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Wednesday, June 27, 2012

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A Better Book Club

This post is welcomely sponsored (again) by Skinny Cow.

Look, it's hard enough just convincing people to go out. You can't hastily arrange a box of Franzia, a bowl of Pirate's Booty, and eight copies of The Help and hope everything will just come together.

First, why do people join book clubs?

a) To say they are in a book club.
b) To enjoy the benefits of having a social life without having to stand around with a glass of lukewarm rosé wishing they had a date and/or their dress had pockets.
c) To stave off the existential horror of their brief lives.
d) To talk about books with their friends.

You need, essentially, to bombard your book club with the appearance of cleverness while masking your fundamental shallowness. The easiest way to achieve this? Classy book, secretly-less-classy paired film. And then themed snacks.

"What's your book club reading, Amy?"
"Oh, Kim Philby's autobiography. He was one of the Cambridge Five? A Soviet spy? Fascinating stuff, like a real-life John Le Carré."
"Oh, wow! Gosh. My book club just finished that Stephenie Meyer book that ISN'T about vampires, so you seem like a very intelligent person."

Then, right, you get to your book club, and the hostess is screening the 1984 classic Another Country, which is sort of about boys who will become the Cambridge Five, but mostly about an incredibly young Rupert Everett and Colin Firth and Cary Elwes having sexual tension together. And then you eat little cucumber sandwiches and drink Pimm's Cups.

It's really easy, when you think about it. I mean, just continuing on the same theme, you can read Billy Budd, Sailor, which is by a Famous Author, and then rent Beau Travail, which is a French art film loosely based on said novel consisting entirely of buff, shirtless members of the French Foreign Legion working out, and then eventually dancing to "Rhythm of the Night." With that, you should probably serve really gloppy lobster rolls, or croque monsieurs, if you decide to go French with it.

I'm going to give you one more concept, and then you're encouraged to go forth and make it happen.

Book: The Man-Eaters of Tsavo
Movie: The Ghost and the Darkness
Snacks: Man. Or, um, a bunch of different kebabs, and you refuse to tell your guests what kind of meats are involved.

We've made some great progress here today. And, when in doubt, you can always opt for the Ultimate Book/Movie/Snack Triumvirate: Fried. Green. Tomatoes.

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184 Comments / Post A Comment

PistolPackinMama

A Room With A View
A Room With A View
Chestnut Paste
Jam Tarts
Bread and Butter
Tea
Red Wine, From Tuscany

Remove the wine and chestnuts, add cucumber sandwiches sans cucumber have a debt collector knock during the showing of the movie and maybe some gin and choose:

The Importance of Being Earnest
The Importance of Being Earnest
-or-
Wilde, depending on how depressed you want to be.

maybe partying will help

@PistolPackinMama

Book: Among the Bohemians
Movie: Carrington
Get Your Drank On: opal hush, of course
Noms: copy the doable portions of Mrs Dalloway's party menu?

Hmm.

Book: Saturday
Film: Match Point
Get Your Drank On: something with gin
Noms: fish stew!
Bonus Entertainment: pretentious poetry readings

Beericle

@PistolPackinMama
Um, my bookclub read Saturday, and served gin, and fish stew. Maybe you should be in our bookclub?

Lenora Jane

@maybe partying will help "Among the Bohemians" was such a good read!

maybe partying will help

@Beericle

AWE.SOME. Book club mind-synergy. :B

@Lenora Jane

Wasn't it? It was so fascinating and full of juice. I went on a Bloomsbury binge after reading it.

Lenora Jane

@maybe partying will help Somehow just saw this, but in case you also somehow just see it: wrote a grad seminar paper on Bloomsbury and sexual identity basically because I was in the middle of reading AtB when my proposal for the seminar came due.

sarah girl

Can we also talk about terrible book clubs in here?

I went to one for the first time last week - we spent a grand total of 5 minutes halfheartedly talking about the book, then about two hours mainly listening to the host humblebrag about her adventures in drunkenness. It pissed me off, because I had actually read and loved the book and had things to say, but I was new in the group and most everyone else was openly "meh" about the book, and ugh...

fondue with cheddar

@Sarah H. Maybe they want to be in a book club just so they can tell people they're in a book club.

wharrgarbl

@Sarah H. My mother-in-law regales us with tales of her book club, which she is actively sabotaging because she is a terrible person, every time she comes to visit. It's like listening to the Grinch talk about stealing Christmas, without the redemption.

sarah girl

@jen325 That's kind of what I suspect. I live in DC and the club is made up of mainly young Hill staffers (should have been my first warning); I think it's just a loose excuse to find new restaurants at which they can meet and get drunk.

fondue with cheddar

@jen325 Also, maybe instead of skimming and reading the comments I should read the entire post before commenting. I just failed at reading a post about reading. :/

fondue with cheddar

@Sarah H. Then why don't they make a "drinking at restaurants" club? That sounds like a winner to me.

julia

@Sarah H. Hi, there is a DC Pinners book club. Last month we read Alison Bechdel's Are You My Mother. And we really did talk about it and it was great. July is In Zanesville.

sarah girl

@julia I'm already signed up for the July meeting, yaaaay!!! I'm super excited, especially after how disappointing the other book club ended up.

