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Oh god, I'm going to be first in line to see this. Both trailers have left me teary.
I just hope Russell Crowe (booo) doesn't ruin Stars, aka the best song in the whole thing except for maybe One Day More.
@Inconceivable! Me too! Though I also worry about Russell Crowe, screwing up Stars and Soliloquy.
@Bittersweet Yeah, in this trailer he kind of sounds like he's singing with marbles in his mouth :(
@Inconceivable! It's already apparent that Amanda Seyfried is murdering Cosette. At least Hugh Jackman will probably do a good Bring Him Home?
@dorkmuffin He'd better, it's the best song in the whole freakin' show (which is saying a lot).
@Bittersweet I don't know if I can bring myself to watch this movie. I'm afraid that, even though it is sure to be one of three moments of good singing in the entire three hours, Jackman's rendition won't come CLOSE to as good as Colm Wilkinson in the 10th anniversary concert.
@Inconceivable! Philip Quast's rendition of Stars 4EVA.
@Bittersweet That song is a rather shameless rip-off of the Humming Chorus from "Madame Butterfly." I love the rest of the score, though.
I highly recommend it.@a
You guys. YOU GUYS. Two lines from One Day More and Hugh Jackman is already GIVING IT.
Eponine> Cosette x a billion
@Steph Agreed. On My Own was my jam when I was fifteen.
@Steph To be fair, Cosette is terribly mistreated as a kid, and then her adoptive father tells her NOTHING about ANYTHING, and then she gets like 5 minutes of time onstage after that as Marius' love object from afar. And who can't identify with Eponine's pining for someone who doesn't love her back? That's, like, a universal theme, man.
@Dandyliongirl Me too- I would listen to it over and over and think about some boy I liked who "never saw me there." Song still makes me emotional.
@Steph For sure. I recently read the book though and both Marius and Cosette are SOO LAME that they probably deserve each other. Eponine will meet a super hot guy in heaven.
Ya'll need to make sure this gets good box office. I'm not in love w/ the musical or anything, but it's my life goal to make like, a 5 season HBO "miniseries" (hahaha i think last time i thought about it i wanted like, 13 episodes per season, so thats, i dunno, 65 hours? plus a few extra, some would run long) where HBO would just give me millions of dollars and i could built a little 8 block paris set and just slowly make the whole damn unabridged novel, 50 page digressions on argot and waterloo and all.
@leon s I might actually get HBO if that was airing.
ETA: Though I'd have to get a TV first...
@leon s There's actually a French miniseries starring Gerard Depardieu (and in a random bit of casting, John Malkovitch) that you can find on YouTube in all its 6-hour subtitled glory. (The version on Netflix is edited down to 2 hours and dubbed in English. I do NOT recommend it. Watch the whole thing on YouTube.)
@leon s I... I love you.
@izzy - Six hours? Valjean is still a mayor at the point of my series.
I know zero things about this musical and now this movie. Can I see it in the theaters and understand what is going on, or should I request all Pinners to break down a synopsis for me?
(I never care about spoilers, but I do care about getting riled up and frothy in my utter bewilderment in between songs)
@PatatasBravas Here are the things that I know:
-Les Miserables sounds French. Is it set in France?
-Something sounds miserable. Is it a tragedy?
-I think there are, like, some family dilemmas in there. Is there a daughter we are supposed to fret about? Or is that Sweeney Todd?
-People get excited about trailers.
@PatatasBravas YES ALL OF THE ABOVE
(you should be able to understand the movie in theaters! I will wait for a better Pinner to give a synopsis because it's been years since I've seen the stage version and my memory is a little sloppy)
@PatatasBravas You can definitely just see the movie and get the story. The book is epic and full of weirdness, but also wonderful. So if you feel like tackling 800 plus pages, do it!
-It is set in early 19th century France, so there is lots of revolutionary spirit.
-Things are pretty miserable for the poor. It's a tragedy. Prepare to weep.
-The family stuff is fairly complicated but it boils down to an orphan girl and her adopted father being in deep shit. Fretting is mandatory.
