny or otherwise. i find them incredibly uncomfortable and they are super unflattering for me. but nowadays it is practically impossible to find non-stretch jeans....i went to a fucking levi's store and they didn't have any women's jeans without spandex in them. sigh.

kellyography

@zavrrr I'm the same. If there's more than 1% spandex/stretch in the jeans, they make my crotch look like it has whiskers, and generally loosen up so much after a few wears that they fall off my flat ass.

Megasus

@charlottecat stretch + don't be afraid to go a size up

yeah-elle

@kellyography @zavrrr Personally, I will have my stretch jeans ripped from my cold dead denimclad legs...but I have a friend who has often lamented her search for the nonstretch jean. But she's found some!

They tend to be more expensive, but look for raw denim jeans. The upside of jeans without spandex is that even if you spend more money on them, they tend to last waaaaay longer than stretch jeans.

Pygmalion

@charlottecat I generally opt for slim cut or straight over super skinny. AG has a line of pants specifically sold at Anthropologie which are AWESOME! Great jeans and other non-denim too. I've never found pants that fit so well while being so comfortable. They're expensive, so just wait for a sale and buy 'em all up. These are my faves: http://www.anthropologie.com/anthro/product/22957195.jsp

NiceDress

@charlottecat I feel the same way. I guess skinny jeans look okay on me (I generally feel that most people look fine in them with boots and proper rest of outfit, while they are unflattering on most people in the absence of boots or the right kind of high heels, unless one is very tall and thin), but I just don't like stuff that clings to me. Tights, even leggings, etc. Anything that clings around my stomach or legs or butt makes me want to constantly pick at it and pull it away from my body.

My favorite jeans are straight leg with a barely noticeable bit of spandex (I think like 1-2%), but they also do the knee-bunching thing with boots. I found a pair of skinny leg cords from Target that I like because they are soft and not too tight that work splendidly. Yet to find good jeans.
@Pygmailion I will check out the Anthropologie ones you mentioned, as those look like a workable possibility. Thanks!

parallel-lines

#1, perfume isn't forever. It can turn, maybe it's that and not your cigarettes? http://inside.theperfumeshoppe.com/2011/09/12/can-perfume-go-bad/

explanation points

@parallel-lines Hi! I'm lw#1, and the perfume was originally pink, I think, but is now clearish. It was pink when I got it, smells fine when I smoke, but when I'm not smoking, it smells like ass. SIIIIIGH. It was originally given to me less than a year ago (last Giftmas) so ... idk. I'm just frustrated.

(this is copied from a post above, but had details I thought might help)

I think I'm just going to throw out the damn perfume, I've probably spent more time angsting about it than I have wearing it this last year.

SarahP

Hair color girl: if you are okay sacrificing your pride, a lot of really fancy, larger hair salons do training courses where they have younger associates (supervised by the people who are already pros! So no danger of a bad cut!) learning how to do styles. They give heavily discounted rates. The trick is that not many of them list it on their websites, so you may have to call and ask (hence sacrificing pride). When I was a grad student, I used to get amazing haircuts from a swank salon in Boston for $10 (just a cut--coloring costs like $60? $80?).

Eye-makeup lady, I have big eyes, but if I put any eyeliner/shadow below my lower eyelid, no matter what the style/color, it somehow makes my eye look half as small. Some of us were just not meant to put anything down there! So if you have eyes like me, just stick to your upper lid.

JanetSnakehole

@SarahP As a graduate student in Boston I have to ask - would you mind sharing the name of the salon here where you pulled this off?

MissMushkila

@SarahP This is what I thought of for that question too! I go to the Aveda Institute in Minneapolis, because I am a teacher with light brown hair who feels like a blond. I have very long hair. I would be so poor if I went anywhere else.

Lily Rowan

@JanetSnakehole There are often ads for hair models on craigslist. Like so: http://boston.craigslist.org/search/bts?query=highlights&srchType=A

AnalogMetronome

@SarahP Seconding @JanetSnakehole! I have a pixie which is quickly becoming integral to my sense of self and I am afraid I won't be able to maintain it at the prices I am paying now. :(

snowmentality

@MissMushkila YES. If there is an Aveda Institute in your city, go there.

(You may have to google a bit to find it -- when I just google "Aveda Institute," I get a website with a list of 11 locations, but I know for a fact there are more locations than that. The location I've been to isn't on there, for example.)

MissMushkila

@SarahP More clarification -
Cost to get my hair highlighted at a salon: at least $200 + tip
Cost to get my hair done at Aveda (FULL FOIL): $34 (I give a 15 dollar tip or so because: students)

SarahP

@JanetSnakehole and MademoiselleML I had mine done at James Joseph Salon, but off the top of my head I know that Mario Russo, Vidal Sassoon, and Aveda also do this!

