Friday, September 7, 2012


Bachelorette's Leslye Headland: "You’re Just Not Gonna Be Okay"

Writer and director Leslye Headland's Bachelorette is a female ensemble comedy that culminates in a wedding, but Headland doesn't want it confused with Bridesmaids or any of the other recent pack of funny-lady flicks. In fact, she'd rather not be thought of as a female writer at all.

“When I first started getting read and I started having [meetings] and Bachelorette made The Black List [a peer-nominated Hollywood list of the best unproduced screenplays], it was like, ‘So you’re a female Neil LaBute!’” Headland, who made her name as a playwright, said. “And you wouldn’t say, ‘You’re a gentile Neil Simon,’ you know what I mean? You wouldn’t say, ‘You’re a white John Singleton.’ Women are actually the majority in this country, so why are you using that adjective to describe my writing? Why can’t you just say it’s like Neil LaBute, which I would take as a huge compliment?”

As moviegoers will soon find out, Headland’s writing is, well, pure Headland. Whether it’s Isla Fisher as party animal Katie goading Kirsten Dunst’s type-A Regan into licking the sidewalk to admit defeat (“just a little cat lick”) or Lizzy Caplan’s bitter mean girl, Gena, expounding on the appropriate level of blowjob enthusiasm for every occasion (“I'll give you a 6 after a fight when we're making up. An 8 when you spent a shitload of money on me or get me something that's a sweet gift or something. I'll do a full 8”), Headland’s Bachelorette-isms are distinctly different from film dialogue in recent memory.

The same goes for her decidedly unladylike — but lifelike — characters. Caplan, Dunst and Fisher stomp through the movie fueled by cocaine and petty high school bitterness, coupled with the inevitable wear and tear that comes from life’s little frictions. The trio, which Fisher laughingly referred to as “the bitchelorettes,” portray high school friends brought together to celebrate the nuptials of their clique's fourth member, Becky (played by Rebel Wilson). Old resentments and judgements also come to the party: the whip-thin trio compare their lives to Rubenesque Becky's and glower, wondering how it is that she’s the first to the altar, seemingly “having it all.” Which, of course, she doesn’t — no one does. Not Katie, who seeks validation through wild partying and one night stands, using a sleek physique to mask low intellect and high insecurity, nor Regan, who so craves control that she sticks her fingers down her throat, nor Gena, whose rampant drug use and guns-blazing sarcasm keep past traumas at bay. Even Becky, still haunted by classmates’ past taunts of “pig face,” and that nagging inner monologue whispering that she’ll never shine in a sea of beautiful girls. Nor you, nor me, for that matter.

Some critics have slammed the movie, saying the characters' bad decisions (mountains of cocaine, purposeful vomiting, cruel remarks, general hot mess-ness) indicate bad characters, which Headland called out as a sign of the male/female double standard.

“Little did I know that everyone was going to have a nervous breakdown about it. ‘Women doing drugs!’ I was like, ‘Oh, God. Get over it,’” she said. “It just didn’t occur to me until later, when the play was up" — a version of Bachelorette was also performed onstage — "and people were like, 'We fucking hate this,’ and I was like, ‘Oh, OK, well, if they were all 40 and men and it was called Hurlyburly and starring Christopher Walken, you’d love it.”

In addition to being three-dimensional, the women (and men; Adam Scott, James Marsden, and Kyle Bornheimer star as equally hapless groomsmen) of the film are also living believable lives. These anti-heroines don’t have a Transformative Moment in which everything suddenly comes together. Katie doesn’t suddenly grow smarts, Regan doesn’t relax, Gena doesn’t let her guard down, and Becky doesn’t forget her past demons. Covered — to varied degrees — in vomit, their status at the film’s close is the same as any honest woman’s: working on it.

To that point, Headland said that she identifies with all of her work-in-progress characters. No one character is based on her — they all are.

“I’m Regan when I work, Gena when I wake up in the morning. I’m Katie — what’s really sad is that men think they’re getting in bed with Gena, and then they wake up with Katie,” she said. “They’re like, ‘Oh God!’ and then I’m this like sad little girl who’s just sort of like, ‘Do you like me? Do I look OK?’ And they, like, thought I was going to be somebody else. I’m like, ‘Please just like me, please just like me.’

