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Monday, February 13, 2012

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How's It Going?

Hello! As The Hairpin grows and changes, we'd like to know: is there anything you'd like to see more of here? More politics, more sports, maybe? More original reporting? More interviews with people who know everything about leather? More coverage of even smaller houses? More quicklinks to articles about the secret to life being sitting down and eating nuts? Fewer quicklinks to articles about sitting down and eating nuts? The site is basically smiling at you now with a mouth full of orthodontics, asking if it looks dorky. (Well?!) In any case, if there's anything you'd like to write for The Hairpin, we'd love to read it. Or if you have tips/suggestions for things we could/should be doing, not that you'd want to be the one doing it, necessarily, we welcome that, too — either via email or in the comments below. Thank you!

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ranran

Wednesday is my birthday, and it is also the one-year anniversary of the last Letters to the Editors of Women's Magazines. Need more of those, please!

Also more sports, yes please.

breccia

@ranran Letters to the editors of women's magazinessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss(imagine me saying that on an exhale and I never stop until all the air is out of my lungs and I still keep going, trying to make the sound even though there's nothing there)

ranran

@ranran To clarify: I meant both "More Letters to the Editors of Women's Magazines" and also "More birthdays." Thanks in advance!

Megasus

@ranran I was not here for "Letters to the Editors of Women's Magazines" but it sounds awesome. Also more weird ghost/paranormal/cursed jewellery (or other objects. PAINTINGS! TINY HOUSES! I do not care).

Tulletilsynet

@ranran
Also, extremely short stories by Edith with drawings and/or vegetable art.

Tulletilsynet

These self-referential threads are just bottomless comment sinks, right?

mustasheo

@Tulletilsynet yessssss, more winter boyfriends!

atipofthehat

@Tulletilsynet

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mayonegg

More sports, says Avatar Casey McCall of Sports Night!

Lizanne07

@mayonegg CASEY! How have you been? What have you been up to? I saw a guy in my elevator the other day who looked like Dan (but it wasn't Dan, I don't think) and I thought about how I never see you around anymore. I miss you.

mayonegg

@Lizanne07 Oh, you know, just Sam-and-Diane-ing around with Dana Whitaker. Still haven't sealed the deal.

Lizanne07

@mayonegg Man, you gotta lock that down.

area@twitter

@mayonegg I would love some kind of Ladies Discuss Sports Things. For example, I was talking about rugby on the Interwebs and realized I know...nothing about it. It is supposed to be Extremely Manly and frequently bones are broken and there my knowledge runs dry.

phlox

@area@twitter I totally have a The Best Time I Joined a Women's Rugby Team story.

area@twitter

@phlox I would love to hear this.

rayray

@area@twitter Oooh, I would say I am not really into sports, except I do love rugby. More rugby plz.

mayonegg

@area@twitter I cry more about college basketball than anything else, so I would like more on this topic, as well.

sftyisnoaccident

@rayray i quadrillioneth the "more rugby" suggestion

(<--that's me, playing rugby)

pterodactgirl

@area@twitter I would love to have both rugby and cricket explained to me and I can think of no better place to have them explained than the hairpin. Some sort of Teach Me About This Obscure Sport column? I will also explain tennis to anyone who asks. And rank the players according to level of hotness. So if someone could do that for rugby and cricket too, I'd be grateful.

New Commenter Name

@pterodactgirl
Regarding sports, maybe if you absolutely must discuss that topic here, include some kind of Sports 101 guide for me. I know nothing and feel dumb when attempting small talk with acquaintances and complete strangers and they start talking to me about sports. I am like an ashamed deer in headlights, afraid of looking even stupider than I already feel.

ilikemints

@pterodactgirl I'm not really into sports, but I would love both "Explaining X Sport" and stories from women about playing.

PistolPackinMama

@everyone My online profiles say you should contact me if you can teach me to play rugby because I want to LEARNNNNNNNN!

I would also like to read about ladies playing sports and explaining sports.

OhMarie

@pterodactgirl Ohhh I would love Teach Me About This Obscure Sport. The Olympics are coming, and they are a font of obscure sports. I am totally obsessed with the Olympics so I could probably write this column for a couple of months leading up to it (who wants to hear about handball?!).

amirite

@everyone who wants sports: is anyone interested in hearing about Roller Derby? Because it is the only sport I've been into, and now I find myself acting like a sportsfan, yelling at refs on tv, having long talks about strategy, fangirling over people named Smack Daddy, giving up all kinds of things to go to practice, and now I understand people who like sports. And I never thought I'd say that. Roller derby: the ambassador sport.

slutberry

@phlox When my sister played rugby she was the hoooker and she had to quit because she got mono and could have ruptured her spleen.

When she was a teacher and I was a student at her school, I had fun telling fellow students, "Oh yeah, Miss A. used to be a hooker, but the doctor made her quit because she almost ruptured her spleen"

katiethegreat

@pterodactgirl I can explain Canoe Polo to anyone who wants to know! (kinda like basketball/dodgems but on water..)

phenylalanine

@amirite Ooh! Ooh! I am! I reeeeeally want to learn to play roller derby, and there's even a league nearby, but I don't really have time for 3x a week practices 45 minutes away. OR DO I?

Midie

@mayonegg

I'd like to hear more about boxing and combat sports. (I'm having my first amateur boxing match in a month - I'm no expert but could offer a personal story if there is any interest).

D.@twitter

@phlox The Best Time I Played Rugby: I was a young American high school student in France, and was accidentally depantsed while we were learning take-downs. Everyone saw. I'm pretty sure all the boys thought about how fat I was compared to les filles francaises. The end.

AniaGosia

@OhMarie Yes! I am obsessed with the Olympics too, but only the winter ones. I don't have TV right now but I am already planning how I will be able to watch the next winter Olympics. I will explain biathlon (xc-skiing + target shooting, what more do you need to know?)

pterodactgirl

@AniaGosia Oh it is ALL ABOUT biathlon.

arizonatime

@phenylalanine you would love this: Sisterhood of Roller Derby

Anne Helen Petersen

More times when Edith texts HELP ME CALIFORNIA during profile of up-and-coming demi-movie star

area@twitter

@Anne Helen Petersen this is how I found The Hairpin, so yes, more of these. (best piece ever, love it)
On a slightly related topic, more about travel? Like just ladies jetting off to exciting places I cannot afford to visit and writing hilarious/insightful things about what can be found there.

Emily Byrd Starr

@Anne Helen Petersen Seconded on the travel! Also ladies living in other countries, and how they did it.

pterodactgirl

@area@twitter Yes! More of the "Things you should know before moving to Beirut" type of articles. I will write one about Chile, although it's been 5 years since I lived there so my info may be out of date. I need to travel vicariously too!

no way

More EDITH!

Fig. 1 (formerly myfanwy)

@pterodactgirl I, too, would like to see moar articles written by native Pinners about their place of residence! (I would do one about my city but I'm sure not very many ppl would be interested in hearing about Saskatoon.)

The Beirut one was terrific - I love reading about daily routines/lives of people all over. Especially the stuff you think is boring, like how you get your groceries and all that.

youngpiranha

@Fig. 1 (formerly myfanwy) Yes! Fun, practical travel pieces are the best--in the vein of "How to Survive a 10-Hour Flight Like a Lady."

miwome

@Fig. 1 (formerly myfanwy) Yessssss please. I get itchy feet and a yen to travel way more often than I can actually be running all over the place, so vicarious stuff is awesome.

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@Fig. 1 (formerly myfanwy)
Yes, I would love to hear about Saskatoon. And/or any random small place around the world. Stories and photographs about major cultural world cities are easy to come by. I want to hear about places I've never thought about.

Fig. 1 (formerly myfanwy)

@Curiouser and curiouser Yes! That's what I mean, places you've never thought about.

Maladydee

@Fig. 1 (formerly myfanwy) Winnipeg checking in, here, I would like to hear about Saskatoon.

sevanetta

@Emily Byrd Starr I've lived in East Timor and I'm from Australia. Maybe the other Australian commenters would like to put comments into something I wrote about Australia?

sevanetta

@sevanetta or maybe rather it would be better if we wrote about where we lived, thereby fighting against the perception that Australia is all the same. I live in a regional part of Australia (near Byron Bay) and it's pretty different to living in one of the major cities, for a start.

miwome

@sevanetta I would LOVE some Australian dispatches, due to my unhealthy obsession with Australian pop culture.

sevanetta

@miwome Awesome! So... what do you mean by 'Australian pop culture', I have no idea what you mean?

miwome

@sevanetta Lulz, this is not really real Australian pop culture, I imagine, but I have such a weakness for Australia's Next Top Model that it maybe should be in the DSM. Also I love a lot of Australian FASH-ON reality series (Alex Perry: a treasure of the world), and a lot of the dance music acts that come out of there (Cut Copy, Potbellies, etc). Also, crazy wildlife. I really want to go to Australia, is what I'm saying.

Please don't be insulted I am sure there is a lot of other less trashy stuff that goes on in Australiaaaaaaa

crookedlegs

@Fig. 1 (formerly myfanwy) Halifax would love to know about Saskatoon! More CanCon on the Hairpin: my official request.

sevanetta

@miwome Oh ok, I get you now! Don't worry! I was asking in the spirit of genuine curiosity, not to get annoyed with you for liking the wrong sort of things. I like Cut Copy :) Art Vs. Science are my fave dancey act from Australia though. do you listen to triple j radio?

I have a lot of wildlife around my house actually. And at the uni I work at. Fun fact: koalas are scarily noisy when they shag!

miwome

@sevanetta I DON'T listen to triple j radio! But I will.