JanetSnakehole

Thanks for the information, everybody!

rai
rai

@SarahP SalonApprentice.com, too! Lots of apprentices/trainees post what they need from week to week. The catch is that you have to be available when they have their training days. But I've had great experiences with trainees at a couple different Chicago salons.

mlle.gateau

@SarahP THIS is what I came down here to say! Full disclosure: I do not dye my hair, but I am considering it. And if I were to dye it, I would probably have to go to like the Paul Mitchell School or whatever. The drawback here is that having someone who is not very experience do anything to your hair can take FOREVER. I once had a trainee cut my (shoulder length at the time) hair, and I swear I was in there for two hours and wanted to cut my head off and leave because I couldn't handle it. This was partly because I was not expecting a trainee, so be prepared! Bring things to read! But, you can save loads of money this way. So.

mbmargarita

Hair color girl: I was in the exact same boat a few years ago. And my solution was actually to dye my hair RED and do it myself. I use Redken Shades EQ in Cayenne (Ricky's stopped carrying it but you can find it on Amazon) and every 2 months or so I just goop it all in my hair (with a developer) and it only costs me about $8 a pop. I know it's not exactly the solution you're looking for-- but it is SO much more low-maintenance than my highlights were, and it's so much more fun than my "dark blonde/light brown" natural color. At least, last I checked... haven't seen my natural color in a long time.

meetapossum

@mbmargarita Hello, fellow former blonde, present redhead! I second this advice. Red is great and much easier to maintain.

par_parenthese

@mbmargarita What developer do you use? I'm a former blonde, current redhead who dyes at home and I would love to switch to the pro products but don't know where to start. HALP?

killer_queen

@mbmargarita Yes! Another formerly blonde-highlighted, present redhead (Feria Brilliant Bordeaux 4EVA). Not only is it waaaay cheaper, it's the only shade on which I've gotten compliments from strangers. For less than $20 every couple months, I'd say it's the way to go.

(Caveat: red fades like a MFer, which is a bummer. Just use some of that money you're saving to buy some fancy shampoo, though!)

A Dolly

@mbmargarita This is inspiring! But am I too much of a wimp to actually do it?

fondue with cheddar

I had no idea dark roots were a Thing. I just thought it was from spending time in the sun. When my hair was long it always looked like that and I hated it, especially in updos because the contrast was so dramatic.

Ellie

Eyeliner: Don't ever outline your entire eye with eyeliner. ONLY outline the outer halves. I don't get why anyone, ever, wants to outline the entire eye. That's what makes your eyes look small. (I actually stopped doing eyeliner totally about a year ago, now I just do mascara. It's the best way to get away with seeming like you're not wearing makeup.)

wallsdonotfall

@Ellie I love the way eyeliner looks on other people but if I do anything more than put a tiiiiiny bit on my upper waterline, suddenly I've aged a decade and look like I'm wearing two pounds of makeup even if I'm otherwise barefaced. Is there any cure?

KeLynn

@Ellie - Only outline the outer halves? This sounds so strange to me.

MoxyCrimeFighter

@Ellie I've recently realized that my eyes are deep-set but only on top - which makes it sound like my eyes are tilted, which they aren't, it's just that the top lid is deep underneath my brow bone, while my lower lid is like flush with my cheek. Anyway, unless I'm deliberately going raccoony, I only line my upper lid, from inner to outer corner, but very very thin until I get to the middle then super-thick winged and triangle-shadowed at the outer corner. I'll put a thick coat of mascara on top, and then very gently define the outer corners on the bottom. I think it works pretty well!

martinipie

@wallsdonotfall I think a lot of this feeling is, like many beauty-related things, all in your head--to others it will look like nice eyeliner! Also the "otherwise barefaced" might be a problem too--plain eyeliner can be a little harsh, but add some gentle blush, mascara, and a slick of tinted lip balm and it's great. I love eyeliner, let me proselytize!

wallsdonotfall

@martinipie That's a good point. I think part of it is that I have very dark undereye circles, and so eyeliner can make it look like my eyesockets have just caved in. (They're genetic, and the skin there is very delicate and thin.) Going too strong on concealer to compensate just creates texture issues. Advice in that case?

martinipie

@wallsdonotfall Hmmm, have you tried products like Benefit's EyeBright or YSL's Touche Eclat/its many dupes? Those are the best for brightening everything up without the exact texture of concealer. I understand those issues though! god I love makeup...

@KeLynn I do this. Eye makeup can be sort of weird for me. Something about the way my eyes sort of sit in my face (high cheekbones!) and the way they're shaped (almond, heavy lids, when I open my eyes all the way you can only see a small bit of the lid, and the crease is totally hidden) makes eye makeup a pain. My eyes are also a bit small.

I tend to do eyeliner on the outer-halves of my eyes and then smudge it into the lashline so there's no immediate start-point. It kind of opens them up. If I put liner all the way across the top, it tends to look really heavy. If you look at the Angeline Jolie picture in the post, you notice that there's no eyeliner close to her nose, it's only on the outside edges.

