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Q&A With a Nutritionist, Part One: Eat

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Sarah Starpoli is an accordionist, boxing enthusiast, and sometime nutrition counselor, as well as a pleasure to email with.

Sarah! Thank you so much for fielding my questions. To start: is there something women commonly do wrong in regard to their eating habits?

Aside from an unfortunate predilection toward weird fad diets, women seem to like to NOT eat in order to lose weight. I've been around so many hungry brides in recent years, and I too have fallen into the trap of not eating (though not for bridal reasons, alas). The problem is that you do see some results for a minute or two, but you become a horrible bitch and then your body freaks out and thinks you're actually trying to starve it. It kicks into survival mode and holds on desperately to the nourishing fat that you're so desperately thinking you need to get rid of. I still fall into the starvation trap sometimes, but it's better say "DON'T EAT CRAP" rather than "DON'T EAT." 

Sometimes I worry that in trying to eat healthy — mostly plants, almost no meat, no processed food — I'm also kind of messing myself up. Those processed foods were fortified with stuff, vitamins & minerals, etc., and maybe I'm missing them?

You're not messing yourself up by not eating processed foods, I promise you that. If you're having issues, or are not feeling well or robust, it's certainly because you aren't eating *enough* of the right things. Maybe you need more leafy greens, more actual whole grains (not Cheerios "with whole grain!" ... that stuff started as a whole grain and was pulverized to become a processed food), more protein!

A story I like to tell is about when I decided to be a vegetarian many years ago. I ended up with seriously the worst skin I had ever possibly had, but I was regularly shoveling vegetables into my body (fresh, multi-colored, locally grown ones, not pizza). Ultimately, nine years after going vegetarian, a plate of fried chicken brought me back to the land of meat. Within three months, my skin totally cleared up. What? My takeaway from that was *not* that vegetarianism was bad, but that I wasn't figuring out the right ways to get protein into my body. All human bodies do not have the same needs. When I lose all coping mechanisms, I usually need protein. Others need some sugar, or some salt. Sugar makes me mean, but makes my best friend a sweetheart. I think the best thing anyone can do for themselves is figure out what foods truly work best for them and learn how to make them central to their eating habits.

What's your favorite food?

Singularly? Broccoli. I eat it for every meal some days, and it makes me feel an inner joy. This is something that makes me annoying.

Last meal style?  Pumpkin curry from a restaurant that closed in San Francisco. It's comfort food. This is something that makes me more normal.

Is my tupperware ruining my life?

No. It means you're bringing your lunch to work, which is making your life a thousand times better. 

What's your healthy-eating history been like? And tell me about how you started boxing!

I WANT TO ANSWER THIS, BUT I HAVE TO GO TO A PARTY. Will I get more of a chance?!?!?

Haha. "I want to answer this but I have to go to a party" is probably the best sentence of the week. Let's continue this in part two tomorrow-ish!

Update: Part Two.

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christonacracker

I read this while eating a giant frosted cinnamon roll so my metabolism is aware I am not starving.

redheaded&crazy

@christonacracker I had a cookie and half a cheese bagel with butter for breakfast.

Also, I have a cheese bagel with butter every morning for breakfast.

Doctor I work with: you can eat whatever you want at breakfast because you work it off during the day
Me: OKAY~

Pygmalion

@redheaded&crazie It's hard for me to feel guilty when I eat a bagel (extra toasted sesame with scallion cream cheese and tomato) in the morning because it is SO delicious and I can almost hear my stomach sighing with happiness. Starches are a morning must.

Hellcat

@redheaded&crazie CHEESE BAGEL! Describe this to me--is the cheese part of the bagel itself, or do you mean cheese in on the bagel? All I know is I want it.

Alli525

@Pygmalion The best thing about bagels for breakfast is that it doesn't matter how early you have it, you will NOT be hungry again until at least 1pm... at which point you will be a little hungry maybe, so you can fill up on just veggies. That's my weight-loss plan and I'm sticking to it.

superfluous consonants

@Hellcat the ones i've seen (immediately before i eat them) have a crust of cheese melted on top. they are glorious, though everything is clearly by far the best.

Hellcat

@superfluous consonants OOOOH! Yes, I want that.

I'm normally not much for the sweet things, but I have me a pistachio muffin right now that's pretty good, if a sort of odd shade of green.

khaleesi

@superfluous consonants That sounds like the most delicious thing ever! I remember when I first came across a french toast bagel, I was like whaaaat?? So good. I have a toasted raisin bagel with some butter about three times a week and would never give it up.

fondue with cheddar

@christonacracker I read this while eating pepperoni pizza. But it's Lean Cusine. I eat the same thing* every day at work because I hate having a fridge full of things I'm not in the mood for, but I'm always in the mood for pizza. At least this way I'm never disappointed.

*Not exactly. Sometimes I eat four cheese!

hahahaha, ja.

@fondue with cheddar: Pizza fist-bump. I, too, am always in the mood for pizza. If I need vegetables, I throw some peppers on that. More protein, extra cheese. Pizza is the perfect vehicle for a balanced diet.

Hellcat

@hahahaha, ja. Pizza with roasted red peppers and feta! Surely that must be a health bonanza, right?

fondue with cheddar

@Hellcat Roasted red peppers and feta sounds great! I can't eat RRPs without them repeating on me, though. I love them while I eat them but then I'm grossed out by them for the rest of the day.

@hahahaha, ja. Not for me. I'm allergic to (or don't like or both) all the veggies people put on pizza. I could eat pizza with spinach on it but wilty, greasy spinach sounds gross.

Maybe I should just feed myself through a tube.

hahahaha, ja.

@fondue with cheddar: I've had good luck with spinach and feta pizzas (where the feta replaces the mozzarella). The lack of other cheese helps keep the spinach from getting too greasy, although sadly it'll still be wilty.

Hellcat

@hahahaha, ja. We have something around here (Jersey)--though maybe it's common everywhere; I don't know--called a "salad pizza." It's basically a normal pizza with a salad dumped on top after it's cooked. While I like a nice salad and love pizza, I simply cannot get behind this.

fondue with cheddar

@hahahaha, ja. FETA. Hm...that's an idea. Maybe I'll try that sometime.

@Hellcat Weeeeeird. Why have I never heard of this? Where do you live? I'm down south near Philly.

Hellcat

@fondue with cheddar Northeast -- Morris County. Do you have ziti pizza down there or, better yet, rigatoni with vodka sauce! Oooh, it's good stuff!

fondue with cheddar

@Hellcat My last boyfriend was from Morris County! Butler, specifically.

It's not something I'd ever order, but I'm pretty sure we've got ziti pizza. Pasta with vodka sauce, fuck yeah!

Hellcat

@fondue with cheddar Haha! That's where I just moved! I bought a condo!

fondue with cheddar

@Hellcat NO WAY. Congratulations!

Hellcat

@fondue with cheddar Thanks--it's nice there! But I seem to have "plateaued" in my organizing and unpacking, per my very astute BF (he was not supposed to notice that... even though it's totally true). It's a little... rural for my tastes but the place is nicer than the others I looked at in my price range (which wasn't all that rangey).

fondue with cheddar

@Hellcat I always plateau in my unpacking. I've been in my place for a year and I haven't unpacked everything.

Rural? Are we talking about the same Butler? I thought it was pretty suburby.

