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Friday, June 22, 2012

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Ranked: Alexis Bledel's Boyfriends, Fictional or Otherwise

12. Howard Dawes (MM)
11. Pete Campbell (MM)
10. Dean Forester (GG)
9. Milo Ventimiglia (RL)
8. Tristan Dugray (GG)
7. Jesse Tuck (TE)
6. Jess Mariano (GG)
5. Kostos Dounas (SotTP)
4. John Paul (RL)
3. Frederick Aiken (TC)
2. Logan Huntzberger (GG)
1. Vincent Kartheiser (RL)

Discuss. Or not! It's a fairly niche interest.



297 Comments / Post A Comment

jessica testa

Logan over Jess??!!? ARE YOU LOOKING FOR CONTROVERSY, HAIRPIN?

The Hyperbolic Julia Set

@Nicole Cliffe TEAM JESS! But I'm pretty happy as long as Dean is way at the bottom.

backstagebethy

@jtes Jess is #1 in my heart, always and forever. Logan is, like, #12. Maybe #13.

Frederick Aiken! Love that.

I also enjoyed her FNL & OTH boyfs in Post Grad and The Good Guy.

Quinn A@twitter

@jessica testa Logan was pretty awful, but he and Rory did have chemistry. I hated him the first time around, but when I rewatched the series I was like "oh, okay. The sex was probably great."

Nicole Cliffe

If Rory is stealing yachts, you know she's experiencing some serious sexual healing.

jessica testa

@Nicole Cliffe What about Marty? Can we talk about Marty? Marty!

Rookie (not the magazine) (not that there's anything wrong with that)

@jessica testa OMG MARTY. love.

ugh, but then he dated Lucy or Olivia (I don't even know which was which. Does it even matter?)

knucklefish

@jessica testa Marty!!!! When he reappeared in the final season, I was like, "Yaaaaaay he will oust Logan at last!" And then he didn't. Ditto when Jess reappeared toward the end. God, I hate Logan.

Dorothea

@jessica testa cary on the good wife has totally improved my opinion of logan from gilmore girls. but jess is still #1.

travelmugs

@blahstudent TEAM JESS. WTF is this list?

youresmalltime

@jessica testa Logan is a buttfaced miscreant. DISAPPOINT.

bessbrowning

@jessica testa Agreed! Jess is a much better choice than Logan. He got so BLAH by the end of it.

josefinastrummer

@youresmalltime Yes! Logan was the worst! You know Rory and Jess got together after the series ended and she got off the election journalist bus.

maybe partying will help

Count me among those absolutely baffled at Logan Huntzberger's placement. There can only be one Boyfriend Named Logan Winner for ANYONE, and that is Logan Echolls.

Honorable mention to Logan Bruno.

fantod

JESS. Come on!

Sydney C

@maybe partying will help: Logan Echolls! Sigh...

josefinastrummer

@maybe partying will help Yeaa Logan! It would be like if there was a list of Veronica Mars' love interests and Duncan was above Logan. No. Way. We all know Weevil would be above Duncan and nothing even happened between those two. But the chemistry!

Es
Es

@jessica testa JESS all the way!

Es
Es

@josefinastrummer Oh, Weevil... :swoon:

maybe partying will help

@josefinastrummer

Weevil and Veronica is one ship I was really sad did not sail.

Regarding Rory tho: I don't like any of her boyfriends. Jess was hot like fire, sure, but a total prick. And the rest of them were just useless. She and Paris should have been ladyfriends, is what.

coupdefoudre

@josefinastrummer Great idea! Can we please get one of these for VM? I could sit here and re-live all the best Logan moments all day... (series ender when he punches out the mobbed up dude for Veronica while stupid Piz just sits there? O.M.G.)

Decca

@blahstudent Logan was a jackass, but Cary from The Good Wife has made me think of Logan fondly! His cute smirk! But yeah, Jess forever.

fwipsis

@jessica testa Hey guys remember when Jess pretty much TRIED TO RAPE RORY? I feel like people should make a bigger deal out of that. Just me?

iheartoxytocin

@maybe partying will help I've noticed that I always LOVE the surly, sarcastic, secretly-in-pain ones on shows wayyyyyyyy more than the ones who are supposed to come off as "good." Yet, irl, I generally date the good guys. Best of both worlds?

Living My Best Life Far Away from the Hairpin!

@coupdefoudre Piz is sooooooo horrible I can't.

Living My Best Life Far Away from the Hairpin!

@josefinastrummer Duncan : Veronica Mars :: Dean : Rory Gilmore. UGH.

thebestjasmine

@josefinastrummer Agreed, all of Rory's boyfriends were terrible. I mean yes, Jess should be ahead of Logan, who was an asshole from start to finish, but that's not saying much.

yeahsurefine

@Katzen-party You are a genius.

Living My Best Life Far Away from the Hairpin!

@yeahsurefine Got a perfect score on the TV analogies portion of the SAT, what can I say?

kingstitcher

@jessica testa Logan is essentially the same person as Lorelai, and Rory (and the viewers) seem to like her okay.

Scandyhoovian

@kingstitcher I was always of the mind that Logan was a great character on his own but an AWFUL boyfriend for Rory. That relationship went serious when it should have stayed flingsy, for sure.

I'm team Jess, though. He was a teenage prick, but that was part of the whole schtick, and why she told him to screw off when he came back for her in season 4. But it was obvious when he came back in season 6 or 7 (when she was in the clutches of Horrible Caricature Of Her Former Self writing) that he was one of the few side characters on that show who was allowed to grow up. And I think that Jess would have been great with Rory in the end, had the writers had the smarts to put them back together again.

knucklefish

@maybe partying will help . . . Will you marry me? Serious question.

autumng

@jessica testa Totally Team Logan. He was my favorite. But I also prefer Christopher and Lorelai and I'm sure most people wouldn't agree with that either.

Christopher & Lorelai
and
Logan & Rory
FOREEEEVEEERRRR

myrna.minkoff

@autumng I know this post is old as balls, but I came back to it hoping and praying someone had said this. I'm finally watching season 7 and Luke is kind of a huge dick! He really wasn't good enough for Lorelei.

cate marie@twitter

Jess! ohhhhh em gee. The 16 year old in me wants him to be no. 1.

hungrybee

@cate marie@twitter The 36 year old in me is in agreement. JESSSSSSSS!

Margaret Bristol

Kostos!!!!!!!

beeline96

@Margaret Bristol I had such a thing for him, as well as a burning desire for a handsome European man to whisk me away on his scooter.

redheaded&crazy

@Margaret Bristol as someone who has watched 0 episodes of gilmore girls, Kostos gets my vote as well.

Also, what does MM even stand for?

