Monday, March 12, 2012


"I haven’t spoken to my mother or father in over a year."

"It’s really cool. They just started making it and not many people have one yet. It does all sorts of stuff and can fit in my pocket, but it can also get bigger than that if I want it to. Plus it’s made by a company I trust to put out things that will make me happy."
River Clegg is ready to enjoy the new iPad.

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Am I the only one who not only doesn't have an iPad, but doesn't really want one? I don't quite get the appeal. (Then again, my 45 minute commute does not involve public transportation so I can't read on the trip, AND I am a hard-copy book nerd 4 lyfe.)

The Lady of Shalott

@The Everpresent Wordsnatcher Nah, I'm totally with you. BOTH my parents have ipads and they are totally obsessed with them, but whenever I try to use them I just...can't? It's too hard for me! I have no need for an ipad, really.

And I don't want an ereader because frankly, I am not kind to my books. They get dropped in my bags, dropped on the floor (by accident!!!), spilled on with water/pop/tea/tomato sauce/chocolate, crunched against stuff in my bags, sat on while on the couch, accidentally left behind on planes/buses/trains/school desks, lent out to people who are also thoughtless, dropped in snow, dropped in mud, and about ten thousand other things. I would destroy an ereader so fast.


@The Lady of Shalott maybe my problem is that since i already have an ereader, a tablet has no further use for me?

I've played around with my dad's ipad, it's cool and all but i spend a lot of time doing things like commenting on the hairpin, and i find typing on tablets irritatingly slow.

I also scored a playbook recently (one of FIVE that RIM has managed to sell!) and I was into that cuz i can hook it up with my blackberry and type that way and I can type pretty fast on my bb. but I dunno. I just prefer my laptop.

I guess it's fine if you're just flipping through photos or stuff.

I do not belong in a post-pc world. :'(


@The Everpresent Wordsnatcher I don't have one either, because I am a poor. I do want one though, but only so I can get magazines on it and then won't have a magazine pile in my apartment that is as tall as I am. Also, out of the ereaders I have used, this one was the best for stuff with images. I was kind of unimpressed with the vox and kindle fire when I got to play with some in class.


@Megan Patterson@facebook hmmmm i kind of see the magazine slant but i only get one magazine and i like to read it in hard copy.

also, I question river's assertion that an ipad will fit in his pocket.

P.S. Please don't hate me

@The Everpresent Wordsnatcher
It's one more thing to get robbed for on the train! So, looking at it another way, it's great that robbers have obvious targets who aren't me!


@redheaded&crazy "Pocket"="man purse"


@P.S. Please don't hate me YEEEEEEEES. If there's one thing I'm reluctant to invest in, it's a fragile, costly device that acts as a beacon for muggers! However, even as a luddite, I'm finally starting to understand the appeal of the Kindle. Whenever I'm reading a book the size of a cinderblock and want to bring it with me on the go and it weighs TOO TOO MUCH to lug around all day, I'm all, "Daaaaaaaag. This is why people get e-readers."


@werewolfbarmitzvah this is exactly why i love my ereader!


@werewolfbarmitzvah Only times I will ever concede the usefulness of ereaders: large and heavy books (Game of Throoooooooones, I swear Dance With Dragons weighed at least eight pounds), and travel (I ran out of Hunger Games on a trip recently and had no other reading material. Shoulda known better.)


@redheaded&crazy I get like....7


@The Everpresent Wordsnatcher You are not alone. I have no desire for an iPad or iPhone or anything that only intensifies the need to constantly be on the Internet. I get incredibly irritated by people who are on their electronic devices more than necessary (which is, at this point, most people). I'm also of the mindset that these devices are just creating a future of manner-less people who don't know how to interact with the real world. I officially sound like an octogenarian, but I enjoy enjoying things.


@The Everpresent Wordsnatcher Nope, I don't have one either and I don't have any interest in owning one. I like books! And I feel like there are too many screens in my life already, why add another?


@The Lady of Shalott The reasons you don't want an eReader are the same reasons I want nothing electronic that is small, portable, and smart. Almost everything I own has been dropped in snow and mud puddles.