Hellcat

@fondue with cheddar I guess it is is normal-suburby, more or less, and it's got basically all the same stuff on the highway that has been everywhere else in Jersey that I've lived. But it's a bit more trees and grass and rivers and spread out and closer in proximity to more remote areas. I think I just got used to living in more-crowded areas!

fondue with cheddar

@Hellcat Yeah, I guess it is kind of spread out. I never really explored much other than where his parents lived and the stores nearby, and they lived right off a major highway. But at least trees and grass and rivers are pretty! And you're not far away from places with more Stuff. Good luck in your new home!

Hellcat

@fondue with cheddar Thank you! I'm just trying to figure out where to draw the line between "things I would have done differently if I'd built the house, but they're generally OK as is" and "things that are perfectly normal and not completely self-indulgent for me to change." For instance, wanting (and knowing that I will eventually get) new carpet is OK; deciding tomorrow to move everything into one room and order new carpet is probably a silly thing to do right now. As is changing perfectly good doorhandles because they're brass-colored when I prefer brushed chrome.

fondue with cheddar

@Hellcat I hear you. The place I moved into has a lot of things I would like to change, too. It's an old house, which poses more of a challenge because a lot of things are weird sizes, and if you get something too modern it doesn't look right. The worst thing is the doorknobs. They're glass, which look pretty, but they're the cheap ones that sometimes stick or come loose, and the glass part falls off sometimes.

Anyway, if you make a list of those things and prioritize them, you'll have a plan and it might be easier to put up with the things that annoy you. And you can do them little by little.

Hellcat

@fondue with cheddar Yeah, I'm all about the lists over here. Sometimes I get carried away and need to remind myself of the 30-year mortgage (yikes!), which means there's lots of time--I don't have to start a project and forsake all else until that project is done (tough that's my usual M.O.).

I think I will allow myself to get some wall art up ASAP though; I was waiting until I knew 100% that I had everything where I wanted it before I did that... but I don't think that certainty will ever arrive. And I am eager to start on my horror-movie-themed bathroom! Oooh!

Your house sounds pretty fabulous. Does it also have odd-shaped little corner closets and built-in shelves? I ask because my grandparents house had those glass doorknobs and lots of other cool stuff (which does not include the requisite mid-197ss Revolutionary War-themed wallpaper in the guest bedroom. Ugh).

fondue with cheddar

@Hellcat I do the same thing with wall art. I still haven't put anything up because the place doesn't feel "done", and the walls are plaster so hanging things is so much more of a pain in the ass.

The house (which is about 100 years old) is fabulous in some ways but not fabulous in others. There is a serious dearth of closets. Zero closets downstairs. Two okay-sized closets in the master bedroom but none in the middle bedroom. The back bedroom has a tiny closet that is half the depth of a normal closet because they borrowed space from it to build shelves in the bathroom on the other side. You have to turn the hangers at an angle, otherwise the closet door doesn't close!

There are cool things like nice woodwork all over the place (I assume it's nice because they PAINTED IT ALL WHITE when the put it up for sale), but also rounded archways, hardwood floors, high ceilings, and tall windows. The bones are good, it just needs a lot of cosmetic work.

Oh, and there are plumbing issues because they used to make pipes out of CLAY, which means tree roots grow into them and create backups. UGH.

YOU MUST POST PICTURES OF YOUR HORROR-MOVIE-THEMED BATHROOM. That's going to be the coolest thing.

jhonsons

is amazing!!!!!!!!@j

melis

This is probably Nutrition 101 but what is the difference between a nutritionist and a dietitian??? Do they have separate powers?

highjump

@melis If my experience with my aunt is any indication registered dietitians are licensed to be between 15% and 30% more smug about food choices than nutritionists, based on their performance on standardized tests.

I am going to eat three pieces of pie at Thanksgiving with my eyebrows arched in such a way that will DARE her to say anything.

meganmaria

@melis That's a really good question. I'd like to know as well.

anachronistique

@melis My possibly flawed understanding: Dietitians have to take a program of study, do an internship, and pass an exam. "Nutritionist" is an umbrella term that can include people who did all their schooling but couldn't get an internship all the way to people who think you should eat paint chips to balance your humors.

straw hat

@anachronistique I think you are right! Except in some states/provinces there are also laws that restrict the use of the "nutritionist" title (where I'm from the job definition is pretty much the same). Where there aren't, anyone can call themselves a nutritionnist.
Not confusing at all!

NeverOddOrEven

@melis
If my appointment last week with a nutritionist was any indication, they're the ones who are indifferent, ineffectual, and tell you a bunch of rote crap you already know, then mention weight loss when you never brought it up as a concern.
Worst way to spend an afternoon ever.

smidge

@anachronistique this makes me feel better, because a friend recently posted an anti-vaccine blog post on my facebook wall that was written by a nutritionist--and I was like, huh?

smidge

@smidge Not to diss all nutritionists. I'm sure this nutritionist is very good at her job.

mayflour

@melis I'm a registered dietitian. We basically have certain requirements that we needed to meet (degree, internship, passing a test). Nutritionists don't have to meet any requirements. Most states have laws that prevent people from practicing nutrition therapy without being registered.

TARDIStime

@mayflour This is really helpful - I recently decided I really wanted to become a nutritionist, but now I see I actually want to become a dietitian.

How did you get your start? I've done extensive research and there appears to be next to no vocational education out there for aspiring dietitians out here in Aus.

highjump

I think the best thing anyone can do for themselves is figure out what foods truly work best for them and learn how to make them central to their eating habits.

I am well into my third decade on this earth, eating widely, and I still don't know what exactly 'truly works best' for me. When I feel good/crappy/average I can never trace it back to one food, or even be sure it is tied to food at all! Do I have to run some kind of elimination diet experiment?

cmonster

@highjump I was going to say! I always see these general statements. Is there at least, a basic rulebook for how to figure out what works best for individuals?

Liiiike, athletes should make sure they get this thing, people who break out suddenly after moving to another city and completely changing a diet (weird hypothetical that is certainly not me) should eat those things, people who need more Vitamin D because this city is DUMB (also not me) should do this.

cuminafterall

@highjump I think that's totally normal. It takes an annoyingly large amount of experimenting to figure out what food makes me feel good/bad, and sometimes it's not about the food itself at all. For instance, I cramp up something horrible if I ingest anything too early in the morning, even if it's a glass of water. So now I eat breakfast at 11, lunch at 3 and dinner at 7.

So you figure something out like that, and enjoy comfort for a while, and then something new happens! Now grains/bready things are causing me problems in large doses (it's not a gluten thing, happens with rice, too). So frustrating.

Pygmalion

@highjump I agree! I know that pounds of melted cheese make me feel gross and sluggish but that's kind of a no-brainer. Sometimes I can't even tell whether I'm hungry or just "could eat something" (or feel bored or sad, etc.) And I love all food too much to diet.

teaandcakeordeath

@highjump
I think if you eat anything and within an hour you feel something is off, note what you ate and then see if it happens again the next time you eat that thing. I wish I could say that in a more sciency way. Alternatively, you might just not be that reactive to stuff?

PheasantRevolt

@highjump I realise not everyone has this experience but my life was changed by a crazy yoga lady. While I was working and my hayfever hit (seriously, it went from nothing to atchoo in about 3 hrs) she suggested I stop eating wheat. I thought it was total BS but weighed the pros and cons and knew that even if it didn't work I'd already be miserable from the sneezing/wheezing/snotting all summer so maybe no bread would be OK. Long story short, I stopped eating wheat, I stopped sneezing - I was happy. I did try re-introducing wheat later (pasta! bread! cakes!) and it was truly unpleasant, gas, return of the eczema, massive bloated belly.