New Commenter Name

@Sarah H.
Yeah, that does sound like a terrible book club. You should find a different one. I found my book club on meetup.com and have no complaints. I know it could be beginners luck, it's the first book club I've ever joined, but there is none of the bad stuff people mostly complain about.

Keep looking, is what I'm saying. You can't be the only person in your area who is interested in actually reading and discussing books.

New Commenter Name

@Sarah H.
So feel free to disregard my previous comment as it looks like you found an awesome new book club!

TheBourneApproximation

@wharrgarbl I have to ask: how does one sabotage a book club?

Hellcat

@TheBourneApproximation YES! I read wharrgarbl's post and became immediately intrigued. And laughed a little (for which I'm sorry because it sounds like it's not funny to you--but I couldn't help it!).

wharrgarbl

@TheBourneApproximation Deliberately selecting books to piss off all the other members when it's your turn to pick a title. "Provocative" questions about the books other people selected. One time she watched the movie instead of reading the book and then refused to admit it. (Apparently refusing to admit it was justified because it's not like the other members could really tell, they were just being mean.) I think the only reason she's gotten away with any of it instead of just getting chucked out is that she comes across as pretty ditzy a lot of the time, so it's easy to attribute to stupidity what's actually malice.

@Hellcat It's funny in a complete trainwreck sort of way. I feel sorry for her club-mates, and she's a terrible person, but it's like watching somebody engage in Pentagon Wars kind of tactics about lawn-mowing standards in a homeowner's association.

TheBourneApproximation

@wharrgarbl Devious!

Jinxie

@wharrgarbl I have no doubts that your mother is as terrible as you say, but I have to admit that, having been guilt-tripped into joining the truly awful book club at my work, I'm sorely tempted to take a page out of MotherGarbl's book.

wharrgarbl

@Jinxie Mother-in-law. If my mom joined a book club and anyone tried to mess with it, I have no doubt a "THIS IS SPARTAAAAAA!" situation would ensue, because my mom loves books like the internet loves Tom Hiddleston.

If you're into sabotaging an already-terrible club, though, may I suggest: if there's a movie, watch and then talk about just the movie, find and read a different book with a very similar title and insist on talking about that book, come up with really asinine interpretations of everybody's motives based on spurious symbolic evidence (clothing/eye color, for instance), and seize upon any pretext in the book to talk about some personal anecdote ("It's really great how the characters are always getting coffee, because I once had a job as a barista for a few weeks in college.").

wharrgarbl

I think there also might be an e) which involves people wanting to do something more erudite about a book they really loved than post the Kristen Bell sloth video in relation to it on the internet.

HMSBeagle

I love my book club. We end up reading a lot of dystopian novels and making fondue. It's not themed, per se, but I will say that eating cheese/chocolate fondue takes the edge off of the Apocalypse.

sarah girl

@heliotropegerbil8 OMG you guys have to read The Age of Miracles next. I started the book two nights ago and literally DID NOT MOVE FROM MY SEAT until I finished it. Soooo good, so terrifying.

Derbel McDillet

@heliotropegerbil8 Dystopian novels, cheese, and chocolate? This is pretty much my ideal anything, ever.

Sam I am

@heliotropegerbil8 Sounds like a pretty great book club (love dystopian lit...and fondue)!

OhMarie

@heliotropegerbil8 Ahhh, this sounds like the greatest.

travelmugs

@Sarah H. I've heard good things about "Age of Miracles," but my library doesn't have it in yet!

stonefruit

@travelmugs I'm 103 of 103 holds on first available copy. HOLY CRAP WHAT IS THIS BOOK.

