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Now, Start By Adding More "Nows"

The Atlantic Wire has a nice visual representation of Bill Clinton's prepared speech versus the words that actually came out of his mouth last night at the DNC.

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hands_down

Clinton/Clinton '16, amiright?

raised amongst catalogs

@hands_down AHHH I just said this to someone!

Lucienne

@hands_down It took me a minute to realize you weren't suggesting Bill Clinton clone himself.

But then again, who knows what the future will look like.

Julia duMais

@Lucienne a car in every garage and a Bill Clinton clone in every bed.

Ophelia

@Julia duMais I mean, he'd have Air Force 1, so we can really just say, "A Bill Clinton in every bed."

Heat Signature

@Julia duMais That'd get my vote.

hands_down

@Lucienne It would be *amazing* to watch the Republican response to Bill Clinton revealing a clone of himself.

Lustful Cockmonster

@hands_down Could you imagine all the red faces and bulging eyeballs? It is very possible Ann Coulter's head would actually explode.

And James Carville would be running about the streets whooping gleefully.

hands_down

@Grumplestiltskin The problem is that Coulter is a T-1000 and will just regenerate. You have to find the power source in order to destroy her.

laurel

@Lucienne: The future will look like twirling, twirling, twirling toward freedom.

RK Fire

@hands_down: She's not like the one ring where you have to throw her into the heart of a volcano?

Julia duMais

I feel like this is a place where it's safe for me to giggle over that article's referral to "Clinton's insertions".

laurel

World's best vegan.

SarahP

@laurel Ahem.

laurel

@SarahP: What?

I suppose I should have said, "My favorite vegan". I don't actually know all the other vegans in the world. Some of them are probably better. I just like his matter-of-factness, all, "Well otherwise I'll die immediately, while giving this speech."

SarahP

@laurel Ha ha, I'm vegan, that's all.

laurel

@SarahP: I'm sure you are a stupendous vegan!

Maria

Fantastic speech, but I so feel bad for the person running his teleprompter.

Ophelia

@Maria I'm not exactly sure why they bother giving him a teleprompter?? Or not just having one that's basically paragraph headings/powerpoint slides, so he can fill in the rest as he goes.

Beaker

Watched this speech on the elliptical this morning and it was getting me AMPED. I think it officially means that I am a Boring Adult when I'm rocking out to political conventions at the gym rather than pop music.

theotherginger

@Beaker no. it means you're awesome. I listen to semi-educational podcasts or CBC- canadian news radio while I run. It's more fun than music.

Xanthophyllippa

I was so hoping this would be a flowchart.

Ophelia

@Xanthophyllippa We should make flowcharts for the policy positions of each candidate (with all that spare time, I mean)

Xanthophyllippa

@Ophelia I feel like it would involve an awful lot of circles.

TheUnchosenOne

I love that he wasn't going off-script necessarily, he was just giving the speech he wrote, not the one the DNC edited for time.

ColdFinger

@TheUnchosenOne He didn't vet it! He didn't vet it with the dems!!!

I love this fact, hence all the "!!!'s." My guess is he didn't have anything against having it vetted, per se, he just knew he'd be writing it at, like, 1 am the previous evening. You know. As you do, cause you're Bill Clinton, and it's NBD.

hands_down

I try to be rational and remind myself that Clinton made plenty of mistakes during his presidency, that I didn't agree with a number of his policy decisions. But, that speech! He articulated so perfectly what Democrats have to offer all Americans and why it is a million times better than anything the other side can come up with. After watching the speech I wanted to run around going, "Woooo! USA! USA!"

Lustful Cockmonster

Every time I see him speak I am comforted that at least SOMEONE knows what's going on. It doesn't matter what he's pontificating about, or even if I agree with it. That is some skill.

hands_down

@Grumplestiltskin Exactly!

ohpioneer

48 minutes of justice.

Blackwatch Plaid

Question: where do we all stand on the whole Clinton-as-sexual-harasser-and-maybe-rapist thing? Like, I've recently had democratic feminists yell at me for even bringing it up. Isn't it a little weird that we're so protective of him? I mean, look how we responded to the accusations against Herman Cain and Dominique Strauss-Kahn.

Ophelia

@glittercock Sexual harasser? Yes. Policy advocate for women writ large? Yes. I'd probably feel differently about him if he had his same personal history, and Paul Ryan's platform. But what I want from my politicians is policy, and that's what he gave us.

I'm generally more willing to jump on the personal unsavoriness of politicians whose platforms are of the "family values" bent.

Part of this also stems from the fact that I was too young to analyze any of this when Clinton was president.

Blackwatch Plaid

@Ophelia I don't really take issue with his politics. But what I've been seeing for the last few days is a whole lot of people going on about his sex appeal and charm. To me, that is incredibly icky.

laurel

@glittercock: I find the whole Bill Clinton phenomenon problematic. While he's enormously smart and charismatic and a singularly effective politician, his personal behavior has doubtless been odious at times. But the ridiculousness of the forces that arrayed themselves against him casts doubt on what might be real claims of sexual misconduct against him. It's so hard to know the truth of any of it, leaving me susceptible to his gifts.

theotherginger

@glittercock totally legit question. @laurel. I think you are right. Also, I'm not American. Can I legitimately have an opinion on him?

laurel

@theotherginger: Does American policy have any impact on life in your country, as our bombastic rhetoric routinely claims? If so, opine away.

theotherginger

@laurel I think American policy has impact on every country. Although perhaps not in the way the rhetoric claims. Me and my opinions feel vindicated. Pinners ftw.

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