So, keep your eyed for a crazy yoga woman glistening with sweat of a recent bikram workout? Or just approach it sensibly, with the help of a dietician, and try exclusion diets. Allergies are weird things, often you don't realise how much they effect you.

smidge

@highjump I have this problem too, but I also know that whenever I eat a steak I feel mighty. So, occasional red meat for me!

kate.m

@highjump - I think most people have generally healthy digestive systems, and can eat a huge variety of food and not have any significant negative effects. That's how humans have stayed on this planet for so long... My tactic is just to enjoy all the delicious food that I enjoy, and try to be sympathetic to people who can't eat everything, poor babies.

sintaxis

@highjump Did your hypothetical situation that most certainly was not you involve moving to the pacific northwest? because I have a, uh, friend who also moved to a new city and suddenly started breaking out and my friend also has a distinct lack of vitamin D...

Sassafrass

@PheasantRevolt I too have experienced this phenomenon! I have horrible, horrible allergies and happen to live in a place with a year-round growing season, so yeah I sneeze A LOT. While trying out a whole-foods plant based diet I inadvertently eliminated wheat as most bread products are processed and therefore weren't part of my list. After about six weeks I gave in and ate a ton of delicious baked goods at a friends house warming party, the result was a massive break-out of hives. Clue #1. Clue #2 came when I once again this year I again went back to the whole-foods plant based diet, and paid closer attention to the affect on my allergies. It is drastic! Not eating wheat combined with big doses of healthy veggies definitely makes my allergies better. I still have to take an over the counter anti-histamine, but at least it seems to work and I have some relief.

sintaxis

@cmonster My response was to you, actually!

MilesofMountains

@highjump I am in no way an expert, but I think it's useful for people to try eliminating common "problem" foods from their diet at least once. Like, maybe go vegetarian for two weeks, add meat back, then maybe try taking dairy out etc. I figure two weeks is a short enough time you're not going to screw your body up if it really needs meat, but if you're like me you'll realize that those randomly occurring heavy-stomach feelings are actually from wheat and you can avoid wheat-heavy meals.

fondue with cheddar

@MilesofMountains I suspect I might have issues with wheat (I have that heavy-stomach feeling fairly often) but I'm allergic to so many things I'm afraid to cut anything else out! :(

cmonster

@sintaxis Bah, no, the east coast! But um, does your friend know what to DO about these problems?

sintaxis

@cmonster No. I- er, she- was hoping you'd know! :(

up cubed

@MilesofMountains Yea, but eliminating carby things like bread made me grouchy for the first 2 weeks, so that might not be enough time to start realizing the benefits of the change.
However, elimiating things that cause an allergic reaction (like hives) would probably bring more immediate relief than something that is just causing inflammation/irritation.

TARDIStime

@highjump
The Food Detective: http://www.food-detective.com.au/

It's an expensive kit, but pretty impressive.

sarah girl

I have a nutrition question: How the hell can I actually make myself feel full from eating healthy foods? It seems like fruits/vegetables stay in my stomach for approximately a minute, and then I'm hungry again.

aphrabean

@Sarah H. I can only speak for myself, but beans + whole grains keep me going for ages. Also, beans are boring, right? Not if you branch out into the world of heirloom beans! Tepary, rio zape, anasazi are three of my favorites. Bonus, teparies (sp?) take less time to cook and are very, very high in protein.

meganmaria

@Sarah H. I get the same way. HUGE salad, starving 15 minutes later. I just eat a lot of fruits & veggies more often during the day. Protein helps me, too.

hahahaha, ja.

@Sarah H.: IANAN, but I second/third what people have said about beans and protein. I make a vat full of chili stuffed with beans and ground beef and pork (ALLLL THE ITALIAN SAUSAGES), and eat it slowly over the next few weeks. I've also found that a small bowl of (full-fat greek) yogurt or cottage cheese will tide me over better than, say, a handful of crackers or an apple. And whenever I eat a salad, I make sure I have a bunch of toasted nuts in there.

I love talking about food :D

Judith Slutler

@Sarah H. Sounds like you need more proteins and maybe larger portion sizes? A lot of vegetables aren't calorically dense at all. Try tracking your eating to see if you're hitting those 2000ish calories a day.

SarahP

@Sarah H. I'm the same way! I solve this by not eating them by themselves. Fruit is part of a breakfast or snack for me, not the whole breakfast or snack itself. Similarly, the only way I can do a salad for lunch is if there is at least as much non-vegetalble content on top/bottom/the side. I need proteins and (whole) grains to fill me up, so I generally try to mix the things together. (Pasta salad with loads of chopped kale in it, for instance, is going to make me fuller and happier than a salad twice as big.)

meganmaria

@hahahaha, ja. Apples are the worst for me. I love, love, love them, but they make me hungrier faster than anything else in the world. Softball size apples = ravenous me.

hahahaha, ja.

@meganmaria: It sucks especially because all the nutrition tips say "eat an apple whenever you're hungry!" And I'm actually allergic to apples, so I substitute 'orange' for 'apple,' and then half an hour later I've eaten a bushel full of oranges and have the worst acid reflux everrr.

tea sonata

@meganmaria I thought that was just me! Apples are an Anti-Food.

sarahf

@Sarah H. I have a hard time with this too, fellow Sarah. One thing I've tried that makes me feel a bit more full is doing one pot meals where there is a protein and a carb in there too (stew/casserole style), so I'm still eating veg but I feel fuller and not wanting to eat again an hour later. A lady cannot survive on salad alone! (Whilst laughing, of course)

I've also found that when I exercise it tends to suppress my appetite more, but one of my biggest struggles is keeping a consistent routine so that varies WILDLY. Also, does anyone else find themselves eating more once it gets colder? All preparing for hibernation-like?

Bittersweet

@meganmaria Try the apples with a bit of peanut butter (or other nut butter). Or with a couple of slices of cheese. That way you get a bit of protein, which helps make you feel fuller (more full?), and the combos are wicked tasty.

werewolfbarmitzvah

@Sarah H. Zero in on the fattier or starchier fruits and vegetables, and eat those in addition to the lighter ones. Avocados, sweet potatoes, bananas, etc. Also, beans. And nuts! And maybe sauteeing your less-caloric vegetables in oil (good oil!) will help make them more filling?

Signed, a nutrition-obsessed healthy eater who never eats salad.

entangled

@sarahf I sometimes eat more when it gets colder, though less so now that I live in a place with mild winters. Exercise definitely does not suppress my appetite, though, except for during the period of time when I'm actually exercising. Once my body cools off, it is like FOOD TIME EAT ALL THE FOOD NOW PLZ.

I think that what makes people feel full/sustains that fullness can vary for different people, but pretty much nobody is satisfied with fruits and vegetables alone. It's just not enough calories/energy for anything more than a stop-gap snack. I find that I need a blend of veggies/starch/protein/fat at every meal or it doesn't work for me, though I have friends who are fine with a protein/fat combination.

There's also the matter of nutritional needs. Sure, some restaurants/packaging go for enormous portions, but I also think that among people who actually read up on nutrition/try to eat healthy, there is often an underestimating of how much food we need to eat. Again, it's going to take experimenting. Sometimes serving yourself a giant portion and only eating until you feel satisfied. Sometimes eating a little less and seeing if you feel full eventually. Experiment, and listen to your body.