@PatatasBravas The script leaked awhile back and although it's been ruthelessly taken down, the buzz is that it's well structured. Basically the movie is about poor people ("The Wretched" is a close translation of the title) and how The Man is always trying to keep them down, but maybe The Man is also just a cog in this great machine? And there is some comic relief but they are also sort of evil. There's a love triangle and deeply hidden family secrets, and young men playing at soldiers but maybe they're also earn the right to be considered real soldiers?
@PatatasBravas Just read the book, it's only like 1400 pages long.
@PatatasBravas Former convict, who is now wealthy, is running away from his past and takes in orphan girl from dying mother. Orphan girl falls in love with rich boy. Rich boy has a stalker peasant girl following him around. Tavern keepers provide comic relief. Inspector figures out who former convict is. People are all up in the revolutionary spirit. A battle is fought at a barracade. Flags are waived. Love triangle continues apace. And SPOILER ALERT everyone you like dies. Only survivors are the lame ones.
@PatatasBravas Also Victor Hugo was not a fan of Three Strikes laws.
@lobsterhug When I was in high school, before I'd ever seen Les Mis, I regularly babysat an incredibly precocious 4-year-old who loved it. She gave me a synopsis, which included, "...and she was a whore but not because she wanted to be, because she had to be!"
@Hellcat That child has been raised right. I went to see Les Miserables because tickets were all I wanted for my birthday...in first grade.
As for the summary, the only thing I have to add is that SOME people (no one here, obviously) will try to tell you it takes place during the French Revolution. They are wrong. So wrong.
@TheLetterL It takes place during *a* French Revolution though!
ETA: Though I believe most of the actual action was between rival monarchist factions, and the Republican students portrayed in Les Mis were kind of a sideshow.
@stuffisthings (If you can't tell I'm way more interested in the revolutionary aspects that make up like 5% of the story than all the love story nonsense. Gender gap!)
@stuffisthings Little-r-revolution? Rebellion? Uprising? Students with guns? Just don't expect guillotines.
@Techmo Also important to the plot: Precocious ruffian child who's French but speaks with a thick British accent. Always.
@SuperGogo Yeah! Why the hell is that?
Revolutions and The Man and inspiring precocious children to recount the character dramas of sex work? SIGN ME UP
@SuperGogo The revolutionaries are also very adept at stacking furniture.
@stuffisthings Hey, women like revolutions too. Especially those set to stirring music.
@Hellcat I've always assumed the original London cast's Gavroche must have been so dang precocious and cute with his little Cockney accent that all future Gavroches have emulated him, right down to the inaccurate accent. But I have no actual idea.
These trailers are reducing me to squeeing lady parts and weepy feels. I'm just so excited.
I love how raw the singing is. Like if people really did express themselves through song, this is what it would be.
I am SO. TORN. About this movie. I was totally dreading it, but then I saw this behind-the-scenes thing about how all the music is recorded live during filming, and not ahead of time in the studio, which is pretty awesome.
Russell Crowe is gross. At life and and singing.
I may develop a Marius crush after this.
@LinaLamont Eddie Redmayne!!! OMG.
Am I the only person who HATED Les Miserables? (The play-- haven't read the book.)
I can't do gifs to save my life, so, um, Donald Sutherland pointing and shrieking from the final scene of the 1970s remake of 'Invasion of the Body Snatchers.'
(No, no. It's fine. I'm not upset.)
@Nicole Cliffe I got your back, homefry:
@Beatrix Kiddo I have never seen it/read it, all I know is my high school marching band did a terrible mash up (before mash ups were cool) of Les Mis music and American patriotic music and it was terrible. Both the idea, and the actual Les Mis music.
I love musicals, but this is a no go for me. I also don't like Phantom - I think it's a sad-musical thing.
@polka dots vs stripes A mash up of Le Mis music and American patriotic music? For some reason that reminds of that woman on Twitter who wanted to move to Australia.
Republican: It does not mean the same thing in France!
@stuffisthings It more of a like, REVOLUTION!! theme, except the tshirts they made for the year also had the Confederate stars and bars on it? At a high school in the mid-Atlantic? I think the band director just couldn't pick what he wanted to do.
My mother made my sister throw the shirt out.
@polka dots vs stripes Iiinteresting. I mean it is about students being shot by the National Guard, maybe he could've done a Kent State theme?
Oh god, don't mind me, a dust storm just flew into my eyes.