The Hyperbolic Julia Set

@redheaded&crazie Mad Men

sudden but inevitable betrayal

@redheaded&crazie Mad Men!

redheaded&crazy

@The Hyperbolic Julia Set I thought that might be it but I didn't realize she was on mad men. HAH.

ayee.

(I guess if I had read this list more closely I might recognize names like, Pete Campbell but anyway. I'm an idiot. News flash at 10)

Living My Best Life Far Away from the Hairpin!

@Margaret Bristol Kostos (taking your word for it on the spelling...) seemed kinda lame personality-wise but OMG what a freakin' hottie.

ms. alex

@Margaret Bristol Man, I was so in love with Kostos. He was lovely to behold.

cate marie@twitter

We can all agree Dean was the worst, riiiight??

meetapossum

@cate marie@twitter When he cheats on his wife with Rory? Arrrrrrggggggghhhhhhh

Atheist Watermelon

@meetapossum i never got that far in GG but WHAT?!?! HELLS NO

kingstitcher

@cate marie@twitter It's pretty unfair not to split S1 Dean from S2-and-beyond Dean, when they made him an illiterate rageball because only one of Rory's suitors at a time could love reading, too.

katiemcgillicuddy

@cate marie@twitter Rory would have been better off picking the douchebag that Emily set her up with who took her on a bar crawl at Yale and promptly abandoned her. Bar Crawl Douchebag > Dean.

katiemcgillicuddy

@katiemcgillicuddy Oh and! Who did she call after Bar Crawl Douchebag abandoned her? Dean. OF COURSE SHE DID. Motherfucker.

Team Bar Crawl Douchebag.

Living My Best Life Far Away from the Hairpin!

@katiemcgillicuddy OMG, wasn't the bar crawl douchebag the guy who played Duncan on Veronica Mars? Or am I thinking of a different bar crawl douchebag??

katiemcgillicuddy

@Katzen-party Note: I am new to commenting and somehow my reply to this ended up at the bottom of the page. I struggle.

Heather Mill@twitter

Finally, someone sides with me on Logan > Dean > Jess

likethestore

@Heather Mill@twitter I actually stopped watching when Jess came on the show, I disliked him so much.

terrific

@Heather Mill@twitter I hated both Dean and Jess equally. My placement would be Logan >>>>> Dean ≥ Jess. I'm SO HAPPY to find other Logan lovers because he is the best.

Fodforever

@Heather Mill@twitter Jess (and Logan, and Tristen...) were all asses at first. I will say that in one of the later seasons, she sees Jess again and he's published and has lived on his own in NYC for a while and he seems to have grown up a bit...

that said, pretty much every guy in GG is some level of asshat.

Except Luke! Luuuuuuuuuuuuke!!!!

Nicole Cliffe

But Luke is so surly! I feel like when surly people fall in love, they get nicer and it's endearing, but then after five years, they're just surly, right, and you're all "wait, wait! I was going to change you with my relentless positivity!"

Fodforever

@Nicole Cliffe Luke is really surly... I think I like surly? But he really mellows by the end! I stopped watching GG after like 3 seasons, but then ABC Family ran the entire series and I watched it to see what happened, and Luke really does settle down... which is why Lorelei (sp?) freaks out and goes and CHEATS on him to get back with Rory's dad!

So, Luuuuuuuuuuuuuuuke! :(

sarah.@twitter

@Nicole Cliffe, @Fodforever Surly Luke is my ideal man? I just swoon for sarcasm and a baseball hat, formative years spent watching Gilmore Girls has ruined me forever.

Living My Best Life Far Away from the Hairpin!

@sarah.@twitter Gurl, YES. I am so in love with Luke it is not even funny. Plaid shirt, crossed arms, diner apron...yeeeessss.

katiemcgillicuddy

@Katzen-party Yeah, when he crosses his arms...what even.

rosaline

@Fodforever I propose we call Luke "gruff." Then I don't feel so weird saying that I am in love with a surly TV character.

phlox

What about that terrible movie where she ended up dating Matt Saracen?

Gertrude

@phlox QB1 of my heart, boyfriend of my dreams.

apples and oranges

@phlox Or Rodrigo Santoro (the Brazilian guy from Love Actually and briefly Rory Gilmore's boyfriend in The Worst Movie I've Seen All Year). damn. I'd rank Matt Saracen above him, but still. The man is gorgeous.

Anne Helen Petersen

@kangerine THAT MOVIE IS HORRIBLE. Like straight-up, had to turn off the TV horrible. Embarrassing to the memory of Michael Keaton's career horrible. I thought it would just be bad, but it was offensively bad. I should've just turned off the sound and looked at Saracen, still the QB1 of my heart.

Anne Helen Petersen

@Anne Helen Petersen Which reminds me of that one glorious time when I did yoga with Matt Saracen SWEET JESUS

Rookie (not the magazine) (not that there's anything wrong with that)

@Anne Helen Petersen so, so terrible. but Matt Saracen.

And Jane Lynch surprisingly not playing a 100% quirky! character even though the movie tried SO hard to be quirky and charming.

olivebee

Wait wait wait. She is actually dating VK in real life???

And I never saw Post Grad, but Zach Gilford/Matt Saracen would be number one on MY list....for anything. Best friends, boyfriend, co-worker, teammate...anything.

WhiskeySour

@olivebee I'm going to admit I'm a little weirded out by the real life coupling. It was commented upon in Mad Men; they really do look quite similar and the facial similarities are pretty intense. Not to say they shouldn't do their thing, but whoa.

Fodforever

@WhiskeySour If they had babies, their eyes would be so blue and clear they would shine out like lighthouses across a stormy sea.

narwhalsandwich

@WhiskeySour I agree. Also, after I saw him in In Time (that fantastic Justin Timberlake vehicle) with bright red lips I just can't look at him the same way.
See: http://www.reellifewithjane.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/in-time-vincent-kartheiser-1.jpg

Bitterblue

ALL of her boyfriends on GG sucked! I was waiting for her to hook up with Paris. Or Lane. (To derail, can we talk about how HORRIBLY the writer's treated Lane? WTF! STILL pissed off about that. There aren't so many Asian-American actresses with fascinating characters on television that you can completely destroy the entire character arc of one of the most sympathetic!)

EllyHigginbottom

@Bitterblue I was just thinking this! Lane had the worst life, had to watch her friend date every handsome boy then go off to Yale and then got stuck in Stars Hollow with a narcissist and twin boys after the very first time she had sex.

phipsi

@Bitterblue Amen! She deserved so much better. What's up Amy S-P, write some acceptable boyfriends for once!

(OR MAYBE THE TRUE POINT OF AMY S-P IS THAT THERE ARE NO ACCEPTABLE BOYFRIENDS?!?!)

travelmugs

@phipsi Wasn't Amy S-P gone for Season 7? Explaining the terrible, terrible Lane arc. I got so mad that she was basically turning into a non-religious version of her mother at the end.