“The thing that’s probably most autobiographical is just the sentiment of the piece. Like, this sucks. This really sucks. I feel inadequate as a woman and I’m not exactly sure why, and I’m not exactly sure why I was handed a piece of paper that said ‘feminism’ at the top and it was actually just a to-do list of things I was supposed to get done by the time I was 30. I was just like, what the fuck is this? That’s not — I don’t want it all. I don’t actually want that.”

Bachelorette isn't a downer, though — the easiest sumary is Mean Girls times two, divided by The Hangover, plus Bridesmaids, plus a pile of narcotics, minus a rom-com with a rosy, happy ending. While the trio brood and barf, they also have a driving purpose: in a lightheartedly bitchy moment, two of the svelte girls demonstrate that they can fit in Becky’s tent-like dress together. Unsurprisingly, it rips. Mission impossible: repair the dress before dawn. Havoc ensues.

If the the essential thread of the film is that hell is other people (and yourself), then it’s bolstered by Headland’s opinion that hell is other people at a wedding.

“Both my younger sisters have gotten married, and I was like, 'Why is everyone such assholes at a wedding?'” Headland said of her inspiration for the story. “I just couldn’t believe it. I was like, ‘Why isn’t anyone making a movie about what fucking dicks people are?’ It’s like, really? This woman is getting married and pledging eternity to this dude and you’re making this whole night about you? Like those people who sit in the front row and sob, like wahhhh! This is about your own self pity. This has nothing to do with you being happy for someone.”

If there’s one thing Headland stressed, other than the fact that high school truly never ends, it’s the need to make your own happy endings. There is no universal checklist for fulfilment, and no right way to live your life. Spouse, no spouse; kids, no kids; fat, skinny; sober, not — there’s no definitive right answer.

“I only have a short time where I’m gonna get to be able to do this, I might as well do it the way I want to,” Headland said. “And like the movie says: fuck everyone. Fuck it. Because they don’t know what’s going on. I look at women who are married and have children and they’re totally miserable, and I look at women who have children and they’re totally happy. That material stuff doesn’t, that relationship stuff doesn’t — I have been in relationships where I have been so in love, I thought God put that person on earth just for me. I’ve been in a relationship where the idiosyncrasies of someone else made me want to fucking kill myself. I was like, ‘I never want to do this again, I never want to be in a relationship again, I can’t stand living with this person.’ About someone who I used to adore. It just ... it doesn’t matter. It doesn’t matter if you don’t get those things.

“Everyone’s just running around trying to get the thing to put on the top of their pile to say, ‘Look, I’m okay. I am okay because I have these things,’ and you’re just not gonna be okay.”

Despite her no-holds-barred, did-it-my-way attitude, Headland did admit one regret: “I wish I’d slept my way to the top. I wish I could do that. I’d get laid more. I never get laid.”

Kase Wickman can provide references for her flower girl abilities, but lacks bridesmaid experience.

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So wait, this is a good movie, right? Because I want EVERYTHING with Lizzy Caplan in it to be good, but there was a bad review I read somewhere?


@josiahg Why she wasn't nominated for an Oscar for Hot Tub Time Machine is beyond me.

But seriously, I love Lizzy Caplan, too, even though I do not like a lot of her characters. I think I just hold on to the fondness I have for Janis Ian.


Ditto on "Hot Tub Time Machine," really, that was a great film.

Chicago Hairpin group movie viewing to go see this? I propose Sunday, September 16. (Sorry, observant Jews!)


@josiahg I have seen it twice already and LOVE it.

Beatrix Kiddo

@josiahg I want everything she's in to be as good as Mean Girls and Party Down, but I heard this movie was just fat jokes over and over.


@olivebee: Oddly I thought she was sort of one note in HTTM (didn't have a lot of script to work with), but Rob Corddry STOLE the show


@ELECTROMAGNETIC CHAOS Haha, yeah I was totally joking about HTTM. I didn't even finish the movie. That movie wasn't exactly written for the female characters (or audience, I suppose).

I think Lizzy Caplan can play the designated "love interest" role, but you have to give her some comedic material to work with because that's where she shines.


@olivebee: Her slightly caustic, whip smart personality basically gives me heart flutters. She could charm me.


@Beatrix Kiddo NO I am jumping in super late here to tell you all that I saw this movie last week and loved it and you should see it.

There are fat jokes, a good number of them, but I thought it was pretty obvious that the jokes are on the teller, not the person meant to be the butt. As a not-particularly-waify person, I spent the first five minutes being offended and then realized that they do a really good job of pointing out how all of that shit is about the insecurities of the speaker and really has nothing to do with what they're trying to make fun of.