Ophelia

@wallsdonotfall This is me, exactly. Have you tried using brown eyeliner instead of black? I find that it gives my eye a bit more definition, but doesn't draw attention to my dark circles, because it's a different tone (whereas the black can read bluish against my skin, and exacerbate the circles, the brown just blends with my skin tone).

AniaGosia

@Ellie Yes! It looks so much better to only line the outer half. Check out that pic of Angelina - that's how hers is done. I think the key is to taper the line so that it doesn't just stop abruptly in the middle of your eye. It helps to do this with an eyeliner brush. I think I do about 2/3 of my eye and I love the way that it looks - I used to always stress about my eyes looking too small like the LW too.

itiresias

@wallsdonotfall I have this ordeal as well. I definitely see eye makeup from a "painting' perspective too - it's different for everyone. My eyes are slightly large/buggy in general and sheer amount of skin on the lids plus the dark circles can just make me look like a cracked out grandma. I use tinted moisturizer - sometimes concealer underneath it - so that I can blend the color/texture into the rest of my face, otherwise it just looks like Makeup and in pictures the area under my eyes looks more yellow/white than skin colored. For eyeliner, I mostly just wear it on my top lid, starting with a thin line around where my pupil starts, growing to a thick line for the rest of the iris, and shrinking down again in the corner of my eye. I also like to use an angled brush and black eye shadow instead of a pencil liner, because I find it gives me more control. And then on the bottom lids, if I even wear it, I just kind of dust the brush along my lash line, which makes them seem thicker - if there's a harsh line, it looks terrible. Hope this could maybe help.

NiceDress

@wallsdonotfall I have a similar issue, and something I learned to brighten the hollow dark circle thing that can happen is to dab a touch of shimmery white eye shadow or highlighter on the inner corners of your eyes and the sides of the bridge of your nose. I sweep it up on the inner part of my brow bones too. Basically it just offsets the natural shadows that make the area under your eyes look darker. I find it makes a subtle but noticeable difference.

I agree with Ophelia about brown eyeliner being more flattering as well, especially if you have blue eyes and/or light skin.

KeLynn

@S. Elizabeth - ah! I think I get it. I guess I was imagining a harsh line more than smudging etc.

@wallsdonotfall - Have you tried Maybelline Age Rewind brightener? (it's in the same package as the concealer but it's not the same thing. It's maroonish with a fuzzy ball applicator). Best thing I've ever found for dark circles. Sometimes I layer it with a Neutrogena illuminator (I don't even know what it's called beyond that - it's in a blue lipstick-type case and it was super cheap, because I bought it on my way to an event when I looked in my rear-view and realized I looked like crap. This is also very very easy to confuse with the regular concealer - same packaging and everything.) I think using regular skin-colored concealer is a mistake - you need a different one for your dark circles than you need for, say, a pimple. Took me about 24 years to realize that.

It's very easy to get too heavy-handed with the Maybelline though - less is more!

sam.i.am

The jeans-in-boots thing is like just about everything else. Sometimes it looks good on you and sometimes it doesn't, regardless of size, although I think this look looks good on most people. But here's my professional (yes, professional) advice:

You must get skinny jeans. The skinnier the better. The bunchy pants thing is actually what makes the look unflattering. Get jeans with stretch in them so that the knees don't bag out too much. It can also help to line dry your jeans because the heat from your dryer can ruin the elastic, making them permanently baggy.

Get nice boots. This look has been ruined by too many shitty boots.

Also, get over the "I'm not skinny, so I can't wear skinny jeans" thing. It's BS. I think it's especially flattering for those of us who carry more weight in our hips/thighs/butt because it skims over everything and doesn't add any extra volume, which I think can happen in bootcut jeans and almost always happens in a straight leg. Denim also tends to hold things in place more than other fabrics, which is awesome. Also, if you're doing the jeans-in-boots thing, it helps balance out the proportion in a way similar to a bootcut jean, but can be more streamlined.

And if you're willing to invest some money in this look, find a straight-talking salesgirl in your favorite store and tell her what you're trying to do. She's going to work hard to make sure you feel as good as you're going to look.

par_parenthese

@sam.i.am I think it's especially flattering for those of us who carry more weight in our hips/thighs/butt because it skims over everything and doesn't add any extra volume, which I think can happen in bootcut jeans and almost always happens in a straight leg.

THIIIIIIIIIIIS

Shayna

@par_parenthese Hell yes. And if it's darker skinny jeans, they smooth things over quite a bit.

Oh, squiggles

Buff that eyeliner out to your elbow, trust me you will look fab.

Ok, maybe not. But do try to experiment with eyeliner placement. My eyes can look a little close together, so I use lighter colors on the inner eye (or nothing at all) and darker colors on the outer corner. Or I just line the upper lid, with a wider line on the outer corners. Play around with different colors, line thickness, and line placement, to see what works best. Just avoid raccoon eyes (thick black eyeliner all the way around)...it's not a good look.