Bitterblue

@EllyHigginbottom Yeeeeeees. Holy shit did that whole debacle piss me off. Maybe I took it too personally because I too am a child of a crazy fundie and an insane Korean woman, but TRUST that I did not internalize the "marriage before fucking" bullshit. I just felt like Lane was being punished for something? But I could never figure out what! There was NO narrative coherence there. Gah.

travelmugs

@Bitterblue Even if she did internalize waiting until she was married, there are people who do that and manage to be sex-positive/not get pregnant on her honeymoons/wind up staying home with two infants while her narcissistic spouse ends up living her dream.

Poor, poor Lane.

phipsi

@travelmugs Oooh yeah, I forgot about that. Poor, poor Lane indeed.

teebs

@Bitterblue I am forever bitter about the way the writers treated Lane. She was always one of my favorite characters. Especially the way she was treated after marriage? That whole pregnant on the first try, sex is terrible, never having sex again, stuck in Stars Hollow forever thing? NOOOOOOOOOoooo.

terrific

@Bitterblue She should have stayed with Adam Brody. Adam Brody was her perfect mate.

The Hyperbolic Julia Set

@terrific YES! I was so sad he left for the OC. What kind of taste is that? You have LANE in Starshollow!

LipsticKiss

@Bitterblue Holy crap, yes! I LOVED GG, but what they did to Lane was inexcusable. Also, getting Sookie preggers AGAIN? What were they, bored?

teebs

@LipsticKiss
Actually with Sookie getting pregnant a second time, what happened was Melissa McCarthy was pregnant in real life, so they had to incorporate it into the show.

thebestjasmine

@teebs They didn't! She was a cook, they could easily put her behind tables and stoves and stuff. That pregnancy was terrible.

LipsticKiss

@thebestjasmine @teebs Didn't she get pregnant again after Jackson got the vasectomy? I remember getting really annoyed about that one ... but maybe i'm remembering wrong ;)

Mase Kambui@facebook

How is Logan #2? He was the worst. From GG Dean has to be the best. Poor Jess, so misunderstood.

Nicole Cliffe

@Mase Kambui@facebook Dean is a creeper, man.

Alice

@Mase Kambui@facebook She lost her virginity to Dean, and then he WENT HOME TO HIS WIFE. He is the worst, forever.

Nicole Cliffe

On an unrelated note, the dedicated GG rewatching that spawned this "post" also caused me to notice Lorelai having a date with Bella's dad from 'Twilight.' And her getting bitched out by Seth McFarlane.

travelmugs

@Nicole Cliffe I posted this lower on the thread, but there are SO MANY people who are famous now that had funny, small guest appearances. Abed, from Community, is an extra who works for the Yale Daily News, and I had the hardest time remembering that it wasn't actually Abed.

sam.i.am

@Nicole Cliffe Don't forget -- she dates JON HAMM. They go to a Bowie concert. And Rory and Jess get caught in a broken sprinkler system!

Chills

@Nicole Cliffe Thank you for validating my current GG rewatching! Such a guilty pleasure...
I watched the Jon hamm episode and was shocked-how did lorelai look past the hotness?!

carogriffin

@Nicole Cliffe I did the same rewatching recently, which was how I learned that Jackson is Ron Swanson's brother.

EDITED TO ADD: And that Abed worked for the Yale Daily News.

travelmugs

@carogriffin And the actor who plays Jackson is real life married to the woman who plays both the surly harpist and the grandma's eccentric stylist? I forget her IRL name, but she's most famous for being Ms. Swan on Mad TV.

kingstitcher

@Chills Because Jon Hamm's hair is weird without a pound of gel.

katiemcgillicuddy

@travelmugs Alex Borstein is her name. She was also originally cast as Sookie but had to drop out. And like, I'm sure she would have been fine, but obviously Melissa McCarthy 4eva.

katiemcgillicuddy

@sam.i.am AND the date sucksssss. You know in real life Jon Hamm and Lorelai Gilmore would only have awesome dates.

simalie

@travelmugs Late to the party but to me the actress-playing-the-surly-harpist's should clearly be most famous for playing Ms. Ungermeyer from Lizzie McGuire. No? Just me? I'm OK with that. I still love me some Lizzie McGuire.

salty

@simalie I think that kind of goes without saying? Like, obviously they didn't mention it because everyone silent adds "slash Ms Ungermeyer" whenever they say the name Alex Borstein? She should really stop acting now, because I don't really see how she could top that performance. True story: when I was in Rome, two of the girls staying in my hostel had come to the eternal city purely because of L McG, specifically, they wanted to see "The Lizzie McGuire Fountain." I love that movie as much as any sane woman, but when I realised they meant the fucking Trevi Fountain, a tiny little part of me died inside. Ms Ungermeyer would have sorted that shit right out.

EllyHigginbottom

I can't separate Vincent Kartheiser from Pete Campbell, so neither of them. Dean was so lame and while Jess had his flaws, I've always been Team Jess. Also, I'm just gonna say it, Lorelai should have just married Max.

Nicole Cliffe

Max was great! And she had one bad date with Jon Hamm.

Sundae

@Nicole Cliffe The Hamm date was hilarious. I rewatched this just recently and was elated to see him in there. Luke was a loveable idiot, but I'm pretty sure she only ended up with him just because he served her coffee, which weakened her decision making skills.

EllyHigginbottom

@Sundae I definitely have some love for Luke, but that whole April storyline just killed it for me. Max was dreamy, smart, funny, and a good Dad for Rory. You guys, I've watched this show way too many times.

werewolfbarmitzvah

@EllyHigginbottom I appreciate both Luke and Max, but what bewildered the bejesus out of me was that season when she dated Digger. Why, Lorelai, whyyyyyyy? He was the worst! He was at Logan Huntzberger levels of worst!

Sundae

@EllyHigginbottom Yeah and they wrote out Max without any really good reasons, I guess in a typically spontaneous Lorelai kind of way? I also found this disappointing. And the April plot frustrated me too, she was really unnecessary and Luke didn't do a super awesome job at handling all that (probably better than his efforts with Jess though)

travelmugs

@werewolfbarmitzvah Ha. Digger was the worst. But does anyone else remember the episode where she went on a date with JON HAMM? And he was basically the same character he played in 30 Rock and Bridesmaids. He was hot, so he didn't have to be interesting.

travelmugs

@werewolfbarmitzvah Also, in the weirder Lorelei romances: Nick Offerman. Ron Swanson himself played Jackson's weird hillbilly cousin who kept awkwardly hitting on her.