That bit about the koalas made my eyes go very wide.

sevanetta

@miwome ... (wondering if I should tell you about their claws)

Oh, this is going to be SUCH fun. >:D

miwome

@sevanetta ...Go on.

sevanetta

@miwome :shrugs in manner of nonchalant Australian: They have claws. They are clawy. Good for climbing trees with. Or your legs. Rargh!

In other koala-related news, the koala population in Australia is actually under threat, from dogs, cars and disease - a lot of koalas get a koala version of chlyamidia and it's awful because it's not treatable :( :( :(. They were hunted at the turn of the last century and the population never really recovered.

You know what, I think this is developing into a new series already... Ask An Australian.

special_boots

Could you possibly say a bit more about what types of submissions you're looking for? I do a lot of writing for my day job, but would love to get to write more Hairpin-style things -- if only I had a better sense of what you'd like! (Subject matter, style, length, anything else we should know?)

(As for me, I love "reading between the texts," if only because it is the story of my life. Please feature it every day forever.)

Thank you!

Edith Zimmerman

@special_boots Yes! It's tricky, because what we want is ... what you want to write! Basically, we're trying to mix it up, try new formats, new things. Experimental. Weird. "Weird is good" sounds very fifth-grade acceptance pep talk, but whatever. Those pep talks were useful. Well, no, haha. They weren't useful at all! "Different is good" was the phrase at my school, and the vice principal said it every morning over the loud speaker, and everyone made fun of her. Anyway. Anything you feel strongly about is usually a great place to start.

special_boots

@Edith Zimmerman Thanks so much, Edith!

Judith Slutler

@Edith Zimmerman Do you like non-tiny-house buildings? Financially disastrous ones that were only built due to the charisma and sexual wiles of a megalomaniac lady architect? I just heard this story in an urban history seminar and it is... entertaining.

Oh, squiggles

@Emmanuelle Cunt You should share this story with us!

laurel

@Emmanuelle Cunt I would read the hell out of that story.

ach_so

@Emmanuelle Cunt I really want to hear this story! My guess would be Zaha Hadid, but she's too contemporary to be in a history class...

sevanetta

@Edith Zimmerman More Reading Between the Texts, -1 vote for sports, and most importantly, PLEASE BRING BACK RELATIONSHAPES. :cough: Thank you for your attention to this matter.

t-square

@Emmanuelle Cunt YES PLEASE! I want to go do research into the personal life of the lady architect who I recently discovered was responsible for a large portion of the cute historic neighborhoods in Atlanta. Also the first lady architect known to have published plan books. If she was also a megalomaniac we could do a series.

atipofthehat

@t-square

Megalomania and architecture, together?

THAT COULD NEVER HAPPEN

Kelly McClure@facebook

I would absolutely love to read more helpful, and extremely well-written articles by Lola McClure. She's the best!

Lola P.

@Kelly McClure@facebook mom you are EMBARRASSING ME.

Lola P.

@Lola McClure (if anyone else i'm NOT dating wants me to cover health/medical stuff, i'd love to write it so, uh, let it be known?

vagina lady is for the people.)

Fig. 1 (formerly myfanwy)

@Kelly McClure@facebook I would like to read a well-written article by Lola McClure's mom!

Killerpants

@Lola McClure Here I am, letting it be known. Big time.

Feminist Killjoy

@Kelly McClure@facebook Basically more McClures all around

rucifie

@Kelly McClure@facebook Yes, more stuff about What is Going On in That Weird Place Down There, please!

Fig. 1 (formerly myfanwy)

@Lola McClure You're right! I have!

blee

@Lola McClure yes! and I can maybe help with the abortion funding/reproductive justice and shitty policies aspect of that?

itmakesmewonder

My very favorite thing you do is first-person narratives of serious life events (last week's stillbirth story, holy hell).

I could live with like 100% fewer links to whatever new mixtapes? But? That's a slim complaint at best.

itmakesmewonder

@itmakesmewonder Oh and please NOT more Reading Between the Texts.

chiselpuff

@itmakesmewonder Yeah those mixtapes are really the only thing I dislike about the Hairpin.

Tina W

@itmakesmewonder Agree...mixtapes are not as fun as everything else.

sox
sox

@itmakesmewonder REALLY? As a fanatical music junkie, I love the mixtapes. But perhaps they could not count as an entire post since there isn't alot of writing alongside them.

But please Jane, I love love love when I get new music from sites like this, so please don't stop altogether!

atipofthehat

@itmakesmewonder

I like it when there's more than what I want on a site. It's like the fallacy of the personal-interest-driven, self-selected newspaper: if you had that, you'd miss a lot of important things that you didn't know you might be interested in.

Moon of My Life

@itmakesmewonder I skip the mix tapes but I don't want them to die in a fire or anything... I'd like more music posts like the 'John Dead' one that was just posted. more "hey here is this awesome band/artist/song and this is why you should like it!" instead of a giant pile of music presented with little to no info

ranran

@sox As a fanatical music junkie, I have other sources that I check constantly for music stuff, so a mixtape of stuff I'm not really that interested in, I'll probably skip. But there are worse things than skipping a post here and there!

PistolPackinMama

@sox Agreed. I like having new stuff to listen to at work, and mixtapes are a fun way to find them.

Craftastrophies

@atipofthehat Yeah, I skip the mix tapes, and most of the music videos, because I can't watch video at work and I'm not interested enough to watch them when I get home. But it's not like I feel like they're taking over the site and my favourite things aren't getting air time. As you said, I like that there's more than I want here.

hedgehog

@Craftastrophies I feel vaguely soothed by their availability even though I never want to listen to them. They're good atmosphere or something.

tee
tee

@itmakesmewonder Yeah... I could do with 100% less music content. Unless it's about divas. Beyonce doesn't count.

But!!! Always more Reading Between the Texts!!!

Bittersweet

@itmakesmewonder: I'm working on a piece on this topic right now, so your comment (and the many thumbs-up) make me almost brave enough to submit it to The Hairpin when it's finished.

attackofthetext

More Reading Between the Texts!

travelmugs

@attackofthetext Reading Between the Texts makes me laugh out loud every time.

themegnapkin

@attackofthetext Also, bring back kill/fcuk/marry? I feel like an Arrested Devt fan. Which I am.

ylime

@attackofthetext Yes! I love Reading Between the Texts! Direct contrast to the comment thread above this one!

Katie Heaney

@attackofthetext thanks guys. :) there will be more!

nerds

@attackofthetext Reading Between the Texts is my absolute favorite thing about the hairpin!! Which is saying a whole lot because I love the hairpin. But I get really excited when I see them and then read them out loud to my roommate. Fun times.

Debris

@Katie Heaney Yes! Reading between the texts is my very very favorite!

elizabeast

More AHP! AHP all day, every day!

Anne Helen Petersen

On a more serious note, I think it'd be awesome to have a rotating series of "Ask a [INSERT PERSON WHO HAS CHOSEN A CERTAIN PROFESSION HERE]." I certainly would've loved to have heard from more women who had already gone through a Ph.D. in whatever, and I'm sure others would like to hear more [first hand] about the experience of being an therapist, lawyer, free-lance writer, Qream-aficionado, professional blog commenter, early learning ed. person, whatever. I remember a post by an aesthetician way back when. I already have a profession, but I'd love to read about others'.

The Lady of Shalott

@Anne Helen Petersen Oh my goodness yes, that is an amazing idea.

area@twitter

@Anne Helen Petersen Yes I second this totally.

itmakesmewonder

@Anne Helen Petersen GREAT IDEA

atipofthehat

@Anne Helen Petersen

Fifth'ed!

Quinn A@twitter

@Anne Helen Petersen That would be fabulous.

oh, disaster

@Anne Helen Petersen Yes! I would love this.

plonk

@Anne Helen Petersen YES I AM SUPER INTO CAREERS

WaityKatie

@Anne Helen Petersen I agree, and I would like to volunteer my services if Ask a Bitter, Disaffected Lawyer becomes a thing.

nyikint

@Anne Helen Petersen YES. We have such a diverse and accomplished bunch of women here, and it would be great to get their career insights.

karion

@WaityKatie: along those lines, if anyone wants to ask a unicorn something, I am up for the Ask a Mostly Satisfied Attorney column.

Rock and Roll Ken Doll

@karion
Wait, what? How?

Alixana

@karion I'd co-write that with you! ;)

Dorothea

@karion is that you?! i am a 3L and would be in to that. i want to believe.

WaityKatie

@karion Ask a Unicorn is another great idea for a column. Dear Unicorn, why are you so biased in favor of virgins?

feartie

@Anne Helen Petersen I would LOVE more career stuff - a day in the life of perhaps? If that's not too simple. I have a PhD in English Lit/Creative Writing and doing that ...yikes. I loved it, but it should have a big sign on it 'NO ENTRANCE FOR THOSE WHO VALUE THEIR MENTAL AND PHYISCAL STABILITY'. Now I have no job. I would like to be a lesson to others. And read of other people who were more successful in their transitioning through or out of academia.

churlishgreen

@Anne Helen Petersen I would happily contribute Ask A Lady Who Wishes She Hadn't Wasted Her Youth in the Law Library...

bangs
bangs

@Anne Helen Petersen I could do ask a geologist, but in my experience most questions lay people ask me go like this:
Q: What kind of rock is this?
A: Oh it’s ____, which formed in a volcano, etc etc etc
Q: So what’s it worth?
A: Nothing.
And Q throws the rock away.