A. Louise

@Absurd Bird agreed. It's amazing how much further out you can take it and not look like Cleopatra - the trick is to keep it angled and come to a point and even fill in a touch. And then pop some fake eyelashes on slightly outside your normal eyelid too and POW. Instant awesome.

Hellcat

Ugh, I wish smoking would ruin my sense of smell. I am like a damn bloodhound and it's annoying as hell.

On a positive note, someone once hugged me and said I was the best-smelling smoker in the world; I thank Bobbi Brown's Beach for that though.

explanation points

@Hellcat I'm LW1, and TRUST, I feel you. One of the worst reasons to go back to smoking: I'M TIRED OF SMELLING EVERYBODY'S EVERYTHING ALL THE GODDAMN TIME. I do not need to know when people are getting sick or when the milk is almost bad (but not quite) or when you've gotten laid recently or that someone vomitted near you at the last party you wore that shirt to. JUST STOPPPPPP, NOSE, TMI.

Briony Fields

Man, perfume is one of my pet peeves. I suppose there must be plenty of nice, reasonably spritzed people walking around who I don't smell, but it drives me nuts when I get on the train or go to a meeting and somebody has clearly dumped out their perfume bottle and rolled around in it. This happens so often, I don't understand it! It just strikes me as so damn rude to spray a whole bunch of stuff on yourself when you know you're going to be in close quarters with other people. I'm extra grumpy about it because I'm sensitive to perfumes and heavily scented products and get headaches, but I'd feel like a jerk telling someone how bad their gross perfume makes me feel, especially if it's someone I'm only going to meet once or twice (at aforementioned meetings). I get so annoyed having to just deal with it and feel awful, though. There is no win.

celeec4@twitter

@Briony Fields I get so paranoid about being That Smelly Lady. Sooo paranoid, because its so easy to become accustomed to your own perfumes. :\ ...but I lurves my perfumes.

Beatrix Kiddo

@Briony Fields There really isn't. The woman who sits next to me (in an open office) puts on HUGE amounts of perfume and it makes me sneeze uncontrollably, but she's so nice I never know if I should say something.

celeec4@twitter

@Beatrix Kiddo See? That. I'm paranoid, about being that person. *hangs head*

I reassure myself that at least I'm not the lady on campus whom I can track through hallways via the throw from the entire bottle Chanel no. 5 she must pour over her head each day.

explanation points

@Briony Fields I'm LW1, and ironically, both my mother and I are sensitive to perfumes, which is why I loved this one as it was not SUPER EXPENSIVE but yet didn't trigger allergies.

However, considering it smells like smoke tinged bordello now, I'm throwing it out.

churlishgreen

LW2: This probably won't help you for now, but I am also naturally dark blonde/light brown and the best thing that ever happened to my hair was starting to go grey (happens very early in my family). I still get highlights, but only a few times a year, and my hair just looks a slightly different shade of blonde than it used to.

wearitcounts

@churlishgreen argh i am so jealous of you! i am 28 and going gray (runs in my family too) but my hair is dark brown so it's all very womp WOMP.

Vesna@twitter

Hair and higlights: Training salon training salon training salon. Especially in a major city, there's going to be a few. Aveda, Denato? I got highlights and a cut (with tax and tip) for under $100. Yes, it took all afternoon, but the instructors were all over the place checking up and making sure everything was hunky-dory.

I'm not paying full price ever again. Until I win the lottery. Then I will pay a hair stylist to just follow me around all day doing touchups.

thenotestaken

@Vesna@twitter Ha, just echoed this right below you!

NeverOddOrEven

@thenotestaken I've been to a few beauty schools in the past, including the Aveda Institute in Minneapolis and results have been.....mixed.
Never wonderful, sometimes terrible.

thenotestaken

I fully admit YMMV with this, but I've gotten my color done at beauty schools before and it's turned out great. I know the students aren't as experienced as a regular stylist would be, but part of that is while they're doing anything they have to CONSTANTLY be consulting with their seen-everything teachers. And the prices are incredible! Something to think about, anyway.

Midie

LW1 - I'm on your page with the sortof/kindof quitting smoking...in fact I was just thinking of going out to buy a pack when I happened upon this Q&A. But reading your letter made me not do it, so Thank You!

explanation points

@Midie I'm LW1 and I'm glad to hear it! I personally have smoked less than 10 cigarettes in the last 4 days! YAY US!

Killerpants

Sadly, no amount hair deodorizer or dry shampoo or clothes deodorizer or perfume will cover up the smell of ciggie smoke. You will just smell like whatever chemically perfumes (or essential oils, if you're making you're own) they put in them...and cig smoke. Take it from those of us with sensitive noses! The only way to not smell is to not smoke. I mean, the smell even comes out of your lungs. I've had friends who smoke who will smoke, brush their teeth immediately, and then breathe near me and their breath still smells a little stale smokey (plus toothpasty) because lingering smokiness is in their lungs. Which, you know, makes sense.