Sundae

@travelmugs Yeeeah that was super creepy and weird and come on Nick you're going to be a great Ron one day, step it up!

Living My Best Life Far Away from the Hairpin!

@travelmugs Didn't Max Perlich play Jackson's weird hillbilly cousin (Rune) who actually went on a date with Lorelei? Didn't Nick Offerman play, like, a friend of Rune's who thought she was "easy"? Or am I making that up?

travelmugs

@Katzen-party Rune, Jackson, and Nick Offerman's character were all supposed to be cousins, I think? But yes, the plot was that Rune told him she was "easy," so he kept trying to get her to come up to his room at the inn.

kingstitcher

@travelmugs I think Nick Offerman ("Bo"?) was supposed to be Jackson's brother.

"We are all here to serve the baby. Jackson. How are you serving the baby?"
"I could go get more balloons."
"Good. Bo. How are you serving the baby?"
"I could...help Jackson with balloons."

WWVMD

Team Jess! Remember in the last season when she runs into him at his book signing? The best.

What's TC stand for in #3? I can't figure it out.

backstagebethy

@WWVMD The Conspirator!

The Hyperbolic Julia Set

@WWVMD The Conspirator! I had to google it, but Alexis Bledel and James McAvoy!! Must watch soon!

HereKitty

@The Hyperbolic Julia Set It's a really good, underrated movie, but she's barely in it and is unbelievably wooden when she is. Robin Wright, on the other hand, is amazeballs.

backstagebethy

@HereKitty Yeah AB & Justin Long just felt super out of place in that movie.

Sundae

Logan, because Matt stayed absolutely smoking hot as he aged. He was a bit of a dick for sure, but much more palatable than bowl-cut Dean and catcher-in-the-diner Jess.

backstagebethy

@Sundae But he was just so bad for her! I mean, yes, Dean was bad for her too, and just bad in general at the end, but I loved that she and Jess, I guess, challenged each other? I don't know if that's the right word for it. But Logan was just terrible.

Sundae

@backstagebethy I guess I just found Jess so cliche moping teenager for the most part. All dark and brooding and too full of ~feelings~.

travelmugs

@Sundae BUT SEE SEASON 6 EPISODES 8 AND 18. He grew out of the faux-Holden Caulfield thing!

teebs

@Sundae Catcher in the Diner.

DEAD

Wrecking Ball Gown

@Sundae Agreed, Czuchry is smoking hot now! I actually did like Logan as a character on GG, but Matt's character Cary on The Good Wife is so much more awesome than Logan; somehow that makes him even hotter than he was on GG. He still gets to smirk a lot but it's not a righteous smirk, it's more amused and comes off less juiceboxy.

Heather@twitter

ohhh vincent kartheiser publicly discussed not having a toilet in his house until he "got around to it" or something.

i don't think his attractiveness/quirkiness could outweigh that...

applestoapples

@Heather@twitter Oh, he said he was joking about that but the reporter thought he was for real and published it.

Heather@twitter

@applestoapples argh, hoodwinked!

WhiskeySour

@Heather@twitter I think it's been established that he was joking in that interview Basically, his house was being renovated and he tried to spin it to be funny, but it was printed straight.
He still might be a super weirdo, but maybe not that kind of weirdo.

ETA: Beaten to the punch.

cosmia

@Heather@twitter IIRC, he was joking, he actually didn't have a toilet in his house but at the time he was majorly renovating and his house was basically torn apart.

applestoapples

@Heather@twitter I wanted to believe it, too.
But for really real, he doesn't drive a car and prefers to take the bus in Los Angeles. I don't know if that's a big deal or not.

cosmia

@applestoapples I don't drive a car and prefer to take the bus in Toronto (okay, well not "prefer", more like "gets super paranoid about driving"), so clearly we are meant for each other.

space opera

@applestoapples He takes the bus? That is great. Most LA folk are horrified by the bus system but I take it every day and always think I see a celebrity and then go "oh.. wait.." This changes EVERYTHING.

limnupon

@applestoapples I take public transportation in L.A. It's definitely an anomaly. BFF!

werewolfbarmitzvah

I despise Logan Huntzberger more than I have ever despised anyone in my lifetime. I want the revolution to come and Logan Huntzberger to have a sack thrown over his head and get dragged away to an indescribable doom.

I like Jess. He's got some problems, but I like him.

I am completely indifferent to Dean. He can get taken away to an indescribable doom, he can not get taken away to an indescribable doom, whichever.

travelmugs

@werewolfbarmitzvah YES. I just re-watched Season 7's bullshitty: "Oh, look, he has some depth. He got a job for HIMSELF." Not buying it. Logan is the worst.

phlox

@travelmugs I totally cheered when she didn't accept his proposal and took the carriage ride with Lorelei instead.

Living My Best Life Far Away from the Hairpin!

@werewolfbarmitzvah "I despise Logan Huntzberger more than I have ever despised anyone in my lifetime." Ha, yes, do not hold back on the Logan hate! He is the dictionary definition of "hellishly awful rich entitled douche" (I have a really specific dictionary).

bloofishbloo

@werewolfbarmitzvah I hated Jess more then I hated Logan. But..then take that with a grain of salt cos I got irritated with the story lines toward the end of the series and pretty much stopped watching on a regular basis.

Jess...was just such a gigantic shit. I really hated his character - he was so smarmy. I mean, he talks Rory into letting him drive the car the Dean built for her (which, come on, that was pretty awesome) and then wrecks it. Which causes her to break her arm. And ditches her. Ditches her! That's one shitty boyfriend. I hated that she kept going after him because he just kept ditching her.

Dean was a sad sack. First season Dean was kind of sweet and had that late-90s dreamboaty-ness going on. Teenage me gave him some passes for that. But after the whole "Dean married someone else omg" story line I kind of started hate him. And his issues! Gah, if you feel so insecure about your intelligence read a fucking book already. Take some classes. Jeeze.

boyofdestiny

Alexis Bledel was never on Gossip Girl, so I dunno what this "GG" business is.

parallel-lines

Vincent Kartheiser seems like he's kinda a creepy weirdo IRL too toohttp://www.citypages.com/2012-06-13/news/vincent-kartheiser-on-mad-men-s-pete-campbell/
Plus, not cute. Sorry. Just not. Is he a better person than Milo? TBD.

Daisy Razor

@parallel-lines Completely unsubstantiated hollywood gossip tells me that being a better person than Milo is probably not that difficult.

pallasathena

@Daisy Razor wasn't he dating Hayden Panettiere on Heroes when she was like, 16? And he was playing her uncle? (Not that that part really matters, but... bleh)

BoozinSusan

@parallel-lines It's quite likely he was just being sarcastic this entire interview, but the way it looks in print just seems to say "douche" all over it.