I would not have thought this was a subtle point but judging by the reviews it might have been. Either that or they've never spent more than 10 minutes in the presence of ladies in the 18-30 age range and have no reference at all.

miss buenos aires

@redacted I am jumping in even later to say that I just saw this movie and thought it was hilarious. Would I recommend it to anyone? Not necessarily. Did it have a lot of problems? Yep. But it made me laugh out loud a lot and I thought the three stars were brilliant, especially Isla Fisher, who is an under-appreciated comic genius.


i just loved it -_- awesome:*@v


Leslye was my roommate freshman year in college! I have so enjoyed following her success. She was hilarious and scary smart at 18.


@Leanne I'm friends with her little brother (we are gchatting right now, META). That family is so smart and so kind! Wonderful people, the lot.

Lila Fowler

I love every human in this trailer.

Veronica Lemmons

Wow. This lady is STRIDENT AS THE FUCK, in the best possible (read: Caitlin Moran) sense.


@Veronica Lemmons I was nodding at everything she said, and by the time she said, “Everyone’s just running around trying to get the thing to put on the top of their pile to say, ‘Look, I’m okay. I am okay because I have these things,’ and you’re just not gonna be okay," I actually fist pumped. In my cubicle. Nothing to see here, carry on, coworkers.

saul "the bear" berenson

@TheclaAndTheSeals YES! That was my clarity moment of the day. Fuck Yes. It's like we are all sprinting toward the finish line, to arrive... where?

Oh, squiggles

:-/ As a fat person with thin friends, this movie showcases my fear that they might make fun of me behind my back. I don't think they would, because they don't seem to be dicks. But I don't really want to see fictional "friends" (sarcastic quote marks) be that awful.

Which sucks because obviously some great people in the cast...why didn't they just make a Party Down movie?


@Awesomely Nonfunctional I'm also having a little bit of an issue with the author of this piece referring to the wedding dress as "tent-like." Just kind of rubbed me the wrong way; like even the author is getting in a couple of digs on the character as well?


@Awesomely Nonfunctional I also hated that but after reading the rest, maybe this is just an extension of the fact that the people in this movie are all horrible? I don't know. I will probably watch it regardless.

Nicole Cliffe

I literally have never given the size of any of my friends a single thought, and yours probably haven't either. Xoxox

Lily Rowan

@WhiskeySour I basically stopped reading after she said being compared to Neil LaBute was a compliment. I know people think he's good, but I just find his stuff so unpleasant.


@Lily Rowan

Neil LaBute is unpleasant. More importantly, his work is getting increasingly shallow, repetitive and humorless. Ms. Headland is already smarter and funnier (I saw BACHELORETTE onstage last year and was pretty impressed). Good for her if the comparison gets her some deserved attention, but she's better.

Beatrix Kiddo

@Awesomely Nonfunctional A Party Down movie would be the best. And I'm sure your friends aren't as horrible as the characters in this movie sound.


@Awesomely Nonfunctional Please don't worry about that. The people in the movie are kinda awful, people all around, unless you know that your friends are terrible you have no need to worry.


@Awesomely Nonfunctional i was on board with the trailer until the part where the two friends both get into the girl's wedding dress. that seems ... pretty insensitive.

i find this is the case with even movies that "get it right" most of the time, there always seem to be one or two jokes that just rub me the wrong way.


@Awesomely Nonfunctional my best best friend, whom I call my fourth sister, has been overweight or extremly overweight in the course of our 12-year friendship. No one has ever made fun of her in front of me, and I'd KILL whomever tried to. I HAVE talked with other friends about my concerns for her health, but I've never said something I wouldn't/haven't said to her face. So just, don't worry. I'm sure you picked awesome people to be your friends. And they have your back :)


@redheaded&crazie I saw this on stage, and it is supposed to come off as that insensitive and awful. In the opening, they make it pretty clear that (I think) Regan is the only one who is even supposed to be there. When Becky decides to spend the evening with her fiance, Regan invites the other women (who have a history of being awful to Becky and were not invited to the wedding) to party with her in the bride's hotel room.

So it's all awful. I don't know if they changed it for the movie, but in the play by that point I was already physically uncomfortable from how much they are not supposed to be there and fucking up this person's room and wedding. It was a tiny theater, I was maybe 10 feet from the dress when they ripped it, and I think I flinched. Honestly, it succeeded so much in its intention I'm not sure I could watch it again.