Lastly, the most important component of listening to your body is ignoring what people tell you you SHOULD eat. Sure, fruits/veggies/unprocessed foods. That's great. but ignore all the numbers and diet advice and recommendation - they're all noise that block the body's natural messages.

Lisa Frank

@Sarah H. Faaattt. Avocados, full-fat dairy and olive oil. If I don't have enough fat in a given meal, I don't feel full even after just finishing. Plus fat makes things taste yummy.

Lily Rowan

@Lisa Frank FAAAAAAT. Keeps you satiated!

harebell

@Sarah H.
put (more) olive oil on your vegetables! it will help you digest the nutrients in them too -- your body needs a little bit of fat to help process most veggies.

meganmaria

@Bittersweet And who would turn down an opportunity to eat cheese? Not me, that's for sure. I'll even make a vending machine fruit and cheese plate, in a pinch: Fruit snacks or gummies and Cheezits.

Shh... don't tell the dietician.

NeverOddOrEven

@Sarah H.
I've always felt this way and no one ever believes me!
Snacking on fresh fruit or crudites gives me a weird belly feeling that just makes me 2x hungrier than I was within an hour. Fiber my ass.
Salads don't work the same way for me though, but they tend to also be full of meat/cheese/nuts/grains etc.

kate.m

@Sarah H. - Somebody smart once told me to try to get all four "macronutrients" in every meal or snack (protein, fiber, carbohydrates, fat). This has worked well for me. For example, an apple and a string cheese is a way more satisfying snack than the apple alone.

sarah girl

@all Thanks for all the suggestions! I will definitely start combining the fruits/veggies with other things, especially fats. Mmmmm, fats.

up cubed

@Sarah H. What 200 calories looks like:http://www.wisegeek.com/what-does-200-calories-look-like.htm
A big plate of broccoli = a dollop of peanut butter.

entangled

@upupandaway Also, 200 calories is more of a snack (maybe a medium-largish snack) than a meal and won't really keep most adults full for very long anyway. Those pictures are interesting (though I'm not really a calorie-based eater in the least), but some of them seem to lack a frame of reference.

up cubed

@entangled I was hoping to provide some context about why people might feel like fruits/vegetables weren't very filling (they are not very calorically dense). Of course, f/v do contain fiber, which contributes to a "full" feeling.
The measurements for the size of the plate and bowl are provided at the bottom of the page, but the photos do lack an internal frame of reference.

chrysopoeia

Starvation mode has been pretty much debunked, unless you are literally, chronically starving.

This is why I'm always disappointed when I see a nutritionist. Ultimately, I've done more reading than they have. Next she'll say the eggs I'm eating are raising my cholesterol.

Super Nintendo Chalmers

@chrysopoeia Ugh. Tell me about it. I go to a personal trainer 3x a week and he's always on me like: eat less food, eat more food, don't eat after 8pm, and I'm like: dude. Stop.

mangosara

@chrysopoeia It is true that restricting food intake doesn't work in the long term, though! It actually says so in your link--it just takes 2-3 weeks. You might not call it "starvation mode," but your metabolism does adapt and slow.

chrysopoeia

@mangosara That's why I said "unless you are literally, chronically starving."

This is my new username

@chrysopoeia Right, but she seems to be actually talking about restrictive diets where people basically are chronically starving because they have restricted their caloric intake, not skipping one meal.

entangled

@chrysopoeia but I feel like intentionally chronically starving oneself is pretty common, though.

MilesofMountains

@chrysopoeia Chronic starvation IS what a diet is, though, so it sounds like Sarah was giving good info, though.

H.E. Ladypants

@This is my new username Yeah, I've never heard of "starvation mode" being a meal or two but meaning a chronic under-eating of calories. (I think less than 1250 a day is the generalized number, although, of course, it varies by individual.)

This is something a lot of people do!

Ellie

I skip meals and otherwise "don't eat" to lose weight all the time and it really does work. Calories in, calories out. I seriously think this "you'll slow your metabolism" stuff is BS. If it does have an effect, I think it is offset by the actual calories you're not eating.

tea sonata

So there's a saying, "your body takes 20 minutes to know it's full".
Admittedly, I did find this on Tumblr, but considering I could happily eat an entire farms worth of produce and my stomach wouldn't notice, can I call bullshit on this one, or...?

frigwiggin

@tea sonata I heard this too, probably somewhere similar to tumblr, but I just try to use it as a reminder to eat more slowly. I tend to wolf things without thinking about it, so I try to think about it and chew slowly and carefully, because it does seem like when I do that I don't tend to get that "ahhhhh I overate" feeling a few minutes later.

frigwiggin

Wait, is that picture of wee baskets of cherries or normal-sized baskets of plums with stems? It's making my brain wobbly for some reason.

I'm going to pretend that the garlic butter noodles I cooked last night to bring for lunch today are healthy, because they're ~vegetarian~. Oh, except maybe for the oyster sauce. At least there's shredded carrot and bell pepper in them!

tea sonata

@frigwiggin I'm voting +1 for cherries.

In a similar vein, my friends logic is "carrot cake is one of my 5-a-day because it has carrot in it. Duh." Health... it's everywhere.

hahahaha, ja.

@tea sonata: Ha! Your friend sounds like a person after my own heart. I've been known to justify foods allll over the place. French fries are healthy because they are made of potatoes which grow in the ground just like vegetables. A burger is healthy because that meat came from a cow that eats grass which grows in the ground just like vegetables, and the bun is made of grain which grows in the ground. JUST LIKE VEGETABLES.

Megasus

@hahahaha, ja. I justify sweet potato fries in this way, because they have more nutrients than plain potatoes and are a bright colour veggie which is good for you.

tea sonata

@hahahaha, ja. Vodka is made from potatoes. Health.
Oaty biscuits = oats = health. Cider - apples, Health.
And then, I see this...
http://tvthrong.co.uk/files/u1670/nigellagillian.jpg
So I must be doing something right.

Megasus

@hahahaha, ja. I justify sweet potato fries in this way, because they have more nutrients than plain potatoes and are a bright colour veggie which is good for you.

Apocalypstick

@tea sonata Cake has eggs in it, you cannot get more basic than eggs. Health.
Better to eat tomato sauce on a pizza than no tomatoes at all. Health.
That biscuit has dried fruit in, it's fruit and they sell dried things in health food shops so dried must be even better than normal. Health.

tea sonata

@Apocalypstick Truth. And if any ingredients are organic, Level Up good sir/madame!

Megasus

The only part of this I retained was pumpkin curry. Mmmmm pumpkin curry.
P.S. cookies were involved in my breakfast this morning b/c I don't have a lot of food and no money to buy any.

Reginal T. Squirge

I think I just realized the most depressing thing in the world is to have your favorite food be a specific dish from a restaurant that has closed.

Megasus

@Reginal T. Squirge Yeah, one of my favourite dishes IS from a restaurant that is closed, in a city I don't live in anymore, and it makes me really sad sometimes.

TARDIStime

@Reginal T. Squirge I feel you. Thai Fish Cakes at Ramsgate Beach, I miss you so! Also you dipping sauce!

Slutface

Just put an egg on top of everything and you'll be good to go.

terrific

I just can't plan ahead! People always say to eat beans and whole grains but HOW!?!??!?! I want a site that has healthy meal plans for impoverished twenty-somethings that are cheap to buy.