Marquise de Morville

@Anne Helen Petersen I would add "Ask a Scientist" as well. I have a Ph.D. in the natural sciences and really love to read Hairpin posts about art history. It would be nice to have more crosstalk between social and natural sciences and other fields. It would be great to share with a greater public how academia/industry research really works. Hint: most is done by twenty-somethings paid less than 30k a year and it is amazing how disillusioned people are even if they actively work on "curing cancer".

More battenburg, vicar?

@Anne Helen Petersen I could do ask a shy British clinical psychologist, or ask a cake-obsessed mindfulness teacher.

angelinha

@Anne Helen Petersen Ask an MSW Student and then Ask a Social Worker please!

Lizzy

@Anne Helen Petersen I think it would be super fun to have like a point/counterpoint on careers. For example, disaffected lawyer and mostly satisfied lawyer answering the same questions. It would probably be hilarious.

nerds

@Anne Helen Petersen That is a really awesome idea! I love the current Ask a's and I don't want them to go away (Ask a Dude, I love you!) but more/different ones on occasion would be fun!

Terrifying Wife-Avatar

@feartie I have a Ph.D. in English Lit. and I DO have a job, but I agree 100% about your assessment of doctoral work! And I would be happy to serve as Ask a Satisfied, Mostly Sane, Employed-But-Underpaid Almost-Tenured English Professor if the 'Pin needs one. (Confession, though: I fear most of my answers might be the same as those given by Ask a Disaffected, Embittered English Professor.)

MilesofMountains

@Xaxa I would be happy to do "Ask a Biologist", although I'll say in advance that people asking questions that go "I saw a bug and it was brown with legs. What kind of bug is it?" are likely to be disappointed.

I wish I could get some of my coworkers to write posts. Their stories are better than mine. "The Best Time I Got Attacked by a Bear While Approving Timesheets" or "The Best Time I Got Airlifted Out of a Forest Fire" are pretty entertaining stories.

ellochka

@klibberfish Are you a first or second year MSW student? I'm graduating in May!

insouciantlover

@Anne Helen Petersen I could write an "Ask a Lady who works in the Construction Industry" piece! I know so much about paint finishes.

bangs
bangs

@MilesofMountains One of my coworkers has a "falling into a hibernating bear‘s den" story. Though I‘m not entirely sure it‘s not a company legend.

Lorelei@twitter

@Anne Helen Petersen I like all of the suggestions where I think, "hmm I could write for that" because I am not A Writer (abandoned dream) but I think I write well, and contributing to the Pin would be ridiculously validating.

I like this idea particularly because I'm in a field I think is really cool and rewarding and that I found kind of by accident, and love talking it up. I'm sure there must more careers like that! Where young people think "what can I do with x degree/talent/interest?" and there are few standard answers so that's all you research in your shit-what-do-I-do-when-I-graduate panic sessions, but really there are so many other things that need doing in the world! I would have read the heck out of a career series like "this is my job and this is what it's really like to do and here is how you can go about getting into it," and I definitely still would.

laurel

@insouciantlover 'I live in the high desert Southwest. Should I use an elastomeric exterior paint on my old stucco?'

/not kidding

insouciantlover

@laurel Yeah, actually, elastomeric is great for stucco. It's more expensive than a lot of normal coatings that you've probably found, but it's particularly recommended on masonry (like your stucco) and is great as far as standing up to harsh rain, or, more likely for you, wind. I think you'd want a couple coats to help cover and protect any small cracks in the surface, though.

I'd definitely power wash the surface first to remove all dust, however. I hope that helps! Good luck, and let me know if you want to talk colors!

angelinha

@ellochka I am a zero year future potential MSW student! :)

laurel

@insouciantlover Aw, thank you! I could single-handedly keep your column in business!

I've scraped loose paint, patched cracks and pushbroomed the walls, but I hadn't thought about power washing. Do I have to use a special power washer or can I just use my hose attachment on high pressure?

We def have wind, hard monsoon rains, occasional subzero temperatures (it's 20F-ish every night between November and March), 85F+ temperatures in summer, some snow, 335 days of sunshine at altitude, etc., so elastomeric it is. Good thing it's (almost) a tiny house.

I looove talking colors, but I've already chosen a warmish taupe (everyone else is rosy-brown, but I love how a cooler color looks with the deep blue sky and lots and lots of plants, so) with a rusty/poppy red for window trim. I've already done the garden wall and it looks pretty with the silverlace vines.

spinstah

@Anne Helen Petersen I would totally write Ask a Librarian Who, Perhaps Confusingly, Doesn't Actually Work in a Library.

smack

@Anne Helen Petersen aw man nobody ever wants to Ask A Lady Sysadmin. I would write a tech column! Nobody cares. That's what Gizmodo is for. Meow meow.

AniaGosia

@feartie Yes, this. I am doing a PhD in philosophy and need all the advice/help/sympathy I can get. Also a job or ideas for how to get one.

Craving Brownies

@Anne Helen Petersen If you want to a female American engineering PhD, I'm here! But serious question, do we have to use our real names? I'm not ashamed of anything I have to say, by my employer may not feel the same way.

social theory

@AniaGosia i'd be happy to stand up and offer a look at the life of a sociology ph.d. student if you want! the comments would be great for job sympathy.

oh well never mind

@Anne Helen Petersen I could do Ask A Translator in the UK..? Kind of a combination of the job thing and the living-in-other-places thing?

ImASadGiraffe

@Anne Helen Petersen I could do "Ask a Lady Weightlifter" as that's what I do almost everyday after my real job.

MilesofMountains

@ImASadGiraffe Oo! I have a question: barbells vs. dumbells, which should I be using for my chest presses?

ImASadGiraffe

@MilesofMountains By chest presses are you meaning bench press (i.e. laying down)? If so, barbell is preferred and stability is easier - but get a spotter!

insouciantlover

@laurel omg, you're so hardcore doing it yourself! There are companies who you can hire to power wash, but I'd say that if you're already scrubbing and prepping the area so thoroughly, you could get away with a rinse down from the hose. The important thing is just to get the surface free of dust.

And I think medium taupe with the deep blue sky and tons of plants sounds gorgeous! Why fight with nature, you know? It's gonna be prettier no matter what you do.

wallsdonotfall

I want a Big Gay Makeover collaboration with Dapper Q. I have had actual dreams about this feature.

The Lady of Shalott

I love stories like The Best Time I [Whatever], and I want more of those always everyday! And original reporting! And I love Ask A Dude/Lady/Queer Chick/Bowl of Hummus/Coiled Rope/Pigeon/Spider because the comments sections are always amazing and outstanding. And I love How to be a Girl, and makeup tutorials, and so on and so forth and I love seeing those.

But my true love for the Hairpin is everything that is unique to is: The Best Time I..., stories like Pinochle, etc. etc. etc. More of those, please! ALWAYS!

Jolie Kerr

Thanks a heap, Shalott.

The Lady of Shalott

@Jolie Kerr OH MY GOD I KNEW I WAS FORGETTING SOMETHING

brb, I am going to go bury head in the covers for ever and ever. I love Ask a Clean Person so much that I send it to everyone I know and regularly discuss it with my mom, now!

ylime

@The Lady of Shalott Yes! I love "The Best Time I [X]". It's what got me hooked on the hairpin, and I dare say it is my favorite thing except for Ask a Clean Person because Jolie helped me with my purse and so she is the best.

atipofthehat

@The Lady of Shalott

OMG, if she goes all Carabosse on you it'll be like watching a stop-action film of mold infestation! She has the power to withdraw her sacred protection and allow the Dark Forces of Chaos and Grime to hold sway over your home!

Craftastrophies

@The Lady of Shalott My partner has a painting of you in his living room. (I sound so creeeepy) I visited him on the weekend and I kept doing these massive hilarious double takes. Hairpin, you are taking over my liiiiffffeeeee.

I came for Ask a Clean Person. I stayed for Ask a Queer Chick... and the everything else, but Thursdays are still the highlight for me. <3 you Jolie! Although, I miss Ask a Handy Femme. I understand it has to wait until said Femme has something Handy to do, though. Personally, I am really enjoying the balance of long-running pieces like Scandals, Ask segments, links and original pieces lately. But maybe some more Let's All Make?

whateverlolawants

@The Lady of Shalott I came here for the Women Laughing While Eating Salad alone, I stayed for The Best Time I...

L M
L M

@Craftastrophies oh no, I've been crafting. a lot. installing closet shelves, too, and re-wiring lamps.

annepersand

The Hairpin's butt looks really cute in that dress. No, really.

jacqueline
jacqueline

MORE RELATIONSHAPES

MORE QREAM

DenimGlow

@jacqueline I miss relationshapes!!!

sox
sox

@DenimGlow Regarding Relationshapes, I like the idea of the short series of things like that, maybe have a rotating series of comics, rotating series of short serials, 5-10 parts each and posted weekly. You could even repeat artists/writers in the rotation who are big hits, but rotating will help facilitate more artists/writers thriving and also keep things from becoming stagnant.

jacqueline
jacqueline

@sox Agreed. I enjoyed the transition from Relationshapes, to the Jim Berhle stuff, then Esther comics. Not sure if that was intended as a rotating series of featured comic artists but if it was, I approve!

angelinha

@jacqueline Oh but PLEASE don't rotate away from the League of Extraordinary Ladies. At least not till winter ends. Please.