Beatrix Kiddo

@themmases That makes much more sense than how it comes off in the trailer, because to me it just looks like, "why would you consider these awful people your close friends?"


@themmases They changed it in the movie - all three are bridesmaids (def. made more sense the way it is in the play). But it's made clear that they are being drugged out shitheads when they climb into that dress, and then spend the rest of the movie trying to fix it.

I really liked the movie, but wish I'd seen the play.

@Beatrix Kiddo I wondered why they're friends too. I think it's just history. A bunch of my friends have had bridesmaids they aren't close to anymore, as a nod to their past and whatnot. I... kind of bought it.


@Megoon Thank you, I was just coming back to add that! I couldn't watch the video at work (when I made my first comment) and read that after posting. That seems like it would make it make less sense... Although there is also some questioning in the play of why Becky thinks Regan is her friend or would ever invite her.


Sorta wanna print this out and keep it on my person at all times but who has a printer anymore and also maybe I can just commit it to memory


For a split second I mistook Lizzy Caplan for Kate Moennig in this trailer and I got so excited.


Still pretty excited now, though.

sarah girl

Aaaaand the only person of color in the trailer is a sassy black housekeeper. (Or dry cleaner, not clear from the context.)


@Sarah H. Yeah, my thought watching that was "Oh look, straight white people. GROUNDBREAKING."


@tales I also didn't dig hearing 'man up' and that whole 'blowjob enthusiasm' thing the article mentions puts me waaaay off.


"You want someone to put you in your place" um yeah, I guess, if she has a fetish for American culture.

saul "the bear" berenson

I really like Bachelorette and this is my favorite piece I've read about it thus far. I have a feeling that if it does well this weekend, we'll see a lot more press about it, and the way people talk about these characters will be really revealing. AKA I'm a little scared to see what people have to say. I think it may be akin to when Girls premiered.


Hmmmmmm. I am intrigued by the concept, and I like the cast, and I can't watch the trailer until I'm not in an office full of coworkers, but that Neil LaBute thing makes me prickle. Does the world really need any more Neil LaBute? Am I alone in being violently allergic to anything that could be compared to Neil LaBute?

Jane Marie

@werewolfbarmitzvah i love neil labute. whoops!


@werewolfbarmitzvah: If a third 'pin editor likes Neil, you're banished from the site werewolfbarmitzvah. Sorry, thems the rules

Jane Marie

@ELECTROMAGNETIC CHAOS shhhh, don't anyone wake edith up.


@Jane Marie I know that tons of people love love looooooove Neil LaBute, and he does have a lot of skill to his writing, but especially as I get older, I can't deal with the sociopath stuff anymore. Same goes for anything from Bret Easton Ellis. The material never really reads to me as something holding up a mirror to society to expose its inherent awfulness; to me it looks more like the author holding up a mirror to himself to reveal his own inherent awfulness. I love plenty of literature and film with dark themes, but the LaBute material takes all that stuff into a direction that just makes me queasy, and makes me wonder what in god's name happened to this dude to make him wind up so sour and hate-filled. There are bad things in this world and there are bad people in this world, yes, but rarely have I encountered actual living breathing humans who are quite as rotten to the core as virtually every character created by LaBute.




@werewolfbarmitzvah Hm. I think I like LaBute because his characters aren't necessarily realistic. I think they reflect what would happen if you followed all your shittiest instincts. Ie sometimse I want to punch someone on the subway for stepping on my pinky toe, but I don't, and in a LaBute play I would and we'd be off to the races.

Caitlin Podiak

I saw this on VOD and liked it. Better than Bridesmaids, but I actually didn't like Bridesmaids that much. The ending is kind of like, "Oh, that's the end? Okay." But I guess that makes it feel more real, if less satisfying.

Regina Phalange

Reeeally don't love a man telling a woman "You want someone to put you in your place," followed by someone getting hit across the face. Even if it's him getting hit, I don't find that funny.

I'm Right on Top of that, Rose

@Regina Phalange That squicked me out too.


@Regina Phalange *SPOILER WARNING* I was pretty annoyed by the whole "I didn't take you to the abortion because it was too sad." Uh...I think it's a little more sad for the person getting one. Alone. Because their boyfriend was a selfish whiny juicebox. AND THEN SHE SLEPT WITH HIM ANYWAY?!! WTF?
I hate this movie as much as I love it. SO MANY FEELINGS.

miss buenos aires

@Slapfight Yeah, at that point I leaned over to my friend and whispered, "Well, boo-freaking-hoo." Someone needed to spray-paint "PRICK' on his car.