HMSBeagle

@Sarah H. Oh, good! The description mentions "for fans of Margaret Atwood". Sold. Our first book was Oryx and Crake. Thanks, I'll put it on my list!

sarah girl

@heliotropegerbil8 Sure! It doesn't delve into social issues the same way that Margaret Atwood does, but it has a similar "oh shit what if this DID happen??" and underlying sense of creeping dread. It's also a kind of beautiful coming-of-age piece about a middle school girl who's being left behind by her peers, even in the midst of the world falling apart. Loved it!

muffalutta

@heliotropegerbil8 I go to an awesome one that is post-apocalyptic, but we do a lot of dystopian to shake things up. It's hosted after-hours in a bookstore, by the man who owns it, and it gives me the most wonderful Mixed Up Files feeling. And he gives us beer!

htzetter

@heliotropegerbil8 Hello, a bit of an off-chance, but if you enjoy dystopian books, you might like one I've just published: The Children of the City (available on Amazon for $0.99 / £0.99). Would love to hear if you like it

Euglena

Seattle 'Pinners have been book-clubbing some. We're gaining steam. Also, one of our books was a sci-fi/historical fiction/romance novel. So yeah, we're having fun.

slammysosa

@Euglena Title please? I NEED TO READ THAT.

sudden but inevitable betrayal

@Euglena Yes, title please??? (Outlander?)

Liana M Veksler@twitter

@Euglena Seattle pinner book club? I'm in!

Miss Maszkerádi

Guys, we're missing the point. The Hairpin Book Club has to be reading ONCE BURNED. Because Prince of Darkness. And reasons. And maybe we can exorcise the demon of the giant abs--er, ads that keep popping up distractingly on this site.

aphrabean

@CountessMaritza I will not lie, I've been hoping for someone else to suggest this. And then do it. And then post it here so I can read about it without reading the book itself.

redheaded&crazy

@CountessMaritza Oh, I actually am reading Once Burned and I really need somebody to discuss it with so please. join me on the Darkness side. We've got really good abs.

spiraldawn

@redheaded&crazie I read it. What would you like to discuss? He has very nice clothes.

Verity

@CountessMaritza Whenever I see the advert, my brain automatically fills in "They fight crime!" after reading the "She's [thing I can't remember], he's [thing I can't remember], together ...". I am always disappointed.

Megasus

@redheaded&crazie Oooh I think we should start a Toronto Book Club Pinup where we only read sexy supernatural romances, and then read/act out the funniest parts.

Miss Maszkerádi

@Verity She's a witch, he's Vlad the Impaler. Fighting crime would....actually make sense.

Miss Maszkerádi

@CountessMaritza Also i'm really perplexed by the sexy Vlad the Impaler thing. This book is far from the first time that topic has come up. I mean, I've met plenty of (*cough* descendants of) Wallachian nobles who are pretty fine, but by all accounts Vlad himself was kind of pasty, had beady eyes and a big beak nose. I'm spending too much time thinking about this.

redheaded&crazy

@Megano! oh my god I am in for this, let's pick a first book!

as if anybody could turn down "Dramatic Narration of Erotic Literature"

rianne marie

@redheaded&crazie I will join this book club! I don't live in toronto yet but I will soon. And I have always dreamed of being in a book club. (seriously)

Megasus

@rianne marie omg yes!!

redheaded&crazy

@Megano! it may be missing the supernatural aspect but I believe Nicole has provided us with a strong contender for our first pick.

Megasus

@redheaded&crazie I don't think it HAS to be supernatural. It couldbe like, delightful, smutty trash of any genre!

maybe partying will help

I like my branch of the Forever YA book club. We talk about the book, whatever it is, and other books we've been reading, gossip, have brunch. It's nice and chill.

WhiskeySour

@maybe partying will help Ahh! I'm sorry ahead of time that this is a tiny bit creepy, but you're in Ohio, right? I'm going to be moving to Ohio in the next couple of months and I'm kind of super nervous about it, but more importantly, there is a Forever YA book club based in that area?!

maybe partying will help

@WhiskeySour

It's not creepy! (me trawling Hairpin continuously for more Cleveland Pinners might be a little creepy) Yeah, I'm in the Cleve area and I think there's a Columbus FYA book club too. They have a master list on the website somewhere...

WhiskeySour

@maybe partying will help We're moving to Akron (job transfer) but an hour or whatever drive seems doable, especially for books, gossip, and brunch.

maybe partying will help

@WhiskeySour

Awesome! We only meet once a month (usually the last Sunday) and the location moves around, so sometimes we're closer to Akron/outlying Cleve areas. Next month's book is Howl's Moving Castle and I am excite. I love that book and the movie. :D

Inconceivable!

@maybe partying will help

I'm in an FYA bookclub also, and we have a good time. We always end up on Harry Potter somehow, no matter what the book is. I'm missing Howl's Moving Castle and I'm super bummed about it.

anachronistique

Boston Hairpin book club tomorrow! I have Thoughts about Swamplandia!. (Spoiler: I got so sick of that stupid exclamation point.)