Craftastrophies

@klibberfish I don't want to sound down on the League, because I LOVE it. But I feel like maybe I would enjoy it more if it were less often, or it was swapped around with another thing like sex says. That sounds like I mean I don't want to see it as much, but I just mean I want it to be more special. But then, I don't want to deprive myself of it, either, so maybe don't listen to me.

smack

@Craftastrophies NO I want a The Hairpin that is all League all the time that comic is the fucking BEST

atipofthehat

@DenimGlow

I miss BOBlationshapes!
Even though I don't get it?

ghechr

I love the advice columns (i.e. ask a coiled rope), scandals of classic hollywood, and original reporting on people with an extraordinary (or ordinary) thing happen to them (i.e. the stillbirth story or "the best time I..." stories). How to be a girl makeup vids are kick ass, too. All hail the perfect cat eye!

miwome

@ghechr Ooh yes, more HTBAG videos, please! I recently went through and watched all of them and I was disappointed with how quickly they ended.

highjump

@ghechr Yes to more scandals of classic hollywood, and I would squee with delight if there were spin offs like scandals of classic broadway, scandals of [artist community], and scandals of [dance company]

jacqueline
jacqueline

@ghechr Definitely seconding the motion on "personal bests". Absolute favourite thing on the site.

Jane Marie

@ghechr if you guys have specific HTBAG videos you'd like to see, please let me know!
x

KDubb

@ghechr I love the How to be a girl videos. They could also encompass other style choices like clothing (say, "here's an outfit and pick 'these-type-of-pieces' you'll need to make one of your own). I have such a hard time layering clothing without either feeling like an overstuffed Thanksgiving turkey or looking like I'm trying way too hard.

And I second the suggestion to feature more "Ask a (enter this profession)" posts.

travelmugs

@Jane Marie How to Get Softer Hands, Trim Your Own Bangs, Have Cuticles and Not Ruin Them, etc.

oh, disaster

@travelmugs So so so seconding Trim Your Own Bangs.

Sue-Tang

@Jane Marie I'd like to see a tutorial/review of those lip tattoos. Are those a cool thing? i know they have patterned kinds that people like Rihanna look amazing wearing, but are the all-over color kinds a good semi-permanent substitute to lipstick?

Speaking of Rihanna, how did she do her nails in the "You Da One" video? I tried to do this look with tape and failed miserably.

miwome

@travelmugs How to Get Into the World of Painting One's Nails if one has never seen the point, really, but would like to stop biting said nails/destroying said cuticles, and is starting to feel undue amounts of social pressure about it.

Trim Your Own Bangs would be good! I do this, and I think I do a pretty good job, but a) more tips are always good (how to keep fallen hair out of your sink, for example) and b) I want everyone to know how! It is such a saver of time and money.

themegnapkin

@Jane Marie HT pluck your eyebrows? And, how to cover things up on your face (one of the commenters shared the most awesome photo tutorial a few months back).

TeresaOtter

@Jane Marie How To Feel Beautiful In Your Own Skin? Or something. I think I may be having an identity crisis.

phlox

@miwome Someone once told me that you should put a small towel in your sink before you start, then all the hair falls on it and then you just shake it out. I have never once followed this sage advice.

KDubb

@Sue-Tang

Oh my, do I love me some nail polish! I follow about 20 nail blogs and some of them have good tutorials on how to create certain manicures. I so, so, SO want some Konad and Bundle Monster stamping plates but am too poor to buy any right now.

This one is good--she doesn't post a lot but her tape mani tutorials are clear and with practice (it took me a try or two) you'll get it.

http://nailside.blogspot.com/search/label/All%20tape%20manis

Changeling

@Sue-Tang
And more tattoos in general!

Killerpants

@Jane Marie How to do that cheek contouring thing where your cheek bones look all defined, with the highlighty-glow on the top. I full-on double-complete love the HTBAG vids.

miwome

@phlox I tried once? It didn't really work. Maybe I didn't do it right.

@Changeling I would love to see some material on tattoos/body modification in general!

pterodactgirl

@Jane Marie The Edith makeover! Please?

Sue-Tang

@KDubb Wow! What a find! Thanks for this.

TeresaOtter

@Jane Marie @Changeling I am pretty interested in white ink tattoos. They look so delicate and beautiful, but finding information about the whole deal is difficult!

More battenburg, vicar?

@Jane Marie Please please please make-up for pale, washed out looking red haired women in their 40s.

ghechr

@Jane Marie I would love one on getting super-straight hair. Are flat irons involved? Blow dryers? Some sort of straightening agent?

Mingus_Thurber

@Jane Marie How to do your makeup if you've got a video interview coming up in eleven days that you absolutely cannot look bad for!

miwome

@Jane Marie It just occurred to me--I love love LOVE your videos and how you talk to us, but it would be really cool to have some featuring ladies of different skin tones, eye shapes (I have Asian-y eyes and most of your eyeshadow strategies just don't apply), etc, just every once in a while. Inclusion!

KDubb

@miwome

Hey, another Hairpinner turned me onto this blog. She has some great tutorials for makeup looks for Asian eyes (she's Korean) and I've been perusing it and her YouTube channel getting new tips and tricks (as well as product reviews).

http://www.frmheadtotoe.com/

inkysmudge

@Jane Marie How to Not Have Snake Lady Skin Between November and April. I know you just moved to LA though but maybe just more long-term upkeep rather than particular looks? What are the things you do weekly to keep your shit together (deep condition, fun DIY face masks, loofah-ing etc). Also how on earth do you use cuticle trimmers? I am terrified of them but I also feel that they are necessary.

Diana

@Jane Marie

Lady Jane, you asked me a few months back in the comments to write up my before/after photos into a full length post and I haven't forgotten, I'm just really embarrassed by the prospect, but my embarrassment is overcome by my excitement at the idea of submitting something, so I'll get on that. Look, all these commas, tremendous.

Jane Marie

@Diana pleeeeease?

Cindy Curtain

@Jane Marie Maybe a guest post by a woman who is fair-skinned and freckly, like me. Jane I love your tutorials, but your beautiful olivey skin and dark hair are far from what I've got to work with.

miwome

I think I might like to see a slightly higher frequency of political-ish material? Not necessarily, like, election coverage, or "this bill is bad!!! No!"--there are plenty of places dedicated to that--but more along the lines of Ask an Abortion Provider, or that piece on the prison system you guys linked to a while back. Or that piece about Are Women People?. Do you get what I'm saying? Maybe? Do ya?

olivebee

@miwome Agreed wholeheartedly.

February Revolution

@miwome Yes, more coverage of suffragettes, past and present!

atipofthehat

@miwome

Pieces about how to get things done in the real world are wonderful, too.

miwome

@atipofthehat For sure! I guess I would have considered Ask an Abortion Provider to be a pretty good example of that. Did you mean something different? Inquiring minds, &c.

snuffleupagus

@miwome "Ask a policy expert?" So you could do a series, for example, where you go and ask experts in energy, health, education, labor, etc., policy about the current big issues and get a level-headed (but hilarious) view at what the sides want, and when ridiculousness ensues?

whizz_dumb

@atipofthehat Yes. I love to joke around and I also appreciate the shit out of some "and here's how you can help" information.

atipofthehat

@miwome

Yes, like that, but more like What it's like to get a biopsy, though ALL KINDS of topics could be covered. How to travel with no money. How to improve your game. How to deal with unwanted attention. What to do when you get really angry. How to help other people. What to do in a fire (a fireman friend gave me some incredible advice about fire extinguishers, for instance: don't put them by the stove, put them by the door, so you have a way to back out of the room as you try to put the fire out).

So much important practical information we all have that could be shared in an interesting way!

miwome

@atipofthehat Yes! I would love all of that, although I feel like it's not really the same thing as what I was talking about? But who cares, more excellence for everyone!

@snuffleupagus I love that idea. I think the day The Hairpin managed to do an awesome interview with Marc Lynch (especially if they covered his hip-hop analysis!) would be the day I died, happy as a slug on a leaf. But also, obviously, lower-profile persons. I just want to be Marc Lynch when I grow up.

redheaded&crazy

@atipofthehat so many good ideas!

I would like to push "what to do when you get really angry" and "how to deal with unwanted attention" to the top of the queue, because those two can tend to intersect in a really bad way for ... some people

atipofthehat

@redheadedandcrazy

"The stare follows the eye, so roll your eyes and cast his off."

feartie

@miwome I'd like to see political stuff, but since I come from outside of the states, I am worried about the content being totally states-centric. Which is fine - I do read a lot about the US (given that I used to live there) and I enjoy reading serious pieces about the American health system, but I'd also fancy some other perspectives.

iceberg

@redheadedandcrazy YES.

miwome

@feartie Oh dude, I am all about that! I would love to see policy discussions from all over the world (I love me some Global Voices, but sometimes it's just not at the level I want to be reading?).

feartie

@miwome I am totally biased with this point because really exciting things are going to be happening in Scotland in the next year or so because we're having an independence referendum. Last time we were a country was 1707, so this is big news. Tonnes of arguments, lots of romanticism and bile. Lots of policy questions being raised. And yet, don't think it's really known much about outside of Scotland (and that includes the rest of the UK). I'd also like to know more about Canada. What's up Canada? Kate Beaton to blame for that.

angelinha

@redheadedandcrazy How to respond to street harassment and what to say to your friends who laugh it off and act like you're crazy for making a big deal about it??

(I feel like I read something on this recently but that it was maybe on xojane, and I'd love to see it here...sorry if I'm mixing up my ladyblogs)

miwome

@feartie I would love to hear about that! I had a Scottish housemate a couple of years ago who talked about that issue a little bit (we were only housemates for a few days, so we didn't get to talk too much) and it sounded fascinating.