KeLynn

@Killerpants I don't even have a sensitive nose (to the point where if people say "do you smell that?" I default to "no, my nose is stuffy though" even when it's not, because that's how un-sensitive I am to smells) and I second this wholeheartedly. It is worse to smell like smoke plus perfume than it is to smell just like smoke. Other scents mingle with your smokey smell but they do not replace it.

par_parenthese

@KeLynn For real. I work with a lady who takes three or four smoke breaks a day, and then douses herself in Bath and Body Works body spray which REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEKS. So much worse than just the plain smoke.

explanation points

@Killerpants Hey, LW1 here. I have no problem with smelling a bit of smoke (or rather I do, which is why I'm trying to quit), I'd also just like to smell like a bit of vanilla or freesia or something happy and light and sexy.

I've recently started dating a guy who's a non-smoker-- my prep for spending the weekend at his place meant: I freshly laundered all my clothes, showered, brushed teeth, mouthwash, etc etc, got all dolled up in my freshly washed duds, spritzed on perfume and didn't smoke for the rest of the time I spent at his place... and two days later as I'm leaving, I think about spritzing a tiny bit to cheer me up as I drive home, and the perfume smells like ASS. That's why I wrote this desperate plea for help-- I went to all that effort to smell good and non-gross and MY PERFUME THWARTED ME.

smidge

Hairpin inside my brain! I'm going to attempt that ponytail tomorrow, despite the fact that teasing my hair makes me twitchy.

polka dots vs stripes

@smidge I'm afraid to tease my hair because I'm afraid I will tease it into a knot and it will never ever come out and I will have rats nest hair for the rest of my life.

KeLynn

@polka dots vs stripes I'm afraid to tease my hair because I'm afraid I will tease it and then whatever smooth hair is covering up that mess will somehow move and reveal the teasing and I will just look like I haven't brushed my hair in weeks.

aphrabean

@smidge So this is my advice: when trying to get the teased rats-nest out, do an apple-cider vinegar rinse first - this will shrink the cuticle and make your hair all slippery and easy to de-tangle. 1 tbsp of ACV to 1 cup of warm water. Dump it on your head. I'm a hippie who loves big hair, what can I say.

smidge

@KeLynn and it will slowly deflate like a flan in a cupboard.

lauren.elizabeth

LW2: My hair is pretty light to begin with, but not shiny blonde, if that makes sense? And I use John Frieda Go Lightening spray every once and a while to lighten my roots. You spray it on wet hair -- only the places you want to get lighter! -- and then blow dry / style like usual. I recently changed hair salons and my new stylist thought my hair just naturally looked like this (best compliment ever?). It's super easy and doesn't make a huge difference at first -- perfect if you don't want to make a mistake!

mittens blum

LW3, have you tried wrapping the ankles of your jeans to make fake-skinny jeans?

This doesn't work as well as just buying skinny jeans, which I also hate and only wear in the winter when I have boots to cover them. I suspect the whole reason skinny jeans make my hips look like the rings of Saturn is that they make your ankle proportions look weird. So if the weird ankle bit is hidden, there is less of a difference between them and other jeans!

However. If you refuse to buy them for only 4 months of the year or cannot sacrifice the way you look in your bootcuts, sometimes it helps to sort of pull all the fabric at the ankle out to one side and then wrap it around. This works better if you keep your leg straight (or are standing, if you're really flexible) and the fabric pulled down to minimize any bunching from sitting. Hold the wrapped fabric as tightly as possible, shove in boot. This also works better if your boot shaft is tighter because the fabric won't be able to wiggle its way out of the wrap. Unfortunately it doesn't get rid of the knee bunchiness completely, but it does help.

par_parenthese

@mittens blum I wrap the jeans, then put socks over them, THEN put the boots on.

Ophelia

@par_parenthese Me too. And if the boots have roomy ankles, I just peg 'em like it's 1988.

Puppy in a cup

@mittens blum Has anyone ever tried these "Boot Straps", which are specifically meant to reduce bunching around the knee? http://hollywoodfashionsecrets.com/shop/boot-straps/

I do have one pair of pants that bunch like crazy, so I roll up the bottoms and tuck them into tight, tall socks. The elastic from the sock holds the pant roll in place. Just don't let anyone catch you taking off your boots...

bessmarvin

OK, this is my secret shame, and this may or may not be good advice for you, blonde/light brown hair girl! But I have always been a blonde and lately my hair has been getting darker. It's been screwing with my identity, so I decided I have to do something about it. Sun-in. For real. I know, you have probably heard people say that that stuff is no good and turns your hair orange or whatever, but I think that is just if brunettes try to use it. If you have dark blonde hair, it really will just make your hair lighter in a subtle way. I've never had my hair professionally done or anything. I just sometimes spritz on a bit when I'm straightening my hair (because it's heat-activated) and I think the effect is really nice and subtle. I don't think anyone can tell I am doing anything, but I am unambiguously blonde again and I love it!