Wrecking Ball Gown

@parallel-lines I don't know, I'm coming around on VK's attractiveness. It helps to see him in real life (he shaves his hairline for Pete Campbell) and to hear him talking. Try this video (plus, Jon Hamm bowling! Hottt):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5M-iiIpzEfU

applestoapples

You forgot Leo, the nude life model from Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants 2 and possibly the hottest man to ever walk the earth. She dumped him to go back to Kostos, even after Kostos secretly married another lady without telling her.

toastandjam

@applestoapples Oh my gosh. Yes. Jesse Williams for the win!

Genghis Khat

@applestoapples Uuuuuuuunf. I've only ever read the books. CLEARLY I need to watch the fiiiiiilms.

katiethegreat

@applestoapples Oooh is he Avery from Grey's? Fictional worlds colliding! I've only seen the first film but I recently re-read all the sequels and Leo did sound like the hottest.

checkcheck

@katiethegreat That IS Avery from Grey's, the most beautiful man ever. Dem eyes & dem abs.

applestoapples

@katiethegreat Yep, it's Avery. In my book, he's perfection.

WWVMD

Wait, wait, wait. Pete Campbell and Rory Gilmore are dating IRL?! I feel really, really gross about that for some reason.

apples and oranges

@WWVMD That's so... it's such a Pete thing to do. Euh.

what what what are you doing

OK Nicole, this may be the only thing I've ever disagreed with you on, but I have THOUGHTS. Logan was an entitled little brat who took no responsibility for anything in his life. Dean, I'm on board with -- Dean was The Worst. Totally a "Nice Guy" (TM). Cheated on his wife, felt like Rory had no right to break up with him the first time, etc.

Now that I've gotten over my "True Life: I'm Attracted to Douchebags" phase, which may or may not have lasted 10 years, I can see that Jess was not, perhaps, the dream boat I always assumed he was at 13. However, he's definitely better than Logan.

And I agree with @parallel-lines who posted the City Pages story -- Vincent Kartheiser is totally a weirdo.

beezus.

@what what what are you doing I agree with everything here, also, I love your user name. LOOK AT YOUR LIFE, LOOK AT YOUR CHOICES.

cosmia

I, for one, am on board with Vincent Kartheiser being #1. He's weird, but accessibly weird, not scary-weird! Normal people are boring.

cosmia

@cosmia Also now I'm reading this City Pages article and like...I kind of love him more? Is that weird in of itself?

Megasus

@cosmia Also her bod is crazy I do not blame him for wanting to lock that down.

travelmugs

I also noticed that former Gilmore Girl boyfriends go on to play complete douchebags in their future. Case in point:

Jarad Padalecki (Dean): Thomas Kincaide
Matt Czuchry (Logan): Tucker Max

applestoapples

@travelmugs Chad Michael Murray (Tristan): himself

cecil hungry

@travelmugs But Dean is Sam Winchester in SUPERNATURAL, so he gets a lifetime pass from me. And Logan was in an ep of Veronica Mars, and is apparently really good on the GOOD WIFE. Sadly, Jess has terrible hair and starred in HEROES, so... :(

travelmugs

@cecil hungry I give Milo a bit of a pass, even though I hear he's terrible IRL. He was in a Rocky sequel that filmed down-the-street from where I used to work in a seedier part of North Philly, and just picturing him there made my heart warm.

Sundae

@travelmugs Matt is also Carey in The Good Wife (which I haven't watched a whole heap of but it's kind of Loganesque)

Princess Slayer

@travelmugs I have to forgive Matt Czuchry for the Tucker Max thing since I heard Tucker Max was furious about his casting because Czuchry was too nice to play him.

Living My Best Life Far Away from the Hairpin!

@applestoapples Chad Michael Murray is absolutely the worst ever in history. He was I think Rory's least believable love interest. I hated how the WB was trying super hard to make him "happen" and put him in every one of their shows before sticking him in One Tree Hill.

applestoapples

@Katzen-party Yeah, and cheated on Sophia Bush, first with Paris Hilton and then with a seventeen-year-old beauty queen.

Living My Best Life Far Away from the Hairpin!

@applestoapples Ugh, I forgot about that whole Paris Hilton thing. Horrifyinggggggggggg.

Wrecking Ball Gown

@Sundae His character on The Good Wife starts out a little Logan-esque but he gets over that quickly. He's pretty great (and I can't pass up a chance to post this clip):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y86A2_pYSYU

OwlOfDerision

I, um, I have the weirdest crush on Pete Campbell. As in, not even Vincent Kartheiser. ACTUAL Pete Campbell. What is WRONG with me???

That said, Michael Ginsberg is my real fictional* TV Mad Men boyfriend right now, so I'm sure the Pete thing will pass.

*let's not even start deconstructing that phrase.

cosmia

@OwlOfDerision omg before last season (because really, last season he was a horrible monster and I was finally turned off) I totally did too.

cosmia

@OwlOfDerision Also if it helps, Ginsberg's character is in part based off of a real-life guy whose name escapes me and was one of the first Jewish copywriters working in NYC?

Tam
Tam

@OwlOfDerision love love Peter Campbell too, totally and without a question. I know everybody hates him but I just can't, such a crush on him!

Wrecking Ball Gown

@OwlOfDerision I keep going through cycles where I love Pete Campbell, then I'm creeped out by him and feel bad for ever having loved him, then I read an interview with Vincent Kartheiser about his interpretation of Pete and I end up loving him again:

http://www.vulture.com/2012/06/mad-mens-vincent-kartheiser-on-petes-hairline.html

phipsi

My sister will have you know that Rory was never in a relationship with Tristan Dugray. He just hit on her all the time and they kissed only because she was emotionally distraught after her and Dean split after Dean professed his love to her and it freaked her out!

COME ON, YOU GUYSSSSSS

phipsi

@phipsi My sister is a preeminent GG Scholar. SHE KNOWS ALL THE PLOTS.

werewolfbarmitzvah

@phipsi I am of the opinion that Tristan and Logan Huntzberger are secretly the same person.

Bitterblue

@werewolfbarmitzvah Seriously though, I remember reading somewhere that they wanted Tristan to reappear at Yale but they couldn't get the actor, so they had Logan instead. Have no clue if this is true or not, but it totally sounds right!

Slutface

For some reason, I couldn't stand Rori and only watched for Lorelei, Lane, Paris and of course Emily.

lindackerite

@Slutface I was reading through just to say this if it hadn't already been said! Rory pissed me off all the time, which may explain why I liked her and Logan together in a "let's watch her burn" kind of way.

That may be overstating it and I might have said too much about my feelings for many former WB shows in general.

nogreeneggs

@Slutface You should watch Bunheads! Stupid name, but it's basically GG without Rory and if Lorelei was a Vegas show girl. Emily Gilmore is still fabulous.

