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Wednesday, March 28, 2012

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Beauty Q&A: Too Many Choices

I am tall, 5'11", and comfy with it. My boyfriend is 5'10" and altogether fantastic — I'm comfy with that, too. I know I will always just be taller, in life and in pictures, a fact which is amplified by my enormous head and Tammy-Taylor-wannabe hair. I wear low heels on occasion ... I just don't want to tower; towering is bad. Outsiders always say: it's so great! Everything is wonderful when you're taller than everyone else all the time! Sure. And maybe it will be, but I'm not there yet. 6' is my cap.

This spring/summer: graduation, parties, weddings — lots of picture-taking events requiring nicer shoes. How do I pull off pretty dresses and flat sandals without being too beachy? I could do a low heel, maybe 1" – 1.5", but I don't like kitten heels all that much. Got any good options for me? How do I skip the big heel, and not feel dumpy and underdressed next to girls in 3"+ wedges? Am I on the right track? Bonus challenge: barely a grad school graduate will have to mean they cost less than $100.

Your hair sounds magnificent. I was just gearing up to suggest all kinds of really cute, low- or no-heeled sandals (the ones you picked are okay if a bit pricey and too Lilly Pulitzer for my taste) when I got to "not feel dumpy and underdressed next to girls in 3"+ wedges?" It's possible, sure. Anything is possible! But the thing that makes you feel dumpy when you're not wearing heels and the person next to you is, is that you're not wearing heels and they are. Heels aren't just about what they do to the look of your feet, they completely change your posture for the better, visually speaking. (If this isn't the case and you feel dumpIER in heels you may need to work on your walk.)

Point 2: towering is not bad. (Ah-ha, I defied you!) Stop telling yourself that and stop shrugging it off when people tell you how great being tall is; it sounds like you could use a little borrowed optimism about it. You say you're comfy with your height, but only for another inch? What's the difference? Personally, when I put on 5" heels it's like a switch flips and you might as well just put me on the pole because I am going to WORK IT AND BE SEEN. At 6'+ I feel like I'm literally on top of the world and guess what? You're all losing your hair. There is not a single person on Earth who is going to look at you at 6'2", shoulders back, butt lifted, sexy calves, and be like, "Uh, check out Lurch in the heels over there." No one even knows who Lurch is these days!

Point 3: Shoes aside for barely a second, just make sure the rest of you is put together and you won't look too beachy or casual at special events. Like, don't do windswept hair and a gauzy dress — wear something tailored and try a more refined hair and makeup look. And get a pedicure!

Point 4: You don't have to wear heels, I guess. Haha! You don't! They're killing you. Keeping in mind that there's almost no way for anyone, no matter how tall, to not look a little "dumpy" in comparison to a hottie in stacked wedges, you could always, as you were hoping, wear embellished flats. Or go halfway and try a low wedge or heel that is a little more substantial than a pointy kitten heel. (Most kitten heels are not "in" right now, so if you care about being "in," throw them in the back of your closet for the next few years and wait for my signal.) The Target brand Merona makes really affordable mid-height heels of all sorts. They're not the most WOW shoes in the world, but there are usually one or two pairs that you'll see and think "those are cute and $25 and I'd wear them pretty much every day" which is as good as shopping gets. (PS: here's a $15 version and a $19 version of the $115 sandals you were considering. "Jane, those are not the same." "They seem the same to me. Do with that what you will.")

Okay, I think we can all agree that eye shadow primer makes the list of Best Things Ever. I can see the utility of foundation primer as well, even though I don't really use it myself. BUT, I can't be alone in thinking the beauty industry has started to fuck with us in the things-that-require-priming category. Mascara primer, lipstick primer, concealer primer, I actually saw a brightening product meant to be applied before foundation primer. A primer primer. So, realistically, on a daily basis, what part of my face needs to be primed?

No part. Seriously! Primer, like any amazing invention, is there to fill a need. If you don't have the need, you don't need to fill it, right? So, for example, if your eye shadow instantly creases and then melts off your face before you even get to work in the morning, get you some eye shadow primer. If not, get you a cappuccino, girl!

If that whole eye shadow thing just made you go "Wait, what!? Eye shadow isn't supposed to melt off during my commute?", you should read this short list of some of other things primers can help with:

(Primer primer is just stupid.)

Do you share any of those concerns? If not, just go about your business. Or how about you take the money you're saving and buy all the mascaras in the world, try them for a week each, and report back to us with your findings?

Any recommendations for a good (and hopefully inexpensive) eye makeup remover? I tend to use drugstore-bought Neutrogena or L'Oreal eye makeup removers, but it never seems to actually remove my eye makeup completely (maybe because I use waterproof mascara?). I also have sensitive, acne-prone skin so I am specific about my facial cleanser and steer clear of cold cream or overall face makeup-removing stuff. I usually have rings of leftover mascara/eyeliner smudged under my eyes after using the remover and then washing my face, which I sort of scrape off with a towel. That can't be good for my under-eye-skin, right? Do other people not have this problem? Am I just too OCD about the little bits of leftover makeup around my eyes? I just hate having leftover makeup on my face when I'm sleeping and also sometimes I just want to wear no makeup but I feel like I have semi-permanent raccoon eyes.

Almay's eye makeup remover pads are THE BEST. Get those, then do this:

1. Use one pad to lightly wipe off your lashes before you wash your face. Don't scrub around and try to get everything off, just kind of dab at your waterproof mascara and loosen it up. You will have MAJOR raccoon eyes after this part.

2. Wash your face for long enough. NO ONE DOES THIS but I promise, promise, promise that once you do, you will be preaching it from the mountaintops or bar bathrooms. Get a good face wash that promises to remove makeup and lather it up with warm water on your face for at least ONE FULL MINUTE, if not longer. A minute is a really long time. Imagine swirling soap around your face for this long:

See? When you start, you're thinking "Oh, a minute? Easy. That's not long at all." But then the hug comes at :35 and you're like "I'd have to keep washing for another 25 seconds? This is going to take forever!" only really it'll just take one minute in total, like I said. Be sure to concentrate on your eyes for some of that time, but gently. You can probably already see how removing your eye makeup with soap and water is a lot nicer to your skin than removing by essentially sanding it off with a dry towel.

3. Pat your face dry on a white towel to test if you got everything. If for some reason you still have eye makeup residue under your eyes, learn how to count and buy soap that works! JK, I'm sure you did everything perfectly. Take another of those Almay pads and wipe it away. It should come off pretty easily now.

How do you choose an eye shadow palette?? I just ... I can handle the rest of it: the lipstick, the blush, the eyeliner, the mascara, but damn, eye shadow intimidates me. And there are SO MANY palettes and SO MANY COLORS and I walk into Sephora and just sort of collapse under the weight of a thousand color-choices. Then, obviously, I retreat to the comfort of the lipstick sections and end up with another hot pink number, the purchase of which lets me feel as though I've accomplished something. My eyes are hazel. My skin is pale and freckly. People keep telling me purples are the way to go but that sounds scary. Thoughts?


Your best bet is to reverse engineer it by starting with the look you want rather than hoping to walk into a lightening bolt of inspiration once you're already inside Sephora. (Although it is amazing when that happens!) So, first, why do you even want to wear eye shadow? If you're just buying it and trying to wear it because it's there and you feel like you have to wear all the makeups, don't. You can totally get away with being the woman who wears lipstick, blush, eyeliner, and mascara. That is a complete look! That is more of a look than most of us bother with.

If you do have a particular look in mind, find a photo of a model who is rocking it and try to determine which colors they're wearing and if they have any sheen. I find it's less helpful to read the exact name brand and color the makeup artist in the shoot used for a number of reasons including the fact that they color correct the photos so what you see may not be what you get. Once you are like "Ohhh, she has a little purple but mostly a beige and a little sparkly pinkish highlight?" write those shades down and hand them to the salesperson manning the door at Sephora. Or, better yet, show them the picture of the look you're trying to get! You could also wander up and down the aisles yourself, but it sounds like your might have an issue with impulse control (Hello, fellow Sephora VIBs! Anyone? Anyone?) and your pocketbook could use a break. Just go in with a mission.

As for brands, I personally go in for Kat Von D's eye shadow palettes and this one from Anastasia that has your purples in it also promises to make you younger somehow.

Previously: What's That Smell?

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The Lady of Shalott

I HAVE THAT EXACT EYESHADOW PALETTE and I really like it, but I...can't say that I use the superbright sparkly purple that much. And I have greeny-hazel-y eyes. I just...I have some kind of mental block where purple (and blue) eyeshadows are involved, like OMG THEY ARE TACKY. I KNOW that they are not inherently tacky and I know that many fabulous ladies manage to pull them off on the regular, but I just...I must....AUGH AUGH.

You know what I want? You know how a while ago, Jane did an amazing thing on how to wear a superbright lip? I want Jane to do a tutorial that teaches us to wear bright, fun eyeshadows without being afraid that we look like circus clowns or 80s refugees or something.

queenieliz

@The Lady of Shalott purple is great, especially for hazel eyes! I just personally avoid purples that are too cool toned (they look blue) or shimmery/frosty looking....I don't even know if it suits me, to be honest, I just love purple...I'm going to stop rambling now..

dinos

@The Lady of Shalott Yes! I want that eyeshadow tutorial, too. All I wear is beige, and darker beige. I once saw a girl wearing bright turquoise eyeshadow and it looked great and not costume-y and I have never been able to recreate that look on myself.

Quinn A@twitter

@The Lady of Shalott Yes! I've tried bright eyeshadows and gone "wait, that doesn't make anyone ELSE look like a deranged whore-clown! Why do I look like one? IS IT MY FACE?!".

I suspect it is probably my face, though. I've got giant crazy eyes. If something is giant and crazy-looking, it probably doesn't need to be painted with bright colours.

MilesofMountains

@The Lady of Shalott I feel the same way about wearing light coloured eyeshadow. I see lots of people rocking light pinks and lilacs but I put it on and it looks tacky and awkward, like I have reverse raccoon eyes.

PistolPackinMama

@The Lady of Shalott Wait... I think she did one. I am sure she did. It was the tutorial before the Brigit Bardot one. I am sure I remember peacock colors in there.

fabel

@The Lady of Shalott I have similiar colored eyes & have heard the same thing about purples, but I feel like it makes my eyelids looks bruised? (and I feel like I'm pretty good with makeup, so that's not the problem) I just do neutrals. all neutrals all the time. Brown makes the green stand out!

Slapfight

@The Lady of Shalott 80's refugee is the look I generally go for! Specifically Roxy from Jem's rival band the Misfits.

jules

@Quinn A@twitter @The Lady of Shalott I think you've gotta have a good set of brushes. Then you've gotta take just a leeeetle bit of the bright color and tap-tap-tap it on your lid. Then tap a little more. Build up the color slowly. THEN take a clean brush and BLEND the edges with tiny buffing strokes. Almost anyone can get away with bright colors!

Electric_El

@The Lady of Shalott / Jules

It took me YEARS to figure this out (largely because it's discouraged in beauty mags in case it makes you look fever-y) but! Deep Dark Red/Burgundy eye-liners (ideally with a little shimmer) combined with a doe/beige base looks wonderful on hazel eyes. It sounds scary, but it really brightens up hazel eyes and brings out BOTH the green and gold. The deep red/burgundy and doe color in this Designer Chocolates is a great example of what I mean. (Yes, I know it's not following the directions on the quad itself - but, uh, be a rule-breaker! :O) (EDIT: In the quad itself, the colors I'm referring to are #3 for the Deep Red and #2 for the pretty Doe, just FYI.)

Electric_El

@Electric_El No HTML links allowed I guess. If you want to look, I was referring to Maybelline's Designer Chocolates quad.

pilcrow

@fabel I too have hazel eyes and like to work the purples. But there are some that I can't do because, yes, it looks like I have a fading black eye. It's all about the tone - you just have to avoid the tone of an actual bruise on you. Like I love Benefit's cream shadows because I am too lazy for makeup brushes and I can use my finger, but the purple shade looks like I've been in a fight. (You should see the other guy!) But I have a purple eyeliner shadow thingy from 100% Pure that looks fine.

TheDragon

@The Lady of Shalott
Also something that really helps is using a light color in the same "type" as your bright (shimmery or matte) on the inner corner, and a dark black or brown on the outer. This adds some definition to the bright and gives you a cat's eye shape. (I have blue eyes with orange rings around the pupils, and I do a champange color, blended into a bronze-orange, which I fade into black. I actually found it when I was being a tiger for halloween, and love it for anytime now!)
Or do a standard brown or grey-black smokey eye (light smoke if it's for daytime) and do a pop of bright eyeshadow along the inner corner, and fade it into the nuetral that should start 1/3 of the way along your lash line. (I like doing a pop of lime green with black and turquoise with brown.)
I used to be totally hopeless with my makeup, but I lived with a youtube makeup-tutorial ADDICT for a year and I learned SOOOO much. It really helps to see how they apply the makeup, and then use those techniques/shading shapes to make your own look

TheDragon

@The Kendragon

http://www.flickr.com/photos/55386259@N03/7025695297/in/photostream
The next three pictures are of my super quick demonstration. The Orange one is a LOT brighter but didn't show up well.

Do I have clown face? I think it looks good, but now I wonder. Also, never take pictures of your skin that close at the end of a day. I feel like getting rid of myself, I am revolting.

florabora

@The Lady of Shalott If I end up with a tough-to-wear color, I make myself wear it out at night (when you can look more crazy) at least once and if I still am not a fan I just use it as eyeliner.

allendaniel

This would be infinitely adorable ... if you'd get rid of that GREEN CRAP that COVERS 1/4 OF THE VIDEO.@a

thebestjasmine

Ooh, here's my face washing suggestion! Get that Olay battery powered face washing thing (knock off of the Clarisonic, except for $25 instead of $200) -- It feels all nice when you're using it all over your face that you don't even realize how long you're washing your face for, and I just use any old face wash for it, and my skin feels awesome.

Also, Jane, Neutrogena makes my favorite makeup remover, so that is an option if there is no Almay or if it's cheaper.

Oh, and I think most eyeshadow palettes are terrible. Most of them have maybe two shadows that I would wear or would look good on me, and a bunch of bad ones. This may be because of my skin color, but I never buy them, and when I get them as gifts I try to like them and then am sad. The only exception is Nars, because their palettes only have two colors and they complement one another and are often great.

queenieliz

@thebestjasmine but the palettes are usually less expensive per unit than the singles(though I guess the saving are cancelled out by not ever using that shimmery blue one) I for one would be very happy if all cosmetics came in smaller packages. I NEVER use up anything other than powder and foundation.

thebestjasmine

@queenieliz They are less expensive, but it feels so wasteful when I am never going to use that shimmery pale grey or too light beige or anything in the blue/purple family, etc.