I get so excited about eating healthy but then when it comes to actually planning it out it's like I run into a brick wall and then I eat pasta.

Lily Rowan

@terrific OK, here's one: Open a can of black beans, open a can of corn, open a jar of salsa. Mix. Eat. Delicious black bean salad! Of course, you can make it with Ingredients, but the easiest/cheapest way is also delicious.

celeec4@twitter

@terrific I hear you, impoverished and/or time-strapped 20-somethings. Sometimes, pasta is just so easy...ok, make that all the time. X_X

frigwiggin

@terrific This is also a painfully delicious way to eat beans. Make with brown rice for extra-whatevers. (I haven't because I have an extreme weakness for jasmine rice.)

meganmaria

@terrific I'm not impoverished, but I've been seriously flirting with the idea of having my groceries delivered to my house, because then it would be easier for me to write down my meals, stick to them, and whatever I'd spend for delivery costs would be less than the stupid impulse purchases I make when I go to the store. Just ask the two pints of Hagen Daaz Peppermint Bark ice cream I bought last night.

districter

@terrific OK no whole grains but I made a giant batch of this this weekend and it is so good.

http://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/2011/01/eat-for-eight-bucks-black-bean-and-sweet-potato-chili-recipe.html

Judith Slutler

@terrific I basically just buy lentils and vegetables and throw them together in a pot with lots of garlic and spices, then have eggs or tofu and brown rice with that. It's pretty good and easy!

This is my new username

@terrific Eat these! http://budgetbytes.blogspot.ca/2012/04/southwest-salad-with-taco-ranch.html

Yummy and easy and you can assemble and freeze them for days when you are too lazy cook.

Lily Rowan

@districter Ooh, I'm going to do that with the sweet potatoes currently sitting in my kitchen.

This is my new username

@This is my new username Ugggghh that was not the right link (although I ate that salad for dinner last night and it was also good) and my computer is useless and won't let me edit. I meant these:

http://budgetbytes.blogspot.ca/2012/02/hearty-black-bean-quesadillas-661.html

PomPom

@terrific This is my favorite way to eat black beans. It's cheap and easy and, except for the slaw, you can have the ingredients sitting in your fridge for a while so minimal planning is required. http://smittenkitchen.com/blog/2009/02/crispy-black-bean-tacos-with-feta-and-slaw/

planforamiracle

@celeec4@twitter pasta can be healthy! one of my favourite weeknight dinners is pasta with sauteed greens (rapini/kale/broccoli as you like) with garlic and chickpeas. throw it all in a pan, cook until cooked. put some parmesan and/or lemon juice on the top if you're into that. I used to make this with whole-wheat penne but let's not get crazy.

And on the planning ahead with beans and whole grains.. I cook them from dried (SOCHEAP) and freeze them in small portions, like cream-cheese-container-sized. This works for things like chick peas, kidney beans, dark green lentils (Puy are my fave, they don't fall apart so are good or salads), barley, quinoa, farro... then mix & match them with chopped veggies and various salad dressings. this is my go-to work lunch.
A good website I like for healthy, easy, cheap, and cheerful cooking is a blog called Everybody Likes Sandwiches. (misleading name; there are barely any sandwiches on her whole site.)

tl;dr = basically I consider almost anything I cook at home to be healthy.

Bus Driver Stu Benedict

@meganmaria I know this for a fact to be true! You can follow your exact total while you're shopping! You can buy all the canned food ever and only have to haul it from the front door to the cupboard! You can fill your freezer with so many frozen vegetables so that there's no room for ice cream! You don't even have to see ice cream and cookies if you don't click on those categories!

Loose fresh vegetables are a problem though. Where I shop (Vons/Safeway) they're mostly priced higher, and roundish ones individually instead of by the pound. Bagged carrots, potatoes and citrus are no problem. I go out and get most dairy and other perishables myself, since for me it's mainly a monthly thing for bulky, heavy staples.

My store saves my previous shopping lists, but I still check to see if another brand is on special (like Barilla pasta for $.99/lb!). They're pretty good about ingredient info and price per lb/oz/etc (as in: not mixing pounds and ounces in the same category). They've got 7-day delivery and if you know you're going to be home you can pick a 4-hour window for $2! Also: beer and wine! (Disclaimer: your state/store may not be as cool as mine)

So yes, in summary, I am eating a lot healthier because of it and spending less (not a super whole lot, but noticeable at the end of the month).

KeLynn

@terrific - Start the week by making a crap ton of brown rice/quinoa and beans. Then just put beans over the rice and add veggies and BAM, a meal.

ThatWench

@terrific I'm with @meganmaria, in that I'm planning to experiment with having my groceries delivered rather than grocery-shopped-for, and seeing if it will help. If I already have the groceries, I can't resent the cooking/cleaning steps as much on weeknights, right?

Beans/whole grains are the easiest things to eat on the super-cheap and to buy super-far-in-advance, since dried legumes/grains keep forever, and so do cans of beans. My magical discovery was that for any sort of "bean stew-type object", the key ingredient to awesome was a can of chipotle peppers in adobo sauce. Obviously, these assume you are making a (canned) tomato-oriented-type-stew, but most of them are, right?

My boy Mark Bittman would also be glad to talk your ear off about meals built around beans and whole grains that can be made relatively easily. His point is to make a big pot of one of each and then use them in other flavor-combos through the week.

entangled

@terrific Beans and greens are pretty easy, too. sautee some garlic. add some greens (if you are feeling lazy like I usually am, get the pre-washed ones). If you have other veggies lying around, add them first. Once the greens wilt, add a can of beans. Add a can of diced tomatoes. Add some spices. Can be eaten over grains (quinoa takes 15 minutes to cook), with bread, etc. Last time, I drizzled with a little extra olive oil and just ate it out of a bowl.

Now if I can get my husband to eat like this, too, life would be so much easier and cheaper.

meganmaria

@Bus Driver Stu Benedict Awesome! I'm looking into Safeway for most of our primary goods, but there's also a service called SPUD that does local, organic, sustainable products that delivers to our area once a week and I'm looking into that for the rest of our stuff or even our primary stuff, because saving me time and money and supporting our local economy seems like a super win.

I've also been talking to one of my friends who is really great at planning meals for a week or more at a time and she's into doing one day of cooking whether it's a few casseroles or just a giant thing of brown rice, then portioning it out and freezing it. Between that kind of organization and not going to the store every other day, I think I can have time to do actual things I actually like the rest of the week.

Blushingflwr

@meganmaria I have three jobs, and I get my groceries delivered. Fewer impulse purchases, and it means I actually have groceries. So even though the grocery bill is high, it's still cheaper in the long run than eating out for lunch every day (if less delicious).
The one downside is that if you are trying to eat a lot of fresh produce you a) don't get to pick out your own b) may end up buying more than you can eat. The minimum order for delivery by Peapod (which works with Giant) is $60, which is like 2 weeks worth of food for me, depending on what I order.

par_parenthese

@entangled Beans and greens!! Kale + cannelini beans + garlic,rosemary,lemon,redpepperflakes + crusty whole-grain bread + parmigiano + a fried egg = THE MOST PERFECT DINNER EVERRRRRRR

yourpretendfriend

@terrific
Quinoaaaaaa. It's super easy and cheap in bulk and you can mix it with anything and it's like the healthiest thing in the world. It's a complete protein, so it's one of the most protein rich foods you can eat, and it has iron, tons of fiber, and other awesome stuff. I make a big batch and eat it for the week, I like making it with a can of garbanzo beans that are roasted in olive oil and spices and maybe some veggies. You can also make it like oatmeal for breakfast! But rinse it first to get the coating off. End vegan quinoa rant.

sandwiches

@terrific brown rice + lentils + cashews! So good, so good. Probably incredibly delicious with a blob of hummus, or maybe with some crumbly feta and basil/mint, or a nice creamy veg korma.. Mm.

