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Monday, November 12, 2012

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You Say Tomato, I Say ABE-raham

Yesterday, I overheard a man talking on a pay phone: "The movie! You know, the one about Abra-HAM Lincoln. That one!" THE END.

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Ophelia

There are still pay phones?

formergr

@Ophelia That was my main takeaway from this!

Bittersweet

@Ophelia Yes, and apparently they came in very handy in post-Sandy NYC, when no one could charge their mobiles and many towers were out anyway. It made me feel better about keeping a corded phone in my basement for emergencies.

Ophelia

@Bittersweet Huh, good to know! Looks like Neo isn't totally screwed after all.

KatnotCat

@Bittersweet Are there a lot in NYC? I am aware of exactly one functioning one in the DC metro system because I frequently lean on it during my morning commute, but otherwise I feel like they are nonexistent.

Bittersweet

@KatnotCat The news story I saw about this said that there aren't many in NYC, but there are still a number downtown. It showed people waiting in line with handfuls of quarters. Wow.

aliceandstuff
katiemcgillicuddy

@aliceandstuff Wow. I think I just had a stroke.

meetapossum

Is this where we can talk about pronunciation choices we find odd? I have several friends from the south who keep saying "IN-sure-ance" instead of "in-SURE-ance" for "insurance."

See also: "UM-brell-a" vs. "um-BRELL-a".

Jane Marie

@meetapossum ooh, I thought it was "um-breh-LAH!"

Ophelia

@meetapossum DIA-be-tus

Rock and Roll Ken Doll

@Jane Marie
It is if you're singing and spinning about while you say it!!

"um-bre-LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHH!"

meetapossum

@Jane Marie It's levi-O-sah, not levi-o-SAH.

Ophelia

@meetapossum Nigella Lawson just pronounced "vermouth" as "VER-meth"

formergr

@meetapossum "Ma-TOOR" for "mature" gets me every time. Ugh.

Poubelle

@Rock and Roll Ken Doll Ella, ella, eh, eh, eh

Blushingflwr

@meetapossum
THANKS-giving instead of thanks-GIVING
RED light instead of red LIGHT (I guess, in general, default to emphasizing the adjective over the noun)

Also, not a pronunciation thing, but "ink pen" gets me every time. It's usually said by people who say "pen" and "pin" similarly, so I guess that's the origin, but by default, a pen uses ink, that's what makes it a pen!

SarahP

@Blushingflwr Do you mean when talking about the holiday? THANKSgiving is for the act, ThanksGIVING is for the holiday.

meetapossum

@Blushingflwr I think it's a symptom of the southern accent? My friends also sometimes say "PAY-per towel" instead of "paper TOWEL"

meetapossum

@Ophelia I just made the grumpy cat frown at the computer.

fondue with cheddar

@Blushingflwr YES that kind of redundancy drives me crazy! See also: "What about rain inside?"

Blushingflwr

@SarahP I do indeed mean the holiday.

@meetapossum - I think you're right. I'm from upstate NY originally but I live in DC now, so I hear a lot more southern accents than I grew up with.

Bittersweet

@meetapossum Sometimes, out of nowhere, I say "TEE-vee" instead of "tee-VEE." I blame Joey from Friends.

christonacracker

@meetapossum just discovered that my new dudefriend says "pellow" instead of pillow. I'm thinking it's over, but we'll have to have some discussions about wolves and roofs and milk and such before I decide.

KatnotCat

@meetapossum Um, I may be both of these but I am unsure. UNsure? UnSURE? I can't tell which versions are supposed to be correct! How do you say the paper part of paper towel?

This reminds me of when I was viciously teased for my pronunciation of "crouton" freshman year of college. What am I doing wrong? Ah!

fondue with cheddar

@christonacracker AAAAHH my last boyfriend said "pellow" and "melk"! Drove me nuts.

@KatnotCat Unless you say KRAUT-on then I don't think you're doing anything wrong. It should rhyme with "futon".

I pronounce it UNsure, and I've never heard anyone say anything different.

Elsajeni

@meetapossum I think there is a tendency for Southerners to sort of... hmm. When I do it I think of it as smooshing multiple words into one word, so that the emphasis in the first word is maintained and the second word is de-emphasized entirely, as in "po-TAY-tosalad" or your "PAY-pertowel" example.