Ophelia

@thebestjasmine Ooh, samesies on the Olay brush thingy. It feels so nice, and it's kind of fun?

I also use the Almay makeup remover pads Jane recommended, and I love them.

thebestjasmine

@Ophelia I totally got that from a rec from a Hairpinner in comments of one of the very first Beauty Q&A posts -- I have no idea who she was, but THANK YOU whoever recommended it. I hadn't even known it existed, and I went out and bought it that day and I've been using it for a while and love it lots (and it's still on its first set of batteries and I've been using it for well over 6 months). It feels totally nice!

Ophelia

@thebestjasmine Also, I think we should start buying eyeshadow palettes and swapping around the colors we don't use. I for example, will take all of your light grays and beiges (and hey, maybe the pale purple if I'm feeling adventurous), and you can have all the colors my freckled, redheaded self can't use :)

thebestjasmine

@Ophelia I love this idea. Send all of the oranges/yellows/browns/pinks my way!

Jillsy Sloper

@thebestjasmine I've been curious about the Olay brush, but right now I just use a washcloth with my cleanser to remove makeup, and it works OK.

roughe

@thebestjasmine COSIGNED on the olay brush. seriously, washing my face pretty much felt the same no matter what cleanser i used but that brush + their basic glycolic wash = HEAVEN ON EARTH.

queenieliz

@Ophelia Have you heard of INGLOT cosmetics? They get rave reviews from bloggers... I personally am waiting till I can afford to go to the store and buy enough stuff to make a 60 mile round trip worth while, but they also sell online. You can make your own palettes, and it is cheaper (again) than buying the singles. They even sell really cool looking cases. Like I said, I haven't tried it myself, but they seem really cool and have tons of colors.

Party Falcon

VIBs unite!

And for the eyeshadow seeker I'm a little in love with the Too Faced eye palettes right now. As long as you don't mind a bit of shine, they are fab.
Linky!

Party Falcon

Also, the BEST purple shadow I've ever found is This. In Stone. It's a lovely purple with a little greige-y going on. Perfect for your crease. The eyeliner is kinda crap though, and Stila doesn't sell JUST an eyeshadow that matches exactly.

hulia

@Party Falcon Shimmery neutrals are my faaavorite. I've been thinking of doing the Urban Decay naked one that everyone was raving about a few months back, but I like this Too Faced one a lot too.

Today is definitely going to be a Sephora lunch break day.

bitzy

@hulia I have been using this for years(Clinique Foxy)and LOVE IT. It blends into awesome-sexiness with black eyeliner. Which is literally the one kind of eye makeup that I know how to do/think looks non-clownish on me.

http://tinyurl.com/7e6qs4l

EpWs

@hulia Ooohhhh, I have the UD Naked 2 and I love it FOREVER. Forever forever. Buy it immediately.

@hulia Stila in "Sun." Trust me.

hulia

@The Everpresent Wordsnatcher Done and done! But damn, Sephora lunch breaks are expensive lunch breaks. I've actually been surprisingly happy with this Revlon shadow for a while -- it stays all day, is a good neutral with shimmer, not sparkle -- but I really, really need to start mixing it up. So excited to get to play with new makeup!

bisou

okay DONT judge me because i'm a fellow VIB but i'm incredibly addicted to wet n wild's color palettes. you know, the big ones with 8 shadows that cost $4? the blue and purple ones are AMAZING.

Sam I am

@Party Falcon Yay, VIB! Good timing for this post too, todays a VIB discount day!

queenieliz

@bisou they are the best aren't they? Some seriously amazing colors.

Fig. 1 (formerly myfanwy)

My sister is very tall and she wore 5" heels as my maid-of-honour. Nobody said a thing! (Except she didn't wear them that long since they were foot-killers.) I'm going to quote Julia from The Magician King and say if you feel or receive grief about your height, just go "I'm the best [tallest] there is, and fuck you for asking."

I mean, wear whatever height of shoe you like. But never apologize for whatever height you are! That says more about them then it does about you. And we Pinners are much too evolved to get hung up on height now, aren't we?

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@Fig. 1 (formerly myfanwy) I love that you just quoted The Magician King. Also, completely off-topic: what were your thoughts about the way in which Julia was, er, deified? I found it mad problematic but no one I know IRL has read the book and I have no one to discuss it with!

Fig. 1 (formerly myfanwy)

@Kate Croy Ugh it has been awhile since I read it, but Fig 2 just finished it so some parts (not the deification however) are at the top of my brain. It seemed like it didn't fit, somehow? (I had this issue with the first book, where the back third didn't mesh with the front two.) Perhaps because it was a passive resolution for such an active character.

What did you find problematic about it? I can't really remember the details aside from the description of Hell/Purgatory, with the fluorescent lights. That stays with me, somehow.

H.E. Ladypants

@Fig. 1 (formerly myfanwy) I feel like the heel issue DOES become a bit of thing when you factor in boyfriends, though. Last weekend I went to a wedding and had a hell of a time find heels I like that were not much more than two inches tall.

Why did I want such short heels? My boyfriend is exactly my height and I wanted to gaze lovingly into his eyes during a slow dance, not down on the top of his head.

Sometimes, it's just a matter of logistics!

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@Fig. 1 (formerly myfanwy) The rape-of-Julia-as-the-way-she-comes-into-her-full-power felt cheap/tawdry to me, both as an event in the plot and as a narrative choice. Like, I can't picture Grossman ever having written a similar scene about Quentin. I don't know, it's hard to articulate and it's been a while since I took queer theory class.

Ophelia

@Kate Croy Yeah, I didn't love it, either. And even apart from the rape part, it bothered me that she never got to become fully human before she became something else?

Fig. 1 (formerly myfanwy)

@Kate Croy Ohhhh yes the scene with Reynard. I had less of an issue with it, since he (it?) was a god, and I could actually see it happening with a male character, although I'm not sure "Take me instead" would have the same double-meaning. OK, now I do have an issue with it! I think that Grossman was a bit unfair to his female characters - I can't think off the top of my head any of the women who gained power or were powerful who weren't eventually punished for having power.

@H.E. Ladypants Ahh forgot about that. I have danced conventionally with Fig 2 once, and that was at our wedding. I belong to the classless sect of society that kicks off their shoes once the dancing starts, since our version of "dancing" inspires terror in onlookers (at least the ones who manage not to get injured).

Hellcat

@H.E. Ladypants Aww, my sister used to slow dance with my ex at weddings because she's tall and he's tall, while I and her ex are not. It sometimes confused the relatives, but that's OK.

chelsaurus

I have a not-worthy-of-official-submission beauty question! My hair stylist offers "complimentary bang trims," which I don't usually have to take her up on because I'm in the salon frequently enough for overall trims to also keep my bangs in check. But I'm currently trying to grow my hair out to ponytail length and she told me to quit coming in to see her unless something was making me absolutely crazy. My bangs are definitely making me absolutely crazy. So, when promised bang trim happens, how much do I tip? How does it even work (especially since I won't actually be paying at the counter or whatever)? I feel compelled to over-tip since I haven't been in since January or so and I'm normally there every 6 weeks. Help?

Jane Marie

@chelsaurus depending on how long it takes them I tip anywhere from $10 to $20 for a bang trim. is this okay hairdresser 'pinners?

Party Falcon

@chelsaurus Go! Do eeet! 5 bucks cash. 10 would be nice. (This is from a midwesterner, though. If you're in a more chi-chi 'hood, it might be more.) And just hand it to her. It sounds like you have a fab relationship, it'll be fine. That's what the service is there for. Remind her about the growing out, she may take a gander at the rest of your strands and recommend you schedule a trim or something just to keep your hair healthy.

chelsaurus

@Jane Marie Sounds good! Thank you!

olivebee

@chelsaurus This may not be up your alley, but I cut my own bangs every couple weeks (to save money....and I'm good at cutting hair), and when both my hairdressers (one from when I used to live in PA and one in Chicago - I don't have two at once) found out I do it myself, they both gave me advice and tips on how to do it. They didn't seem at all irked that I wasn't coming to them for the trimmings.

werewolfbarmitzvah

@chelsaurus Allow me to interject that trimming your own bangs can be a rollicking good time.

chelsaurus

@olivebee I've cut my own bangs in the past, but at my last cut we went fairly short and blunt, so I need professional help to transition back to long and swoopy! After that I'll probably try to handle it myself again.

OhMarie

@chelsaurus I always felt too weird about this to do it, but the last time I was in for my normal haircut my stylist sat me down and said that I really needed to come in and that she would just squeeze me in while someone was getting shampoo'd or their hair color was cooking. It's practically a free $10 for her.

@chelsaurus About $10-15. Your salon should have little envelopes for a tip. Write her name on it and write "Thanks so much! xo, Chelsaurus!"

SadieHawkins

@chelsaurus Mine started charging $15 for trims, so I've been tipping $5.

MollyculeTheory

@chelsaurus Yeah, just do what I do and trim them yourself, only to get reprimanded when you sheepishly drag yourself and your crookedy bangs into the salon 5 months later because the ends of your hair are starting to look like kelp again!

Ophelia

@MollyculeTheory Wait, they're not supposed to look like that? Shit.

punkahontas

@chelsaurus I have high-maintenance bangs and I always tip $10 for my bang trims. It takes her about 10 minutes, and that's like making a dollar a minute.

OxfordComma

@punkahontas : ...Uhhhh...Am I a total asshole for tipping 20% on a haircut? It was hella expensive, like, over $200...

carolita

@chelsaurus I tip $20 for a bang trim, bc a full haircut costs $100 and I usually tip $20 anyway. I just slip my guy the twenty as I kiss him goodbye. He seems happy with me. He also knows I'm perfectly capable of cutting my own bangs between haircuts, so it's more like a social call when I come to him. I usually wait four months between full haircuts. Maybe he figures I'm not much trouble and I tip?

Disco Sheets

@chelsaurus De-lurking finally to say I think I must be a jerk because I rarely tip on free bang trims! I tipped like $5-ish the first few times, but since my salon is near my gym, I almost never have cash on me when I go for a trim. I always make sure to set an appt for my next real cut or color though, and usually toss in a couple extra bucks to the tip at that appt. Plus, I always give out her card and send new clients her way so I feel like it evens out? Ahhh I hope she doesn't secretly hate me! (Also, I've been seeing her for a year and a half now, and will continue to see her as long as I live in this city/she stays at a salon near-ish)

Party Falcon

@Amies Not a jerk. I think it's just all about the relationship with your stylist, honestly. You have one, you respect it and you both get something out of the deal. Yes, the $5 tip would be nice, but if you see her that regularly anyway? She doesn't secretly hate you.

marisaissleepy

@Ophelia TRY THIS https://www.asseenontv.com/bango-hair/detail.php?p=296692 and report back!!!!!!!!

TDF@twitter

@carolita How does everyone manage to afford these haircuts? I pay about $60 every (um, ha ha) 4-5 months and it still takes a bite out of my budget. Enlighten me, Pinners!

@TDF@twitter So, first of all, planning. You know it's going to be a certain amount at a certain interval, so space it out a bit. I tend to put a certain amount away each month so that it won't be a big huge hit. $60 over 4 months? Put away an extra $15/month (transfer it to savings, withdraw it and hide it under your pillow, whatever) and then BOOM haircut money.

So my deal is that I go full out every 4 months or so -- color, cut, blowout, etc. It comes it at around $150 + tip. Then I maintain it like crazy, and do color at home from a box when I need a little freshening up with my roots. I plan like a motherfucker, both for budgeting purposes as well as timing, i.e. right before a wedding in September, once in January, and I've stretched it out so that the next time I'll go will be in May, right before I leave for the west coast for a few months.

The other thing -- long hair. Long hair is way cheaper.

carolita

@TDF@twitter I think I mentioned that I only get my hair cut every four to six months? Other people get haircuts way more often. I also have a long haircut, so it's not that big a deal to let it grow between haircuts. And, as I said, I do usually trim my own bangs in between. I only get a real haircut when things get dire. Also, since my day job is in fashion and I have signed a contract that says I must "maintain my appearance," I can deduct it as a work expense. (That clause in my contract actually seemed insulting and I had refused to sign it until I realized it made haircuts deductible.)

Tragically Ludicrous

I wish I was taller than I am because then I wouldn't have to wear heels. (I mean, I still only rarely do, but if I was taller they'd be unnecessary!)

Jennifer@twitter

@Tragically Ludicrous I'm not very tall, but my guy is *maybe* an inch taller than me. Actually make me happy for the same reason... heels hurt my feet. <3 me some flats.

Also, my two best friends in high school were 6' ladies who also occasionally wore heels. I still just stuck it as the short one in cute flats. Or sneakers.

special_boots

I wear eyeshadow daily and I have NEVER seen the need for a primer. I've even tried samples of eyeshadow primer and found zero difference between that and not wearing it. Is it an eye-depth thing? A skin dryness-or-oilness thing? Are some people just wearing really poor-quality eyeshadow?

I do not understand, but I would like to understand.

Mascara primer is great if you want drag-queen lashes, which sometimes I do. Foundation primer I use daily to reduce the greasy look from my sunscreen. God I hope they don't cancel each other out.

P.S. Waterproof mascara is the Great Satan.

Anna Jayne@twitter

@special_boots I think it might be a skin dryness or oiliness thing? Because my skin is THE GREASIEST and eyeshadow primer totally helps me.

queenieliz

@special_boots yes, it's an oiliness thing. And also an eyeshadow quality thing. Oily eyelids need primer or the eyeshadow all ends up in the crease. I didn't wear shadow for years because of this then I learned of primer! Also, primer can help lesser quality shadows perform better, and provide a lighter base color for bright colored shadows to show over.

nonvolleyball

@Anna Jayne@twitter do you know of a drugstore brand that works (or works well-ish)? I inherited my mom's insanely greasy eyelids, & the only way I can get eyeshadow to REALLY stick around is to use some of this old Maybelline gel eyeshadow stuff as an undercoat (& I'm running out of my supply because I think they discontinued it about a decade ago). but I'm cheap, & I hate to imagine dropping $25 on something from Amazon that ends up not really working.

dj pomegranate

@special_boots I have sort of deep-set eyes (like, my lids --where the liner is-- hits the top of my eye socket when my eyes are open, if that makes sense?) And my eyelids are OILYGREASY! So oily! So eyeliner and eyeshadow are basically useless because I put it on, let it "set" and then open my eyes and within 10 minutes, the oil has washed all the makeup into every possible eye-area crease. I discovered primer about two months ago and all of a sudden, SO MANY MORE OPTIONS! No more migrating makeup!

queenieliz

@nonvolleyball I don't know of a drugstore brand per se that actually works, though it seems that they are coming out with more primers in the drugstore, but Urban Decay Primer Potion is like $18 and works for pretty much everybody and lasts a long time, if that seems like way too much NYX also makes really good primers for under $10, but the only place I know to get NYX is online or ULTA. Don't spend $25 on eyeshadow primer! Oh I also like the Bare Escentuals Eye Primer at $18..