SarahP

@anachronistique Oh SHOOT it's tomorrow?! For some reason I had in my head it was much later. WELP, I won't be there this month. Have fun, guys!

many things do not fly

@anachronistique There is a Boston Hairpin book club??? I am moving to Boston in September...how do I get in on this?

mangosara

@anachronistique aaaaah I was just about to ask if there was a Boston one! how did I miss this? also, how do I get on the list? put me on the LIIIIST

I swear I'm not a creep

TheLetterL

@anachronistique A Boston Hairpin book club, you say?

SarahP

@Everyone asking about the Boston book club: I'm pretty sure you can just reply to the Boston Hairpin Google group asking to be on the book club list.

anachronistique

@all Oh god, I am so not in charge of this at all, tomorrow is my first meeting. I just gave my email address to @boyofdestiny at a Pinup and he added me to the list.

mangosara

@SarahP could you link to the Google Group? I am apparently deficient today.

SarahP

@mangosara It's blocked on my work computer, so I can't link you to it, but if you go to the top of this page and click on "hairpin meetups," find the (or any) Boston thread, and reply to it asking about the book club, I'm sure someone will add you to the list.

fictitious

@anachronistique I am in two bookclubs, my young adult bookclub which is my "serious" bookclub, and the Boston Hairpin bookclub which is the "drunk" bookclub. We're doing it right.

Nutmeg

@anachronistique I LOVE Swamplandia! and I am kind of glad that I couldn't get anyone to cover my shift tonight so I don't have to hear that everyone hates it?

Also I didn't reread it, so I would have to say, "I remember liking this part! My book is still on hold at the library!"

(but really I am bummed I can't make it)

PatatasBravas

@anachronistique AHHHHHHHHH Swamplandia! I wanted it to all be magical realism so hard, and then it wasn't, and then I cried.

SarahP

The Boston Hairpin bookclub once read Watchmen as its book, and one 'Pinner (I forgot who it was, sorry!) brought smiley face french fries with a dribble of ketchup on each one. Brilliant.

AnalogMetronome

@SarahP Is there a Boston Hairpin bookclub facebook group or something of that ilk? I am moving to Boston in August and will have no friends and would love to join y'all. (Oh shit, I'm going to have to stop saying "y'all" when I move to Boston, aren't I?)

SarahP

@MademoiselleML You don't have to stop saying y'all! There are so many transplants in Boston that your y'all will fit right in. See my response above to the Boston Hairpin Book Club question.

anachronistique

@MademoiselleML I'm a born-and-raised Yankee and I use y'all because it is so goddamned useful, though I probably sound totally wrong when I say it.

beeline96

@MademoiselleML KEEP SAYING Y'ALL but don't think we're making fun of you if we say it, too.

Spice&Snails&PuppyDogTails

I want to come to Boston book club, and I will say y'all to ALL y'all! Is it too late to jump in for tomorrow?

isitisabel

@anachronistique Ever since I've started re-learning German I have to fight the urge to use y'all so much, because that's how I translate "ihr" (2nd-person plural pronoun) in my head. And since I'm from Minnesota and live most of the year in New York, I feel super self-conscious whenever I slip and do say it.

sudden but inevitable betrayal

My friends and I do a sci-fi book club. We started just reading Hugo winners, but now we've opened it up to other awards. And we do themed snacks! But it's sort of on hold for the summer because only one person (...me) has finished May's selection.

TheBourneApproximation

@sudden but inevitable betrayal Oo oo, which books and what has been good? Speaking as some one who needs some good sci fi books to read...

sudden but inevitable betrayal

@TheBourneApproximation Oh boy! Umm...the one that everyone is ignoring is Red Mars, which I liked a lot. We also read Spin recently and that was good, although the ending made me furious until I realized it's part of a trilogy. :) What else, what else...The Gods Themselves was interesting. Ender's Game/Speaker for the Dead (although I had read those before and didn't like them as much as the first time). The Snow Queen! Yiddish Policemen's Union was great. The City & The City. We started off with Windup Girl, which I liked but other Pinners seem to unanimously hate it so YMMV.

TheBourneApproximation

@sudden but inevitable betrayal Daaaaang, I guess I really should get around to reading the Mars trilogy at some point. Should read The City and the City too, but I just started The Scar, so I'll probably be all Mievilled out soon. Thanks for the list - there's a lot of stuff there that i've been meaning to read but haven't go around to!

sudden but inevitable betrayal

@TheBourneApproximation I read very very little sci-fi so it's nice getting to read a huge spectrum of classics and new stuff and great books and not so great books. The only one I haven't been able to finish was The Child Garden (apologies if that's, like, your favorite book).