@Megan Patterson@facebook clearly i need to change my lifestyle to be more tablet-compatible. Must subscribe to more things!

@The Everpresent Wordsnatcher pffft "only times" those are like, all the times! then again, since you're lucky enough not to have a public transportation commute, maybe not. for me though, it's pretty much a given that I'm either reading a big would-be-unwieldly book, or travelling, or both.

<3 u koboie


@redheaded&crazy i can see that my pro-kobo stance does NOT belong in this thread.

i will return to my previous and appropriate anti-tablet grinchiness.

grrr tablets. grrrr apple! grrr leave me and my dell alone

Tragically Ludicrous

@redheaded&crazy yeah. I love my Kindle, and it's been great for class (no more printing out PDFs!), but as I have that, and it's tiny and light and has 2 weeks of battery life, I'm not sure what I'd do with an iPad. It's not like I'm going to be able to write a paper on it.

Of course, if someone gave me one, I'm not going to object to that.


@The Everpresent Wordsnatcher Yes, this is exactly why I have one. Although disappointingly, many of my huge heavy hardcover books I hated to lug around were nonfiction, and at least on Amazon ebooks seem to be very much more for novels. Or anyway, more for novels than for really distressing books about racism. Luckily (luckily?) since politics are so incredibly depressing right now, having an iPad full of Agatha Christie novels so I can finish one and just start the next one without even looking up is exactly what I want.

Also: library ebooks! When your time is up, they take them away from you so you can't hold onto them forever like a jerk just because you keep forgetting to return them, which is what I always did with physical library books.


@themmases i fucking love library ebooks. more importantly than the jerky thing, you can't rack up like $10 in late fees! (ten. whole. dollars!!!)


@The Everpresent Wordsnatcher My SO and I have an ipad just because it was a gift. He loves it because he can dick around online while I'm watching RuPaul's Drag Race (or another show he is less than interested in), or bring it with him instead of a laptop when he's going out of town for a weekend. But I use it pretty much for playing Pictureka and for pulling up recipes in the kitchen. I think iPads are kind of just a weird in-between device between a smartphone and a laptop. 99% of the things I want to do can be done on a phone or a laptop perfectly well, I kind of think a middle-sized device is overkill. It can be convenient, but I'd never actually buy one and I wouldn't really care if it broke down tomorrow.

ETA: Maybe it could be alright if you planned on reading on it, but for that use I think an older Kindle with e-ink is a much better idea, if you plan on reading more than 20 minutes at a time. I've tried to read on the ipad and it hurt and went a lot slower than the Kindle.


@The Everpresent Wordsnatcher Game of Thrones was actually the tipping point that caused my husband and me to buy e-readers. Holy cinderblocks, Batman!


@KeLynn I have a Gen 1 iPad. I like it for watching TV in bed. Nothing is better for that. But I've had it for less than 2 years and it isn't working all that well anymore. The internet is shocking slow. I also found that, yes, it is lighter than a laptop, but it's still not THAT light. So I'm basically just going to let it die and no more iPads for me. That being said, just yesterday I ordered an iPod touch to "replace" it, because I do love the apps.


loveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee it@y


This article really resonates with me. I got an iPhone over the weekend, and it sure has made me happy.

fuck fuck fuck

i don't know who this man is, but he has a made-up name. he made up his name himself, right?

Edith Zimmerman

@lighter fluid I went to high school with his little sister, Pond Grakk.


@lighter fluid My cat is named River, so I only associate the name with pets. To be fair, though, she is named after a human...TV character.

Daisy Razor

@olivebee Song or Tam?


@lighter fluid It's real, I went to school with him, he's from New Hampshire or something, though, which...does not explain it.


@Daisy Razor Tam! Both my cats have sci-fi/fantasy TV show character names. The other one is Olive (from Pushing Daisies).


@lighter fluid his sister goes to my school- def a real name.


@olivebee Do you call her Olive Snook when she's being bad? I feel like that would be just kind of awesome to yell around the house.


@olivebee I'm glad I'm not the only one who does this. 2 of my cats are Willow (Buffy) and Tifa (Final Fantasy VII).


I haven't talked to my parents in a year, but it has nothing to do with electronics.