Slutface

@nogreeneggs Of course I'm watching Bunheads. What kind of question is that?!

EllyHigginbottom

I take it all back. I'm on Team Dude Rory Had to Sit in a Draft with at the Restaurant. Urine mints.

kingstitcher

@EllyHigginbottom I'm on Team Dude in the Laundry Room Who Turned Rory Down (and Then Told People a Story about a Different Girl Who Was Stalking Him Which Rory Decided Was All about Her).

Wrecking Ball Gown

@EllyHigginbottom @kingstitcher One thing I'm definitely not is Team Logan's Creepy Friend Who Took Rory to the Tarantino Party.

marz

I love that Jess is ranked higher than Milo Ventimiglia. No way dude could live up to his Gilmore Girls character.

apples and oranges

What about Naked Guy? So close, Rory, so close to not dating yet another douchebag.

what what what are you doing

@kangerine YES! I was going to post that in my comment above -- I believe you mean Marty, who was great and then for some reason got a girlfriend and it was awful.

backstagebethy

@kangerine Ahhh yeah, what was his name? Mikey? Mason?

Ahhh Marty, I was just not F5ing fast enough.

travelmugs

@what what what are you doing Eh, Marty, King of the Friend Zone. I liked him at first, but then he got into the whole "I'm nice to you, so I deserve all of the love & sex," territory. Promptly killed any Marty-affection on my part.

what what what are you doing

@travelmugs yeah, he did get annoying in the end. I'm just gonna blame that on the post-Amy Sherman Palladino writers. Ah, what could have been.

Living My Best Life Far Away from the Hairpin!

@kangerine Yeah, I don't understand how anyone could say she should have gone out with Marty. His whole arc felt kind of true to life to me--Rory never seemed to be romantically interested in him, and it was just one of those things that can happen where you like someone as a friend but they wanna be your bf/gf and then it's sort of awkward and uncomfortable and you stop hanging out. And even though I thought it was insane that they didn't tell his new girlfriend that they knew each other, I thought most of the onus for that one was on Marty (he was the one who pretended he didn't know Rory) and I could see how the situation could get out of hand.

Jeez, I have a lot of ~feelings~ on the topic of GG, I guess.

Quinn A@twitter

Okay, this settles it: I am definitely rewatching all seven seasons of Gilmore Girls. Starting tonight.

travelmugs

@Quinn A@twitter I took on this task two months ago and finished on Monday! It's scary how you get sucked into the "one more episode" trap.

MKP@twitter

@Quinn A@twitter I did this a year ago during a job search. It's very helpful for kickstarting a re-adolescence :P Now if I only I had some rich grandparents...

travelmugs

@MKP@twitter Marry into the Huntzberger family?

kingstitcher

@Quinn A@twitter I do this every time I move, and when I was pregnant. It's soothing during transitions.

Piefingers@twitter

Jess is the only person in the world I have ever given a free pass to re: liking The Fountainhead. Also by the end whenever Logan called Rory "Ace", it felt like he was mocking her in some way. Fuck all the Huntzbergers.

travelmugs

@Piefingers@twitter He was 16. You're allowed to like The Fountainhead when you're 16.

Piefingers@twitter

@travelmugs His soul was approx. 44 and angry. I did always love to see him being angst-y with Luke and how Luke reacted to him. It's the first time you get to see Luke and Lorelai in parenting mode together.

teebs

@Piefingers@twitter
My favorite of Jess though was when she went and saw him in Philly and he was all grown up and mature and he had a bookstore and.... Jess :,)

kingstitcher

@Piefingers@twitter Poor Jess, seriously. Just as smart as Rory, but raised without Lorelai's work ethic and independence or the Gilmores' connections and money. His dad abandoned him as a baby, his mom's a flake who at best chose her boyfriends over him and I think at worst is written as some kind of addict or abused person who maybe let her kid get abused? And then ships him off to his cranky uncle who lives in Mayberry? Of course he's angry and screwed up, and doesn't respect authority. And then his girlfriend who has all of her private school ever paid for and Can Do No Wrong gets into Harvard, Princeton, and Yale, while he has to repeat senior year of high school, and his dad drops back into his life? I'd leave without saying a word to anyone, too.

Not saying I'd want to date him, or have my daughter date him, but I empathize with him.

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@kingstitcher Bang-on Jess defense! Right on, woman!

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@kingstitcher Only tangentially related, but how weird was it that Jess's stepmom (in that one episode where he goes to his dad's and I guess they thought they might spin him off into his own show that never materialized) was played by Sherilyn Fenn who then played April's mom? Did you think we wouldn't notice, guys???

kingstitcher

@Katzen-party Yeah. And both that episode and the April storyline sucked. So if Sherilyn Fenn shows up on Bunheads, I'll know to stop caring about the show.

kingstitcher

@Katzen-party I feel it's a sign of maturity that during this GG rewatch I'm less "I hate that kid" and more "Dude, poor kid."

Rookie (not the magazine) (not that there's anything wrong with that)

@Katzen-party I guess not, but, like, BE MORE OBVIOUS about it, right?

I guess they just felt bad because The Jess Spinoff never happened.

Piefingers@twitter

Related: Does anyone want to start a separate thread about Bunheads?

apples and oranges

@Piefingers@twitter I watched the first episode and could not get past being SUPER WEIRDED OUT that she married this stalker dude while she was drunk(?), didn't seem to remember getting married or WANT to get married, and for some reason, everything is all peachy keen?!?! WHAT

Piefingers@twitter

@kangerine The young girl characters are really boring and also not great actors. If you had plausibility issues with the pilot, then the second episode is really going to bug you. If the town is really so small and everyone knows everyone's business, then Hubbell's accident should be a WAY bigger deal. It's throwing me to see Kelly Bishop in essentially the same setting but then being forced to accept she is like an eccentric collector of junk and all spiritually-realized. She can only be Emily Gilmore.

josefinastrummer

@Piefingers@twitter Or the mom in Dirty Dancing!

yeahsurefine

@Piefingers@twitter OMG! just started this below. At least they (SPOILER) killed off Cameron in the pilot in a car crash. I for one enjoyed that touch.

Been There Done That

@Piefingers@twitter It's like Emily Gilmore has been reincarnated as Miss Patty, but I kind of love it? And ditto about the teen actors. They're all so bland I have a hard time remembering who is who.

beezus.

@Been There Done That Whoa. NOW I'm in.

Been There Done That

@dahlface I read in an interview with Amy Sherman-Palladino that this character is much closer to Kelly Bishop's actual personality. As if I didn't want to meet her someday already.

beezus.