Party Falcon

@queenieliz Seconded on the BE eye primer! I have it in a brown and a grey and it really is fantastic on it's own and under stuff.

(I like to use it for a subtle lower lid liner. Just to provide a little color and defintion with going all 'I went 'round and 'round with the eye pencil)

Mariajoseh

@special_boots it is also a weather thing. And a how-much-do-you.rub-your-ayes-when-you-are-nervous thing. I lived in a 100% humidity city and my makeup was almost non existent by 2pm without primer. Now I live in mexico City and I only use primer in days like today: I left the house at 8am and I'm going to a concert (artic monkeys!!!) after work, so I need all the help I can get. Primer did change my life.

OhMyGoshYouGuys

@nonvolleyball I highly recommend Bare Minerals Prime Time Eyelid Primer. (Not the brightening one.) It is THE best. I have very oily eyelids and this stuff is the only primer that has ever worked for me. The tube is $18 but lasts awhile. It's worth it if you wear eyeshadow. It also helps eye liner stay put. After i dab it on and spread it evenly, I close my eyes so it can dry without creasing. Then apply shadow. So nice.

HeyMatilda

@Party Falcon I LOVE the Bare Minerals Eyelid Primer but I had no idea they make it in colors!! Whattttttt!

Party Falcon

@HeyMatilda The Primers!

I have the Twig and the Gunmetal. And they are not NEARLY as dark/bright as the color swatches make them appear.

hedgehog

@special_boots CoverGirl. Seriously. I'm pretty impressed. Tapestry Taupe is a nice one-step shimmery neutral and I use it as a base for other stuff all the time.

roughe

@nonvolleyball i'm super cheap and i pretty much just try new things all the time but if you look in my bathroom drawer right now you'll see three empty tubes of Urban Decay Primer Potion. there's a reason it sells out constantly at sephora. it is literally the best and i will never be without it. you literally don't know how good it works until you run out and realize your (nice, expensive) eyeshadow is creased all to hell after 2 hours and melting off your face. seriously buy it, it does exactly what it says.

Slapfight

@all I'ma run out and buy some primer immediately. All day I've been trying to smear the shadow in my greasy crease back onto the lid. Yay! I'm just going to say it again. Greasy crease.

queenieliz

@Slapfight I so used to do that....Halfway thru the night look in the mirror :( wipe creased eye shadow around :/ it'll do....Primer FTW

madge

@nonvolleyball try the E.L.F primer. it's $1 i think and you can get it at target. it's not the best i've ever used (benefit stay don't stray 4evs) but it's pretty darn good for a buck.

meganmaria

@nonvolleyball I just got the Stila prime pot in Taffy (? I think. Whatever the lighter one is). It was 20 bucks and I can see that it's going to last me a long time. I do a small rubdab (it's more solid than I thought looking at it online) on my ring finger and do both lids and under my eyes, too, because it helps my concealer stay longer and helps cover my sleep-deprivation circles better.

@serenityfound

I have that same problem with mascara removal! Always end up scrubbing with a dry towel or some toilet paper. *sigh*

Also, LW #3 - purple is boss for hazel eyes. Even just swapping out black/brown eyeline for darkish purple instead is kind of awesome (and it's not as intimidating as full-on purple eyeshadow).

dinos

Eye makeup remover lady, the waterproof stuff is not going to come off nicely without an oily remover. You can get the Salma Hayek one at CVS and it is really good and gentle. Then wash your face according to Jane's (kitten-cuddling) instructions.

carolita

@dinos I use DHC oil cleanser so eye makeup removal is included. I use waterproof mascara, and it works, no problem. You just have to go in with a dampened cotton pad to get the residual black stuff from between your eyelashes and under eye area, then dry off. Also, use sparingly, as tons of oiliness in the eye isn't wonderful ever.

Aubergines

@dinos I have crazy-sensitive skin, like my-mother-posts-lotion-from-the-uk sensitive. I use johnson & johnson baby shampoo on some cotton balls. Seriously, it's stupidly cheap, and is safe to pour into children's eyes, but strong enough to wash dirt from their hair! PERFECT.

Natalie Stone@facebook

@dinos Best thing ever, hands down, that I have used for eye makeup removal is this:

http://www.janeiredale.com/remove_mitt.html

And I wear Benefit They're Real everyday. This thing is my all-time favorite. Almost as fast as a makeup remover wipe, but without the soap so it doesn't make my skin crazy. It is the best of ALL WORLDS!

mackymoo

LW3: Jojoba oil! $7 at Trader Joe's for what looks like a little bottle but seriously I have used it every day for a month and the bottle still looks full. I love this stuff in a way I have never loved a product before.

chelsaurus

@mackymoo Me too. It's the greatest.

curryspice

@mackymoo -I have the TJ jojoba as well, I mix mine with a little castor oil (also cheap, one bottle lasts forever, etc.).

Jillsy Sloper

@mackymoo And here I thought I invented the idea of using jojoba oil as a makeup remover. I read that oil-cleansing-method webpage way back when and couldn't keep THAT up, but then I had a whole bottle of jojoba oil sitting around, and that shit did take my makeup off like nobody's business, so...

queenieliz

@mackymoo It's so good for moisturizing too! (I even out of necessity used it on some really dried out leather and it made it beautiful again!) All Purpose Jojoba Oil! But I still don't know how to pronounce it! HO HO BA or JO JO BA?

all the kittens in the club gettin nipsy

@mackymoo In a pinch you can use EV olive oil too, or cold-press almond oil... anything in your kitchen that is not a high-heat frying oil. Will totally melt away all the makeups. Also, oil won't irritate sensitive skin, and you can totally rub it right in your eyes with no worries! Unlike soap.

@queenieliz Ho Ho Bah or Heh Ho Ba, it's Spanish

VolcanoMouse

@100kb Seconding the EVOO or almond oil suggestions-- that shit WORKS. You can smush it into your eyeball and it won't sting a bit. Your mascara will just sludge right off.

mangosara

@100kb wait you just changed my world. I've been reading it the other way since forever! and didn't realize until just now that I hadn't heard it spoken ever!

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@mackymoo yes to coconut and jojoba oil!! I thought I was all original too, but here you all are! It makes me feel better that if it gets in my eyes it won't sting or give me chemical poisoning (i am paranoid). And if you just rinse with water afterwards you're good to go!

Sam I am

@100kb Thank you for answering that age old question! I've just started using extra virgin olive oil as a part time cleanser and nighttime moisturizer (alternate nightly with cetaphil cleanser, retin-A, and spot treatment) and my skin already showing a difference. I worry about all of the chemical cleaners, theres tons of not good stuff in them. Don't be scared of oil is a great lesson to learn! But what is the difference between jojoba, vitamin E, and EVOO oils?

all the kittens in the club gettin nipsy

@Sam I am I haven't used jojoba or vitamin E myself, but I hear they are lighter and less thick than EVOO. According to some followers of the Oil Cleansing Method, jojoba is the closest match to natural skin oil. And EVOO can leave you smelling a bit like ... italian food. Most other oils have very little smell.

Sam I am

@100kb Thank you, I'll have to compare them all!

ETA your picture is adorable! Makes me eager to visit my kitty!

meaux

@curryspice. Say, why do you mix castor oil in?

queenieliz

See, Jane, I think you made a mistake by telling tall girls that no one was going to say, "Look at Lurch over there in heels", because now that image is in our heads and we (well I) will surely believe that that is what EVERY ONE is thinking...And I'm only 5'9"...

thebestjasmine

@queenieliz NOT true. I am a short lady, and there was a super tall woman on my train this morning with heels on, and I was just full of envy for how awesome and tall she was.

JessAndNo21

@queenieliz The beauty is, if they're thinking that, they're also probably thinking "Wait...if Lurch is that big she could probably pound the shit out of me for thinking that." (I'm 6'1, and wear heels because: Fuck It and Everyone Else.)

Lily Rowan

But also, and maybe this is going to come out sounding crazy, but heels and big hair totally disguise how tall you actually are. Also who cares, but I feel like flats actually make you (me) seem taller.

Lily Rowan

(not that I'd ever wear 5" heels, but 3" is my limit because of comfort, not tallness.)

Faintly Macabre

@Lily Rowan I sometimes think that, too. Like, when I'm wearing flats, I feel like people look at me and go "AAAH she's that tall in flat flats!" whereas if I'm wearing 3" heels, they can look at them and think, "Oh, it's just the heels." Not that I particularly care, as people are going to notice how tall I am no matter what.

Lily Rowan

@Faintly Macabre I'm so glad this is not just me!

queenieliz

@Lily Rowan wait though... the more I think about this, the more I'm sure it's just self consciousness...Which is kind of what I was trying to get across. I can't really think of when I've ever seriously looked at someone else tall or short and assessed how much their height had to do with their shoes. I notice shoes, because I like shoes, and I notice height, because I am tall enough that there is often a big difference. I think we are all projecting our self conscious on others. We are all the height we are, no changing it and no point doing anything other than what feels awesome. (at least I'm going to tell myself that for now)

carolita

@JessAndNo Also, it weeds out the insecure creeps of both sexes. Who needs 'em?

candybeans

@queenieliz No one even knows who lurch is anymore!

Aubergines

@Lily Rowan And me @FaintlyMacabre. I feel people check my feet a couple of times a day.

Regarding awesome flats - try a tall person shop, longtallsally.com do really pretty low heels or flats. They're sizes come up normal for shoes, but large for clothes. Check with a tape measure if you're buying tops. They're expensive, but the quality is really very good fabrics and construction.

carolita

@candybeans no! don't say that! I had a crush on Lurch when I was a kid. It was split between Gomez and Lurch, sort of the way I used to split a crush between Mr. Spock and Captain Kirk. I'll never forget Lurch.

Jen Alien-Spouse@twitter

@Lily Rowan I'm sure I've read that early in Geena Davis' acting career she was told she was just too tall. She took to wearing towering heels to auditions and if the casting director mentioned her height, she would say "Oh! I am wearing these really high shoes today, so..."

candybeans

@carolita 1) you are wonderful and had the most delightfully strange childhood crushes, and 2), I was quoting Our Jane, because that line in her answer made me chuckle. Lurch 4evr in our <3s.

carolita

@candybeans Ah, embarrassing! I wrote that rather early in the morning for me. My sense of irony doesn't kick in till the second cup of tea! :) Yes, Lurch 4evr!

werewolfbarmitzvah

Yeaaaaaaaah, starting to wonder if it's time to jump on the primer bandwagon. I never really wore foundation before, but now I'm on Retin-A as part of my plan to be forever ageless, and so my skin gets a little red and splotchy on some days. So I picked up some foundation to use on the days when my face is just too red and splotchy to show up to work that way. BUT, as a person with super-dry skin (and it was super-dry looooooong before the Retin-A), foundation tends to make alllllllllll the dry patches on my face stand out like dry, scaly beacons. Primer will remedy that, amirite?

hedgehog

@werewolfbarmitzvah yes, I use the MUFE one for exactly this. also get Aveeno's daily skin brightening scrub and use beforehand.

werewolfbarmitzvah

@hedgehog EXCELLENT, I was just about to start trolling for specific product recommendations for the dry patches!

hedgehog

@werewolfbarmitzvah I used to shell out for the Dermalogica microfoliant which is sort of the platonic ideal exfoliator. But the Aveeno stuff is lovely and gentle on adult-issues skin and it works beautifully.

(I should say I'm not using Retin-A nowadays, but I have a case of rosacea that is pretty much exactly like being on Retin-A was. Red splotches, dry patches, tendency to flake. But nobody has to know!)

punkahontas

@werewolfbarmitzvah You might want to just try a BB Cream. It's moisturizing and has sunscreen, which you need if you're using Retin-A. The one I'm in love with is Dr. Jart. If you need more coverage, you could always add a little foundation on top, just where you need it.

ample pie

@werewolfbarmitzvah I am a Retin-A user as well, and I use a moisturizer with hyaluronic acid that works pretty well. It's DeVita Solar Protective Moisturizer, and I super-love it because it's SPF 30, which most moisturizers aren't, and I feel like with Retin-A I need all the protection I can get.

I also give my skin a break from the ol' Retin-A every couple of nights, and on those nights I apply argan oil to the scaly places.

Hellcat

@punkahontas Yay! I don't even wear eyeshadow but I always feel I have to cheer for the Dr. Jart's! And for you, who taught me about it via your blog! It's a little miracle, that. And damn, it lasts forever!

I have a weird, sort of embarrassing, beauty-related question: eyebrow grit! Is this a thing or is it just me? Right next to my eyebrows (the right more often than the left), toward the outside of my face (not near my nose), I get this almost sand- or saltlike sprinkling of something or other. What the hell is this? I can feel it in my eyebrows too a little, but I can actually sometimes see it on my face. It's so weird. I try not to get makeup in my eyebrows, and after using powder, I'll go at them with a brow brush, but still this shows up...

miwome

@werewolfbarmitzvah Same problems here. I use the Aveeno super super gentle foam cleanser (if you want to know the name properly I can look, but right now I reeeeaaaally don't want to get up), which is pretty much the only thing that makes me feel like my face is clean without turning it into some sort of reptilian desert, and then I use the Smashbox Photo Finish primer, which feels awesome on my skin (the oily-ish, silicone-iness of it somehow feels really soothing) and works like a dream. (And is SPF 15.) A tube lasts pretty well, too!

werewolfbarmitzvah

@punkahontas Ahhhhh, teach me the ways of your BB creams! So here's the thing: I've been tempted by the BB creams for a long time, but...I'm mostly allergic to sunscreen. I usually protect against the sun through a combination of sun hats and always walking on the shady side of the street (inconvenient, but works pretty well! I'm still glow-in-the-dark color). But I've been wondering, whaaaaaaat iiiiiiiif some of the higher-end beauty products have a better-quality sunscreen that won't cause a big red mess on my face? Does the Dr. Jart BB cream feel appropriate for very sensitive skin? There's a 15% off VIB sale at Sephora burning a hole in my pocket.