(Boy, does spellcheck hate this comment! Look at all them little red squigglies.)

Kulojam

@meetapossum I'm from Alabama and yep, I carry my UMbrella for INsurance on THANKSgivin'. I never even knew that my pronunciation was different until I moved to NYC and was mocked mercilessly. I also pronounce warrior so that it rhymes with lawyer. The latter is just plain incorrect, I know, but the first few examples? Meh, it is my charming accent.

meetapossum

@Kulojam I thought UMbrella was just a fluke from my one friend (from SC) until I realized my Texan friends did the same thing. Ever since I have been on a quest to see if it's a southern thing, and man, is it ever.

Bittersweet

@Blushingflwr My husband is from upstate NY. My favorite upstate pronunciation is "SAY-er-day," AKA the 6th day of the week.

For some reason my brother-in-law says "AY-pud" instead of "iPod," which generates visions of little electronic wangs in people's pockets and handbags.

meetapossum

Even Merriam-Webster says that pronunciation is especially Southern.

Ophelia

@fondue with cheddar I'm pretty sure I pronounce it un-SURE

Blushingflwr

@Bittersweet Where-ish upstate? Because I definitely don't say that. I might say something closer to sadder-day than satter-day, but there's absolutely a consonant in there.

KatnotCat

@fondue with cheddar Apparently I saw CREW-ton. Or crew-TAWN?

I literally do not know which incorrect way I say it, but it was roundly mocked. Whichever one sounds the least accurate and the most like a drunk True Blood character, I guess.

Bittersweet

@Blushingflwr Outside of Ithaca. The missing of the "t" is not always that extreme, but it's definitely a very flat "a" at the beginning.

Blushingflwr

@Bittersweet I'm from the Utica area, and yeah, we love our flat, nasal "a"s. I once had a singing lesson where the teacher had me just do the vowels in the words and the "a" before an "n" was pretty intensely nasal. I'd never noticed it before, of course

fondue with cheddar

@Ophelia Wait...I don't know why I wrote UNsure, because I say unSURE.

I think I was originally going to say that I only say UNsure when I want to particularly emphasize the "un". Like if someone asked me, "Are you sure?" I would say, "I'm UNsure."

Also, I make fun of my boyfriend this morning for saying "Bill CAWSby". I don't think he normally says it that way.

meetapossum

@fondue with cheddar Once I accidentally said "Pawl" instead of "Paul" and was made fun of mercilessly.

fondue with cheddar

@meetapossum Haha. I've got some family from NYC so I don't think much of it unless I hear it from the mouth of someone who doesn't have that accent. Then it's just weird!

terrific

My boyfriend pronounces Roosevelt as ROO-se-velt, like a presidential marsupial.

It's ROH-se-velt, right!!?!? I've put a lot of effort into insisting his weird pronunciation is a Queens/NYC thing.

fondue with cheddar

@terrific Definitely ROH.

Ophelia

@terrific My husband's family is from Brooklyn/Queens/Long Island, and I concur that there are some weird pronunciations going on there. That said, they say ROH-se-velt like the rest of us. It might be specific to him, rather than Queens?

meetapossum

@terrific Teddy says you're correct. That being said, I know several people from NYC/Queens originally who say it "Roh-se-velt", so I have no idea where your bf got it from.

terrific

@meetapossum It's him and all of his friends! They are the only people I've ever met (and I know my fair share of born-in-Queensers) that pronounce it that way.

meetapossum

@terrific Well, you tell them all that Theodore Roosevelt says they're wrong!

terrific

@meetapossum Oh, I did. I even made a handy image to explain it in their language.

meetapossum

@terrific This is the greatest thing.

KanadrAllegria@twitter

@terrific I never talk about Roosevelt, but I can't be 100% sure I wouldn't say the name like the marsupial... I think, for me at least, it comes from being an avid reader, and learning to say words the way they are spelled, rather than learning to say them by having someone else teach me how to say them. If that makes sense.

fondue with cheddar

@KanadrAllegria@twitter I totally get that, because I'm that way about certain words, too.