PistolPackinMama

@feartie Oh yes. I was in Scotland for the referendum on the parliament in 1997 and it was amazing to experience. I cannot wait to see what is going to happen. Not that I have a real investment in what happens, exactly, but I am invested in understaning what wil happen.

ALSO, Ask An Arab Springer. Ask An Arab Feminist. Ask A Euroskeptic. And so on.

miwome

@PistolPackinMama Ahhh I have been working OVERTIME trying not to be too "give me the Arab Sprinnnnnggg" slash Arab/Islamic (what up, Indonesia?!) world, because this is what I study. THIS RIGHT HERE. But I don't want to, like, ruin everyone's party by going on and on/be selfish.

What I'm saying is, I am WITH YOU. (Also, a Euroskeptic would be cool! Also, an African Development Expert! Somebody who knows something about that Mediterranean Union Sarkozy was pushing a while back!)

feartie

@PistolPackinMama Ask an Arab Springer and Ask an Arab Feminist - yes!

Craftastrophies

@feartie Actually, I would love a humorous/personal write up of what's going on in different countries. I try to keep informed but it's just so BORING. Except it isn't! I'm an ex-politics student, and I love this stuff, but the stuff everyone knows doesn't make it into news reports, so I'd love a write up from a real person. I was thinking of maybe doing a Things I Remember About Paul Keating piece, since he's pretty hilarious, but I don't know how that would fly.

@a tip of the hat YES THIS. Maybe it could be called How to Be A Grownup. I feel like I need help with that. Like Ask a Clean Person, but for the rest of my life. And the comments on those posts would be amazing.

@miwome yes, I get and agree with your original statement.

PistolPackinMama

@feartie The Best Time I Helped Bring Down A Dictatorial Regime would kind of make my life. Hairpinny eccentricity x politcal change x not in the US= I would read that with great pleasure.

The Best Time I Agitated For Access to Abortion in Poland.

The Best Time I Organized a Protest in X- Square/Plaza About Y-Issue.

miwome

@PistolPackinMama The Best Time I Was Tawakkul Karman.

Interrobanged

@miwome AHHHH CANADIAN CONTENT. Like many Canadians, I get far too excited when the rest of the world notices we exist. Depending on your political orientation, our politics will either make you giggle or weep quietly to yourself.

I mostly just roll my eyes a lot.

suzabellajones

@miwome I'm American and I get really excited about Canadian content too because it feels silly not to know much about our giant neighbor, but it just doesn't show up in our regular news. I loved the Awl's "Canada! How Does It Work?" article and would love to see more of that sort of thing, about lots of places.

AniaGosia

@Craftastrophies Yes! I need How to be a Grownup so badly. Especially How to Manage Your Finances if You Have No Finances to Speak of. Should I be balancing a checkbook? Is that a thing anymore?

sceps yarx

@Interrobanged Do you ever read the webcomic "hark a vargrant"? She has some hilarious Canadian content.

all the kittens in the club gettin nipsy

@sceps yarx As a Canadian, yes it would be nice to have some Canadian content in the sites I read! But at the same time, the political situation here is so depressing right now I'm not sure I want to hear more about it than I absolutely have to. Like, we are facing our own versions of SOPA/Patriot Act/Incarcerate-everyone-forever legislation right now, and due to the fact that the Conservatives have a majority, they can basically blow off any dissent and pass whatever they want. But maybe some history about our healthcare system or education system, or profiles of rad Canadian politicians from the past? Trudeau is always fascinating to Americans, and I'd read anything about Jack Layton.

dotdotdash

@miwome Yes! More politics please! Along the same lines, I love the mixtapes and links compendiums, and it would be awesome to see something similar around politics (here are 5 things to be concerned about this week) or political action (links to online petitions, donation opportunities, etc.) Or, at the bottom of first-person stories, a link I could click on to donate or act on a related issue. The sad stories always make me want to DO SOMETHING, like the stillbirth story made me cry then go donate money to March of Dimes. Also, can we Ask a Conservative? I'm so mystified by conservative thinking and would love someone to reasonably explain it to me on occasion.

dotcommie

i would love to see more awl/TAL-style long form reporting here, mostly because it's my favorite stuff to read/listen to and i need MOAR of it on my internet. (i love the advice columns too, okay, and the two can coexist)

Craftastrophies

@dotcommie Confession: I almost never read the awl posts. They look great, but I can't comment on them, and the people over there are different, so... I guess I could sign up with the awl and get into the community there, it's not like there's no overlap. But I barely manage to keep up here. I wish we could comment on the link over here, but I understand how that would be a nightmare from the site/author's pov.

Limaceous

@Craftastrophies Are the people really so different? I read both (actually started at The Awl before Hairpin existed), and I think there's actually a lot of overlap...

Diana

@Craftastrophies

I like The Awl's content but I really hate the commenting pool over there except for the few who overlap here. Everybody at the Awl commentariat is so goddamn arch, so busy being wry and ironic and meta that they never manage to bother being empathetic or kind. It really grates on my nerves to read a wonderfully well-written piece about something important and meaningful and see nothing but clever, dismissive comments intended to show off the intelligence of the commenter, rather than the accomplishment of the author.

Craftastrophies

@Limaceous I don't know. All I know is that I have clicked and read several articles, gone to read the comments, and then closed the window after the first four or so. Unlike here, where the comments are half the point. I don't mean to say that the awl commenters are awful or no one should like commenting there. It's just not where I want to be, to the extent that sometimes it feels a bit intrusive to have a cross post that I can't comment on.

@Diana so what you're saying is, they need more feelings/bffness?

Limaceous

@Craftastrophies Now I understand what you mean. I guess it depends on what your main engagement with the site is. For me, I like commenting on The Hairpin, but I love reading The Hairpin. (Same for The Awl, with maybe even more emphasis on reading vs commenting.)

I feel like the cross-posts (both Awl on Hairpin and Hairpin on Awl) involve pieces that the editors think the readership of each website should really take a second look at. Of course it's all about driving pageviews, but I feel the intent is to choose articles that would interest the other readership.

@Diana I do agree that the Awl commenters are more arch than empathetic. I guess maybe it amuses me? I kind of like the idea of two parallel cocktail parties happening in side-by-side rooms, and they have different tones and different drinks, but it can be a lot of fun to wander back and forth between them?

Craftastrophies

@Limaceous I mean, like most things here if I am not interested, I just don't read it. But any more than there are at the moment would make me feel excluded, I think. I'm happy with there being a larger Awl Club, which I am not part of, as long as the Hairpin Club is still mostly what's here when I come here.

I feel like it's more a cocktail party, and the group of friends who have snuck off to look in the host's cupboards and fill each other in on our life dramas. And I don't want the cocktail party to go away - in fact, whenever I need another drink I enjoy mingling out there and talking to new people for a bit. But I'm really here for my own friends, and I don't want all the loud shiny people barging in on my gossip session.

Choire

@Craftastrophies (Hey, just wanted to butt in here and say that we're working on unified commenting across sites right now. Very excited. I personally HATE having to log into both sites and like, I WORK HERE, so having a single commenter identity across all sites will be fun and nice and easy. Even if no one uses it, it'll make me happy.) <3 <3 <3

thebestjasmine

@Diana Could not agree with you more about the Awl commenters. I hate it when there's a good Awl post crossposted here that I want to comment on (I usually just end up linking it in an unrelated thread or something).

janedonuts

@Diana YES! I love Awl articles but always feel like a rube in the comments. Some of those people are very funny and smart, but that style doesn't seem to do much for the community.

julia

My only request as the site grows would be for Edith not to become so overwhelmed with editing/other things that she has no time to remind us the best time to pick our face or to conduct interviews with space objects.

atipofthehat

@julia

Yes, more Edith!

laurel

@julia This! I hate to even bring it up 'cause Edith rocks it all day every day but I love and miss her li'l MacPaint (or whathaveyou) drawings.

atipofthehat

@laurel

Yes! And could we have her come to our houses sometime?

No?

Just checking.

laurel

@atipofthehat I would like Edith to come over and play with fruits and vegetables.

atipofthehat

@laurel

She does that here.

BA-dum-dum!

atipofthehat

I would like to see original fiction, or links to fiction elsewhere.

Same with small movies for the web.

annepersand

@atipofthehat I would totally be into more of a fiction presence on the 'Pin!

She Saved The World, Alot

@annepersand Thirded! More fiction!! More Leni Zumas?

cherrispryte

@atipofthehat Oooh I like this idea a lot.

feartie

@atipofthehat Yes more fiction, particularly the intriguing stuff. That witch story was really good.

tortietabbie

@atipofthehat Yes more fiction forever! And also poetry, too, sure. Creative writing!

Anita Ham Sandwich

I'd like to read more sex stories and a bit more about politics. Maybe a combined topic of politics of sex, but not sexy politics. Blech.

redheaded&crazy

@Anita Ham Sandwich I second these requests!

I will also accept sexy politics, however, i.e. fanfiction about the obamas?

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:D
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Anita Ham Sandwich

@redheadedandcrazy
For another redhead, I'm happy to make a concession for Obama fanfiction. "Barack ran his hands over Michelle's toned triceps as he spun her around the ballroom. The two trampled over Newt Gingrich's feet (the injury would lead to gangrene), and Callista shattered into a thousand pieces as Barack and Michelle's taut, twirling bodies swept past."

Oh. Should nobody die during the sexy fanfiction?

rayray

@redheadedandcrazy I HAD A DREAM TWO DAYS AGO THAT I WAS HAVING AN AFFAIR WITH BARACK OBAMA AND HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR A TIME TO TELL THE HAIRPIN THANKYOU.