Hellcat

@werewolfbarmitzvah DO IT! I'm a sensitive-skin lady who does not like foundationy stuff and who is also not any kind of skilled makeup guru... but this is the best thing ever (and right now I have it on top of a little bit of "regular" sunscreen too). It's easy to blend and, while it comes out of the tube a color that looks like it would not work for me, it doesn't stay that color on your skin. On days that you don't want to be bothered with other makeup, this is fabulous too. Best thing I ever bought from Sephora, I think. I actually have a spare so that there's never a lag when it runs out (because the packaging is such that you can't actually see when that will happen).

NeverOddOrEven

@punkahontas I fucking LOVE my Dr Jart Water Fuse! I normally wont spend anything over $10 on makeup, but I'm so glad I got that. It's going to be the gift any woman in my life gets this year.

I'm super pale but it's perfect on my skin. Everything just looks so.... even. Radiant? Dewy? Flawless, basically.

Super simple cleanser at night + Retin A Micro (Thanks Jane!) + BB Cream = changed life. And simple mornings.

aphrabean

TALL LADY: OXFORDS. DRESSY OXFORDS. Probably no-one agrees with me about this except for me, but I've started wearing colored stockings with little oxford ankle booties, and I feel perfectly awesome in them. I put the rest of my outfit together around the oxford booties, and I will never, ever wear tall heels again - I hate them, I feel a thousand times less confident in them, and I reject the hypothesis that they're a requirement for hotness.

(Please, other people - wear heels all you want! I don't care! This is not a judgment upon anything except the idea that we HAVE to wear them if we want to really reach the pinacle of our potential sexiness. But I am never wearing them again, after years of perfecting my walk & shortening my stride & hurting my feet.)

Also, I personally consider femme women who do not wear heels to be WAY hotter than femme women who do. (Limiting this to femmey types for the sake of this conversation.) Personal preferences! People have them. But it's important to note, I think, when commenting how it's almost inevitable that you'll appear dumpy next to hotties in heels. JANE I THINK YOU'RE GREAT AND I LOVE YOUR CAT EYE TUTORIAL! This is just one of those hot-button-things for me.

Edited to note that I've had a lot of coffee today.

Elvis Costello's Spectacles

@aphrabean Yes! This! I am of a height where I really don't need any additional inches, and I hate walking in heels anyway. My fancy Oxfords have pretty much died on me now, I have worn them so much.

aphrabean

@Elvis Costello's Spectacles Oh, good, I'm not alone! One of my prized possessions are a pair of thrifted Joan & Davids in a gorgeous faux-alligator skin, but I wore them right into the ground. The uppers are ok, still, if a little scuffed - maybe I can get them fixed?

SadieHawkins

@aphrabean yes! i have an old pair that has come right back in style, that i almost gave away a while back, and now they are cool again and i'm glad i kept them. tallish oxford loafer wedges. sharp.

warriorworrierwoman

@aphrabean yes yes oxfords!
or pretty much any preppy shoes would be good. dressy, cute, you can find cheap versions (believe me, i dress preppy-ish on a budget) and not feel like "towering". altho i don't know how valid my opinion is, since i liked the little pink sandals that the LW1 suggested, and thought "what is TOO lilly pulitzer? nothing could be TOO lilly pulitzer!"

kate.m

Oxfords! I'm also tall, and I avoided oxfords forever because of my irrational fear of looking mannish. But I recently went for it, and I love them! They're like Katharine Hepburn-sexy, which I can rock without feeling awkward.
Here's a cute pair that is out of LW's budget range (ugh, sorry), but just to convey the style: http://shop.nordstrom.com/s/everybody-bardino-oxford/3249475?origin=category&resultback=500

aphrabean

@warriorworrierwoman Ha! I consider my own aesthetic to be "ungracefully aging lazy hipster/hobo", so I think you can go in a bunch of directions with the oxfords! I myself think anything with a cinched waist or a vaguely vintage-y profile looks pretty amazing with oxfords. Pencil skirt, flouncy skirts, whatever. Also I love your love for Lilly Pulitzer.

roughe

@aphrabean can we get a link to these fabulous shoes, please?

aphrabean

@roughe Well, they look a lot like these here, but I think the detailing might be a little bit different. When I looked them up online when I first purchased them a few years ago, I was able to find an exact match but who knows where that went.

OxfordComma

@aphrabean : You sure can! Find a shoe repair place in your neighborhood, and take them to get resoled

oboe-d-amore

@aphrabean Even not tall ladies should all wear oxfords! They are the best.

For added authenticity(?), everybody, or at least all of the students, in Oxford itself are wearing oxfords right now.

MeghanElizabeth

What up pale, freckled, hazel-eyed sister! I love purple eyeshadow. Also pink, but I really only do purple-y smokey eyes for parties. I know this is the opposite of how the opposite colour stuff works, but I also really like olive-y green colours. Sephora has a super-fun chunky pencil that basically makes your eyes lids kinda gold. It makes me feel like Cinna.

The best part about having hazel eyes is that they change colour. Wear purple if you want to rock your green side and green/gold if you want scary-but-hot golden eyes.

olivebee

As an eye-makeup junkie (my GOD do I love to do eye makeup!) who wears it every day, I go through eyeshadows very quickly. So I tend to avoid palettes because the amount in there is so tiny, and instead I buy individual shadows in one of every color & type I like and/or use pretty often. This way you aren't committed to buying something that has 2 or 3 colors you like, but the rest go unused. I pretty much have one of every color of the makeup rainbow in eyeshadow and eyeliner.

Though, if you are dead set on a palette, definitely get one that has a mix of mattes and shimmers instead of all one or the other. Mixing the two, um, sheens (?) on your eyelid balances out the opposite one.

itmakesmewonder

I'm comfy with my height, except that I want to hide it in short shoes, and say disparaging things about the size of my head, but totally comfy, yes. Bring on the flats.

dj pomegranate

SHOES FOR TALL LADIES! I have so many thoughts on this, and here is my Best Thought: Go for an mid-height retro look (2"-2.5") in an awesome color (or with awesome accessories like shoe clips). I have some 2" peep-toes in hot hot pink and they are basically the best ever. Think Betty Draper does '80s neon. Comfy, low, easy to walk in, and flattering for larger feet. The fact that they are tailored (not flip flops, not heavy wedges) means they are absolutely NOT dowdy, the fact that they are a bit retro means that they are still hip/fun. Also you won't break an ankle like the chick in the platform shoes will. (I will try to report back this afternoon with links to examples!)

Ophelia

@dj pomegranate Oh, also - for anyone who has an Accessorize/Monsoon around - I've had good luck with their shoes, but if you're American you have to translate the sizes from British.

dj pomegranate

@Ophelia I have had astonishing luck ordering of yoox.com--same problem though, be sure of your size (WHY do people think that US size 10 = EU 41 when actually US 10 = EU 42!?), returns are a drag. Still, I've gotten two awesome pairs of 2" peep toes that fit like a dream, and there's a huge selection.

Ophelia

@dj pomegranate Ugh, yes. I just had that exact experience with a pair of flip-flops from Athleta? They were sized in A, B, C, D, and the instructions said that a "C" was a 9/10. Turns out that (based on the # on the bottom) was a 39/40 european. Sorry folks, that's an 8.5/9. Sad to say they're being returned.

oboe-d-amore

@Ophelia And sometimes a 39 is an 8! Definitely beware sizing charts.

MissO

Jane, I know this is a bit (a lot) demanding, but I would love to see Beauty Q & A every day. Please take this into consideration. You are just too damn wonderful. Thanks...

redheaded&crazy

@MissO Jane is so damn wonderful that I'm not really sure how any earthly being can be worthy of marrying her (I'm sure he is abfab though)

It was the kitten hugging video to time face washing that really got me. HOW CAN ANYBODY BE SO WONDERFUL!

Did it get really slumber party-y around here or is it just me?

EllyHigginbottom

I know everyone says that the more expensive eye shadow brands are better pigmented, but I'm poor so I reverted back to my 8th grade self and bought these Wet & Wild eyeshadow palettes and I LOVE THEM. They are so easy to use and I get tons of compliments on them (my eyes, not the eyeshadow palettes). They also tell you which shadow to put where, which I find helpful.

Here's what they look like:
http://www.walgreens.com/store/c/wet-n-wild-color-icon-eye-shadow-trio/ID=prod6015794-product

queenieliz

@EllyHigginbottom WnW eye shadows are the bomb...;) They are seriously some of the best eye shadows to be had at any price...I think I own almost all of the palettes.. Plus, it's more fun to play with makeup that doesn't seem like a mortgage payment!

Megoon

The Naked Palette from Urban Decay is the answer to almost all of anyone's regular (ie, non-crazy colors) eye shadow needs. I PREACH about this thing; plus it comes with a mini-bottle of their amazing (sorry Jane, I know you hate it) primer. The palette is fifty bucks and will last you until grandmahood. Every color is usable. LIVE IT LEARN IT LOVE IT! (there's a Naked 2 but I don't like it as much).

Oh, and that wash-your-face-for-a-full-minute tip is life-changing. It changed my face almost overnight.

thisisveronica

@Megoon totally agree! it's amazing! though I have both and find them both equally useful. love.

Party Falcon

@Megoon Someone mentioned elsewhere that Naked1 is warmer and Naked2 is cooler, so it's kind of a skin tone/preference thing, I think. I LOVE Naked2, but I'm as cool/ashy as you can get.

rainbowcookie

@Megoon YES. I recently bought this (the 1st version) and I LOVE it. Pretty sure I've worn every color over the course of a couple of weeks, and not felt clownish once.

bitzy

@Megoon It is not yet Friday. Why are you making me spend all my not-yet-earned allowance?

EpWs

@Party Falcon I'm pretty dead neutral/slightly cool toned and have Naked 2 and it is the best. The brush that comes with it is great (double-sided!) and I probably will never need any other eyeshadow ever.

Megoon

@The Everpresent Wordsnatcher The Naked 2 brush is way better than the one with Naked 1. Very true.

EpWs

@Megoon @everyone GUYS. I just started washing my face for loooooonger and I swear my skin is so soft and happy and glowy! And I'm on my period right now which normally means that my face explodes but NO. Magic! Jane is a magical lady!

retrovertigo

I love love love Kat Von D eyeshadow palettes. I have the neutral one called Saint, I probably bought it more than six months ago and I use it every day and it's hardly diminished. It was my first expensive makeup purchase (other than my bare minerals) and it has totally shown me the way.

TooCool4School

I have a serrrrious problem with over-buying Kat Von D pallettes but i love them all and the pigments are all bright and amazing!!!

Judith Slutler

What do you do to repair the skin under your nose when you have a cold and your nose is super chapped from 1000000000 kleenexes?

chelsaurus

@Emmanuelle Cunt I use Aquaphor interspersed with applications of jojoba or vitamin E oil.

area@twitter

@Emmanuelle Cunt awww that is STINKY. First I highly recommend getting the kind of Kleenexes with lotion or aloe or whatever in them, they preserve my tender schnoz when I am ill. Second...maybe just straight Vaseline, if you can? Particularly at night? And a little antibiotic ointment now and again?

thebestjasmine

@Emmanuelle Cunt What celsaurus said, and then you buy the expensive kleenex with aloe or lotion built into it the next time. It totally works.

Judith Slutler

@all, thank you! I actually bought aloe tissue but damn I am literally talking about 100000000 tissues here :(

Jane Marie

@Emmanuelle Cunt i really like this stuff, even though it says it's for lips: http://www.amazon.com/Neosporin-Health-Overnight-Renewal-Therapy/dp/B002P8OG4G

Nutmeg

@Emmanuelle Cunt Shea butter!!! I have a shea body butter from Bath and Bodyworks which was way-too-much ($26) and I am rationing the last of it now. But last cold I had I also was shoving lots of it in my nose to soothe the chappedness? Sorry, GROSS

Ophelia

@Jane Marie I mix bacitracin in with aquaphor (so, the at-home version of what you linked to, it seems), which seems to sooth without making my skin then break out just as it's started healing.

Ophelia

@Jane Marie I mix bacitracin in with aquaphor (so, the at-home version of what you linked to, it seems), which seems to sooth without making my skin then break out just as it's started healing.

sophi

@Emmanuelle Cunt Burt's Bees Miracle Salve! Also kleenex with lotion, which smells gross to me and has a weird texture to it, but it is sooo much more comfortable to use when you've been sick all week and your skin is flaking off everywhere.

punkahontas

@Emmanuelle Cunt BOROLEUM!!! It's life changing. My nose used to get so so red and sore and peely and chapped! And it would take so long to heal, even after the cold was gone. This stuff is amazing. Not all natural or fancy in any way, but it works so well!

Hellcat

@Emmanuelle Cunt I had a friend who swore by ChapStick once. I assume it was the plain kind. I always use this balm kind of stuff that was made by a company called BeeCeuticals that is now defunct, I think, but I'm sure there are similar things. It feels a little heavy and kind of waxy (probably, now that I think about it, exactly like what ChapStick would feel like if you smushed it), but my nose was fixed in one night. Unfortunately, I had a raging sinus infection for weeks, so that solution was short-lived and frequently repeated...

Aubergines

@Hellcat Yep - I just use plain old vaseline. Slathered on when at home, dabbed less grossly if in public. If you start it at the beginning of your cold, you won't go as red and cracked.

jigglemypuff

Sonia Kashuk's Eye Makeup Remover is the best thing I've ever tried and you can get it at target! ALSO, Urban Decay Naked Palette (I for warmer tones & II for cooler tones) is so beautiful for a palette!

olivebee

Urban Decay Eyeshadow Primer Potion is the greatest invention in history. That shit is AMAZING. Now that I brought it into my life, there is no way I am ever going back.

Megoon

@olivebee I used this before going out until 5am, getting stupid drunk, and passing out fully dressed. When I awoke, I felt like shit... but my eye makeup was still perfect. That stuff is FOR REAL.

dj pomegranate

@Megoon Best endorsement ever.

anachronistique

@olivebee When they started offering the squeeze tube I may have done a little dance.

thisisveronica

I want to perform the mascara challenge. With separate drugstore and bougie categories.

punkahontas

@thisisveronica I basically did it. The winner was Buxom. Finding it was the inspiration for starting my blog!