P.S. I have no idea what technically good singing (I am definitely a more visual person and for instance, have Feelings about fonts) so while I can appreciate everyone's critiques of the actors and actresses I have to say that I don't actually hear the flaws. I will probably love this movie too much.
@RK Fire Yeah, I will pretty much sweep over any poor singing while my mom sits next to me slackjawed in fury that someone with a weak vibrato has been permitted to sing the role of Cosette, or whatever musical insult she thinks most apt at the time. I will love Les Mis no matter what.
@RK Fire FONT FEELINGS! Yes! How do you feel about Hobo? I hate it. HATE IT.
@Hellcat: I had to look it up since I don't get to really play with fonts any more and my feeling is this: it should be used sparingly. o_O I could see it going the way of Papyrus.
@RK Fire Papyrus is definitely overused, which is sad because I don't find it to be ugly.
I'm a sucker for any of the corroded-typewriter looking ones (Schmutz, for example) and any 1950s retro one like HoneyScript and Sparkly Diner.
@Hellcat Oh, and I HATE Reliq!
@RK Fire Yeah, I don't know much about music, but I can appreciate feelings, and feelings are what that trailer has in spades.
Was Helena Bonham Carter not informed it's a costume drama?
@Tomatoes. Clorox. And can we talk about 1.27, where Marius (I think) and Eponine look like two college kids out for a stroll? Go put your trench coat on, Eponine. God.
Edit: Or is that Enjolras? In which case, where is your vest, sir?
I've never read or seen Les Miserables and don't really know what it's about (I may be the last person on earth in this situation--I've also never seen the Godfather movies), but...Sacha Baron Cohen??!
@siniichulok To be fair, his and Helena Bonham Carter's characters are basically the comic relief of the show.
@siniichulok yeah seriously, what is Ali G doing in Les Miz?
@siniichulok He plays this role. Thenadier gets an even better song later on, but I don't want to post it because it's a bit spoilery.
@siniichulok he was in Sweeney Todd too.
@runner in the garden I feel like I remember him being really good in Sweeney Todd, actually.
yeaaaahhh not loving the casting of the Thenardiers. Those parts are preeeetttyyy hammy, and these two might take them over the top.
@siniichulok Sacha Baron Cohen was actually really great in Hugo!
@siniichulok Those were actually question marks and exclamation points of excitement. :) I think he's a pretty brilliant actor and may see this just to see him--I'll just have to work hard *not* to expect him to change into a track suit and start interviewing people.
Guys, confession, I got my first kiss to the dulcet tones of the young man that would eventually become my best friend singing "Master of the House" on a videotaped recording of a children's theater production of Les Mis: School Edition. I hope that would make sense. It wasn't terribly romantic.
God, the 1830s was an amazing time for sleeves.
@lobsterhug I just rewatched the BBC miniseries of Little Dorrit (which actually takes place in the 1850s) and the sleeves game was amazing. Check this: http://www.bbc.co.uk/littledorrit/characterandcast/mrsmerdle.shtml
@Maghrebi That is on my to-watch list! Maybe it's the Anne of Green Gables fan in me, but I'm always on the lookout for cool sleeves.
I somehow gasped and started crying at the same time when "One Day More" started playing. At work.
Also, I'm okay with Amanda Seyfried kind of sucking, because in my opinion Cosette always kind of sucks so whatever.
Anne Hathaway totally redid her singing from the first trailer, it's SO much better!
@Sarah H. It's the same version, I think, just without the (painfully obvious) Auto-tuning they did for the US trailer OF COURSE. All the singing was done live anyway, so the feels are real.
So holy crap, this movie has All The Stars, I guess? I think I saw:
~ Anne Hathaway?!
~ HUGH JACKMAN
~ Amanda Seyfried
~ Russell Crowe (?!?!)
~ Helena Bonham Carter
~ The "THIS.IS.SPARTA" guy?
Am I taking crazy pills, or is this happening?
@wee_ramekin Gerard Butler isn't in it (though apparently he was the Phantom of the Opera in 2004)
@runner in the garden That Phantom of the Opera movie is the worst thing that ever happened (to me). Gerard Butler is no phantom I tell you that.
Soooo Toronto 'Pinners, we should make a night of this, yes?