When the iPad comes out, the tot says "Mooviesh?!"

And it's perfect for watching TV and movies in bed.

It isn't a serious work machine, for me. It's for consumption, not creation. Once I figured that out, I got a lot of use out of it.


@atipofthehat I just wish you and everybody else would turn on some porn on your iPad before you started masturbating in front of it.


@atipofthehat It's scary, there are actually children who think a tablet is a book.


@Megan Patterson@facebook The kids who think books are tablets are somehow scarier to me.



In my generation, because of arcades, we still think TVs are cars. I can't tell you how many CRTs I've burned out on the track thanks to Pole Position.


@atipofthehat In fairness, I tend to make the same mistake because in my mind all of the Things I Cannot Afford To Own tend to blend into an amorphous blob of resentment and class war.



I cried because I had no 'Pad
until I saw someone who had no book


I've been saving up Amazon gift cards for months because I'm buying myself the new iPad for my birthday. I want it for travel, so I don't have to lug my big-ass Macbook Pro through airport security, and because I sit on the couch and watch TV and tweet and check Tumblr, and I don't like my laptop cord snaking across the floor for people to trip on.

Open question: Have any of you upgraded to OS X Lion? I want to upgrade for iCloud. Do any of you use it? Do you like it?


@Clare do iitttt. cloud is so bomb.



Don't ever trust it with anything important.


@Clare yeah, but the thing with those activities on an ipad is, you can't have more than one window open at a time. if you watch tv, you just have to... watch it! you can't read the news or the Pin or check tweets, unless you do it on your phone while your ipad is on your lap, which is even more product management than having a cord across your lap requires.
unless the new ipad has made it so you CAN have more than one window open at a time & simultaneously visible, in which case excuse me while i sell my car so i can buy one.


I love my iPad 2. Makes it easy for me to watch copious amounts of Criminal Minds when I am not at home.


@ImASadGiraffe My parents gave me an iPad for my last birthday so I could also use it for school and it is the best. I used to take my macbook pro with me to all of my classes to take notes, and it was super cumbersome + heavy when carrying around all of my other stuff. Now I just have this little sliver of metal! I can access most of my textbooks online and I use an app to take notes with a stylus so I don't really have that many notebooks. I also use it for other time wasting iPady things like angry birds, but it has become a pretty valuable tool for me.


@contrary I will say that I have like 30 books stored in there as well. I'd be interested in the stylus/app that you're using? How much?


@ImASadGiraffe you can find a decent stylus on amazon for $7-15. I read a ton of reviews on tech blogs about different ones and settled on the griffin (I have other accessories they make for apple products that I have been happy with, so I figured it was a safe bet). I think it was around $11. Right now I'm using the penultimate app ($0.99). It doesn't do everything I would like it to do (can't resize text, can't highlight), but it syncs with evernote and dropbox, so it outperforms a lot of the other 99 cent/free writing apps. I have some friends that use other writing apps on their iPads in the $5-10 range that have more features like text resizing, highlighting, working with other apps so you can write on pdfs, but I'm waiting to hear from them if they are that much better than penultimate before I shell out $5, because, you know, I am a broke student (I probably will though, most of my classes involve printing out power points beforehand to take notes on, and if I could eliminate the tree usage/filling my office with binders upon binders full of notes it would be nice for me and for trees).


I loved this piece and how it kind of reads like a poem. Kudos, River Clegg!


I have always been a luddite of sorts . . . I still use a walkman, and that is no joke. And not to say, walk around with in public listening to my cool '80s tapes and wearing neon stretch pants, I use it because it has the radio in it for when I walk the dog. I love the radio!

But then I started using my family and friends' iphones as a copilot on car rides and my, oh my! The joy of having a MAP of WHEREVER you are! I am really big on maps, I could look at maps forever, and I also become easily lost, so having a constantly available map to help you out in weird places is fantastic!

The trouble with that is, as soon as you lose phone service your new map goes away, so it's no good for the woods. I've been thinking about getting some kind of GPS, but compared with the ease of function of google maps, GPS maps look so shitty and confusing and slow and they just show green spaces, they don't tell you if THAT'S the park you're looking for and they're really hard to zoom out on to get perspective. I want a device that will warn me when I am on private property and prone to being shot at and tell me where the best creek access is.