KatnotCat

@terrific Whole grain pasta+sauteed veggies + can of white beans. Magic!

baked bean

@terrific I struggle with this too. I go through phases of being really good and really bad.

Quesadillas are a favorite of mine, like someone mentioned above. I like bean quesadillas with a shit ton of salsa, because that's vegetables. It takes such little time to make, and you can add more ingredients if you're feeling ambitious and have them.
I get black beans or pinto beans and blend them up myself and then freeze in freezer bags. I smush them down flat in the bag so it's like a sheet of beans when they freeze. Then you break off how much you need. I don't like to chew my beans I like them kind of "refried" but without all the lard. You can add some olive oil or other oil if you want them thinner.

I also enjoy mushroom quesadillas, because you can fry some thin-sliced mushrooms with chili powder/garlic/cumin/salt/pepper/whatever else pretty quickly.

I'm bad so I do white tortillas because they are like $1.50 instead of $4 for whole grain, but yeah, when I'm rich...

You could also totes eat your quesadilla with the bean/corn/tomato salad mentioned above.

I also eat a LOT of soup. Easy peasy way to eat veggies. You can cook that shit on the stovetop or in the crock pot. It freezes well as long as there are no noodles or white rice. I find that brown rice works great in soup because it needs 40 mins to cook anyway and you usually cook soup for a while, and it holds up better when leftover because it doesn't turn to mush. Plus more filling. WIN WIN WIN!

baked bean

@terrific Oh also, last week I made up a rad skillet dish with sweet potatoes, onions, peppers, spices, and a wee bit of leftover lean sausage (PORK omg). It was sooooooooo good. Favorite way to eat sweet potatoes now.
You could totes sub sausage for veggie sausage, chicken sausage, bacon... I endorse small amounts of fat.
I also feel like corn would be a great add-in. Or beans.

Derevkova

But I have no way of appetite regulation. It doesn't exist! I killed it, long ago. I don't know when I'm hungry and when I'm not and then when I realize that I'm actually hungry, it's two in the morning and I can't cook so I just eat Luna Bars.

And, for some reason, I have trouble digesting all forms of protein. Intestines no likey.

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@Derevkova Mmm...Luna bars. I used to eat them a lot but my TMJ got worse so now it hurts to chew them. :(

up cubed

Is this a good place to talk about the sugar cane workers developing liver failure, either as a cause or side effect of their work?
http://www.theworld.org/2011/12/kidney-disease-epidemic/

@upupandaway Perhaps it would be a good place to talk about kidney disease, not liver failure?

up cubed

@S. Elizabeth Thank you! I always knew that farm work was pretty dangerous, but this particular issue is new to me.

PomPom

Ok, here's a question. There have been a handful of times in my adult life when I've been in the midst of eating a dish and then *immediately* became vomitous. Like, twice I threw up in the middle of the restaurant. On none of these occasions did it seem like there was something off about this dish, like something had gone rancid, it all tastes perfectly fine and them bam!, vomit. I cannot for the life of me figure out what's going on. None of these dishes had ingredients that I have not otherwise eaten in a perfectly fine manner, and once it was while eating a dish that I had enjoyed several times at that very restaurant. How do I figure out what's wrong with me? A nutritionist, a regular GP, a dietician? Some sort of investigation I should be engaging in myself? Googling, "why do I keep throwing up haphazardly?" has, oddly, not worked very well.

Amphora

@PomPom Ask a GP or gastroenterologist.

KeLynn

@PomPom - Maybe this isn't tied to the food at all? Sometimes people just barf. (I'm not a doctor, etc. etc., but if you can't find a pattern and it doesn't happen regularly, I'd just assume it belongs under the "sometimes you're barfy, that's all" umbrella.)

PomPom

@Amphora Cool, thank you!

PomPom

@KeLynn Hmmmm, maybe....The idea of a problem not having a concrete solution is making me all twitchy

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@PomPom Are you my cat?

PomPom

@fondue with cheddar Yeah. I am; you caught me. Bet you didn't know I knew how to use the computer, did you? Also, I *can" shit in the toilet, but I choose to shit in the litter box because there's nothing funnier that watching you scooping that up with your tiny little shovel.

yapplebee

@PomPom: This sort of thing has happened to me too -- most notably, every time I try to eat pad see ew I become immediately nauseated. I think it might be certain oils, because this popular LA burger chain called Umami makes me ill? (I suspect MSG.) I went to a gastroenterologist last year with various digestive complaints and he told me that I'm lactose intolerant (and I tested negative for wheat allergies), but even avoiding most creamy things I rarely feel 100% well... sigh. I too wish for concrete solutions.

angelinha

@PomPom This was happening to me (though I didn't actually throw up, but I almost never throw up so the suddenly super-sick feeling was the general person's throwing-up equivalent, I think) and I thought there was no common denominator...but then it turned out there WAS, and it was cilantro. I'd eaten cilantro a bunch before (and probably since) without incident, but the few times I've had this really sudden mid-burrito kind of pukey feeling, it was cilantro every time.

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@PomPom KITTY?! You mean all that "oh, look how stupid I am" stuff was just a ruse? Hey...maybe that's why your sister hates when I use the computer. She's jealous that she's the only one in the house who doesn't know how to use one!

KITTY

KITTY

KITTY

CAPS LOCK IS HOW I FEEL INSIDE, KITTY

Just...please try to puke on the floor and not the couch, okay?

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@angelinha I almost never throw up, too! I don't know if it's a blessing or a curse, because puking sucks, but when we get that super-sick feeling there's no relief. Aside from alcohol-related incidents I've only ever been pukey-sick twice in my life (at least as far back as my memory goes), and both times it was pretty severe.

angelinha

@fondue with cheddar Whoa, you've got me beat! I've thrown up on maybe ten or so occasions - BUT, never from drinking!

fondue with cheddar

@angelinha I've actually thrown up a lot more than ten times, but during two bouts of sickness. Geez, the last time I was sick I puked for ten hours straight—I can't even count how many times.

Alcohol-puking is actually not that bad! I mean...it's far from pleasurable but it really makes you feel better when you're shit-faced. It's a lot better than sick-puking in my experience, but then my sicknesses have been doosies so maybe I can't judge.

I have PCOS and read a lot about it because, ugh, fat hairy bitch disease. The nutritionist I once saw was kind of shitty -- madame, do not tell me to lose weight, it is nearly impossible for me to do that which is WHY I AM HERE.

But I don't eat soy, I limit the amount of wheat I eat, and I eat eggs like it's my job.

The one thing that's really helped me is finding a kickass grocery store that has the best veggies ever and the best prices (one week of groceries = $35!). So I go on major veggie kicks because "ooooh this looks interesting!" often turns into dinner.

I feel best when I eat meat, eggs, colorful veggies, and sweet potatoes. I cook things in olive oil.