I'm kind of over movies where none of the characters are likeable at all.


@RobotsNeedLove This is my absolute number one turn off for a movie or TV show. I don't need everyone to be daisies and sunshine all the time, because I DO like stuff that is all-too-realistic. But realistic/flawed/multidimensional does NOT always have to equal unlikable. But most writers make it that way, and it drives me insane.

Sometimes I want to identify with flawed characters and a lot of times I want to root for them. But it makes it hard if "raging bitch" or "smug asshole" are the so-called "flaws."


@olivebee Right? I live in reality, and I know very few people who don't have any good qualities, or who are so very very unkind.


@RobotsNeedLove: This is an interesting statement, because it seems to be the main element that is dividing all the reviews across the web I am seeing.

There is a vein of movie in which the characters are characters themselves; that is to say, they are archetypes or cartoon versions of people, and that is the point - that they are so mean as to be unreal, that the movie world they exist in is not the same as our reality, so their personalities and character arcs do not obey the same way as ours.

It's just really fascinating seeing a lot of 'If you liked Bridesmaids, you'll hate this, but if you hated Bridesmaids, you'll like this' out there.


@ELECTROMAGNETIC CHAOS Yeah, I think that's the line for me. For instance, I was really enjoying Girls while I felt the the characters were making (very poor) attempts at figuring life out. While they were flawed and narcissistic and naive and self indulgent, I still identified. Haven't we all been those people?

It's when it veered into caricature that I lost interest. How hard is it to write very cruel, very sad people? I mean, obviously kind of hard, I just don't think it's very interesting. Maybe it's just my own bias. I don't want to believe that people who behave poorly have no redeeming characteristics, because it makes me afraid for myself.

I'll probably see this though.


@RobotsNeedLove Yeah, as I get older I realize more and more that my favorite media is media with characters that I actually like. This is what makes Parks and Recreation so great--to be sure, the characters aren't exactly realistic, but they're all so lovable and fun!!

The Frozen Head of Dorothy Zbornak

@OhMarie Hah, when I read @RobotsNeedLove's original comment, my mind immediately went to Parks and Rec.

This phenomenon also explains why I love and loathe and the first and second halves of the Simpsons' run, respectively.

Rookie (not the magazine) (not that there's anything wrong with that)

@The Frozen Head of Dorothy Zbornak @all
Sidebar: If there are so many people that hate watching things with zero likeable characters, HOW DOES AARON SORKIN STILL GET PAID TO WRITE THINGS?

Chesty LaRue

@RobotsNeedLove I'm definitely over books like that (damn you Franzen)


@RobotsNeedLove I think that's why Sex and the City was so popular, and why I still enjoy it. The characters were flawed, but in ways that were relatable -- Carrie with her against-better-judgment-but-not-unrealistic attachment to Big and dumping of Aiden, Charlotte with her stubborn desire for the perfect man, Miranda for her doing illogical thing in spite of her general logical-ness, and Samantha for unapologetically sleeping qwith questionable men just because she felt like it.

We all have moments where we're not proud of ourselves, especially when it comes to relationships, and that's human. I only think it's a problem when we (or the women who supposedly speak for or represent us) have only those moments, and have no redeeming qualities. Few of us are that one-dimensional. I think there needs to be more portrayals of women in media and entertainment of women who are multifaceted with good and bad characteristics, instead of just archtypes and stereotypes. Few women are that narrow, and to have female characters that are doesn't reflect reality, which is a problem.

Barry Grant

“I wish I’d slept my way to the top. I wish I could do that. I’d get laid more. I never get laid.”

Call me.

Barry Grant

Um, not that I'm at the top or anything.


isla fisher is my role model


@redheaded&crazie and I will definitely be going to see this


@redheaded&crazie: You and redheads!


@ELECTROMAGNETIC CHAOS they are my adopted brethren!

miss buenos aires

@redheaded&crazie My theory about Isla Fisher is that the only reason she is not in every single comedy is that no one knows how to pronounce her first name. There can be no other explanation. That woman is hilarious.


This is the first I've seen the trailer, so I can't really comment on the quality of the movie itself. (I know trailers are often misleading.) That said...