I think I learned how to pronounce Roosevelt from Sesame Street, because there's a character named Roosevelt Franklin.

Judith Slutler

But what about Bond? Can we have a Bond thread???

SarcasticFringehead

@Emmanuelle Cunt Yes! Two is a thread, right?

Seriously, that might join Star Trek as one of the few movies I have ever seen more than once in the theater.

Judith Slutler

@SarcasticFringehead I was really loving all of the hammy "The house is England and M is your Bad Mommy and London is the vulnerable global city in the age of asymmetric war*" symbolism. They laid it on so thick! And Javier Bardem's haircut! (I was hiding in my scarf during the part where he showed what the cyanide did to his face though. I am a wimp.)

However, dear lord, the Orientalism. I swear that casino scene was like a 1920s British fever dream of Asia. Also way to sneak up on the traumatized sex worker in the shower, jeez.

*Actually, that's not symbolism, that's alarmingly literal

SarcasticFringehead

@Emmanuelle Cunt Yeah, it wasn't...subtle. I mean, not that I was expecting it to be, but it sure wasn't. I think Silva's face thing makes him the physically creepiest bond villain - much more so than the campier ones from before.

I feel like the casino being so over the top made it almost more realistic, in that it seems like the kind of place you'd design to attract tourists who want the full colonialist experience. On the other hand, when the only Asian characters you have in your movie are the ones working in a place like that, you're not so much subverting the trope as playing right along with it.

And the shower scene was one of the least sexy scenes in recent memory. The whole time I was super-uncomfortable for her.

And! We get a badass female agent of color, who ultimately decides that field work isn't for her? Boo. I mean, at least she didn't die of the Bond death-penis or whatever, but still boo.

SarcasticFringehead

@Emmanuelle Cunt But! The opening credits! The lonely house in the Scottish moors (or whatever they're called)! The homemade booby traps! The thing with the train and the construction equipment!

Blackwatch Plaid

@Emmanuelle Cunt My boyfriend finally came out as bi because of Q, and now he won't stop talking about his hair. So I'm a fan.

whateverlolawants

@SarcasticFringehead Everything about Severine made me sad. The Komodo dragon scene was pretty hilarious, though.

Judith Slutler

@Blackwatch Plaid That is fantastic omg

youguyshaveapool!

"I'm at a PAY PHONE talkin' bout Lincoln..." - Maroon 5 Lincoln Soundtrack Remix

I'm Right on Top of that, Rose

@youguyshaveapool! "...all of the things he did as prez. Where has the time gone, this war is been so long, he goes to a play to clear his head..."

Weasley

I was in line waiting to buy tickets to a movie while Mission Impossible: Ghost Protocol was in theaters and I heard the guy in front me say, "I want one ticket to the ghost movie with Tom Cruis".

samjohn4810

Is this where we can talk about pronunciation choices we find odd? I have several friends from the south who keep saying "IN-sure-ance" instead of "in-SURE-ance" for "insurance." sell settlement

bescasey

And the shower scene was one of the least sexy scenes in recent memory. The whole time I was super-uncomfortable for her.

And! We get a badass female agent of color, who ultimately decides that field work isn't for her? Boo. I mean, at least she didn't die of the Bond death-penis or whatever, but still boo...tempurpedic

bescasey

And the shower scene was one of the least sexy scenes in recent memory. The whole time I was super-uncomfortable for her.

And! We get a badass female agent of color, who ultimately decides that field work isn't for her? Boo. I mean, at least she didn't die of the Bond death-penis or whatever, but still boo...tempurpedic

bescasey

And the shower scene was one of the least sexy scenes in recent memory. The whole time I was super-uncomfortable for her.

And! We get a badass female agent of color, who ultimately decides that field work isn't for her? Boo. I mean, at least she didn't die of the Bond death-penis or whatever, but still boo...tempurpedic

bescasey

And the shower scene was one of the least sexy scenes in recent memory. The whole time I was super-uncomfortable for her.

And! We get a badass female agent of color, who ultimately decides that field work isn't for her? Boo.I mean, at least she didn't die of the Bond death-penis or whatever, but still boo...tempurpedic

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