@Been There Done That Oh, AND, I saw "Anything Goes" when I was in NY for work in December, and it of course starred Sutton Foster, but guess who else was in the cast? Emily Bishop! I wonder if that's where the connection came from.

Also, we're all aware that Sutton Foster had mini arc on "Flight of the Conchords" as Bret's girlfriend, right? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jr-K6si92hE

Brit? Like Brittany?

It all goes to show you, people who hold signs go on to hold many things.

Fitzsimmons

@Piefingers@twitter To me Bunheads is like GG if all the characters were horrible, no one was funny, and Stars Hollow was boring instead of quirky. It's causing me serious inner turmoil because of my love for Sutton Foster.

katiemcgillicuddy

@Been There Done That I can't believe you just gave me a reason to watch even 5 minutes of this show. Thank you...and also, goddamnit.

toastandjam

This may be the best hairpin thread ever.

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@toastandjam I am seriously IN HEAVEN sitting here studying this thread for the last hour and doing absolutely NO work. Best Friday morning activity. Thanks, everyone!

MKP@twitter

Obviously this interest is far from niche :)
TEAM JESS 4EVA. Logan -> Blearghsauce. Dean -> worst. Pete -> Also the worst because they are BOTH cheating. Ugh. I felt like she was so miscast on Mad Men.

katiemcgillicuddy

@MKP@twitter She's so...awkward. Basically in everything that she does. Something happened to Rory/Alexis Bledel when Rory went to college and she was never the same.

teebs

Dean is the worst. (I really hate Dean and wanted to put and exclamation point there, but my "one" key is stuck because I spilled iced coffee on my keyboard yesterday.)

toastandjam

@teebs Here you go: Dean is the worst!
He really is. Boring, a cheater, entitled, and... not that cute. (There. I said it.)

teebs

@toastandjam Thank you.
In my opinion, Dean was downright emotionally abusive. He would constantly blackmail and manipulate Rory if she didn't behave the way he felt a girlfriend should act. Dean! The Worst!
(yes i'm copy/pasting an exclamation point. I need it, man.)

Living My Best Life Far Away from the Hairpin!

@toastandjam Cosigned! I always thought Dean was the boringest and the ugliest (the fucking middle part in his hair--augh!) of Rory's boyfriends. And as @teebs said, pretty manipulative! Ugh. Yet...I would put up from bad behavior from Jess because he is a stone cold FOX...(and I'm the worst...)

Chills

@teebs And this is why i can't watch Dean in GG without being reminded of my emotionally blackmailing first boyfriend... ugh! The worst!

rebeccakpalermo

I detested all of Rory's boyfriends, and was on Team Paris throughout the run of the series.

Also, I found all of Lorelei's boyfriends totally lacking. Except for Chris Eigeman, who is my favorite person in every single thing he has ever been in.

yeahsurefine

@rebeccakpalermo OMG Digger!!! I totally forgot about Digger (although scanning above posts, apparently nobody else did.

rebeccakpalermo

I loved him! Though I may be the only member of that club. His dog? He trained him to move a little to the left? He was a freak, like all of that actor's characters. Love.

yeahsurefine

@rebeccakpalermo I cannot deny the genius that is Whit Stillman (Barcelona! now added to Netflix queue) but cannot side with you on this one. Max. Medina. MAXMEDINA!!!!!

teebs

AAhh This post. I have a lot of Gilmore Girls feelings still.
I always wished Rory had hooked up with Marty, but the Logan :( But then Marty came back and he sucked so bad and Krysten Ritter kept calling him ~boyfriend, which just.. UGH.

yeahsurefine

@teebs YES. I am still traumatized by the "boyfriend" thing. Poor Marty. Krysten Ritter just took him and ruined him. There is no way she watched Duck Soup with him, that's for sure.

teebs

Can we rank Lorelai's boyfriends? Fictional and real life?
Who are they all?

Max Medina, Christopher (ugh), Jason, Luke, Chandler Bing, Jason Ritter, Aiden from SatC when he was on Parenthood...

Piefingers@twitter

@teebs Peter Krause will win all.

yeahsurefine

@Piefingers@twitter MaxMedinaMaxMedinaMaxMedina!! Although if Lorelai married him, the series would have been a lot shorter. But couldn't he have come back around at the 11th hour?

cecil hungry

@teebs CHANDLER BING? When did this happen?

travelmugs

@cecil hungry You forgot Jerry Seinfeld! She's the girl who ranks people she likes based on her speed dial!

lindackerite

@Piefingers@twitter The greatness of Peter Krause is woefully underappreciated, IMO.

Atheist Watermelon

@aheapingspoonful <3 me some Peter Krause. Have you seen The Lost Room...?? Kind of weirdly amazing sci-fi.

lindackerite

@LittleBookofCalm No! But I have written it down for later since that all sounds like exactly what I need on this super hot day.

My Krause-appreciation came from Sports Night -- but oddly, years after my initial viewing? I was more of a Dan Rydell/Josh Charles person than Casey McCall/Peter Krause one for a long time, but then it flipped. Although Josh Charles as Dan Rydell types are still my weakness in real life, despite the fact it would never work out.

autumng

@teebs

8. Digger (gross)
7. Luke (boring)
6. Mark Cyr - Jason Ritter (Shave that nasty thing nobody calls facial hair)
5. Matthew Perry
4. Peter Krause (still kind of creeps me out because it's her brother; not really but that's how i see it.)
3. Seth Holt - John Corbett (hot hot hot hot - aiden)
2. Max Medina
1. Christopher, Christopher, Christopher (I really believe he changed and became a better person. The person. I still hate that they didn't end up together.

Norrey

YES! Finally, someone who agrees. Jess was, I don't know, a huge jerk? He stood her up on her graduation day and moved away without even saying goodbye. Which, ladies, I think we can all agree, is a jerk move of the first order. Also, he was constantly a little prick to Lorelai. Also, only jerks pursue people who are in other relationships. I hated Dean, but come on, if you like a lady, tell her, I guess, but doing the passive aggressive flirty thing is super childish. On an unrelated note, as much as I love Alexis Bledel, I always find myself annoyed by her hilariously bad posture.

yeahsurefine

I must ask- ladies, any views on Bunheads?

Princess Slayer

@yeahsurefine Sutton Foster: fabulous! Kelly Bishop: amazing! HOLY SHIT ELLEN GREENE! I miss Alan Ruck already.

yeahsurefine

@Princess Slayer I know Ellen Greene right?!?!? Re: Alan Ruck- me too! Although I did enjoy that Cameron died in a car crash- karmic theatrical comeuppance for destroying his dad's car in Ferris Bueller. AND! Mindy is Truly! Took me a second to place her. I'm holding out hope on this one.

nogreeneggs

@yeahsurefine I love it! I really dislike the name though. I'm in love with Sutton Foster's drunk face.