(It was hawt. But then I had a crisis of conscience about Michelle. Also on hearing it my friend Janelle says 'So... is it true? CAN he?')

travelmugs

@rayray I've had recurring sexy Biden dreams. Don't worry about it too much. I don't think Jill is getting too angry about my subconscious. I just can't help it!

mczz

@travelmugs I have had some kind of a crazy crush on Biden for a long time now.

Blackwatch Plaid

@Anita Ham Sandwich What what what?? I had an Obama affair dream two nights ago too! We got high together and then boned! I have no idea how I feel about that!

miwome

@glittercock I once dreamed that I got high with Hillary Clinton, but there was no boneage.

CheeseWizard

@Anita Ham Sandwich Scandals of Classic Politics?

ms. potatohead

@rayray, @Anita Ham I just logged in to comment for the first time to say because I ALSO HAD THIS OBAMA-BONING DREAM! How can this be a thing? In my dream we got high and played wii in the white house. I asked him: "are you worried about being re-elected?" and we both burst into a round of stoned giggles and laughed till we cried. Then we did it. I am not making this up.

inkysmudge

@rayray @Anita This calls for a non-competitive-but-also-yes-kind-of-competitive installment of those Awesomely Bad bracket posts that happened awhile ago. It's almost March Madness, too, so it's seasonal. Wonderful and Terrible Sex Dreams Submitted by 'Pinners: The Deathmatch. For example: Chris O'Dowd and I were in a hammock, and I knew he was a psycho vampire and going to kill me, but did we bone anyway? Yes we did.

miwome

@inkysmudge Ooh! I once dreamed I made out with Iggy Pop.

Quinn A@twitter

More politics might be interesting - as long as they're not always US-centric. There's already way too much US political knowledge taking up space in my Canadian brain! Also, I'd want any political content to take a typically delightful Hairpin approach, because otherwise I might as well just keep watching/reading the news, y'know?

Sports don't interest me at all (except that I watch the FIFA World Cup every four years in an attempt to bond with my father), so I will admit to hoping that if you add more sports-related articles it won't be in place of any of the things I come here for.

Fig. 1 (formerly myfanwy)

@Quinn A@twitter International Hairpin! As a Canadian I always feel validated when Canada stuff shows up on the websites I read. Yes, this is how I get my validation, stop judging me, people

ilikemints

@Quinn A@twitter As an American, I would really like to hear about other countries! Maybe a who's who in international politics, what they stand for, who sucks, who's cool, and why? And what the big issues facing those countries? All the US-centered stuff makes me woefully ignorant about international affairs, and I would really love something like this.

pointy

@ilikemints Yeah, a Hairpin Foreign Correspondent or Letter from [x] feature could be great.

heroicdestinysquad

More sports please! Ideally, more sports coverage taking the form of Edith getting black out drunk with Joe Mauer? Or Jared Allen?

I'd also love to see non-fiction books getting play.

Inconceivable!

@heroicdestinysquad I would die and go to heaven if Joe Mauer appeared on the Hairpin.

Decca

More books coverage?

annepersand

@Decca Yes please! The Hairpin has a lot of literary ladies, literary lovin' ladies, and ladies who love literary lovin' ladies. (I am now picturing a Lesbians of Literature feature and it's making my day better.)

Flora Poste

@Decca YES definitely! More books coverage thirded. I love "What Old Book Do I Read If..."

travelmugs

@Flora Poste YES YES. More books. Old books, news books, highbrow books, lowbrow books, pretty ways to display books. All books.

Diana

@Flora Poste

Oh shit I forgot about my favorite column of all! Please up the frequency of "What Old Book Do I Read If..." by a million factors. Reading Villette has kicked off an INSATIABLE PASSION and I haven't read any books written after 1870 since then.

miwome

@Decca In this vein, I would loooooove to see a YA column, and/or a sci-fi column. There are a lot of Pinners who are into YA, that much I know! I bet somebody from Forever Young Adult could write it, if there isn't a commenter/somebody else who would like to. (I would, but my tastes are too narrow. It wouldn't be fair.)

pterodactgirl

@Flora Poste Moar Carrie Hill Wilner!

apples and oranges

@miwome A YA column would make me swoon.

EpWs

@miwome YUSSSSS YA column!

Carrie Hill Wilner

@awwwwyouguuuuyyyssssss "what old book do I read if I am totally blushing?"

Craftastrophies

@kangerine Yes yes yes please! My tastes are too narrow, too. Maybe we could each do one? My top five YA books? If you only read one YA book, which would it be?

miwome

@Craftastrophies Ooh! I think a Round Robin style thing could be cool, where we rotate! Or maybe like a group chat with the same people, where we talk about what we've (presumptuous choice of pronoun!) read lately and what we (again!) liked about it? A public book club, sort of.

ETA if I had to make a top five list that was actually limited to five I think I might spontaneously divide into clones so as to be able to have multiple lists. I suck at picking favorites.

EpWs

@miwome I cannot pick tops. I can maybe pick tops in very specific categories ("Best YA series about badass princesses and dragons") or compile absurdly long master lists ("Top 200 YA books about awesome ladies"). Also YES TO GROUP CHAT.

Craftastrophies

@miwome I know. My top one is 'Tamora Peirce books'. So, that's only about five dozen books, that I am cheating by making it one. But seriously, I would love to hear from more of the YA fans out there. I read so much more YA stuff than anything else these days. I love the 'what old book should I read' but seriously, I am not going to be reading anything that is prosically difficult while I am still Editing for a job, my brain can't take it. But I can't stand vapid books. So YA it is! But I need recommendations, because as said before, my reading is narrow.

I would LOVE a public book club, either a loose what we read, or we all pick one book and then group-discuss.

ilikemints

@Craftastrophies I could def do YA fantasy. It's like... 85% of my reading material. Distopian teenagers forever!

Craftastrophies

@The Everpresent Wordsnatcher Actually, I like this idea more. Best series involving magic (subcategories: dragons, earth magic, fey, knights), best distopian/post apocalyptic series, best... what?

Seriously, I need this in my life.

miwome

@Craftastrophies @ ilikemints @The Everpresent Wordsnatcher @kangerine I just want to grow my arms longer to hug you all right now.

Maybe the winning formula is: unstructured group chat with a different category theme each time? So one on dragons, one on knights, one on craft magics, one on adaptations of myths/legends, one on dystopian teens, ETCETERA FOREVER.

EpWs

@Craftastrophies Oh hells to the yes. A whole category of non-romance-driven female-main-character novels too, please? (And then another one of romance-driven-but-we-love-them ones too)

EpWs

@miwome YES. This seems perfect. Also non-fantasy ones too, even though it's out of my normal expertise. And also YA novels aimed at boys, which I don't see as much but they have to be there, right? (Basically we need to develop the best reading guide for Baby Cliffe once she reaches YA-hood.)

Craftastrophies

@miwome Craft magics!

I like that idea, because it means that you don't necessarily have to read extra as homework. We could contribute whatever we've already read about, and add more/reread if we have time.

But when? What time is it there for you now? It's 10:14 am here, on Tuesday. I am at work = fine for sporadic commenting, not great for group chats and in depth things.

PS I am rereading the Chrestomanci Series atm. So good!

miwome

@Craftastrophies CHRESTOMANCI!!! Yes!!

I think several of those are probably good for boys! And Percy Jackson. But yes, I must think about that more.

Re: Timing: I am on the East Coast, although in a week I'll be in Cairo (like, for the long haul). So, basically probably we would have to all submit what number plus or minus GMT we are and see if we can work something out?

EpWs

@Craftastrophies I'm East Coast time, working on Mondays and Wednesdays and schooling on Tuesdays and Thursdays, so who on earth knows what time would work best for everyone. This is the magic of the interwebs, though, right? (If we can't arrange a time that works for everyone, we could just camp out on a messageboard of some sort/email chain to everyone and people could reply at their own leisure over a set period of time--maybe a week?)

Craftastrophies

@The Everpresent Wordsnatcher This sounds excellent. Maybe wait until Miwome moves (cairo! Amaze!) and see what we can work out? And maybe suggest a first book/theme to read on? I am definitely going ona Dianna Wynne Jones binge, but I've also just re-read all my Tamora Pierce's.

inkysmudge

@Craftastrophies @Miwome Can we just have a Dianna Wynne Jones Club? I just reread the Chrestomancis and Howl's Moving Castle and the Dark Lord of Derkholm over Christmas, and I can't believe it took me so long to do it. I haven't read Tamora Pierce since 7th grade, I think it's time.

Craftastrophies

@inkysmudge It's TIME. Her later stuff is so amazing.

Omg, anyone read the most recent Beka Cooper? My partner and I basically never fight - we have polite discussions - but we had an actual fight about whether the twist at the end was in character or not.

miwome

@Craftastrophies @inkysmudge it's always time.

And @Craftastrophies ARE YOU KIDDING of course I read it. Of course.

I don't know whether it was in character--I think maybe not--but at the same time, said character was a little too one-noteedly good up until then, don't you think? And didn't they once hint at a...(augh trying not to spoil) pre-Beka's-involvement past that involved a less upstanding education?

That was one romance I LOVED, though. It built up organically, instead of Sudden Attacs of Passion, etc. You could totally see where George got a lot of his Georginess through Beka's eventual pairing off.

Craftastrophies

@miwome Right! My argument was basically that it only wasn't in character because we actually didn't see much of that person's character. Where they even in the second book? Barely at all, I think? I have yet to re-read Mastiff, but there was definitely build up. It's just that I didn't notice it because (spoilers, maybe? Trying not to) I'm so used to the characters on our side being Upstanding.