@bessmarvin http://thehairpin.com/2011/06/beauty-qa-plane-face-glasses-and-the-home-pedicure It's discussed here...

Scandyhoovian

@bessmarvin Hi, I am in the same "my hair is getting darker and it's messing with my brain" place you are in. I've been a darkish blonde all my life (but still solidly BLONDE) and suddenly in the last 2-3-4 years (can't quite tell when it started, as I was dyeing it all manner of weird colors at the time) it darkened into "light brown" territory and now is edging in on straight-up chocolate colored. I'm enjoying it now that it's getting to a legit, squarely-in-the-brown place, but for a while it was that middling blondey-browney color and I just highlighted it myself with one of those home kits you can find in Target with all the Feria and L'Oreal hair dyes.

Nancy Sin

LW5: My favorite thing to do to make my eyes look bigger/stand out is to do a little line right under where the iris is. Like the opposite of cat eye, but you have to do it very subtle to not look like a crazy person. I saw my beautiful ice blue-eyed grandma wearing it that way, and I don't know if it was an accident, but I tried it and it looked great, the end.

Also don't feel bad if you can't do cat eyes or wings or whatever because sometimes your eye shape poses limitations. The outer corners of my eyes JUST WILL NOT, I've tried pulling them taut, using primer, and it just won't happen minus a lot of trial and error. Be strong!

Sister Administrator

@Nancy Sin I'm intrigued, but I don't really know what you mean. A line right under the iris?

celeec4@twitter

@Sister Administrator This sounds like what I do for a very subtle look. That is to line the outer edge of the lower lid, the starting point being somewhere at the iris, and the lines ends at the corner of my eye. If I use a soft black, it will give a lot of definition since I don't really have many lower eyelashes.

I want to pull off the jeans + boots + cute shirt look, but I'm kind of apple shaped with a butt (I don't know, it's an odd shape) and that looks just makes my ass look huge. Tips? Suggestions?

MoxyCrimeFighter

@S. Elizabeth Hmm...a sturdy, flatter boot (rather than a high heel, which I find gives me triangle-leg) to provide balance to your middle (and if you can find a pair that hit right around the knee to even out the proportion of your calves/thighs in relation to each other, even better) - and a shirt that gathers under your bust at the narrowest part of your torso then falls pretty much straight down to about your hips?

I know that sounds like a lot of, like, horizontal layers, like a parfait, which they always say is something to avoid, because it makes you look wide, but I have short legs and I find that it works to keep me from looking stumpy. I'll add some vertical elements like a scarf, long necklace, or one of those drapey open sweaters to sort of elongate things.

ETA: Oh, cosign on what @laurel said! If you add something to draw the eye up to your face/shoulder/neck/bust area, it helps balance things. Adding "bulk" isn't the right way to say it, but sort of. I feel like I'm a sort of oval shape overall, with wide hips and thighs, so I try to make myself more of a "rectangle."

laurel

@S. Elizabeth: I find wearing a small fitted jacket, something with a defined waist, really helps me not turn into a blob in the middle.

Sea Ermine

@S. Elizabeth Try and find a skinny jean that is just an eensy weensy bit looser below the knee. Not so that it's baggy or bunchy, just so that it doesn't look like you saran wrapped your calves with denim. Awful company but these work great for this, you can't tell because they look bad on the model but they look much better on ladies with bigger hips or butts (or both). Also, try and find a boot with a wider opening. A lot of riding boots are sort of narrow on the bottom but you want something looser but still structured. Like maybe an engineer boot (that comes up to your knee) or a wide calf boot (even if you don't have a wide calf).

Shayna

@S. Elizabeth I am this shape! The butt just makes it weird, right? I'm heavier to boot, so... trust me I know. You can indeed wear skinny jeans; the key is to cover your butt. I wear a lot of tunic-y things, which sounds medieval, but really you can wear any shorter dress with skinny jeans. Wear a belt at your natural waist (not around your stomach, then you look pregnant) and voila. And boots of course.
And if you're looking for a place to buy them, well, it's a terrible, awful company, but Forever 21 has some great skinny jeans (and I'm a size 18 or so... you might have to go into the plus size section, or as I like to call it, Almost-Every-Lady-I-Know section, but it's worth it).

melis

ALSO. If we're going to talk about small eyes: "We do the big eyes/small eyes! My eyes are smaller than yours, sir. You want a squint-off? I got little crab eyes!"