Princess Slayer

@yeahsurefine Yes Mindy! I'm sorry, are there children on this show? I'm only going to pay equal attention to the kids when the snobby ballerina falls in love with a stable boy.

yeahsurefine

@Princess Slayer AS SHE WISHES

Princess Slayer

@yeahsurefine It's ABC family! It's inevitable! We have to get some star-crossed lovin' in there!

yeahsurefine

@Princess Slayer so, so, so true. I am now holding out hope for a princess bride-type plotline with the one bitchy ballerina (whatever her name is).

beezus.

@nogreeneggs Yes, what is up with the name? Terrible, terrible. Let's change it to Sutton Foster's Drunk Face.

Princess Slayer

FINALLY! FINALLY! Someone who agrees with me about Logan!

wealhtheow

@Princess Slayer YES! I know he was a smarmy, entitled rich kid, but at least the show *knew* he was smarmy and entitled, and that those are actually flaws. Instead of presenting Jess's selfish crankiness or Dean's self-pitying sadsackness like they were positive traits. Also, I liked that dating Logan made Rory (and the show, to some extent) face up to the fact that Rory is incredibly privileged and (by the last few seasons) pretty entitled herself.

But most of all I just like Matt Czuchry and the way he played Logan. Really self-aware, really sure of himself, smart and not trobuled by it, sex-positive, adventurous...just all around fun.

Been There Done That

Ahhhh, I'm hours late, but I'm support the Jess > Logan > Everyone Else > Dean way of thinking.

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@Been There Done That THUMBS UP x A MILLION.

Been There Done That

Also! I had no idea Alexis and Vincent were together, so I guess that's the one new thing I learned today.

ceeemcee

I hate Jess with the FIRE OF A THOUSAND SUNS FOREVER. He just VANISHED. DISAPPEARED. TWICE. TWO TIMES. And he was mean to Luke! I don't care how nice he was in season 6. Unforgivable.

j.cruel

@ceeemcee: not to mention the shitty near-date-rape-thing before he disappeared the second time! Dude sucked.

Oh, squiggles

Vincent Kartheiser is #1? really?

I have no idea what he is like in real life, but his characters constantly piss me off.

Connor, Angel's son, was an awful ungrateful brat.

Pete Campbell is just awful. Grrr, he makes me mad.

Oh, squiggles

And this is making me remember how awful Rory's boyfriends were. I can't even try to rank them, they all kind of sucked.

mayonegg

Post Grad! Matt Saracen!!! That movie sucked but MATT SARACEN

Rookie (not the magazine) (not that there's anything wrong with that)

@mayonegg I was coming here to say exactly that.

and maybe mention the Brazilian dude that no one liked on Lost, but mostly MATT SARACEN.

TinyNinjas

A) Young Jess was a douche, and just because he was an angsty youth doesn't mean he was allowed to treat Rory the way he did (Rage issues! Leaving without saying a word! Calling and saying nothing! Demanding she run away with him!)

B)Older Jess was too good for Rory. I imagine his character met some kind of super cool chick with well designed tattoos and they spent their weekends at art gallery openings.

C) Logan wasn't great, but by the end of the series Rory wasn't much of a prize either, so long as we're all in agreement that Dean is the WORST!

Living My Best Life Far Away from the Hairpin!

@TinyNinjas I know, I love that the post is tagged with "DEAN IS THE WORST."

kingstitcher

Let me just say, I am ambivalent about seasons 4-7, but I cannot help but love a show that built to this epic fight.

katiemcgillicuddy

@kingstitcher I can't even begin to explain how much I echo this sentiment.

"I tried to timeshare a plane, it is in no way even close to the same thing!"

katiemcgillicuddy

@Katzen-party Jesus, If it was, I'm pretty sure the universe will delete itself.

Living My Best Life Far Away from the Hairpin!

@katiemcgillicuddy I just looked at IMDB for confirmation, and it was! In fact, this is the very first item on the page of the dude who played Duncan/Bar Crawl Douchebag (cut and pasted; weird underscores around series title theirs): Guest appearance on _Gilmore Girls_ was supposed to become a recurring role and he was going to become a love interest for Rory in the show's 5th season. When Veronica Mars got picked up, he was no longer available, so the writers recast Rory's new love interest with Matt Czuchry as Logan Huntzberger.

Universe deleted.

Rookie (not the magazine) (not that there's anything wrong with that)

um... I kind of love dopey, tall, teenage first-season Dean who stocks fruit and made Rory a bracelet.

But no, I do not love complainy Dean, married another girl Dean, angry Dean, or any other type of Dean.
But yes, I love Sam Winchester.
And Dean Winchester.
And now I'm going to get their names mixed up again when I bust out Supernatural season 4.

wealhtheow

@Rookie Heh, did you ever see that episode where the Winchesters are investigating mysterious murders happening on the CW lot, and they go through the Stars Hollow set? And "Sam Winchester" is looking around all twitchily, like he's afraid of being recognized? Hilarity.

twocommonwealths

When I watched the first time around (circa age 16) I was soooo pro-Dean. But then I grew up, learned how the world work, became sexual active, etc. Dean totally falls into that false-but-often-touted wisdom that a lady benefits most from a manfriend who is waaay more into her than she into he. I guess as a sophomore in high school I dug that. I think I totally missed that he cheated on his wife to f Rory the first time I watched (maybe mom fast-forwarded through the salacious bits somehow?), so now I'm totally not down with that.

Seriously though, WHO among you wouldn't diddle Logan? Yeah, yeah, Jess is the archetypal bad boy who actually works at Wal-Mart and has a soft spot deep down, but I'm not feelin' it. I know this is off the Alexis Bledel list, but both as 16 year old me and 24 year old me, I WOULD FUCK THE SHIT OUT OF LUKE DANES. Boyyyy, brew me a coffee, hand me a donut, and let's GET IT ON. He even collected all the raincoats in Stars Hallow to make Rory a tent. HOW CUTE IS THAT?!

Scandyhoovian

Dean is the WORST. Cheating on his wife to sleep with Rory? Ditching her because her life has rich people in it and it makes him uncomfortable? I mean, he was bad enough in seasons 1 and 2 when he was territorial and possessive and demanding and constantly making Rory's brilliance into something she should feel guilty about, but add the adultery and the inferiority complex and I just can't wrap my head around the fact that there are people that like him.

*waves Team Jess flag*

knucklefish

My first reaction was, in fact, SHE'S DATING VINCENT KARTHEISER IRL OH MY GAWD! Girlfriend just got a little cooler in my book. But there aren't an tabloid pics of them together. (Don't worry, I checked for you!)

myshone

@yrouttasight If you look above, a couple of us Boston-area 'pinners might check it out together later this month! låna

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