One thing I wish I had done was to write down notes for each mascara I tried, but my search started kind of casually and lasted a few years so I didn't. The other thing is, there are ALWAYS NEW MASCARAS. I recently tried a couple of tempting drugstore ones when I couldn't get to Sephora, but so far no one has stolen the crown.

zaharatish

LW1, don't listen to Jane (hi, Jane! ;). Every extra inch makes an enormous difference when you're sensitive about it. I'm 5"10 1/2 and I HAVE been called "lurch" in heels (that's a fun story for another time), but the point is that if us tall ladies are not comfortable being a head above every single person in the room, we're going to be miserable at our fancy functions in heels, and slouching in heels really really hurts the back. I do know tall ladies like me that CAN rock the heels-- they also happen to have other model-like qualities I lack-- but it sounds like you, LW1, are like me in that you don't want to go there. And if you are, the link to those Target heels made you quiver in terror for their tremendous height.

Let me tell you MY solutions: In winter, boots all the way. Nice boots can go with most dresses, but for those fancy occasions I do have some criminally low heels that I loathe. Summer is way more fun! So let me introduce you to the summer dress-occasion life saver: the low heeled peep toe wedge.
Here's one: http://bit.ly/HkcCrF

They're adorable, no one's grandma will accuse you of preparing for the beach, and you won't have to wobble anywhere on the stability of the wedge. I have about 8 pairs of this type of shoe, and I love them.

Good luck! And much solidarity-- being a tall lady can be great (hi, top shelf at the market!), but it can also be brutal. Your average 5'6 lady is going, "whatev, I'm 5'11 my awesome heels! it feels great!", but we'd rather blend in with y'all while we're in flats and you're in heels than spend an entire event having literally every single person come up to us and start a conversation about our towering statures. Because they will. And a gal can only hear so many "you should play basketball" and "have you ever modeled" comments before she wants to stab out her eyes.

Ophelia

@zaharatish Agreed. Also, I think it's totally fine to rock either a peep-toed flat, or some sort of embellished sandal in the summer. That said, I did have a pair of Merona wedges from Target that lasted for about 5 years, and they were super comfortable, so definitely try some on in Target?

(those shoes you linked to are super cute, though!)

warriorworrierwoman

@zaharatish those wedges are VERY CUTE!
i'm only reaching 5'8" now, in my late 20s, but my younger sister was 5'11" when we were in HIGH SCHOOL and she'd totally agree--it is not always awesome when people keep talkign about "wow you're just so tall!"

Carly Marie@twitter

@zaharatish YES! I am also 5'11, and while I love to rock very high heels on occasion, sometimes I am not feeling particularly conspicuous and would rather blend in with my averaged height and petite friends. My problem as of late is that EVERY pair of cute wedges and heels in shop windows right now has a ridiculous 1+ inch platform to go with the 3 to 4 or even 5" heels. I blame Snooki. And I love those wedges you linked to... I would take one in every color of the rainbow if that were an option.

Monkey

@zaharatish Girl. Yes. Can I just take a minute to beg everybody every to just, when a tall lady says "I don't want to wear heels because I am uncomfortable with them and everyone stares at me", just DO NOT respond to that with "NO HOW YOU FEEL IS WRONG AND NO ONE WILL STARE AT YOU AND HEELS ARE AWESOME" because you know what, a) everyone DOES stare, and b) if you're NOT a tall lady you don't know about the particular stare, which is 1) up at your head; 2) down to your feet to see how high your heels are; and then 3) back up to your face, with a faint expression of surprise, to check if you are really a lady and not a dude in drag. Sure, put on your high heels and feel awesome about it if you are a short lady and love the attention, but when you have that attention foisted on you every single day, it is not awesome.*

*Which is not to say that some tall ladies don't dig it, and they should rock on with their bad selves if they do but it is TIRESOME being told that you are wrong about how you feel about your own physical person.

Carly Marie@twitter

@Monkey Thank you, Monkey.

H.E. Ladypants

@Monkey Thank you, Monkey.

Once I wore very high heels to a dance in high school. Not a single guy danced with me that night because I was taller than almost every guy there. I mean, it was over ten years ago and I'm over it but tall ladies do have reasons for feeling self-conscious sometimes.

Also, like I said upthread, sometimes there are logistics. I don't necessarily want to dance with my boyfriend and have his head at my bosom.

queenieliz

@Monkey Yes! Yes! Yes!

zaharatish

@Monkey I don't think I've ever heard any person, anywhere, capture the Tall Lady State of Being as you just did. Brava!

LeafySeaDragon

@zaharatish PREACH! and sexy sandals with a kickass manicure > heels anyday!

rowbow

@Monkey a personal opinion... i am a 5'11" (and a half) lady, and although i loathed my height for much of my early teens, i now regularly rock those 5" heels. they make me taller than the rest of the room, taller than my boyfriend, and i do get a lot of "wow, you're tall" comments, but they make me feel empowered.

i was never going to be seen as short, no matter how much i slouched or how many flat shoes i wore. i'd rather accentuate what makes me unique rather than trying to be something i'm not. and i really loathe low heels.

that said! every lady is an individual lady. tall ladies, try wearing the big heels. if they make you feel horrible and monstrous, wear what you want (but please, always maintain the good posture.) if you like them, own them. if you don't, that is perfectly fine too.

Jen Alien-Spouse@twitter

@zaharatish I'm not super-tall, 5'8", but I hate wearing heels because I cannot run in them and who knows when the zombie apocalypse might break out?

I live in (lady-like) Doc Martens in the winter, and I particularly love my pair of black "Gianna" DMs (although, the website only has them listed in red now), they look like riding boots and work very well with skirts.

Summer is all about Converse, ballet flats and metallic silver flat sandals for me!

Party Falcon

OH! Call back to the thread about black mascara on blondes?

The new Diorshow in that dark brown called Mitzah is the shizz. And this is from a bird wedded to her black-black liner and mascara.

PistolPackinMama

@Party Falcon This is good information because the mascara I have is all clumpy and weird and I think I need some new stuff that doesn't just immediately give me three Liza Minnelli lashes.

Party Falcon

@PistolPackinMama On sale right now! Cheap(well, for Dior), the only bummer is that it's not waterproof, which is usually my jam.

lora.bee

@PistolPackinMama Oh my GOD, 'Liza Minnelli lashes' is the BEST description for clumpy mascara'd lashes. I love it.

Hellcat

@PistolPackinMama Yes to this. I like the mascaras that do not thicken the lashes, but just color them in, kind of. The trouble here is that their consistency can be too wet, and the color (if you're using brown) can take forever to show up.

New Hoarder

@Party Falcon Related to this, someone recommended blue mascara in that same thread. I went and bought Dior Azure Blue 258 (bright blue) Waterproof Mascara (b/c I like the black) the next day, thinking it would be too much for such a ridiculous color, but it's AWESOME. You can't tell unless you're up close in my face (which you're not allowed to be) that it's blue and it is. So. Flattering. I have super dark, long lashes, but I think black mascara is too harsh so I've been wearing the blue stuff to work!

ughwhocares

Need a good eye makeup remover? Get thee to thy local LUSH and buy 9 to 5 right now.

ETA: You can use that as a cleanser if you want but I prefer a different cleanser and this works perfectly as a makeup remover.

oboe-d-amore

@LadyHazard I really like their Ultrabland as a makeup remover too.

RocketSurgeon

I cannot sing enough praise for Philosophy's Purity facial cleanser/toner/make-up remover. I splash water on my face, put a dime-size drop on my palms, lather it around my face/eyes, and my makeup comes off clean. I wear eyeshadow, mascara and lipstick daily, but it works with heavier makeup too. You can wipe tissue across your lashes afterward and see nary a smudge. It's gentle, too. I've read that it was developed for use on burn victims before it became a commercial product.

I don't use waterproof mascara, but I can tell you that the full-face Dia de los Muertos-style skull makeup I wore for Halloween came off clean in two washes.

Jinxie

@RocketSurgeon Yes! This stuff is ah-mazing!

Jinxie

@Jinxie And that thing about it being developed for burn victims is interesting, I'd never heard that before.

RocketSurgeon

@Jinxie Well,don't ask me for a citation, but it wouldn't surprise me.

rainbowcookie

As someone who has a hard time with multiple skin prep steps and products (ok, it's really mostly laziness), finding out about BB creams has been life-changing. They're SPF, primer, moisturizer, AND tinted moisturizer in one! I'm currently using the Dr. Jart one, though Smashbox makes a good one too: http://bit.ly/GTTlwx

rainbowcookie

@rainbowcookie Adding that while BB creams are apparently huge in Asia (the first Google result is titled "What is BB cream and why are Asian women crazy about it?", after all) they're good for a range of complexions. Sephora has some good options: http://bit.ly/HeKfyF

LeafySeaDragon

@rainbowcookie i use a primer with my bb but YES BB CREAMS!!!!! (large pores and dryish skin)

punkahontas

@rainbowcookie LoveDr. Jart! He is totally my boyfriend.

hulia

@rainbowcookie I saw a thing the other day about BB creams and am fascinated. But completely forgot about them when blowing all my hard-earned cash at Sephora today. Next time!

punkahontas

@hulia They are so awesome, and there are a lot more available now. Even the drugstore brands are starting in on it. I just got a sample from Garnier that I'm going to review for my blog.

rainbowcookie

@punkahontas Hooray, BB creams for everyone! My favorite so far is the Dr. Jart one that has spf45 (your boyfriend makes some awesome products) but I'll definitely check out your Garnier review :)

Ophelia

@rainbowcookie I am intrigued, particularly if this exists in SPF 45!

rainbowcookie

@Ophelia the one on the left! http://www.sephora.com/browse/brand_hierarchy.jhtml?brandId=6014

AndSomethingElse

Wait, what? A minute? I'm a dude*. Do I have to wash my face for a whole minute too? I'm currently rocking about four seconds.

* It's the 21st century! So I should specify that I also do not wear makeup.

queenieliz

@Alexander Are you happy with your skin as it is? I'd say stay the course! If not, washing for a minute couldn't hurt! (If you live in a city I would say you have as much petroleum byproduct on your face at the end of the day as most make up wearing women)

AndSomethingElse

@queenieliz Ew! Really? EW! Gah. I am moving to Maine, for reals.

Good question. I'm pretty happy with my skin. Maybe I'll up it to 15 seconds. Thank you!

redheaded&crazy

@queenieliz D: ur joking rite

Ophelia

@redheaded&crazie Sadly, no. I have some of those face wipes (I take them with me when I travel), and every so often if I'm lazy, I'll just wash my face with one of them at the end of the day. And even if I'm not wearing any makeup, it comes off gray. Ugh, NYC. (@Alexander, if you want to be totally grossed out, steal one from a female friend/etc, and see what comes off your face.)

queenieliz

@redheaded&crazie Not really...I wear a white leather motorcycle jacket, which I can not keep clean. I clean it and then the next time I ride there is a noticeable grey film on the high points. If I drive a car with the window open, I suppose that same grey film is being deposited on my face. I mean, sure, the face has a self cleaning mechanism in the way of sebum production, but vehicle exhaust is still there....
I was kidding about the make up being petroleum by product, it's mostly not! some of it is even "natural":)

AndSomethingElse

@queenieliz I used one of those nose strip things once and was fucking horrified.

redheaded&crazy

@queenieliz ugh i'm filing this under things i wish i were still ignorant of.

i guess i should start washing my face for more than 4 seconds too...

lora.bee

@Alexander OWW my eyes water just thinking about nose strips!!

OxfordComma

@Alexander : Only if you can convince my boyfriend to STOP WASHING HIS FACE WITH THAT GODAWFUL IRISH SPRING, YOU SAVAGE.

I have feelings about this.

Hellcat

@Ophelia Oh, the Yes to Cucumbers wipey things are so nice:

http://www.amazon.com/Yes-To-Cucumbers-Towelettes-Natural/dp/B00367NWGI

You don't actually have to order them; they're in regular stores. And cheap! I left a whole unopened thing of these at the BFs for me (because he uses those horrid Noxzema pad things, which are painful, man!), and what do you know? The thing was half-empty when I went to use one (that man will not change his products ever, but he loves using other ones when they show up). They do get my mascara off... but I don't use a waterproof kind.

AnalogMetronome

@OxfordComma Oh god my boyfriend does this too and then he's all "why is my skin so dry and itchy in the winter?" and "why am I breaking out?!" and I say, "Look, boyfriend, I will go buy you some nice Neutrogena stuff, it is made especially for your face and comes in reasonably masculine packaging." and he just REFUSES. I don't understand! He claims he doesn't want to add a step to his morning shower. I don't know why it frustrates me so much, but it does.

OxfordComma

@MademoiselleML : Right??? SO. IRRITATING.

I've even tried the "oh, this would be so sexy" thing, to no avail.

MEN.

AndSomethingElse

@OxfordComma I use Body Shop face wash. I'm metrosexual! Or something.

@Alexander You're just not a savage.

Irish Spring? Please no. Just no.

OxfordComma

@S. Elizabeth : I KNOW.

I mean, I like the smell because I associate it with him, but it's so bad! And harsh! And full of icky!

@OxfordComma I like the smell, too, but because it smells like FRESHNESS. But the idea of putting it on my body is revolting, despite having used it in the shower multiple times. I like it after the gym when I'm suuuuper sweaty but then I kick myself because my skin goes all "WTF man? The harshest thing I see ever is that goddamn Philosophy stuff on your loofa, WTF ARE YOU DOING?" And then we have to talk it out with some heavy duty moisturizer and flannel pants.

I have a contentious relationship with my skin.

OxfordComma

@S. Elizabeth : HAahahahahahaha! Oh, God. I know *exactly* what you mean.

SadieHawkins

I am a VIB! AAAhhh. So much makeup. Anyway, look at this diagram of what heel sizes look like, in comparison to one another. Posture and leg shape is interesting. http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_pR0LkfarT2I/TI4y41fovEI/AAAAAAAACGc/QEXONgny4C4/s1600/007B1911BA8E5.jpg

As for eyeshadow, it's been a long time since I've wanted to do anything besides neutral palettes. I used to be neon eyeshadow lady until someone at Sephora showed me how - she was all, "No no, you can't wear blue if you want to wear red lips." I have one from Stila that is both shimmery and matte, which I wear with filled-in eyebrows and red lips.

Party Falcon

@SadieHawkins That diagram is fucking amazing. And a visualization about why I love heels.

That and how sexy and awesome it feels to walk in them and swing your hips. GoddessPF.

queenieliz

@Party Falcon er.. could someone translate the French? My HS French from ages ago isn't helping much, and I'm too lazy to type it into GoogleTranslate....Especially number 2?