Canal

re quitting smoking: THE. EASY. WAY. I can't evangelicize this enough. I started smoking at 13 and smoked 1.5 (2+) packs/day when I quit at 32 yrs old (5 yrs ago). I tried all the methods (for the love of god, do not EVER EVER even think about Chantix). One very hungover Saturday, I read a book that my friend gave me months earlier, and that afternoon, I didn't smoke anymore. I didn't have to quit, or try to quit, or gain weight or have withdrawl. I just didn't smoke anymore. I had a 1/2 pack in my apartment forever afterwards just to test it. Never wanted one. I tried a cigarette just to test it a few weeks after and almost threw up. Couldn't even inhale it. I don't smoke. My nose is better than a bloodhound's now. I can tell you every ingredient in every dish. I know who hasn't washed their hair or made their bed. But I don't smoke!! I can't believe anyone still does. So, the book is called the Easy Way to Quit Smoking. Even if you're not ready, just buy it now to have around for reading one day when you need an excuse to lay in bed all day. It's been around for 30+ years and relies on word of mouth. All you have to lose is $12. Please quit now, though.

I'm also an expert on dry shampoo! Klorane is the best, and they have a non-aerosol verion too. Batiste is sold in drugstores and has the best fragrances (Floral = Michael Kors, but here are plenty others if you jam different). TreSemme smells worse than cilantro; kind of like you spent the night in a port authority bathroom and went to work without brushing your teeth. But it's still better than smelling like a smoker!!

http://www.amazon.com/The-Easy-Way-Stop-Smoking/dp/1402771630/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1355433183&sr=8-2&keywords=the+easy+way+to+stop+smoking+by+allen+carr

tamarab

This is a response to the quitting smoking post. I know this sounds hokey, but this book, The Easyway to Stop Smoking by Allen Carr, helped me quit and hey,919 Amazon reviewers can't be total liars. It's badly written, but if you can get through it, it really helps. This is coming from a girl who thought she'd never successfully quit. Just my 2 cents....

Canal

@tamarab It's true! The whole time you're reading it, you're kind of laughing and wondering if it was written by a 7th grader. But it works!

Homestar Runner

@tamarab My husband used that book to stop smoking. It just worked...so weird. He's around smokers a lot socially and still hasn't relapsed two years later.

nonvolleyball

I'm late to the party, but I feel you, highlights girl--I'm in the same "blonde as a child, dark-blonde/light-brown as an adult" boat you're in, plus a cheapskate.

...my solution is just to get my hair cut & highlighted once a year, & then let it grow way out in between. it's kind of hilarious to me that "ombré hair" is a Thing now, because in my world that's just "oh look at my giant-ass roots." but seriously, it looks fine, & then I get the best of both worlds--hair that's long enough to braid/ponytail for at least half the year, & an annual "oh my god you got all your hair cut off!" from all my coworkers after my yearly transformation back to the layered bob I'd have year-round if I were rich.

tamarab

@Canal - hah! I think we posted that just about the same time! I even had the nerve to secretly pity smokers after I read the book. Worth so much more than the $12 you spend on it.

MissMushkila

I want to know what lipstick Angelina Jolie is wearing it that last picture. I have been searching everywhere for that light nude color? I cannot find it. Recommendations?

Canal

@MissMushkila i just bought Chanel's evanescence that looks exactly like that (if you add a bit of gloss, the lipstick is on the matte side).

christonacracker

@MissMushkila try chanticaille lip chic in sari rose.

Kivrin

Eyeliner girl: Start watching makeup tutorials on YouTube. Checkout Pixiwoo, Wayne Goss, Linda Eldridge... You're bound to pick up some tips.

Beatrix Kiddo

@Briony Fields There really isn't. The woman who sits next to me (in an open office) puts on HUGE amounts of perfume and it makes me sneeze uncontrollably, but she's so nice I never know if I should say something.

par_parenthese

@Beatrix Kiddo I vote for SPEAK UP. I think you can go about it in a way that makes her not feel like she's being attacked for liking her signature scent, like, "Joann, this is awful but my allergies have just been terrible lately and some scents really get me going. I think your perfume is making me sneeze! Isn't that the worst? It's such a bother, but would you mind going without it for a couple days to see if that's it?"

lora.bee

This isn't related to this Beauty Q&A, but can I get some mascara suggestions? I feel like all the ones I buy lately do absolutely nothing to my lashes.
Or maybe it's the curler...is there a particularly awesome curler anyone has found?

par_parenthese

@lora.bee Mascara junkie right here. CoverGirl Lash Blast Volume in the orange tube is my favorite mascara EVER and it's so frickin cheap and available everywhere. But I'm sooo particular about The Right Way to Apply Mascara -- a combination of wiggling back and forth at the base and "blinking" my lashes through the bristles, which results in thick-looking, loooooong lashes that look like they've been curled without taking the time to curl. I think if you don't do that there's no point in putting it on at all.