Stevie

Can we talk about fruit? I love fruit and eat like 3-4 pieces a day, but My Fitness Pal tracker is telling me I'm always way over on my sugar limits because of this. (I'm not diabetic or anything.) It seems that the internet has mixed opinions about whether I should actually be concerned about this. In sum, is my fruit fetish making me fatter? (Or is it like good ol' Weight Watchers says -- fruit and veg are 0 points?)

@Stevie I'm not a professional, but honestly, it's fruit. Seriously, let's not over think this. They come out of the ground, they're unprocessed, they have fiber and water and nutrients, and they're good for you.

Are you diabetic? Are you running a marathon? Are you training for the Olympics? If not, common sense should prevail.

Megasus

@Stevie I'm pretty sure that the sugar in fruit is actually processed by your body differently than the sugar in like, cookies, because it is more natural.

MilesofMountains

@Stevie My feeling is that no one ever wrecked their health by eating too many apples/carrots/whatever other healthy thing the internet claims is too "sugary".

cuminafterall

@Stevie It does the same thing with milk! My Fitness Pal has a great database of foods, but their goals for protein, sugars, etc. are not always the best. I once went over on sugars by eating a banana with breakfast red peppers with lunch, and carrots and milk with dinner. I mean really!

There are better nutrient calculators out there (I use this one), and you can input the numbers into My Fitness Pal using their custom settings.

cuminafterall

@cuminafterall PS don't get scared by it being an "intermittent fasting" calculator. Intermittent fasting just means not eating for some period of time-- for instance, fasting for 14-16 hours a day and eating three meals in the remaining 8-10 hours.

Some people do this to try and lose fat without losing muscle. Does it work? Who knows? I do it because my gut gets angry if I eat in the morning. You can totally use the calculator while eating like a normal person, though.

TARDIStime

@Stevie provided you are not juicing it, you're good. My nutritionist (diploma of nutrition) says not to juice because that will send the fruits' GI sky-high. If you leave the skin on and stuff, though, you get way more fibre and a lower GI from your fruit and your body loves you or something.

Stevie

@cuminafterall Thank you, but I think I'm Doing It Wrong. I see that the calculator is very fancy as far as goals and total calorie calculations, but I'm not sure how to use it for daily tabulating.

dotcommie

HOW DO I EAT HEALTHY? SCENARIO: I work full time and am in grad school part time and, four days a week, I buy a crappy sandwich/sushi/pasta salad and eat it on the bus for lunch. My breakfast is eaten while walking to the train. I have no time to cook but live with a boyfriend who can be commissioned into cooking.

HELP. I have also slightly given up caring about eating healthy because I'm so overbooked I prioritize convenience over all else (also, wine).

remargaret

@dotcommie When I was in grad school, I would put a sweet potato in my backpack, and keep a jar of brown sugar on my desk. If you have a microwave, you have a healthful lunch with a high glycemic index to keep you full for awhile.

@remargaret OOOOH HOW DO YOU MICROWAVE A RAW SWEET POTATO? Because I will do this every day and then throw on some unsweetened greek yogurt and call it lunch forever.

#lawstudentproblems

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@dotcommie BEEN THERE. I guess just make the best choices you can until you graduate? I ate out a lot when I was in school and worked a full time and a part-time job at the same time. My boyfriend had a credit card that his parents paid with inheritance money he got from an uncle, and we squandered it all eating 10 PM dinner at Applebee's or Friday's literally every night, which was stupid for so many reasons.

remargaret

@S. Elizabeth Hooray! Just poke some holes in it so it doesn't explode, then stick it in the microwave for 5-7 minutes, depending on size.
Benefits are awesome! Vitamin C to keep you from getting stress-sick, B vitamins to help the brain parts! I probably ate them every single day.

dotcommie

@remargaret man i wish i like sweet potatoes more than i do (i don't like sweet things in general). maybe it'd be good covered in louisiana hot sauce.

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@dotcommie I love sweet potatoes but not when they're covered in brown sugar or butter or honey or whatever people put on them. They're already sweet! But not too sweet. Plain is best, though sweet potato fries with salt are fab.

hahahaha, ja.

@remargaret: I am going to take this advice and increase my sweet potato intake by 458301%.

Blushingflwr

@dotcommie Three jobs, two volunteer positions, an 1+ commute (on public transit where eating is verboten) and I spend every other weekend at the gentleman friend's.

Here are the things I (try to) do: I eat a piece of fruit on my walk to the Metro. I also buy the little pre-made yogurt smoothies and have one of those. In my office (which is a luxury I have not had most of my working life), I keep a stash of "breakfast on the go" by Emerald, which is basically individual trail mix packets (they come in different varieties, and lots of brands make something similar). This is high in protein and tends to keep me full longer.
In my lunch box this morning there was a lean cuisine, two apples, half a cucumber, and a yogurt. For breakfast I had a free bagel (every Wednesday, possibly my fave job perk).

Depending on the time you have on weekends, you can also try to do prepare-ahead stuff. I like to make rice and then use it for Fried Rice, which is fast and delicious on a weeknight. My father used to make a week's worth of sandwiches and freeze them, then microwave them when he got to the office (he likes them hot, with melted cheese).

Also, there is nothing wrong with prioritizing convenience. The number one thing you need is to get enough calories into your body to function. You have to eat, it's okay if sometimes that's as far as you get.

@fondue with cheddar I like them with caramelized onions and gorgonzola. Oh heeeyyyy tonight's dinner.

par_parenthese

@dotcommie Mix up canned black beans (drained and rinsed) and salsa. Throw some cumin in there if you feel like it. Bake yer sweet potato. Heat up the black-bean-salsa mixture. Top. Cheese/sour cream optional. Voila. Savory and delicious.

acid burn

@dotcommie You can also do it with a regular potato, or a beet, or basically any root vegetable. It's my standard winter meal; throw some butter and salt and pepper on there and eat it with some plain yogurt and maybe some green thing like broccoli. Delicious!

up cubed

@dotcommie: I don't cook at all during the work week and I try to do mostly Paleo meals: snacks- bags of nuts stashed everywhere from TJs; breakfast- make eggs in the microwave at work; lunch and dinner- do a TON of BBQing on the weekend (summer) or bake some whole chickens (winter) and pack a piece of meat and some chopped veggies for lunch (assembled on weekend); frozen greek yogurt for the really late nights :)

wee_ramekin

@dotcommie I keep a jar of peanut or almond butter at work and then buy apples and bananas to slather it on. This ends up being a pretty filling snack. I also buy trail mix in bulk and keep some at my desk.

For lunches, I usually purchase Amy's frozen meals. They are all vegetarian, and they are delicious. I especially like their vegetable lasagna and their stuffed shells (hello, today's lunch!).

Sally, what's the deal with sweet potatoes?

I love them. They are delicious. I want to eat them every day because they make my body happy. I like them in every variety -- baked, steamed, boiled with homemade chicken stock and pureed into soup, grated and mixed with onion and yogurt to make a pancake and fried in olive oil (sweet potato latkes = amazing), mashed with cinnamon and cloves, in french fry form (bad for you but soooo good), oh god sweet potatoes, they are AMAZING.

So what's up? Everyone says something different, from "ew carbs!" to "great glycemic index!" to "they'll make you fat!" to "great diet food!" So please, tell me about sweet potatoes and please validate my undying love for the humble little orange lumpy thing that makes my tummy happy.