Based on what I saw in the trailer, I have no desire to see the movie, despite my love of nearly everyone in the cast. NOT because it was written by a woman, but because I just didn't think it looked that good. And when I read the piece directly following the trailer, after rolling my eyes at every stale punchline, I cringed reading the defensive quote from Headland that, well, if it were written by a man, people would love it. Would they?

The double standard for men and women *is* definitely an issue that we need to keep addressing. And I'm not saying Headland is necessarily wrong in this case, either. But I really dislike when people immediately jump to the whole double-standard argument, because it seems like a cop out, a defensive reaction, rather than a thoughtful argument. Particularly when coming from the screenwriter herself--the way the quote was phrased in the piece, it sounds as if she didn't even consider the idea that people might have legitimate criticism.

(And if this is true, it's a shame, because I really liked the rest of what she was saying, and she sounds a lot smarter and funnier than the impression I got from the movie jokes. I do hope she succeeds, really.)

Beatrix Kiddo

@OneTooManySpoons I agree 12 million percent with this entire comment.



This was a play before she adapted her own script for the movie, (which she also directed) and she is directly referencing reviews and comments the NYC production of the play received. Since you have no experience of the work in question and I do, I can say she's plenty justified in saying people were calling her out in a double-standardy way.


@City_Dater Yeah, about it being a play, I didn't articulate that well in my comment. I understood she was talking about the reactions to the play and not to the film. But that in itself doesn't change my point.

What you've said about the way people were calling her out is good to know. As I said, I don't know much about it, so I wasn't trying to say she was necessarily wrong. Since you are familiar with it, what was the gist of most of the criticism? If all of it was along the lines of "Women doing drugs!!! Women being bad!!@#$@!@!" then yeah, totally. But just reading the quote:

"...people were like, 'We fucking hate this,’ and I was like, ‘Oh, OK, well, if they were all 40 and men and it was called Hurlyburly and starring Christopher Walken, you’d love it.'"

...to those of us unfamiliar with it (and isn't that who this piece was written for?), it's presented without a whole lot to back it up. I mean, I'm all for characters of any sex behaving in terrible/debauched/hilarious ways... I just thought what I saw above lacked the "hilarious" part.

But who knows? Trailers often cut jokes together in awful ways that do the movie no justice. Also, I am definitely willing to stay open-minded for anything involving a Lizzy Caplan/Adam Scott combination.


I saw this on demand a couple weeks ago, and I really liked it, despite the fact that I can barely relate to the characters at all. None of my friendships have ever been anything like these, I don't know people like this. But then, I've never understood people's need to relate to characters in order to enjoy a book or movie or whatever. I laughed, though, and I cringed. And Adam Scott and Lizzy Caplan should be in everything together forever (except she can't show up in Parks and Rec because that would mess up Ben and Leslie).

All that being said, I can totally understand why the people that don't like this movie feel that way, and I don't think I can even really defend the movie to them? Except the ones complaining about the drug use, because come the fuck on.


@Inconceivable! HOW AWESOME was that Adam Scott/Lizzy Caplan scene where he starts playing the song in his bedroom? Dear lord. I was like, ah yes, I had forgotten how great you guys were in Party Down, no wonder this moment is fucking crackling.


Watched this tonight, and enjoyed it! Not a perfect movie but better than most of the crap that's out there and intended for ladies these days, and fun.

Also: LOVED the dress Regan wore throughout the movie -- Kirsten Dunst is one of the few who could pul it off, but it looked fab on her.


great interview but i just hated this movie. the cast was outstanding so i had the highest hopes but it was just... miserable. the funny parts were not to funny to me and everyone's behavior as characters was disgusting. besides rebel wilson's character, this was a movie about a bunch of people i would do my best to steer clear of. i am not prudish, i am a party girl, so it wasn't the drugs or anything it was just... i don't know. a bunch of selfish, immature, morons making bad decisions at every turn. i mean, so was the hangover, but they were hilarious while doing it, this movie was just like... a train wreck.


I love a movie I can enjoy whilst simultaneously despising every one of the characters. This was one of these movies for me- I'm bummed to see it getting so much hate here!


@excitedheart It's the performance and the writing that counts, not the likability of the people in it. I believe that's how you should judge a movie. I think everything is justified except Becky's questionable connection with Katie and Gena. The movie is a bit cold and dark but really hilarious at the same time.

Just a thought. How can you dislike these characters when you've seen the reason why they are what they are right now? Doesn't that happen to you? Give me a break.


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