Pygmalion

@lora.bee Diorshow Blackout mascara is the absolute best. I've used it for forever, and even though it's pricey and a bitch to take off at night, it's totally worth it. For curlers, I use the Shu Uemura one.

http://www.sephora.com/diorshow-black-out-mascara-P175208

mlle.gateau

@lora.bee Diorshow Extase is the shiz. I am a total evangelist for that stuff.

oh! valencia

@mlle.gateau Relatedly, is there ever going to be a continuation of the Mascarapedia thing?

lisma

@lora.bee I completely agree about application. In fact, I think application is equally important as the actual mascara.
That being said, I recommend: CoverGirl Lash Blast, Lancome Hypnose, and Diorshow Iconic. I've heard good things about Benefit's They're Real! too.

Betsy Murgatroyd

LW #1: It might be worth your while to take a zinc supplement while you quit and after. It may restore your sense of smell and taste. IANAD but anecdata suggests that it has worked for people I know, most notably my grandfather.

explanation points

@Betsy Murgatroyd Hi, I'm LW1. I know it's going to sound weird, but I'm actually a super-smeller, I have no problem smelling or tasting things now (as a trying-to-quit smoker), before (as a 10+ cigs a day smoker) and I doubt I'll want anything but to shut OFF the incredible amount of information that comes in via my nose when I finally quit completely!

(Seriously, super smeller. I can smell milk when it's not off but heading there, smell when people are getting sick or have gotten laid recently, just a few of the many many annoying things my nose has told me... it sounds crazy but this is one of the reasons I started smoking in the first place and find it so hard to quit.)

But thank you. :)

oboe-d-amore

I'm late to the party on this post, but I want to mention that skinny jeans come in a wide range of cuts, from almost-straight-leg to suction-cup-around-your-calves. So it might require (a lot of) trial and error to find the ones that you like/find comfortable/fit right, BUT they do all fit inside of boots.

Lindsay Pavelka@facebook

Blondish grad student - I have a suggestion for you! I have the same dark blonde/20-years-of-highlights issue, and now that I am a stay-at-home-mom I feel awful dropping the ducats on my hairs. My AWESOME stylist highlights my hair and then does a "base break" which is like a light gentle bleach treatment that just lightens up your color a little. When I get the whole shebang+haircut done it costs around $200 but because she is so talented I can go like six months without getting highlights and just go in every six weeks and do the base break - for which she charges next to nothing ($25 w/o cut if you leave with wet hair). She also does free bang trims. Can you call around in your metro area and see if any salons offer a base break between highlights, what they charge, and then try that salon? FWIW, I'm in Redondo Beach, CA, so if you live in LA google "Salon Barberet." :) It's so much more affordable than getting the whole head highlighted every six weeks. It grows out surprisingly well.

NiceDress

This may be an unpopular opinion, but... I really don't like the whole ombre hair color thing, and hope it goes away soon. It's one of those things that looks edgy yet soft in fashion spreads and on runways, but when people do it in real life I think it ends up looking trashy most of the time. I doubt it will go away any time soon since as Jane said it's convenient and requires less maintenance than keeping up one's roots. Maybe it will grow on me.

tea sonata

@NiceDress I agree, I don't like it either. I am currently growing out my black hair dye and after 1yr 4 months my roots are now ombre length, and I'm very conscious of the fact that THIS IS ROOTS. I did not dye my hair like this. It looks silly to me. But hair grows, fashions change, I'll get over it.

NiceDress

@tea sonata As you said, hair grows and fashion changes. If it makes you feel any better, I think it's better with dark hair than on light/blonde hair... not as much in-your-face contrast I suppose.

whizz_dumb

I recently stopped what little smoking-while-drinking I was doing, and decided to make my shirts/jean-jacket smell extra good. I immediately remembered stealing a whiff of a neighbor's pack of dryer sheets, which smelled amazing. Meyer's Clean Day (I'm sure you're familiar) Lemon Verbena Dryer sheets: put 'em in your shirt drawer.

explanation points

@whizz_dumb LW1 here. Sadly, I'm allergic to most dryer sheets (and most perfumes, which is why I was so sad that this one stinks), but I keep all my BPAL vials in a bag in my dresser and maybe I'll spread them out after I quit, haha.

cocokins

After spending the better part of three weeks looking for some cool "shoe-boots," I came to the conclusion yesterday that knee-high boots look awful on me. Blame it on the monstrous calves (gotta get those wide-calf boots), blame it on the height (5'1"!), but it was a look that did not work. Sometimes you just have to admit defeat.

sparrow303

Um, the natural fabric deodorizer? AMAZING. My (fabric-covered) desk chair has smelled terribly of hospital disinfectant since I threw a shirt over it after a dr's appointment LAST SUMMER. Made the deodorizer yesterday, sprayed the hell out of my chair, and now it smells like cloves and SUCCESS.

Thanks, Jane!

notfromvenus

LW2 - Cheap chain places like Hair Cuttery do highlights for like $50-80. Might not look quite as awesome as the $200 ones, but if $200 every couple months isn't in your budget it's a moot point.

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