OMG the romance! I loved that, too. I loved the George-ness. George will forever be my favourites - the bits in Ali's books with George make me all weepy. Anyway, my partner also disliked that bit, he didn't trust him. He got really cranky when I read out one bit of description and said that that was how I felt about him. And he had to admit to the similarities in their characters :D I also loved how practical and Solid it was, how practical and unsentimental Beka is about romance, in general. So refreshing!

inkysmudge

@miwome Okay I know this is a tangent and I haven't read Beka Cooper (although clearly it looks as though I should) but while we're on our YA high over here I need someone to share the Dealing With Dragons love with me. I know not a lot of people have read them but it's like if you stuck a group of 'Pinners in an Enchanted Forest with dragons and cats and a giant blue flying donkey. It's amazing. I need a virtual high five of recognition from someone, you guys.

EpWs

@The Hairpin YA Club YES, seconding all of this, especially waiting until Miwome gets settled in Cairo. Also, I am going book shopping with a chunk of my tax return and SOMEONE GIVE ME A READING LIST, plz. What is this about Beka Cooper I am intrigued?
@inkysmudge OH FRIEND. It is a Patricia Wrede lovefest over here--we had a huge thread talk/fangirl moment about it a while back, and I would find it if I knew how to do such things. But yes, big high five, we heart Patricia Wrede and she can do no wrong, Kazul is my spirit animal, etc.

miwome

@inkysmudge I LOVED those. I'm really upset they're not available in an electronic edition, because I just cannot be accumulating more dead tree unless it's a serious addition to my academic/professional library, but I want to reread them so badly!

@The Everpresent Wordsnatcher Beka Cooper is the latest in a long series of series (weird) by Tamora Pierce, all set in the same world. It stands quite well on its own, although of course it's enriched by reading the other books because you get a lot of tiny references, but they're still great without that. It's about a girl who is, essentially, a city cop, but in a medieval city in an alternate universe. TP gets really into her research, so a lot of worldbuilding things like slang are totally accurate to old-timey England, but it's definitely a separate world (for one thing, there are magic powers!) Beka is an incredibly competent, passionate, but real girl who is GREAT at her job but totally awkward with friends/love/public speaking, has fabulous animal companions, and great supporting characters. So put THAT on your reading list. (I would give you more things for your reading list, but this is already a novel IN ITSELF. I will just repeat, Kushiel's Dart!! So trashy, so wonderful.)

EpWs

@miwome LOVE IT. I was/am alllll about some Tamora Pierce (Lioness quartet, Protector of the Small, Immortals, Circle of Magic) so I'll be hitting up some Beka Cooper awesomeness asap. Also wtf is up with the plural of series being series, I can't even.

Craftastrophies

@The Everpresent Wordsnatcher I have not read Dealing with Dragons. But I just put it into a virtual shopping cart. Before I close it off, what else is essential reading? What books, if you found out I haven't read them, would you FLIP OUT. This is how I rediscovered Wynne Jones - I'd read one or two as a kid but forgotten about her, and then a friend freaked out because I hadn't read them.

Mine are Tamora Pierce. Have you read ANY Tamora Pierce? You must, you must! I luff her forever. I don't know, on reflection, what I would advise you to start with. The Alanna ones are first, but not probably the best written. But they roll along pretty fast - you could probably read all four in a weekend, and I have been known to do just that. Please, discover Tamora. She has lots and lots of amazing books to read.

Miwome, what are your faves? Mine are the Trickster ones, I think. Although I am pretty fond of Keladry, and I will ALWAYS love the Alanna ones. They made me feel so much less alone, as a teen. Also, have you read The Will of the Empress?

EpWs

@Craftastrophies You may want to grab the next two in the Dealing With Dragons series (I think there's only three, right?) while you're at it, if budget allows. Also, have you read any Garth Nix? If not, start with Sabriel, it stands alone well, and then read Lirael and Abhorsen if time and budget allow. I also LOVE love love some Phillip Pullman, and will be re-reading them soon (my copies are falling apart)--those are great if you're into slightly alternate universe/spiritual/philosphical YA coming of age stuff. Fantastic, promise. If you're into dragons, get thee some Jane Yolen pit dragons series (Dragon's Blood, Heart's Blood, etc.). Clearly I was into a pile of fantasy YA when I was younger so I'm biased in that direction.

hedgehog

@miwome Kushiel's Dart is THE BEST.

Craftastrophies

@The Everpresent Wordsnatcher Part of the reason that I like YA is that I like fantasy and sci-fi, but I cannot STAND the man-fic that passes for that these days. I don't care about your giant... um... sword. But YA fic has to at least have some kind of plot and themes, so they're mostly good.

My partner lent me the Abhorsen trilogy last year. I liked but didn't love them - the romances annoyed me, especially in the last book. But I definitely liked his style, and they might be less annoying on re-reading. I have put some Phillip Pullman on my wishlist for next pay :)

EpWs

@Craftastrophies I can absolutely see your point re: romances in Nix. They are not the strong point of those books. But the bad-ass ass-kicking ladies help redeem it, I think? Also, killer librarians FTW.

Also, if we get into awesome fantasy and sci-fi, can we page Nicole Cliffe over here and get some Dune talk going? It's not YA but it should go on the booklist.

ALSO also, about Pullman: I did not see the one movie that was made from those books (The Golden Compass. Involved Nicole Kidman, James Bond, etc., I think?) and am not planning on it, but the books are phenomenal and well worth a read. I hope you love them when you get to them!

Craftastrophies

@The Everpresent Wordsnatcher Yes, I think so. But I wasn't expecting it. So I think I might re-read them, and I can sort of edit the romance bit out, a bit? That's not right, but I can minimise it and concentrate on the good bits. Although I almost stopped reading the third one because I was SO not interested in the Prince's storyline. Yawn. Get back to the kick arse ladies! She was my favourite protagonist.

Which Pullman should I start with?

Also... will you hate me if I say I didn't like Dune? I only read it as an adult, and I enjoyed it. And bits of it were fantastic. But Paul gives me the absolute shits.

EpWs

@Craftastrophies The only Pullman I've read is the His Dark Materials series, which is VERY sequential. Definitely start with The Golden Compass and read the trilogy in order--Compass, Subtle Knife, Amber Spyglass. (ps: Spyglass will make you cry. Be aware. This is part of the reason I love it.)

I will not hate you if you don't like Dune! I didn't read it until I was an adult, and loved it, but Paul can be a bit of a douche. I totally understand.

Craftastrophies

@The Everpresent Wordsnatcher To be fair, I did read it right as I was getting super over man-sci-fi. But basically I wanted to read the book about the Ben Gesserit - have we had this conversation? I have definitely said this in the comments here, to someone. Anyway, I loved bits of it, and some of the prose was amazing. The description of grief was bang on. I can see why people loved it, but I didn't. I am glad I read it, but I don't need to read it ever again.

smack

@Decca If the Hairpin started recommending cool new books that are under the radar and would make me look all hip and awesome for reading them I would finally be able to ditch these albatrosses I call "human friends" who have been taking up so much of my weekend time.

sceps yarx

@Craftastrophies I love Diana Wynne Jones sooooo much!

inkysmudge

@The Everpresent Wordsnatcher and everyone else: DUDE I am so glad there was a lovefest, I feel that all is right with the world once more. Abhorsen series is the shit although I found them harder and harder to get through. Philip Pullman did an awesome series of victorian murder mysteries before he did His Dark Materials. It starts with The Ruby In the Smoke, check it out.

sceps yarx

@Diana Have you read Wilkie Collins? If you're getting your victorian on, I would highly recommend "the Woman in White". It's pulpy in all the very best ways, and has a fabulous brainy female lead.

sceps yarx

@inkysmudge I know what you mean, the first book is excellent but then they kind of devolve into action-mayhem. I kept hoping Nick would get some actual scenes and interact with other characters, but it never really came together. I kind of had a literary crush on him so I was hoping for more!

miwome

@Craftastrophies Part of the reason that I like YA is that I like fantasy and sci-fi, but I cannot STAND the man-fic that passes for that these days. YES. I had a whole talk with a (well-meaning, lovely, but often pretentious) friend of mine where I explained that actually "grown-up" (read: for boys) sci-fi was not at a higher level (wtf?) than girls' YA, which is where the ladies go. I got through to her! I was le happy.

Anyway, everyone, if we're gonna talk sci-fi, then obviously Azimov (I, Robot is one of those things I'm really bitter about never getting back from an ex), ANNE FREAKING MCCAFFREY (trashy again, but whatever, haters to the left), Ender's Game/all of the Bean novels.

Anyway, if we're talking boss YA, I do love Hunger Games, hate if you want, and also Uglies and OMG PLAIN KATE. Plain Kate is incredible. I have a bunch of other things on my wish list but cassshhhh, you guys, the cash. (OF COURSE I LOVE GNIX, but y'all have covered it well.)

I am sure I am forgetting a million things but I was out drinking for the past four hours! So many farewells to make here!

Craftastrophies

@miwome Guuuuuuuuysssssssssssssss. I had to go to the oral surgeon (he said yes, I have to have my wisdom teeth out and yes, it's going to be epic. Wah.) Anyway, the surgery is next to a second hand book store. I got Dark Lord of Derkholm, which I haven't read, and a bunch of other things to try, for like $1 each. And I remembered about other YA fiction! Cynthia Voigt, anyone? Also, has anyone heard of Isobelle Carmody, Jackie French or Victor Kelleher? They are excellent Australian authors, and worth checking out if you can find things by them.