(obviously sweet potato fries aren't awesome, I'm mostly wondering about steamed or baked sweet potato)

frigwiggin

@S. Elizabeth All I know is, I have roasted sweet potato chunks in the fridge waiting to be made into sweet potato-chipotle soup with lime cream and if that's wrong, I don't want to be right.

(I feel the same way about eggs--good for you? Bad for you? All I know is they're delicious and every couple weeks I hard-boil some so that I can have two a day for breakfast until they're gone.)

up cubed

@S. Elizabeth My coaches suggest eating them when you want good carbs for energy, but skipping them if you are going to have a sedentary day.

cashmere velvet candy cane

@S. Elizabeth Well, I'm not a nutritionist but I say if you love them and they make your body happy then eat them! Your body is smart and it generally knows what it needs. You don't need someone to validate your love for them, you have the power.

I try not to pay attention to articles about which foods are MAGIC KEYS TO ETERNAL LIFE and which ones are EDIBLE DEATH because they are pretty much all contradictory nonsense.

baked bean

@S. Elizabeth Yeah it grows from the ground, and it has vitamins... you're fine.
Sweet potato latkes sound AMAZING. omg.

I feel sort of weird about how people talk about fat too. Like, I always justify that homemade fat is fine. Like if I take my vegetables and stir fry it in a little butter and garlic that's ok, because it tastes goddamn amazing with a little butter and I'm not eating fast food or frozen meals. A wee pat of butter is FIIINE if it makes me eat my veggies vs. not eat my veggies.

sarah girl

Since this is a general food kinda post, I want to share one of my favorite recipes, a portion of which I just gleefully ate for lunch: Red lentil curry! Not that expensive and delicious over brown rice.

Pro tip: The first comment in the comments section has a good recommendation for cooking the lentils so they're soft but not mushy.

Megasus

@Sarah H. I am so making this, you have no idea.

'riel

Can we talk about periods? In the week or so before my period, my appetite and regular diet are just completely fucked. It's like a rollercoaster of craving and total indifference.

Anyone else have this too?

sudden but inevitable betrayal

@'riella Yes. Last night as I was falling head-first into fried chicken, a tiny voice in my brain said, "maybe tomorrow we should eat some vegetables?" and my uterus roared back, "YOU SHUT THE FUCK UP, YOU."

stonefruit

@'riella My period wants me to eat ALL THE SALT and ALL THE FAT. Preferably in the form of Lays potato chips. I'm working on substituting in dried seaweed (the really, really salty kind that I can get in bulk at the co-op), but my period's no fool and I don't know how long I can keep this up.

planforamiracle

@stonefruit meee tooooo... my period's favourite is any combination of chips and cheese. Nachos are the ideal, but plain potato chips with ricotta (sorry) will also do nicely.
my period doesn't really do the "total indifference" to food thing. just the cravings.

'riel

@sudden but inevitable betrayal Yeah, it's like you leave a chocolate bar near me, it doesn't matter if I couldn't even look at food earlier that day and ate half a kale leaf, that chocolate bar is going the fuck down.

Is there a particular reason for this? Edith! Can you maybe ask?

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@'riella ME TOO. I crave cheese, ice cream, and red meat. Once a month I cave and get a fast food burger. Because OMG BEEF.

@planforamiracle My body also does not know "total indifference". Unfortunately.

par_parenthese

@'riella YES I just want to eat everything. Forever. Salty crunchy fatty things are my weakness 100% of the time, but the week before my period I want to live on Salt & Vinegar Kettle Chips and Alexia salt and pepper fries. And beer. With sea-salt/almond chocolate and bourbon for dessert.

TARDIStime

@fondue with cheddar The red meat is probably about the iron you need for your blood (women need nearly twice the iron men do because of periods).
Sincerely, not a dietitian.

fondue with cheddar

@par_parenthese Alexia salt and pepper fries are SOO GOOD.

@TARDIStime Yeah, I take a multi for women that has a LOT of iron in it. Still crave burgers sometimes. I've been tested for anemia and it's not that. It's probably just because my periods are so heavy.

KatnotCat

@'riella You may need to eat more calories prior to your period--it's totally normal and why a lot of women suddenly start craving fatty foods during PMS. Your resting metabolism rises up to 10% during that time. I've found that eating something fatty and savory for breakfast usually helps me with PMS cravings.

Cravings can also be related to other deficiencies like people said, but if you try eating the exact same food the week before your period while your body is burning a a couple hundred extra calories, it's no surprise you might end up like "CHEESE FRIES RIGHT NOW" at 6 p.m.

frigwiggin

I bought a new brand of cottage cheese the other day thinking I would enjoy it (I love Nancy's yogurt!) but somehow it's sooooo souuuuur and tart and kind of made my mouth tingle when I ate it. I haven't had any again because I can't figure out if that's normal for the brand or if it went off somehow in the store. I just wanted some mild, dairy-fresh-tasting cottage cheese!

LooseBaggyMonster

Noooo! What am I supposed to eat instead of Cheerios? Are Trader O's somehow better? Do I have to go back to hard-as-rocks Fiber O's?

par_parenthese

@LooseBaggyMonster I just gave up cereal altogether. Sprouted grain toast (which is AMAZING, do not let the "healthy" part fool you) is my jam when i need a starchy breakfast thing. Mostly I live on eggs for breakfast though. Lasts longer, waaaaaaay healthier.

acid burn

@LooseBaggyMonster I'm in a nutrition class right now and I'm kind of confused about why there would be anything wrong with whole grains that happen to be crunched up. They still have all the parts that you need, right?

entangled

@acid burn yeah, that's what I'm missing. @par-parenthese - I love sprouted grain toast, but I don't know that it's any less processed than the healthiest cereals which only have a couple of ingredients.

I've been making my own meusli enough, though more for taste/money saving reasons than health. I think this recipe (http://thehairpin.com/2011/05/how-to-feel-competent-by-dumping-a-lot-of-stuff-in-a-bowl/) is actually what got me hooked on the hairpin in the first place.

TARDIStime

@LooseBaggyMonster Puffed millet. That shit is awesome and healthy and puffy textured.

TARDIStime

@acid burn
I think its because those parts are all pulverised, meaning that the glycemic index goes down because your stomach has an easier time processing the bits n pieces and so you get hungry sooner.
Example: whole grains that are left whole are the best because they take the longest to break down, due to the stomach having to do more work to remove the outer husk and so on. Lowest GI due to this.
Wholemeal is slightly less good because even though the husk is still included, your stomach no longer has to work to remove it, increasing the GI (but you still get your fibre) (but you're hungry again sooner).
white bread = the worst because no husk, no fibre, you take 5 mins to digest and you're hungry again (but: fluffy, white and so gooooooood).

sandwiches

@acid burn I think there's a whole bunch of chemical processing that goes on as well as the physical processing that can affect how "whole" it is.

baked bean

@LooseBaggyMonster I LOVE CEREAL. Like I know some of it's not real food, like Golden Grahams, but those things are so goddamn fucking delicious.

darklingplain

I've realized that I get like all of my calories from fat. Seriously, my entire diet is basically cheese, chocolate chips, and pickled things (olives, pickles, kimchi, etc). It seems to work for me, but I'm not sure if it's actually going to kill me some day soon?

baked bean

@darklingplain Pickled things are supposed to be awesome for you! So with the theory of counter-acting foods you might be ok. Plus those pickled things are veggies.

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