TheGenYgirl

Does anyone else wish there were a book equivalent of IMDb message boards? I like going on after seeing a movie and seeing what the going conversation is (except not on current movies which typically have threads like "Stupid, hipster trash", "The Avengers is a way better movie than this", and "Wes Anderson is a hack"), but wish so hard I could just go to a site where there is the equivalent of the David Lynch fans on IMDb going at it ad nauseam doing the very same for Pynchon or Joyce.

sarah girl

@TheGenYgirl Maybe Goodreads? Every now and then Amazon will have messageboard threads for books (generally really popular ones) but they are usually staggeringly stupid.

travelmugs

@TheGenYgirl Goodreads! Join it! There's a Hairpin group!

maybe partying will help

@travelmugs

I didn't know there was a Hairpin GR group! I must go find it.

SarahP

@maybe partying will help I didn't know that either! Off I go!

travelmugs

@SarahP It's not too active right now. Hopefully we'll get some new members and some new discussions going.

The Hyperbolic Julia Set

@travelmugs WHAT???? You just made my day!

sophi

@TheGenYgirl Yay, I just joined the group! I always am wishing I knew more active people on goodreads, so this is excellent.

redonion

@travelmugs Joined! Hairpinners have the best book recommendations/discussions.

aubrey!

@travelmugs I am not even on Goodreads, but I'm joining right now.

emm_gee

@travelmugs I had no idea! Joined!
I used to hate the idea of book clubs having only experienced the work one where the books were always The Guernsey Potato Pie thing or similar awfulness and I felt I had to be polite because a colleague chose it. But now I go to the Post Apocalyptic Book Club (via Meetup) which is brilliant and everyone says exactly what they think and the people are interesting. I'm going to look for a YA one too I think.

peahen

@travelmugs I just joined too! Thanks for the tip!

charlesbois

I loooove my bookclub. When it was my turn to host, I picked Daisy Fay and the Miracle Man (aka Coming Attractions) by Fannie Flagg, and I served a southern picnic (cold fried chicken, black eyed pea salad, sweet potatoes).

sarah girl

@charlesbois The first third or so of that book has some of the funniest passages I have read in my entire life. I love it so much!

fondue with cheddar

Their products are tasty and all, but is anyone else creeped out by this sponsor's mascot? It disturbs me enough to keep me from buying it.

Mods: Please delete this comment if you feel it might endanger future advertising! (Of course, one could say I'm providing them with valuable customer feedback, so who knows?)

melis

@jen325 hahahahahaha "mods"

melis

Agreed, though, inasmuch as the sexy cow has dead eyes.

fondue with cheddar

@melis Yeah, I know...I wasn't going to use the word "mods" but I left it because I couldn't think of a better word to use in its place. It gets the point across, anyway.

I never noticed the dead eyes! I'm more creeped out by the quasi-human body shape and lipstick (lipstick on animals is always creepy unless you're Bugs Bunny).

maybe partying will help

@jen325

I find it a little more silly than creepy...like, cows aren't supposed to be skinny. Isn't there some Bible story about that?

melis

@jen325 "Nicole"

melis

@maybe partying will help

And Pharaoh said unto Joseph, I have dreamed a dream, and there is none that can interpret it: and I have heard say of thee, that thou canst understand a dream to interpret it.

And Joseph answered Pharaoh, saying, It is not in me: God shall give Pharaoh an answer of peace.

And Pharaoh said unto Joseph, In my dream, behold, I stood upon the bank of the river: And, behold, there came up out of the river seven kine, fatfleshed and well favored; and they fed in a meadow: And, behold, seven other kine came up after them, poor and very ill favored and leanfleshed, such as I never saw in all the land of Egypt for badness: And the lean and the ill favored kine did eat up the first seven fat kine: And when they had eaten them up, it could not be known that they had eaten them; but they were still ill favored, as at the beginning. So I awoke. And I saw in my dream, and, behold, seven ears came up in one stalk, full and good: And, behold, seven ears, withered, thin, and blasted with the east wind, sprung up after them: And the thin ears devoured the seven good ears: and I told this unto the magicians; but there was none that could declare it to me.

And Joseph said unto Pharaoh, The dream of Pharaoh is one: God hath shewed Pharaoh what he is about to do. His new Dreamy Clusters are bite-sized chewy clusters of creamy caramel and crispy pieces covered with rich chocolate. At 120 calories, you can always say yes to indulgence.

maybe partying will help

@melis

Bless you, melis. Bless you.

fondue with cheddar

@melis Wow, you're making me want to go out and buy some Dreamy Clusters. Maybe I can take them out of the package and put them in a freezer bag.