I wish I could send my specific needs and requirements to makes of technology and have them tailor it for MEEEE. First step, as always: become billionaire.


also, and i know this is just my inner curmudgeon talking, but isn't it a bit disingenuous for apple to brag about how they've sold 15 million tablets versus like, the 5 million pcs or whatever the number was?

cuz um, most people already own pcs whereas tablets are new shiny technology ... i would think the sales numbers for those will slow down as more people own them and thus only buy a new one when an upgrade is needed (which if you bought an ipad 2 do you really need to upgrade to a new ipad?) (obviously the answer is yes)



The scary thing about "post-PC" to me is that these tablets are not particularly useful machines for actually doing creative work. They're like thin TVs plus e-book readers. You can pair a keyboard with one but there is no serious i/o, only the syncing process. To me they're like comically large smartphones.

I'm not interested in upgrading from the iPad 1 because there's really nothing new that you can DO with a newer version, just prettier ways to do the same stuff.


@atipofthehat I mean, I know that apple has a pretty solid customer base that will upgrade to new shiny things even if they don't necessarily need it, but I gotta think that isn't the majority.


@redheaded&crazy Well there's also the fact that a lot of Apple's products have a planned obsolescence of about 2-3 years with frequent/not-particularly-careful use (which, since Apple's demographic tends to skew heavily college kids and 20somethings, is kind of a given). The fact that this schedule aligns pretty neatly with when they roll out the newest, shiniest version of their products... is probably not a coincidence.

I mean, I love my Mac! But I can see the elaborately crafted multimedia presentation on the wall.


@annepersand right, this. this is another thing i can't get behind with apple, although my ipod that I got as a 16 year old worked really well for many many years. and that was including all the times i dropped it while on the treadmill...where it then fell onto the floor...

anyway. it's such a big conspiracy. my last phone (a blackberry) worked really well for 2 and a bit years, but the last few months it's been truly fucked ... but my contract is for 3 years! oh just sign a new contract for 3 years before your first one is up!

at the same time, i feel like my friends have gone through iphones way faster (what with the whole frequent/not particularly careful use). it's kind of a clusterfuck because on one hand, if i needed to replace my phone more often, maybe RIM would be in better shape right now. but on the other hand, i don't approve of having to replace things that often! for various reasons.

anyways, i bought my dell pc a few years ago now and if I had to replace something that expensive every 2-3 years I would be pissed.

I am clearly not anybody's target consumer.


@annepersand It seemed to me like they want most people to replace them even sooner. I've had three Apple products, only one of which I ever actually saved up for and bought new (one was a gift, and the other was "used"/basically new, but all of them were current when I got them). And I've *never* gotten one of their products that the "new" version wasn't announced 4 months later or less. In the case of my new-from-a-discounter iPad 2, that time was closer to 1 month.

I don't understand why people keep jostling onto waiting lists and camping out in front of the Apple store for these products when this is such a pattern with Apple. In a year, their status device will be the "previous generation" just like mine, but they'll have stood in line and I'll have saved $100. In a way they are terrible status devices because the whole world knows when there was an upgrade available that you haven't gotten yet.


@redheaded&crazy I swear, I think they make cell phones to last approximately six months less than the length of your contract so you have to buy a new one and renew your contract. (I'm using a 3 year old one now because my new one died after 2 months - it's fine as long as I don't have a conversation longer than 45 minutes. Which is do-able because I'm a recluse.)

And don't even get me started on iPods. But after I found out that Apple puts brand new batteries in when they refurbish iPods, I'm only buying refurbished ones from ebay from now on.


@annepersand Oh no, it's totally not a coincidence, but anyone who makes any kind of technology is guilty of this. Though oddly not Sony (at least regarding the PS3, they actually intend for the system to have a 10 year shelf life).
And I avoid the whole phone contract conspiracy by going with a provider that makes you have contracts, and buying the phone outright (because it is not overpriced. Go Wind!)


@LaLoba Step 1. Create perfect GPS device
Step 2. Market perfect GPS device
Step 3. Profit
Step 4. Become billionaire

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