Party Falcon

@queenieliz I didn't bother? I was really just comparing centimeters and leg shapes/postures.

But I'm sure someone will!

queenieliz

@Party Falcon Most of it's pretty self explanatory/I can kind of work it out..I just was wondering what a "balbutiment" is...

MilesofMountains

@SadieHawkins Everything above the 10 cm mark there has me cringing. This is a perfect example of why I will never own 5 inch heels.

Ophelia

@queenieliz It means something along the lines of "the first beginnings of femininity." Balbutiment is "stutter" but in the way that an engine kind of sputters to life? (a real French speaker might want to correct me here...)

Party Falcon

@Ophelia So maybe something like the English idea of 'babysteps'?

queenieliz

@Ophelia oh I like that! Thanks!

PistolPackinMama

@queenieliz Those last two look like illustrations of how to dance en pointe.

Chanticleer

@queenieliz Just typed it all into Google Translate because I was curious, and I may have missed the threshold of anyone reading this, but here you go:

The minimum allowable.
Infancy of femininity.
In progress, more work.
The average, could do better.
Mature.
The outcome.

Also as a dedicated flat-wearer that chart gives me cold shivers. Heels go on the ground, the groooound, what are you dooooooing. :(

queenieliz

@Chanticleer Aw sweet! I agree, flats or 1-2 inch heels only! The last image looks like some kind of fetish thing, not a real shoe fashion!

mackymoo

Also, just in case anyone doesn't believe Jane about MAKE UP FOR EVER HD liquid foundation, my skin has never looked this good! It could just the timing, but I usually walk around with at least one noticeable zit, but since I started with this stuff, my skin has been a dream. I'm not using a real primer, but Benefit's POREfessional (which is okay, not miraculous) but a little still goes a long way. Invest, ladies.

chevyvan

Eye makeup remover: Vaseline. It's the best ever! It costs $1.00!!! However, you do have to use it at night. You can't remove your eye makeup the next day and immediately try to reapply

Face Primer: Monistat chafing gel. It's the exact same thing as Smashbox primer, it really helps smooth out your skin to prep for foundation and keep it from getting too shiny, and it costs $5.00!!

queenieliz

@chevyvan Yay! the chaffing gel is the best! When I think of spending $30 on "Primer" vs. $5 for Monistat...

SadieHawkins

@chevyvan I keep hearing this (here?) and am so intrigued.

MoonBat

@SadieHawkins
It's the shizznit. Believe.

curryspice

@chevyvan - Yes! Agreed about the monistat, and I think I found out about it last year on one of these threads, every time I use it, I wish I knew which Pinner to thank!

chevyvan

@SadieHawkins & @curryspice Yes, I believe I read about it first here too. Also, because we're on the subject of stuff we read about here that totally worked, I have to give a shout out to the unknown pinner who recommended this DIY chemical peel. I have acne prone skin, and after using it once a week for about 6 weeks, my skin was clear for the first time since I was 13 years old, and it has stayed clear (with semi-regular use) for MONTHS!

http://www.amazon.com/Salicylic-Acid-Peel-30ml-Professional/dp/B000PLUZL8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1320181876&sr=8-1

nyikint

@chevyvan I use olive oil and it does the trick superbly too!

withatwist

@chevyvan Yes! The Monistat chafing gel works as well as the Smashbox regular primer for me! I bought my chafing gel online at drugstore.com because I was suddenly shy about browsing the lady-issues section. Thirteen again.

chevyvan

@aitch Yeah, I ordered it online. Maybe I'm 13 too, but I just didn't want to have the following convo with the kid behind the counter at Walgreens: "Yes, I'm looking for Monistat intimate chafing gel and I can't find it in the "feminine needs" aisle. No no...it's not what you think. I want to put it on my face."

pilcrow

@chevyvan Does anyone know how it works? I mean, what it is the monistat anyway?

RationalHatter

@aitch After switching to the chafing gel, I feel like the only thing you're getting with "real" primer is being saved from that embarrassment. And I'm not fancy enough to pay an extra $25 for that.
I bought mine at the drugstore because I wanted to prove to myself that I'm a grown-ass woman...but then whenever someone happens to see my makeup bag, I feel the need to explain profusely. Maybe I should cover it with stickers or something.

MoonBat

@pilcrow It's just a silicon gel. It's meant for the upper thigh area, where chafing occurs from thighs rubbing together in the summer. And it's great for the chafing you get from riding a bike, too. Aside from not containing fragrances, since it's meant for freshly shaved flesh, it is chemically identical to Smashbox PhotoFinish Primer.

Myrtle

@MoonBat What what? I've never heard of this. Aye Papi the tear-welling pain of chafed, then sweaty, thighs. And talc has just said Moar pain pls when I've applied it. So happy to hear of this gel.

meaux

@chevyvan. I want to use "it's not what you think. I want to put in on my face" in a conversation, any conversation, soon.

MoonBat

Can Jane recommend a waterproof primer for my smartphone, because "Kool Aid moustache" made me snort tea!!!

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I'm a 5'11" lady and my preferred mode of ass-kicking sexy shoe is a pointy-toed flat. But whatever footwear you go with, the key thing is to put 'em on in the morning and then cease giving a fuck. Apathy (to one's sartorial choices, once there is no way to change them for the day) is sexy.

queenieliz

@Kate Croy I was going to say Pointy toe flat! Round toe flats look too casual if you're trying to compete with 5" heels. (Do you have a source for pointy toed flats? I can't seem to find them anywhere....)

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@Kate Croy Shoot, those were supposed to be links! (English major)

jane lane

@Kate Croy I've gotten all my pairs at Target, but they seem to finally not be selling them anymore.

punkahontas

@queenieliz JCrew started making pointy toe flats, but they're a little spendy.

My favorites are Nine West's "Naughty" which have a rubber sole and are so comfortable! (Not fancy enough for a wedding though.) But they stopped making them! I hope they bring them back. I'm down to three pairs, and my favorite leopard ones are starting to look beat.

Hellcat

@Kate Croy I have been having the worst time lately finding a pointy-toe flat! I'm fine with the round, but the pointy is my favorite. Where they hell did they all go?

AnalogMetronome

@Kate Croy I am not a tall lady (5'6") but I too looooove pointy toe flats! Nothing makes an outfit look polished quite as fast as a nice pointy flat.

Gertrude

Am I the only tall lady who also has giant feet? Those shoes are all lovely, but they don't come in my size. :(

queenieliz

@Gertrude Isn't it conditionally required? Size 11/5'9" here...my 5'11" friend is a 10. My 5'3" friend complains that size 8 shoes are always sold out because it's the most common size, but they don't even make a lot of shoes in larger sizes.

Gertrude

@queenieliz I'm 5'11 and a 12 (sometimes a 13 in particularly strappy things). I'm attending four (!) weddings this summer, and am already dreading the shoe hunt.

itmakesmewonder

@queenieliz I have a friend who's 6'1" and a size 9 shoe and it's like. Pencil points. How does she balance.

queenieliz

@itmakesmewonder What now?! How is that possible?

Gertrude

@itmakesmewonder I would fall over all. the. time. I fall over a lot as it is.

rebecca@twitter

@Gertrude I have a friend who's 5'11 and wears size 7. I just DON'T UNDERSTAND how the physics (OR biology, tbh) of that works.

H.E. Ladypants

@Gertrude Ugh. There is nothing more demoralizing than finding a pair of shoes you really, really like only to hear, "oh we don't carry that size."

It's like fat-shaming but for feet.

Tragically Ludicrous

@Gertrude But I'm a size 9! And I pretend I'm 5'3" but in actuality I'm a bit shorter, I think.

itmakesmewonder

@Tragically Ludicrous On the other end, I have a friend who's like 5' or 5'1" who wears an 11! Commiserating with the shortest person you know about where to buy shoes: priceless

queenieliz

@H.E. Ladypants ugh!! Like we are supposed to feel bad about the size of our feet! ffffffffffff! I know exactly what you mean.

Tragically Ludicrous

@itmakesmewonder My feet grew really fast when I was about 12- I feel it was like 4 sizes in a year, but it probably wasn't. (It was fast, though!) And then they settled at a 9, so I thought I'd have a growth spurt like my dad's sisters, who are 5'9" and 5'11"...but that never happened. I just got a foot growth spurt.

Faintly Macabre

@Gertrude Hi, almost-twin! I have to order 95% of my shoes online, which extra-sucks because I'm essentially between a 12 and 13. I'm sure you know all the good brands by now, but Clarks sandals tend to fit me, don't look too old-lady-y, and are often comfortable.

I might be moving abroad in the next year or so, and I'm already strategizing about what shoes I'd bring, knowing there would be absolutely no women's shoes in my size there.

Exene

@Gertrude 5'10" here, size 7.5 feet, love heels. So I look like a chickadee in em, what?

Hellcat

@Faintly Macabre The other side isn't so great either. It seems like I always have to buy the stupid display shoe and hope that its hidden match looks about the same. And make sure to only wear big-and-clunky or abnormally pointy with the slightest of flared jeans. Sometimes you just want flip-flops with the flares!

Aubergines

@Hellcat Hey guys! LongTallSally.com (they ship from UK, US and Germany) do lovely good quality shoes, and go up to big sizes.

I'm 6'1" with US9.5 feet UK7s, and it has been remarked that I should fall over. I have a useful butt-counterweight.

queenieliz

@queenieliz ugh... I am sorry I made this comment, because as I look at it it sounds judge-y to me. It was just jealousy based on my feeling that anyone with smaller feet than me must have cuter shoes.

tea for all

that clean & clear foaming face wash is my favorite and i use it every night because it keeps my acne at bay and leaves your skin feeling squeaky-clean after you rinse, which i love, but triclosan is going to kill us all :( apparently when it mixes with the trace amounts of chlorine in tap water, it makes chloroform. anyone have good substitutes?

aubrey!

@tea for all They make a sensitive skin version! I think it might be the same, just without triclosan. It makes my skin feel nice and squeaky-clean as well, and I have gross oily skin. I had not heard that about the chloroform, but supposedly treated face washes aren't on your face long enough to be very effective anyway.

Nutmeg

SO I GUESS I need to start wearing primer. I don't waaaaant tooooo, I would rather spend my money buying something pretty you actually see, but whenever I put on powder I get so focused on glaring at my huge pores that putting makeup on has become hella time-consuming. I guess that is what I am doing with my $5 extrabucks at CVS?

Maybe this will also help with my very-vaguely-too-dark powder gradually turning more orange throughout the day? Because I have convinced myself it is just a chemical reaction with my skin secretions (ew) and not the fact that my skin color is actually "Translucent" (according to Philosophy).

Ophelia

@Nutmeg Have you tried just using the translucent powder? That's what I do, if I use it at all (v. pale redhead here).

tea for all

@Nutmeg i feel you on the orange powder. but if you're fair, i recommend going with the "translucent" shades for powder, and avoiding ALL makeup made by neutrogena, which is somehow uniformly as orange as possible. new york color (that N.Y.C. drugstore brand) makes a great, cheap "mineral" (actually just corn starch) powder that you can't detect once it is on your skin, and a little goes a long way.

also i'm confused by your makeup-application routine. at what stage are you putting on powder? powder should go dead last... unless you chose to spend $40 on one of those makeup-setting sprays like i did, then THAT goes dead last. also, pores are pores are pores, and once they're been embiggened they aren't going to get smaller, so just swipe some foundation across that ish and hold your head high.

Nutmeg

@Ophelia Using just the translucent powder (or any powder on its) settles into my pores too much, I've found. I have a lot of facial scarring and widened pores from years of cystic acne, and while that's gone my face has a lot of patches of red/purpley scarring that powder alone doesn't cover enough to my liking. I just want my face to look a little less-scarred as well as not being totally obvious I'm wearing powder (I've also tried foundation + powder and that looks like too much on my skin tone).

Party Falcon

@Nutmeg Powder/Foundation can MOST assuredly oxidize throughout the day. And the oxidization just isn't the same for everyone, even with the same product.

There is far far far too much makeup in this world to go around with powder that is very vaguely too dark. Shop around. Go to Sephora, explain about the oxidizing and find something new to try. And get comfortable with returning stuff when if doesn't work!!

Also, as mentioned upthread, if you're looking for cheap primer, the Monistat Chafing Gel is an almost exact match for the standard Smashbox primer. So as long as you're good with the smashbox, it'll be a fine substitute. But as Jane said, you don't necessarily need it. Find a good powder/foundation first and THEN go to primer if you still feel like you need to spackle.

Ophelia

@Nutmeg Hmm. Gotcha. I don't have obvious pores, but in the winter (when my skin is drier anyway), I just wear foundation and skip the powder, if that might work? YMMV!

Nutmeg

@tea for all I can't find a foundation that doesn't look extremely obvious on my skin (or I haven't yet) so right now I am settling for tinted moisturizer, some concealer, and powder on top.

Party Falcon

@Nutmeg Your process sounds fine! More than enough for most people most days. I'm repeating myself, but you just need a powder that won't oxidize on you.

LeafySeaDragon

@Nutmeg st sephora they will match your foundation, i ended up with a color i would have NEVER bough but is perfect. i'm in the fair/transuluscent catagory but i have some sallowness and freckles. i LOVE the clinique bb cream.

Lily Rowan

@Nutmeg Why do you need the powder? Just checking.

OxfordComma

@Nutmeg : I've had good luck with Boots Cosmetics translucent powder (Target, wutwut!)--and I have similar skin issues, right down to orange-ing.

Primers *definitely* help.

MoonBat

@Nutmeg
www.coastalscents.com
Buy their rice powder and/or silicon microspheresin bulk, and their tinting powder, mix the color in until it disappears on your skin in sunlight. Super cheap, TOTALLY non-irritating.

carolita

@Nutmeg I find that the best thing to do is just use a tiny bit of concealer/brightener if needed under the eyes (benefit's Ooh La Lift), a bit of gel or cream blush, then just powder on the t-zone, overlapping a bit over the rest of the face, but not solidly. I use Bare Minerals powder (I actually have to blend two different loose powders in one jar to get my shade which is the fate of many a hybrid human like me with olive mixed with white skin, making me a pale olive, but not quite yellow, more like green...). But once I've powdered, that's it. The nice thing about the Bare Minerals that I use, is I use the one that has a natural SPF in it due to titanium oxide in the mix, so I feel protected, too. (I stopped using the chemical SPFs when I heard about them entering the bloodstream, yuck). Also, mid day, or end of day, to refresh my makeup, I just add more powder. Bare Minerals works well that way, it doesn't look worn out, it layers for opacity. You can start light, and add more later as needed. Which one often does by the end of the day...

redheaded&crazy

K so I'm 5'8 which is pretty tall, quite tall when you add 4" heels and I have basically decided that I'm not going to buy any more 4"ers. Between me and the collection I inherited from my sister I've got plenty! They are cute! They will last forever because I wear them so infrequently.

