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Cambridge vs. Cambridge vs. Steak

"The study was conducted by researchers at Harvard University, which undoubtedly added to its credibility factor. But it’s important to note that this was not a controlled experiment that established a causal link between red meat and specific causes of death."
Deborah Blum of M.I.T.'s Knight Science Journalism Tracker blog deconstructs that Red Meat Will Kill You study, and glazes it with a nice red wine jus.

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area@twitter

Oh my God, peer criticism of science coverage!? Where have you been all my life, you beautiful, beautiful blog.

atipofthehat

@area@twitter

Not to mention, the article is only 1/7 of a smoot long.

area@twitter

@atipofthehat Plus or minus one ear.

Emby

@area@twitter It's an OK blog... butttttttt... if you work in the science writing world, you realize the Tracker has its own sloppy ways, biases and grudges. But on the whole, it's a good thing that it exists.

Ophelia

My friend made corned beef on Saturday, and I ate a LOT of it (after not having eaten red meat in a while), and I do think the resulting digestion process took about a year off my life. So, anecdotally, I'm going with the hyperbolic media on this one.

tortietabbie

@Ophelia I made corned beef on Saturday, and I'm eating all of it, bit by bit. Every unlived year of my life, it turns out, is delicious.

candybeans

@tortietabbie corned beef is tops, isn't it? My Boston Irish grandpa made corned beef and cabbage this weekend, and man alive, it was wonnnderful. Tastes like my irish-american childhood.

Ophelia

@candybeans I was a little saddened to learn, however, that it's apparently not something people eat in Ireland? My Irish friends were revolted when I described it (I suppose I didn't do a good job?). :(

candybeans

@Ophelia paging @Decca to the thread...
I guess I'm not surprised it's not an actual Irish thing; seems a bit more like the creation of a country that has lots of cows to spare than Ireland. It's 100% authentic to my Catholic upbringing, however!

Ophelia

@candybeans I think it was also because you can feed a lot of people, cheap, with corned beef, potatoes, and cabbage (which, in the early 1900s in America, was probably what you needed to do with your family of 10 kids).

Fissionchips

@Ophelia That's weird cause corned beef is pretty popular where I'm from in the North West of England where loads of people are descended from Irish immigrants. Maybe it's just gone out of fashion in actual Ireland!

Ophelia

@Velvick Yeah, maybe it's the cabbage that's driving down the popularity of the entire dish...

Fissionchips

@Ophelia somebody just needs to make an exciting corned beef recipe book. I've only ever had it as 'corned beef hash' in a big mush with potato and carrot with pickled onions on top. (Totally fitting that my first ever comment on here was because I just couldn't give up the opportunity to talk about corned beef)

carolita

@Ophelia really? I had a ton of corned beef saturday (st paddy's day tradition at my cousin's, who's married to an irishman), and my digestion improved. In fact, I've noticed my digestion is always better after eating red meat. Weird, isn't it? I think I may have that caveman blood type or something. I went vegetarian for two years, very carefully, mind you -- did all the research to make sure I still got all the stuff I needed. No dice. I liked the food, loved it, in fact, but my digestion and health were just.... off. Till I started eating meat again. I have meat at least a few times a week now. I know what's good for ME, though I may not know what's good for everyone else...

melis

YES BUT WHAT DOES YALE HAVE TO SAY ABOUT ALL THIS

melis

I suppose the Whiffenpoof song would be more or less fitting. Are poor little lambs who have lost their way red meat, do you suppose?

Ophelia

@melis Yale is too busy fending off muggers in downtown New Haven to do things like science.

HeyThatsMyBike

@melis TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK, RORY GILMORE!

SarahP

@melis We Bostonians haven't heard of this "Yale" you speak of. Which side of the Charles River is it on?

Tragically Ludicrous

@melis Yale could use an international airport.

Oh, squiggles

I think it is safe to say that we just don't know enough about human biology to say with certainty that any one way of eating is going to be the best for everyone. Maybe it is time to stop making sweeping statements until more thorough research has been done?

Bus Driver Stu Benedict

@Awesomely Nonfunctional Do you have any idea how many deaths are caused each year by reasonableness??

I don't.

oh well never mind

@Awesomely Nonfunctional But eeeeveryone likes sweeping statements...

Oh, squiggles

@Bus Driver Stu Benedict I'm pretty sure that every person who has ever been reasonable, also died...so I should stop trying to spread reasonableness for my own safety, and the safety of others.

Oh, squiggles

@moosette Brava!

oh well never mind

@Awesomely Nonfunctional Grazie!

atipofthehat

@Awesomely Nonfunctional

We know that the SAD is pretty sad.

fondue with cheddar

@moosette Especially this guy!

Sorry, I couldn't help myself.

atipofthehat

I just read this weekend that, in 1977, the U. S. Department of Agriculture dedicated the Alferd Packer Memorial Dining Room in its D.C. headquarters. GSA made them change the name, but it was a nice try.

Ophelia

@atipofthehat The best part is that, in the press conference, they stated that the cafeteria would "serve all mankind."

dtowngirl

@atipofthehat I went to the University of Colorado, where we had the Alferd Packer Grill in the student center. Yum!

Lily Rowan

Deborah Blum is seriously the best.

Megasus

I am going to pretend that the results were if I soak everything I eat in red wine, I'll live forever. I'm pretty sure it's working for Johnny Depp.

frigwiggin

So much red meat this last week! Corned beef! Ground beef tacos! (Plus the Taco Bell Dorito taco on a lark, although that barely counts as beef to begin with.) Surely I'm due to drop dead any moment now. Thank goodness I made a bell pepper and lentil curry to revive me and make me fart irrepressibly for the next few days.

joie

@figwiggin what IS this Dorito taco I keep hearing about? Is the shell a giant Dorito? Does it have Dorito dust on it? Is it worth the subsequent gut ache?

Ophelia

@heyits I bet it turns your fingers delicious, delicious orange.

fondue with cheddar

@heyits I went to Taco Bell last night and wondered the same thing, but not enough to actually order one. If I had to bet I'd say the shell was a giant Dorito. But then wouldn't your hands get all orange?

Isn't it called a Dorito Loco Taco or something like that? That's what my cup said. Do we really need to keep attaching "loco" to Mexican items made by caucasians? It's kind of ridiculous.

frigwiggin

@heyits Yes and yes. They even give you a handy cardboard sleeve to eat it out of so you don't become afflicted with Dorito Fingers. It's okay? A novelty food, about as good as one of their regular crunchy tacos. If not for the hilarity factor, I wouldn't have bothered.

joie

@figwiggin hmmm. I'm intrigued, but not enough to buy one. I think I'd rather it was a Cheetos taco. That I would unabashedly buy.

MilesofMountains

Well, I'm done for. I decided to stop eating factory farmed meat last year, and I can get pastured cow and pig for cheap, but chickens are crazy expensive. And here I thought that'd be a positive thing for my health.

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