But I just remembered that my freezer is broken, so I'm just going to go ahead and tell myself it's a fictional product that you made up so I won't have to be sad.

melis

Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their [freezers], and went forth to meet the bridegroom. And five of them were wise, and five were foolish. They that were foolish took no [freezer] with them: But the wise took [freezers] with them.

While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept. And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him. Then all those virgins arose, and readied their [freezers]. And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your [freezers]; for ours are gone out. But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves.

And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut. Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Skinny Cow, open to us. But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not. Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of the Skinny Cow cometh.

Megasus

@jen325 It's true, no farmer in his right mind would be showing off that malnourished cow. I think you would get arrested.

fondue with cheddar

@Megano! Not only is it malnourished, but it's also missing several ribs and probably three of its stomachs.

Pocket Witch

I wish more skirts and dresses had pockets. I always say I could split the side seam and put in a pocket, but truth is I'm too lazy.

fondue with cheddar

@comedy_of_customs Pockets work so much better in skirts and dresses than they do in pants! Except cargo pants.

the angry little raincloud

@jen325 I pretty much only buy dresses with pockets these days. (As in, I wear only dresses. Not that I only buy dresses with pockets, which is a true statement, but I ONLY buy dresses with pockets.)

Seam-splitting and the like sounds hard. I would salute anyone who could do that.

Alixana

A plug for the Chicago Hairpin Feminist Book Club! We are reading Judith Butler's Gender Trouble for July and meeting on July 29th at 4 PM at Eva's Cafe in Old Town. Join us!

aphrabean

@Alixana REALLY. I am very interested in this.

Alixana

@aphrabean Yes, really! Please come!

In related Chicago news, I believe there is drinking happening tomorrow night? There's info on the Google 'pinup group.

darklingplain

@Alixana Oh man, that sounds like an awesome book club! How are you guys getting on with Judith Butler (I respect her ideas but her prose makes me want to rip out my hair)?

Alixana

@darklingplain I don't know about everyone else, but I tend to start the book about a week before the meeting, so ... thus far, Judith Butler and I have no problems?

darklingplain

@Alixana Ah, that'll teach me to not really look at dates. Well, have fun with her when you start--like I said, her ideas are very interesting but her prose is dense at best.

Punk-assBookJockey

@Alixana I am also very interested! Both in the book and the meeting of other hairpin types!

thisisunclear

@Alixana Yay!! I can go to this one AND Gender Trouble is on my for-reals summer reading list!

thebestjasmine

All of these Hairpin bookclubs make me want an SF/Oakland book club! Or is there already one and I don't know about it?

Alixana

@thebestjasmine Well, I am leaving Chicago in August and moving to SF so ... if there's not one yet, we can start one!

stonefruit

@thebestjasmine IN.

hcopperm

@thebestjasmine I am in favor of this!

melis

I feel like I would get really excited about this, and then fail to show up at every single meeting with increasingly implausible excuses so I apologize in advance for my behavior to everyone everywhere at all times sorry I'm like this.

lisma

@thebestjasmine let's do it.

thebestjasmine

@melis WE ALREADY KNEW THAT, MELIS.

redheaded&crazy

@thebestjasmine I think it would be worth letting her join just to hear the excuses though.

melis

IF IT HELPS IT'S A PROFOUNDLY UNSATISFYING KIND OF PERSON TO BE SO IF THAT HELPS I DUNNO

stonefruit

@redheaded&crazie Oooohhh, we could record them and see which ones repeat and somehow represent them graphically? Like, how many involve fire?

/nerd

paper bag princess

@thebestjasmine I want in, too!

the roughest toughest frail

@thebestjasmine I second (eighth) this motion!

Jinxie

@thebestjasmine I second (ninth?) this motion...in theory. But for some reason, despite the fact that I love books and reading books and I really love spending time with folks who like the same stuff I like and enjoy discussing said stuff, I really, really hate book clubs. Granted my one experience with a book club was at work and the coworker who ran it only wanted to read, like, popular best sellers you can always find at airport bookstores and no one understood why I kept going on about Jane Eyre and delightfully awful YA fiction. So I quit going. Maybe y'all can convince me that book clubs aren't inherently awful?

Jinxie

@Jinxie Also, dang, there are a lot of awesome 'Pinners in my neck of the woods. I really need to nut up and start going to local Pin Ups so I can admire you guys in person.

thebestjasmine

@Jinxie Book clubs are awesome, if you get good people! I had one that I adored, but then people moved away and it sort of fizzled. You get to talk about the book with other book lovers (it's key that the people are book lovers), and say if you loved it or hated it (there are usually some of each!) and why. It's like the best parts of English class except that you're not being graded. And I love talking about YA fiction!

thebestjasmine

@all Okay people, I set us up a Google group, come join! I think this is the right link but if not, I called it SF East Bay Pin Book Club, so search for that and join and suggest a book. Maybe our first meeting can be in August so we have time to pick a book and all read?