Now I need to work on my collection of 2" heels! I have a pair that I have worn into the ground this winter and really I think they are the perfect balance. They give you the posture and click-y sounds to compete with the rest, and they keep you on a reasonable height level!

Also they are invariably way more comfortable. On new years I wore 2" heels and granted I was literally the only person not in 4" heels but I danced my ass off while everybody else was complaining about their uncomfortable shoes and limping around!

TALL GIRL WIN!

dj pomegranate

@redheaded&crazie But whhhyyyyy aren't there as many cute 2" heels as there are 4" heels!? I am 5'8" also and a solid size 10 and there are just so many more 4"-5" platform heels than there are cute, 2"-3" heels. I AM IN THE MARKET, SHOE MAKERS! I will spend my money on 2" heels!!

redheaded&crazy

@dj pomegranate ugh I know, this is a problem. granted. :(

Ophelia

@dj pomegranate YES! And why does everything have a freakin' platform? There are so many shoes I'd wear (also 5'8" size 10) with a 3-inch heel, but they're really 4" because of the platform.

redheaded&crazy

@Ophelia aw you people are my people! (I'm also size 10)

I don't spend a whole lot of money on shoes, but I would spend more if there were more 2" heels to be had!

dj pomegranate

@redheaded&crazie As a fellow all-night-dancer-in-2"-heels, I salute you! How am I supposed to hold a vodka sour and dance to Journey in 5" stilettos?

Megoon

@dj pomegranate This really kills me. I'm short, but I refuse to go above 2" heels (just because I'm short doesn't mean I don't want to be able to walk, shoe makers of the world), and I have found 1-2 pairs of 2" heels that weren't designed for my mom.

ample pie

@Ophelia: Seriously! Every shoe brand that I can afford has giant 2" platforms under the ball of the foot, and then like a 5" heel on top of that. Now, I'm only 5'7", but my husband is the same height, and while I don't mind being a wee bit taller, I prefer not to dwarf him.

Now, I have seen some beautiful Jimmy Choos and Stuart Weitzmans with kitten heels, but unless I win the Mega Millions on Friday, I'm not there yet.

OxfordComma

@dj pomegranate : I DO!

But with a thicker heel.

Because 5" heels make me swing my ass like you ain't never seen before. :)

Does Axl have a jack?

@redheaded&crazie This is way late, but... these. They're comfy and come in about eleventy colors.

redheaded&crazy

also I am that person who wears lipstick, blush, eyeliner, and mascara only. except usually no lipstick or blush either.

whatever i make it work probably

panquecito

@redheaded&crazie // "whatever i make it work probably" literally runs through my head pretty much every morning when i look in the mirror before i leave my apartment. soul sister?

redheaded&crazy

@elenachicago sometimes (most times) not even eyeliner! YEAH! YEAH!

soul sisters.

Her???

@redheaded&crazie me! me! eyeliner, mascara, blush, carmex...I'm definitely makin' it work

mademoiselle

I never wear lipstick because I hate that it rubs off when I eat, but I love wearing it. I'm gonna buy the shit out of that primer.

 
Jinxie

@nyikin Because that gives us one less opportunity to go to Sephora and impulse buy more stuff we don't need.
[And by "we" I mean me. Thanks to this thread I'm finally coming to terms with my status as a Sephora VIB. I've been trying to convince myself it's nothing to be ashamed of, but...I'm not entirely sure that's true.]

Party Falcon

@Jinxie VIB, VIB, VIB!

punkahontas

@Jinxie I am proud to be a VIB and have my online shopping cart all ready to go for the 15% off sale that starts TOMORROW. Wooot!

Jinxie

@punkahontas I purposely deleted the email I got about that sale, but I just remembered I'm almost out of face cream so I need to go and check if it's still in my email trash.

punkahontas

@Jinxie My flat iron is dying, so I've been waiting for a sale. Of course, a few other things found their way into my cart...

hulia

@punkahontas WAIT. Talk to me about this sale. Is this only for VIBs?

punkahontas

@hulia I just checked the email, it's just for VIBs. :(

OxfordComma

@punkahontas : SALE!!!!!!!!

punkahontas

@hulia Sorry, this is a day late, but from a DIFFERENT email it looks like Beauty Insiders can get the 15% off too. I think the VIBs just got access to the sale 1 day early and a free umbrella.

cliuless

LW3: Bioderma Crealine! (aka Sensibio sometimes)

it seems like it's pricy, but it lasts for so freaking long, that it works out in the long run. i've been on the same bottle since AUGUST and i'll probably be well into the summer before i run out. it looks like water and it's super gentle. basically, i just throw some on cotton pads and put them on my eyes spa-cucumber-style for a minute. everything will melt right off and whatever doesn't, you can wipe off.

Carly Marie@twitter

LW1, this is why I love Zappos, which lets you sort their shoe collection by heel height, so you don't even have to look at all those pretty pretty shoes with crazy high heels. There are a ton of cute wedges and sandals in the 1-2" heel range. --From a sister in tallness. PS, these are .5" above your stated cut off, but they are so cute: http://www.zappos.com/lauren-by-ralph-lauren-cecilia-black-shantung and so cheap, and I want 10 pairs for summer!

Carly Marie@twitter

@Carly Marie@twitter These are even better, and only 2" heel! And I really need to stop looking at Zappos, agh! http://www.zappos.com/bella-vita-sangria-black-silk?zlfid=111&recre welcome, LW1.

Ophelia

@Carly Marie@twitter OMG the yellow ones!

Faintly Macabre

@Carly Marie@twitter Ooh, I have a pair of Bella Vitas that I really like and seem really well-made, but they are about .3" too small.

Also, these aren't sandals, but they're pretty spring/summer-y and a 2" heel, which I like because it still gives you some of the benefits of heels without being tough to walk in. They're about 2x the price elsewhere. I have a pair of their pumps, and they are very well-made shoes.

Carly Marie@twitter

@Faintly Macabre Those are amazing. Love the retro vibe.

Hambulance

But all I wear are kitten heels...

redheaded&crazy

@Hambulance haha I'm wearing kitten heels right now! And I'm going to continue to do so because I love these shoes! but notice she qualified it by saying if you care about being "in" or not, which I do not.

queenieliz

@redheaded&crazie I can't help it when you mention wearing heels or liptsick, I picture your avatar doing that...

redheaded&crazy

@queenieliz just so you know, that is A-OK with me

mmmmmmm rupert grint in drag

Hambulance

@redheaded&crazie Let's stay "out" in our kitten heels forever.

redheaded&crazy

@Hambulance done! *pinky swear* *and lock it*

slutberry

Guyyyys, I can't wear eyeshadow. I have not yet figured it out. I have dark eyes and kind of an olivey skin tone, only it's also fair? With blue tones? I dunno. And it tans really brown in the summer. And I have those inherited middle-eastern permanent dark circles under my eyes, and eyeshadow always just makes me look like a zombie, unless it's super sheer and gold or copper. WHAT DO I DOOO?

@teffodee Wear sheer and gold and copper. No, seriously. All over your eyelid. Stila makes really nice colors (I use "Sun," but I'm also a pale little monster), and all-over neutral shimmery is always lovely.

slutberry

@S. Elizabeth I do that, but I am jonesing for more colours? Do I just need to give up on colours?

Shayna

@teffodee Maybe try mixing a green in with your browns? As a highlight on the middle part of your eyelid, blended into your browns and coppers? I don't know what blue tone means though so that might not work- I googled and it gave me Rosario Dawson? XD

Emi at Project Swatch

@teffodee Don't give up on color! Maybe you are a similar skintone to this woman? Check out her eye looks. http://www.sarahassansblog.com/search/label/EOTD

Also try using concealer under your eyes, perhaps, to tone down the dark circles - I find that I need to even out my skin more for dramatic looks than I do for neutral looks.

slutberry

@Emi at Project Swatch Gah, I used to wear concealer every day, and it just always looks flaky and bleh. The skin there is so delicate, concealer just never sits right. Is there some magic concealer I should know about?

Her skintone looks similar, but I can't reaaaallly tell. I think I'm a bit fairer.

LeafySeaDragon

@teffodee i can't wear eyeshadow either! but if you find a color that looks good, just rock it!

MilesofMountains

@teffodee I might have a similar skin tone? Although I'm not entirely sure who to blame for the dark circles. I use a lot of concealer, and then mostly stick with the gold/brown/copper tones. I really like a couple of MAC colours I have, in particularly Honeylust (gold), Cork (tawny brown) and Expensive Pink (gold-coral), which is odd because gold, brown, and coral are not colours that look good on me clothing-wise.

@teffodee Use primer (Smashbox Photo Finish is awesome) and then use Makeup Forever HD foundation and get it allllll the way up under your eyes. Add some extra if you need it.

slutberry

@S. Elizabeth PRIMER. I should have known.

queenieliz

@teffodee I've heard really great things about the YSL Touche Eclat (though it's crazy expensive and I can't say I've used it) (Milani, a drugstore make up brand make a concealer that has been compared to it, which I have used and it does wonders with my dark under eye area) The important thing is to use the opposite color of the area you're masking so for purple circles use orange(peach) yellow toned concealers will just look ashy. And Illuminating products really help with the eye area too.

Helen Stanley

@teffodee I think my coloration is similar to yours. I've found that wearing fairly pigmented shadows makes the difference (I'd previously shied away from them because I'm a pretty pale olive). I like Stila; I often use kitten (peachy champagne) as a base, maybe a beige or taupe on the lid, and then a color blended into the crease (as described in Jane's tutorial for office eyes) or over the lid or applied wet along the lashline for a party/weekend look. I'll do moss, forest green, stone, aubergine, violet, plum, bronze, even blue (as in Nars Persepolis, usually in the summer, often with gold highlighting the inner corners of my eyes). As long as it's pigmented, it works fine, but if it isn't, it makes me look gray and chalky.
My favorite colors right now are the ones in the Stila palettes "In the Moment" and "In the Garden"

candybeans

@teffodee I have some jank-ass dark circles all the time and have been wearing concealer since i was wee to try and hide them. I don't always get it right (oh, hello pictures from Formal where I look like a reverse raccoon!), but I've had a lot of luck with brighteners like Clinique's Air Brush and Touche Eclat (though mama's too poor to get that stuff on the reg). Lately, I've been layering a lighter concealer (Clinique's All About Eyes) in little dabs over one that's closer to my skin tone (Tarte 4-in-1, which i wouldn't necessarily recommend on its own) to get the same brightening effect. I've given up on the thicker, paste-y concealers that often get pitched as being so great for under eyes.
TL, DR-- I have a lot of Concealer-Based Thoughts; don't give up on it yet! Similarly to Emi, I find it sets off darker eye makeup nicely.

queenieliz

@Emi at Project Swatch holly moly she does some amazing bright eye looks! That's an inspiration to anyone to wear more colors!

cloudburst

I remove my mascara with Vaseline. I dunno how good that is for my eyes, and I kind of get mascara on my towels afterwards, but it's the only thing that doesn't burn my eyes. Even the hypoallergenic stuff was painful.

Bambi

Nars eyeshadow primer is the BOMB. I have creasy/greasy eyelids and my eyeshadow stays for at least 10 hours before I notice any missing patches. I also recommend, for people with dull lifeless skin, using Neutrogena's Clean & Clear salicylic acid gel. It removes all of the dead skin cells and makes your skin look fabulous (and I'm old, so the difference is noticeable). I use it twice a week, because I have dry skin, but you can use it every day, if it works for you.

hedgehog

@Bambi You mean all over? Salicylic acid all over? This makes so much sense the way you put it and yet seems terrifying.

(also old)

I just got a Nars eyeshadow primer sample from somewhere, plan to compare it to Urban Decay asap.

cliuless

@hedgehog this is exactly how i got hooked on the nars primer.

Bambi

@hedgehog I use it on my face and neck. It's a 3% solution, so it's not as harsh as you'd expect. If that's too harsh, then I'd use Paula's Choice products. She has both the Alpha Hydroxy version and the Salicylic acid products. Even though the Alpha Hydroxy version is supposed to be less intense, I feel it more and don't like the burning that I feel.

Emi at Project Swatch

The diorshow mascara primer you linked to is AMAZING. I have a sample of it, and I only bother with it when I'm going out at night, but it basically doubles my eyelashes. AMAZING I SAY.

Emi at Project Swatch

Also, plain jojoba oil works really, really well to remove waterproof mascara.

raised amongst catalogs

@Emi at Project Swatch PREACH.

Shayna

I adore Kat Von D's eyeshadow palettes! I bought a green-gold-brown one (and it comes with black too which is nice) ages ago and it has been my best friend. Seriously, they are awesome and provide enough range to do a nice blend. Cannot emphasize how awesome the palettes are enough.
(But frankly, there is much less effort involved in just wearing eyeliner and mascara and it still looks awesome. Go for it.)

LeafySeaDragon

i LOVE foundation primer, it was lifechanging, i actually like putting on makeup most days because it made that huge of a difference, i use tarte clean slate! (i use half the foundation i was)

i also love love urban decay eyeshadow primer.

Leanne

LW1, nude flat sandals! Here is a pair at J.Crew:
http://www.jcrew.com/womens_category/shoes/sandals/PRDOVR~64869/64869.jsp

In dusty clay.

I have a similar pair from last year and they served me well as "fancier than flip-flops but it's too effing hot to wear heels" shoes.

Bed Monster

This is by no means a budget option for makeup removers, but the MAC Cleanse Off Oil is really wonderful. You rub it into your skin without wetting your face, and it takes off literally everything. I use heavy duty eye primer, waterproof mascara, and pretty much every other spackle that keeps that crap on my face. It cuts through all of it, and the best part is that you just add your normal face cleanser (or just use this as a face cleanser if you want) on top and wash it all off together with water. I've used stuff like Lancome Bi-Facil (usually considered the end-all-be-all of amazing eye makeup removers), and this is so much easier/more useful. I've had trouble finding a way to get all my makeup off at once without burning through a million cotton pads, and this is it. A 1.0 fl oz bottle will set you back $10 (this only comes in the "Tranquil" version, though, which is meant for drier/more sensitive/aging skin), and a 5 fl oz bottle costs about $30. I use the Tranquil version because my skin is sensitive/on the drier side, and it's great. Also, my skin has been very finicky/breakout prone lately, and this stuff doesn't bother it one bit.