Also, I think I heard Branson from Downton Abbey at the beginning? Am I crazy?
@Megano! I'm a near-Toronto 'Pinner (in Peterborough), and I'd totally head to Toronto for that. All my musical-loving friends are in London, and won't drive 4 hours to visit me and go see it...jerks.
@Bert Macklin, FBI Join the Toronto Hairpin Group cuz that's probably how this thing will get organized!
Guys, guys, guys, I'd strongly recommend listening to this at work ALL DAY:
10th Anniversary Concert IN ITS ENTIRETY ON YOUTUBE WITH GOOD SOUND QUALITY. CLICK FOR AWESOME.
Full 10th anniversary concert performance with a dream cast! A MILLION TIMES BETTER THAN THE CRAP WITH THE JONAS BROTHER.
@dorkmuffin Listening to the original London cast recording on Spotify right now. With Colm Wilkinson and PATTI as Fantine. Bonus nostalgia points for this recording, as I bought the tape after seeing the show in London in spring 1991...and wore it out in my Walkman.
@Bittersweet PATTI! I have a memory of being maybe 8 and seeing the TV commercial for Evita with Patti! I thought she looked so mean yet so awesome when she sang, "...just a little touch of..."
Do we have a fashion expert who can discuss the décolletage in this movie? Did Parisian ladies of the 1830s really show so much boob? In the snow, even?
@stuffisthings -- Kind of?
@stuffisthings Eponine's look seems a bit anachronistic, but I'd say Cosette is accurately attired.
@lobsterhug Well, and given who Eponine is, I'd guess she doesn't have the dolla billz for clothes that, like, fit her body and stuff.
@par_parenthese *franc coinz
@stuffisthings Snorted. :D
Wait, so, GUYS. Is this going full-blown operetta, ie every line is going to be SUNG? Crikey.
@Tatiana Berg@facebook God I hope so. If I remember correctly, that's how the actual musical is.
@Tatiana Berg@facebook It's "sung through" but the actors evidently had a lot of leeway about how much was strictly sung and how much is kind of rhythmic talking, since it was all recorded live.
Also, I am ashamed by this, but all I see when Eponine is on screen is her TINY TINY WAIST. Where are her ribs?!
Gah! The video is not loading for me here, and I can't find any trace of a new trailer on YouTube, just the older one. Can someone provide a linky please? Before I implode?
They just yanked it, we've found a new one WATCH WHILE YOU CAN!
@SuperGogo They just released an official on YouTube: http://youtu.be/YmvHzCLP6ug
@Nicole Cliffe Ah! ah! ah!....thank you.
MORE ENJOLRAS! MORE ENJOLRAS! MORE ENJOLRAS!
He looks cute, and he does say "TO THE BARRICADES" (which may not have been in the play?) well. Bummer they cut the One Day More Montage at the moment he comes in.
@LlamaLlama Dude(ette). I am all about Enjolras. EPONINE, HE'S A WAY BETTER MATCH FOR YOU THAN WISHY-WASHY MARIUS!
@LlamaLlama: The guy playing Enjolras is HAWT
@SuperGogo I was going to say "anyone besides Marius is a better match for just about anyone", but then I remembered that Cosette also has no personality, so the two of them are actually perfect for each other. (NOT a Marius fan)
Is hear an OK place to confess that I sing dinner songs to the cat? There's a rotation; most are hair-bands but one is:
Do you see the Peaches eat,
Eating the food out of her dish?
It is a can a Fancy Feast
Made out of chicken, cheese, and fish!
@Hellcat Oh my goodness, I mean "here." Ick.
@Hellcat I sing "Kill the Fishy" to the tune of Wagner's "Ride of the Valkyries" when Pounce plays with her fishing pole toy.
I think you win.
@lobsterhug I could make an album with all the songs, really--except that only the lyrics are my own; the rest is all stolen! There's a Nelly one and an Ace Frehley and one to that Sweet Disposition song that was all over the place for a while and a Hall & Oates...
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Guys, I am really looking forward to this, but WHY IS THE SINGING SO BAD?!?! I am not convinced that this recording live from the sets gambit has paid off. Is it too late to get Marni Nixin to dub over Amanda Seyfried?
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