MSChelsea

@thebestjasmine

I'm moving to SF from NYC in July--just joined the book group!

WhatA_Name

@thebestjasmine Ahhh, I had to de-lurk for this. Bookclub! YA fiction! I just graduated and have time to read fun books! I'm so in for this. I signed up for the Google Groups... let me know what I can do to, you know, remove any vestiges of creepiness that may linger due to my recently shed lurker status.

hellomynameis

is there a NYC club? my book club is slowly dwindling away, plus everyone else reads much more slowly than i do, so i feel like i need to be in another one so i can meet people to talk about books more regularly.

City_Dater

@hellomynameis

There is a thread about a newly forming book club on the NYC Hairpinners Facebook page. I am interested as well but haven't done anything about chiming in on it myself yet, because it seems like everyone else is a)25ish and b) in Brooklyn and interested in staying there, and neither of these things describe me.

the little c

@hellomynameis I'm an extremely new 'pinner who already attends a book club, but YES I'd love to form an NYC club.

the angry little raincloud

@City_Dater I am neither 25 nor in Brooklyn (I'm also NOT on Facebook!), but I do live in NYC, and would be interested in a book club.

I have this habit of reading something and emailing all my friends, "oh my god! [blah blah blah] changed my life," and since none of my friends have read this book, they're like, "Oh. How nice for you." So I think I'm book club material?

sarah girl

@the angry little raincloud Ha, I do this on Facebook! It's mostly met with radio silence.

City_Dater

@the angry little raincloud

Ohhhhh...Perhaps a post on the Google Group listserve will yield others like ourselves? (If you aren't on there yet, please do join)

the angry little raincloud

@City_Dater What is this Google Group listserve of which you speak!?!? God, I live under a rock.

the angry little raincloud

@Sarah H. It's probably a good thing I'm not on Facebook, because I imagine most of what I might post there would be met with utter blankness. Kind of like my posts on Twitter. Sigh.

coreykins

@all Yes! We are forming an NYC Book Club. Join the Facebook group! We'll also post the info to the Google Group, for nonmembers.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/nychairpinners/

It's not relegated strictly to Brooklyn and definitely not just 25 year olds! We're reading Super Sad True Love Story for starters, which is dystopian and wonderful. We plan to meet sometime in the middle of July...

tiny bookbot

Kim Philby's autobiography would be like a real-life John le Carre novel because in real life, Kim Philby ended John le Carre's intelligence career by leaking his identity to the Soviets! Dun dun dun!

And this is why the traitor in Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy is based on Philby.

tiny bookbot

@tiny bookbot Also, I just can't do a bookclub, or rather, I am in one already and it is called graduate school and I'll never escape.

We do watch some trashy movies, though.

Es
Es

@tiny bookbot I can't do book clubs either. I had enough talking about literature during university to last me a lifetime - it just kills books dead for me now to discuss them in any more depth than 'liked it' or 'gave me rage'. I bloody loved My Silent War though - picked it up in a charity shop and was totally hooked.

Lucienne

@tiny bookbot You could do several meetings organized around the Cambridge Five. And the miniseries is extra trashy, way trashier than Another Country so it would be perfect for pairing with, like, The Untouchable.

Tuna Surprise

Anyone want to join my London book club? Right now it's just me. BUT, I did belong to a fabulous book club in New York so I'm hoping to recreate the magic here.

Alice

@Tuna Surprise I've been wanting to join a book club for ages! (Also, are you coming to our Pinup on Friday???)

Tuna Surprise

@Alice
There's a pinup? Arrrgh. I'm out of town this weekend for the first time since I moved to London. But next time I'm there! I have no friends. I'm getting ready to pay people to keep me company.

martinipie

@Tuna Surprise YES I DO I DO YES.

martinipie

@Tuna Surprise Also oh my god pinup?! I need London fun aaaaa!

Alice

@martinipie @Tuna Surprise Yes! We have a facebook group for planning and whatnot, and you should both join. http://www.facebook.com/groups/295781653770999/

Also, let's make a book club!