Bed Monster

@Bed Monster Correction: The Tranquil version is the only one available in a 1.0 fl oz travel style bottle. There are 1.0 fl oz bottles of the original version available with a pump online, and you may be able to find it in the store, too.

Steph

What if you're not super tall you just loathe walking in high heels and fall down a lot? <3myflats.

LeafySeaDragon

i would LOVE an eyebrow tutorial! i've just started darkening my brows and it makes a huge difference, but there are all sorts of eyebrow only products and they confuse me!

nevernude cutoffs

@LeafySeaDragon I'm not eyebrow filler-inner expert, but I did try the Stila Eyebrow Pen thing at Sephora based on a recommendation, and it is seriously amazing. It went on super smooth, and looked really natural, where other products I tried were not matching up at all. Try before you buy!
(http://www.sephora.com/browse/product.jhtml?id=P292501)

msmsms

Jane is great, but what?
"Keeping in mind that there's almost no way for anyone, no matter how tall, to not look a little 'dumpy' in comparison to a hottie in stacked wedges . . . ."
False! I'm bothered by the overstatement (and its normative implications). I often rock flats; am in no way "dumpy." And certainly not dumpy next to someone in tacky ass heels. Stacked wedges aren't always winners, and Target leopard print heels definitely arent doing it for me.

nancydrew

@msmsms Oh God, I've been reading all the comments waiting for someone to say this. THANK YOU. I'm only 5'4" and enjoy my heels on occasion, but they aren't the only attractive option. I have seen plenty of people who look elegant in flats and others who look like trashy hookers in their big ol' tacky heels.

nancydrew

Also, I'm admittedly no fashion insider, but I see Zooey Deschanel wearing kitten heels all the time, and they look adorable on her.

msmsms

@nancydrew I just bought 1.5" patent pumps (a woman has to walk occasionally), and I have a hard time believing that they're unacceptably unfashionable.

I don't read Jane for feminist commentary, but her casual internalization of "heels = hottie!" was jarring. She obvs shouldn't have to caveat all her beauty and fashion advice, but a touch more skepticism/criticism (awareness?) or knowing winking would be welcome.

suzabellajones

@msmsms YES!!! I was scrolling, scrolling, scrolling looking for the thread where everyone talks about how tacky 5" heels are! They only look right on drag queens IMHO. I always think it looks cooler when you have cute shoes on AND you look like you could have walked to wherever you are (and can walk off at a moment's notice).

It makes me super uncomfortable that when people turn to Jane for advice and specifically say they don't want to do a particular high femme thing, she's like, nope, sorry, that's the only way to be!! In Ask a Dude we would all be like, "this dude is the WORST."

smack

So you guys! This isn't really a question but more of a I AM SO PROUD OF MYSELF but also yikes!

I just cut my own hair, I mean cut the holy goddamned out of it. I did like the ponytail method of layering? Followed by some razoring of the shorter layers using my husband's razor? I don't know what possessed me but now I don't really know how to style long hair. Before it was blunt and my hair is thick as hail so it's thinner but it's still pretty long so I guess I do have a question.

How do you style layered hair? I'm trying to grow out my bangs and I used to always wear it up but besides "put some sea spray in it and hope for the best" I don't have a lot of ideas. I am bad at blowdrying as my hair frizzes like whoa, and also I should mention I am flying to Europe tomorrow so I can't be like spending 5 hours trying to do a blowout. This might have been a too-impulsive idea.

OxfordComma

@smack : Flat iron or curling iron to tame the weirdo sticking out bits?

OxfordComma

@smack : Also, EUROPE.

!

LeafySeaDragon

@smack blow dry spray helps with frizzing - i have babyfine flat hair and my fave styling products are waxes when it super short and spray gels for when it's long.

Megasus

I don't know what VIBBBB ISSSSSSS!? But I have a shitton of makeup of all kinds, so I guess I probably am one.

redheaded&crazy

@Megan Patterson@facebook in my head it stands for Very Important Beauty (Queen)

Jinxie

@redheaded&crazie Actually you're...correct. :( You can sign up for this free Beauty Insider card that assigns you a "point" for every dollar you spend, and if you have x number of points you get a freebie. And if you spend over...a certain amount of money (I'm actually not sure what the $ figure is, and I'm afraid to find out)...you get bumped up to VIB status where you get special sales and stuff. It's shameful, really. (BUT AWESOME.)

Jinxie

@Jinxie Oh, I should have specified that this is through Sephora, in case you didn't know that. Stupid store. Like a candy shop for vain grown up ladies.

Megasus

@Jinxie Oooh I am not then, because I don't shop at Sephora enough. I am an independant VIB!

Party Falcon

@Jinxie I think it $350 in a year. I think. Maybe $500?

Is it sad that we don't know and have spent that much? (Yes, yes it is. Bad, spendthrift Party Falcon.)

OxfordComma

All right, fine.

Immaget me some of that lip primer because I kid you not,
lipstick flakes and crusts and generally gets hella nasty within 30 minutes of application on mah mouth.

WTF, lips?!?!

You are the opposite of sexy!!!

Also,
Urban Decay's Primer Potion?

AMAZING.

Bed Monster

@OxfordComma Try exfoliating your lips with sugar and olive oil (or jojoba oil, or peanut oil, or whatever) before you slap some lipstick on. Also, it's a good idea to put lip balm on and let it sink in while you're putting all your other makeup on/doing your hair/getting ready, and then wipe some of it off before putting on lipstick. Those are two things that really help me out in terms of keeping lipstick looking nice and smooth.

ohyeahmetoo

i never wear eye shadow because i don't know how, etc. but also because i wear contacts and whenever i have eye shadow on i feel like my eyes are irritated all day. like little bits of dust are constantly falling into my eyes. is this something primer would help with or should i just give up?

OxfordComma

@ohyeahmetoo : Sure will! And seriously, get a *good* mascara.

Oh, I sometimes find that my eyes will be irritated by glittery or shimmery eyeshadows, because the little flecks will get into my eyes throughout the day. The primer (Urban Decay) has totally stopped that from happening.

Megasus

@ohyeahmetoo It's more likely your mascara, I pretty much have to wear a more "natural" formula (currently Cover Girl Nature Luxe) if I'm gonna wear it at all.

Maladydee

@ohyeahmetoo for me, I had to switch to hypoallergenic makeup to avoid that, and if I'm wearing my makeup for more than 8 hours that gritty feeling creeps up anyway, but not as bad. So maybe primer+hypoallergenic stuff is my permanent fix?

LRMG

All these suggestions for eye makeup remover are good but I still feel the grease film on my lids and cannot deal. So I use Baby Shampoo. Just a dab, works like a charm.

LRMG

@LRMG To clarify, when I am washing my face at the sink at night. Going on dry I am assuming would not work so well.

Aubergines

@LRMG Seconded.

AllicatSimmons

To the tall young woman, I am 5 11' marrying a man who is 5 8'. If you love flats because of comfort thats great but its a bad idea to let your perceptions of others perceptions ground you, especially when half of them are thinking wow i wish i was that tall or i would like to climb her like a tree. My advice is a special occasion heel of 2 - 3 1/2 inches that you find physically comfortable and love and get over the concerns relating to towering over those around you. You need to work with what ya got and learn to own it. Tall girls always stand out but we should not be left out.

needsmoresalt

There is nothing that could make me buy something from Kat von D. I just never think, "I really need to emulate the style of a woman who's all about post-Sandra Jesse James and thinks swastikas are funny." And I know that she probably has nothing to do with the creation of her make-up, but still. Also I have trouble believing her eyeshadow is actually that amazing. The packaging certainly isn't.

queenieliz

@needsmoresalt (don't tell Jane, but it's really just re-branded Sephora house brand anyway.... or so I've heard.)

maillard

I am too late for this to be helpful to anyone, I suspect, but just in case...

I also LOVE those Almay oil-free eye makeup remover wipes. They are really great for normal everyday eye makeup removal. However, for when I've done some sort of fancy eye situation with intense eye liner for going out, I need something more. I've found that trying to get it off with just the oil-free wipes leads to me scrubbing my eyes and making them sad.

Here are my two preferred ways to remove Big Eye Makeup:
1. Pretty much the method Jane describes, but I like to use Fresh Soy face cleaner. So gentle, but effective! I have never actually bought this, I've just gotten a zillion samples from Sephora (I hit VIB status in under two months... thanks, Jane, I used to not even wear makeup at all before I started watching your tutorials and now I very importantly buy lots of it all the time). I don't know that I go for a whole minute, which might be why I usually need to do one last swipe with the wipes.
2. Use the regular (not oil-free, in the blue container) Almay wipe first. These are basically mineral oil? Which is gross, but wow does all makeup come off. I also sometimes press a q-tip into the jar of these to clean up eye makeup mistakes (I am new to makeup and make lots of mistakes). Anyway, these will make your eyes super greasy and everything will be a smeared-up scary oily mess. Gross. But then I use the oil-free (purple container) Almay wipes to clean up the greasy smeary mess. Perfect!

PNT
PNT

Oh sweet christ. That video. That kitten. Yeah, I came for the beauty tips, but I stayed for the fur-for-all. I'm just saying, eye shadow, primers, yeah sure, Sephora VIB, me too...but that kitten...I can't concentrate.

marianlibrarian

@PNT I CAME TO SAY THE SAME THING. Sorry for yelling. I just...got excited. zomg those cats!!!!!!!!!!
Also, love the makeup advice. I love girly, pretty things and accessories, but often find myself with things that I don't know how to use... <3uJane

florabora

I am here to tell you all how great Benefit's Stay Don't Stray eye primer is. So good. I don't like UDPP.

TheMongreloid

Yessss, I have been waiting for a Beauty Q&A to pass along the most wonderful beauty secret I have discovered since Jane's How to be a Girl videos: BEAUTY BLENDER. http://sephora.com/browse/product.jhtml?id=P228913&categoryId=S4600&shouldPaginate=true

GUYS JUST DO IT. I mean, they are expensive? But worth it I think. It applies my foundation FLAWLESSLY and the sephora comments are all true. And they're supposed to last forever and if it gets a tear they will replace it for free (so say the Sephora commenters)

Beauty blender + Makeup Forever's HD foundation = MOST PERFECTEST FACE EVER.

Also, love the Kat Von D palettes, but beware, the black WILL crumble and get everywhere.

meaux

@excitablegirl. I got one of the Beauty Blenders in my Birchbox shipment a couple months ago. I don't use foundation, so I gave it to someone in my office who does, and she reported amazing results too. Somehow it makes foundation stay on your face longer(??).

Bzee10

For the woman who wants to remove ALL her eye makeup: Head to the kitchen. Olive oil. Olive oil olive oil olive oil. I can't say it enough. Olive oil.

Two things about olive oil: 1. Because its 100% oil, it will remove EVERYTHING!! 2. Even though it is 100% oil, it has not clogged my pores at all. I googled it a bit, and got mixed results on whether or not its officially noncomedogenic. However, I use it chiefly for my stubborn waterproof eye makeup (and not my whole face) and I also have very sensitive skin but haven't had any problems with using olive oil for this purpose. I put a few drops on my fingers or a cotton pad and massage it around my eyes for 30 sec and *poof* its gone. Then I follow up with a gentle cleanser to remove most of the olive oil from my skin (and generally wash the rest of my face), pat dry, and moisturize. Voila.

OxfordComma

@Bzee10 : Coconut oil, too!

angela codjoe@twitter

I use Lancome's line of cleansers and bam, i havent had to worry about morning after mascara or skin issues for months. http://www.lancome-usa.com/Gel-Pure-Focus/1000200,default,pd.html?start=8&cgid=skincare-cleansers-toners

shadowkitty

Is it wrong that the thing that makes me saddest about the first one is that nobody knows who Lurch is anymore? :(

@shadowkitty I know who Lurch is! The butler from The Addams Family!!!

queenieliz

@shadowkitty we all know who Lurch is (some of us even had crushes on him! ahem @carolita ahem)

Katrina Hall@twitter

WASHING MY FACE FOR A FULL MINUTE HAS CHANGED MY LIFE. That is all.

EpWs

@Katrina Hall@twitter ME TOO OMG

Jane Dough

I am also a kitten-heel-hating tall woman. This is my go-to type of heel when I need to be dressy but not tower over my husband ( like for example, our wedding):

http://a2.zassets.com/images/z/1/4/9/1490805-p-DETAILED.jpg

marisaissleepy

I always buy my PALETTES (love that word) around the holidays. They have the best combinations and best deals, and sometimes they come in festive packaging. Doing the math on combo sets/palettes vs. individual products makes me never able to buy single again. As far as eyes go, this link has never steered me wrong. And duh, Urban Decay Naked palette forever and ever and ever. The first one if you like warm tones on your skin (golds, etc) the second one if you like cooler tones (silvery stuff.)

http://beta.sephora.com/categories/makeup/palettes-value-sets/eye-sets-palettes

Chicka Boom

@marisaissleepy Agreed, they always have the best gift sets and palettes around the holidays. I like to buy during Sephora's 20% off sale, which is around that time.

mlle.gateau

I am like... a million years late on this, but the Sephora eye makeup remover for waterproof eye makeup is like $5 a bottle and the best, I swear. THE BEST.

Though I have no problems getting mascara etc off anymore since I started using castille soap to wash my face (Kirk's, whatup!) because it's coconut oil based.

playingpossum

Ok I need help - that Sephora foundation primer stuff looks amazing (I have a pink nose - the shame!) but they don't ship outside the US. I'm in Australia - can't afford the prices of shipping services. Does any company make a product like this that I could buy here? Thanks Pinners!

Chicka Boom

Yay, makeup! Yay, Jane! I am definitely a VIB - I've even got over 500 points stashed away for when they have a deluxe freebie I want. Sephora is having a 15% off sale this week too, which is excitingggg.

Trotter Roller@twitter

to LW1:Oh guurrrll, I am 5'10" and let me tell you. Wearing 4 inch heels is like the biggest rush ever. I used to be like you and hate towering over dudes but once you own it and realize the advantages it gives you, it will be an awesome natural high. Did you know that taller people statistically advance quicker in the corporate workplace? Also, did you know that a 5'11" woman in 4 inch heels is fucking hot, no matter who you are? Girl. You are a tall lady - OWN that shit!

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