El Grande Fluffio

@Tuna Surprise I would. I've been buying all my books at charity shops (5 for £2.50! ) and could stand to expand my reading list. @Alice where is pinup news? My friend in NYC has been telling me to find a London pinup.

frigwiggin

I love my book club, but it's been at a standstill the last couple of months, which is crummy. I even texted the chick who picked the book this time and she never got back to me! :( Le sigh. We had been doing so well for the first year--my friend from college invited me to be in a book club in Berkeley with her and some of her high school friends, and we were reading YA books and short stories and making things based on them (I made everybody a mix CD based on St. Lucy's Home For Girls Raised By Wolves!) and we had delicious potluck food and fun times even though two of our members tend not to read and just distract everyone else, but then one member moved away, and then one of the non-readers picked The Help back in like March or April, and here we are. Womp-womp.

sudden but inevitable betrayal

I'm thinking of starting a romance novel book club where all we read are trashy bodice-rippers. Actually, let's just say this is definitely happening.

joie

@sudden but inevitable betrayal I would so join that book club.

Verity

You could also watch Cambridge Spies! Not a film, not that lacking in class, but still great. It made me adore Anthony Blunt.

Inconceivable!

Is there a Minneapolis/St Paul Hairpin book club by chance?

Nebraska Jones

@Inconceivable! Seconded on this wondering.

cecil hungry

I'm in a book club that actually works pretty well. It was started by a girl who wanted to find new things to read, but who wasn't a big reader (this is most of the book club, although there are a few of us English majors thrown in there as well). We've been going for about a year and choose our books by election. I'm kind of annoyed because our next book is (SIGH) Shades of Grey, but the argument is that everyone wants to have read it so they can have definitive things to complain about it. But I'm afraid someone in the book club will actually LIKE it, and then I will have to leave forever. Also now I have to read SoG. On the other hand, we all just managed to get through Virginia Woolf's Orlando, so some credit is deserved I guess. Oh well.

sophi

A few weeks ago I decided that I wanted to form a book club of former English majors who want to read really trashy literature and then talk about it using their literary analysis skills. I think it sounds fun!

martinipie

@sophi I would do this also. In fact I kind of already do, in my own head.

Amphora

I would love to join a book club in Chicago, but there doesn't seem to be much in the way of info at the library/local bookstores.

My parents have been in their book club for over 30 years, they're like a family. They even went on a big group trip to Tuscany a few years ago. Their meetings are about half talking about the book (usually something decent off the NYT bestseller list) and the other half drinking and eating cake. I want that.

Megasus

@Amphora I also want this!

vunder

@Amphora That beats mine, which has been happily active for 9.5 years. 10 meetings a year, steady membership, overall awesomeness.

Amphora

@Megano! Let's take a page from Max Fischer and start a Cake and Books club!

vunder, here's to 20 more!

Megasus

It's true, if you brought a date to a book club, it would be fucking weird.

Lucienne

Oh no, I had to work and missed my chance to talk about my crush Grégoire Colin (who is really so good, you guys) (not just to look at) (although definitely also to look at).

It pales in comparison to my intellectual crush on Claire Denis. CLAIRE. I want to beeee you, because presumably then I would understand J'ai pas sommeil. Really, what happened there.

jilt

Are there any Orange County Hairpin bookclubs? Or even LA or San Diego? I tried one I found on Meetup, but the host was much more interested in discussing herself than The Help.

RationalHatter

@jilt I would be interested in an OC Hairpin bookclub! Should I perhaps advertise on the Pinup boards...?

carolita

I recently joined a book club because I thought I needed to do more "lady" things. It's very sweet, most everyone there has had a bunion operation this year, one after the other. I almost feel obliged to join in, but my bunions aren't bugging me yet. There's only women there, which I like a lot. I was invited by a friend I reunited with on FB after we lost touch in our teens -- she went to a different high school. So I get to see my old friend, as well. We all generally start talking about the book, then gradually sideline into subjects like bedbugs, bunions, food, whatever. All very friendly and not at all high-brow. We just read "The Crying Tree," which I hated, but thought translated into Spanish would make a great Telemundo telenovella or miniseries called "El Arbolo que Llore."

One thing I find intriguing about it, as a freelance/self-employed person, is that this is the only time some of us see each other during the year. It's like a little social ritual. So, even though I was feeling a little under the weather, I made myself go, and then felt really good afterwards. I don't have many social rituals, and it's nice to have this one.

I have to admit when I first joined the club, I was sort of hoping it would turn out to be like the book club in Portlandia, but even though it isn't, I like it very much. Some very nice ladies!

Boog

Not sure if this was mentioned but Tampa book club?

DangerDangerDanger

I'm a big fan of our not-really-a-book club in which we read some pertinent article (e.g. All the Single Ladies, whatever is happening in the New Yorker) and then discuss over cocktails and jazz for a few hours. It's nice because you can do it on short notice and it make for a fun double or triple date.

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