Carmody is apparently working on the last book in her epic series that she started when I was in Primary School. But she also has a bunch of single books, which are actually my faves. And Kelleher's books are so trippy - he wrote down his dreams and turned them into stories. Oh, and, come to think of it, Emily Rodda. She wrote the Deltora Quest series that my sister loved but I never read. But I LOVED Rowan of Rin, which is about this shy kid who has to go on this quest to save his village, and it's amazing. She also wrote The Best Kept Secret, about a time travelling roundabout, and Finder's Keepers, about a split where you can go to an alternate reality, where all our lost stuff ends up, and there's a gameshow about it. My family still says 'it must have gone over to the other side, just wait until they throw it back' if we've lost our keys, etc. That's how come they're definitely not where you left them, and then someone else looks, and they are!

Craftastrophies

@miwome Oh man, Anne McCaffrey. I love(d?) her. But I reread a bunch last year and some of it is... a bit rapey. But I can't bear to get it off my bookshelf even though I might never read it again, because she was such a formative influence for me. Um, those two sentences do not go together. Anyway, Anne 4eva. I am a Arthur C. Clarke rather than Asimov. Love Asimov's non fiction, like the ideas in his short fiction, but that man could not write a beautiful sentence or a female character to save his life. But Clarke really does it for me - have you read that story about how anything could happen, even if everything has been normal so far, because of infinite possibilities? Gave me the shivers.

Have not read the Hunger Games, they're on my (long) list. Have you read Big Big Sky?

miwome

@Craftastrophies Ok first of all, I realized I forgot THE DARK IS RISING SERIES. So good, so so so good.

Secondly, yes, McCaffrey=often rapey. But I loved her To Ride Pegasus series, and she did a book of short stories once that revealed a whole other side of her, IMO--I wish she would have explored that more; it was far more...mature, I guess?...than the Pern books.

Thirdly, I like Arthur C. Clarke too! I just dig Asimov's ideas, I guess. (My dad read me Childhood's End as a bedtime story, no lie.)

Fourthly, I just realized I forgot Diane freaking Duane! I fucking love the Young Wizards series, and the first series she ever wrote--Door Into Fire, etc.--is actually really great! It's very...sexual, but in a very 70s progressive sort of way (everybody is bi/pansexual, and the whole religion is kind of about sex...? But like, spiritual sex. They call it "sharing," I swear to god, but it's awesome. Also, 100% only rapey in the sense of actual rape, not, "ooh, she succumbed and it was sexy," and mostly 100% not rapey at all. ["mostly 100%"? Jesus.])

Finally, I have the first five of the John Carter series (which I got electronically for $2) and I am sort of scared to read them, for gender reasons. Help? Anyone?

miwome

@miwome @all Also, I am so touched/happy/grateful by your spontaneous desire to wait until I'm ready (YOU SEE WHAT I DID THERE). No but really, that Gives Me Feelings. You guysssss, I love YA and also you.

Craftastrophies

@miwome See, we really want the first discussion to be with you. But we don't want you to do anything you're not comfortable with. Because we care about you(r opinion).

I never really read the Pern series - only Master Harper. I read the Crystal Singer ones a bunch of times before I really got what sex was, and now I'm scared to revisit. I LOVED the pegasus ones, but my faves were the 'ship who' series. Oh man, I actually sort of forgot about those. And it CAN'T be rapey, because she's a freaking brain inside a spaceship. So platonic/unresovable romantic love only.

Asimov's ideas are amazing. AMAZING. OMG Dianne Duanne! I read 'So you want to be a wizard' as a kid, and thought I'd made it up until I saw it on a friend's bookshelf. I freaked out. I think I might actually have read 'Door into fire' - or something very similar, maybe. I should go back and read some Le Guin again. Both of those authors are ones I read as a kid, and think I haven't read much, but then I start reading a book and I'll be like 'THIS! This is the book I barely remembered but was captivated by, and have been literally looking for for twenty years!' Also, Wynne Jones (The Power of Three, in case you were wondering).

pterodactgirl

@miwome Okay, so I feel like I've had this conversation before on the Hairpin, but we can't talk about sci-fi being targeted at dudes and not bring up Ursula K. LeGuin. She is SO SO SO good y'all, and she is for EVERYBODY. Please read The Left Hand of Darkness, or The Dispossessed, or The Lathe of Heaven. Read them all and then we can all chat! They will fill that gap in your soul left by stupid dude-bro-y SF in the best way!

Also, I've only read the first John Carter, and while it was kind of fun in a "classic boys fiction" way, it also totally has the sexist and racist elements you expect...Womp womp.

miwome

@Craftastrophies Have you read the later books? Because the ninth one that came out a couple years ago is INCREDIBLE, and a lot of them are and deal with Serious Life Issues, and omg omg omg.

I really only read the first Earthsea book, but I remember I liked it! And speaking of books that you come across and go OMG YOU HAPPENED TO ME WHEN I WAS A YOUNGUN, I have recently remembered who the hell E. Nesbit is, and I have been simply overcome.

EpWs

@Craftastrophies Guys, please don't hate me, I have never read Le Guin. It's on my list! I promise! Where should I start?

celacia

@The Everpresent Wordsnatcher Re: Dealing with Dragons - there are three and a book of short stories (The Book of Enchantment, I think?) that has a related story in it.

Also @miwome & @Craftastrophes re: Diane Duane - The first two of the Young Wizards books (the only ones that were out when I was an 'appropriate' age for them) were hugely influential on the way I view the world.

Also, also? Margaret Mahy. The Catalogue of the Universe taught me (at the ripe old age of 10) that it was ok to think that smart, dorky boys could be sexy too.

ada fuckface

@pterodactgirl Can someone PLEASE write recommendations of awesome sci-fi with lady characters that don't suck? I love sci-fi (books and TV) but I've mostly stopped reading/watching it because wading through all the sexist garbage was too much for me. (Damn you, Heinlein!) These days I get my SFF fill from fanfic about sexbots, but I wouldn't mind moving back towards the professional stuff.

emm_gee

@all YA column yay! Tamora Pierce, Diana W-J, Ruby in the Smoke. All my faves. I knew there was a reason I love this place.

thebestjasmine

@emm_gee I am so into the YA column idea, but please not all sci-fi fantasy! Because I love YA and read a whole lot of it, but I read Sara Zarr and Stephanie Perkins and John Green and Gayle Foreman and Sarah Dessen and E. Lockhart, etc. I'd be into a contemporary YA column/discussion anytime!

sceps yarx

@ada fuckface Ooh,ooh, I am on this one like white on rice. My mom used to have a Science Fiction review column in a magazine.

You must read Lois McMaster Bujold. Her Vorkosigan series is soooo entertaining and good. The first two books have the best female lead in all of Science Fiction. They are called Shards of Honor and Barrayar, but they're also printed in a two book omnibus called Cordelia's Honor. The rest of the series follows her son, Miles, but they're still rife with stellar kick-ass ladies.

Eluki bes Shahar has a rad series called Hellflower, with a rad female lead named Butterflies-are-free Peace Sincere, who is pretty much a female Han Solo-smuggler, alien side-kick, owns her own spaceship, etc. Warning: the series is really poignant and totally makes you cry. And also, if you are turned on by robots and/or A.I. these are the books for you.

Also, every Connie Willis book has tons of rad female characters and they are mind-blowingly good. She has a time-travel series that is sort of half way between Sci Fi and historical fiction.

Of course Ursula K. LeGuin, always.

My mom and sister have really been into the Liaden series too, but I haven't read them yet.

miwome

@thebestjasmine Aahhh! We need you! This is exactly what I was worried about, because that is a world I know literally nothing about and I don't want this thing to be too specific, that would be sad. Other Pinners who are into non-sci-fi/fantasy YA, come out of the woodwork! I KNOW YOU'RE IN THERE.

Craftastrophies

@miwome Man. My wishlist is getting LONG. (This is a good thing!)

Ok, I have a weird rambling question. I thought this was a Nesbit book, but it doesn't appear to be. I read this book as a kid, and the only bits I remember are when the protagonist boy rocks up at his aunt's house to stay, the house is flooded, and he has a bedroom in the attic with a sloped roof. And then at the end, the bad guy is a ... tree thing? Anyway, it's blind, and there's a storm, and there's this show down where it can't see him and he has to basically play blind man's bluff with it. Does ANYONE know what I'm talking about?

@The Everpresent Wordsnatcher I have only read Earthsea, and maybe one or two more. Don't feel bad! We would never hate you.

@celacia MARGARET MAHY! Are you also an antipodean? Have you read any Maurice Gee? I just reread The Halfmen of O. Man, that book is great.

@thebestjasmine seconding miwome. We need you! I am not up to date, although my best friend is and I could ask her to lend me things. But as seen in this thread, I only just realised that YA doesn't mean sci fi. Because I read YA books like normal books without thinking about it, but I never read grown up sci fi anymore.

Jolie Kerr

More interviews with people who know everything about leather?

EDITH. My interview with the leather daddy is running in Thursday's column and I wish to God I were making that statement up. But um? Could you maybe not solicit my replacement while I'm sitting right here?

Edith Zimmerman

@Jolie Kerr Oh my god. Jolie.

Jolie Kerr

@Edith Zimmerman It's hard to remember all those things we planned when we were sober, isn't it? (Before any of you Children of Divorce start having PTSD, we're not really fighting. Mommy and Clean Mommy love each other very much.)

atipofthehat

@Jolie Kerr @Edith Zimmerman

All I know is, leather places have the best socks.

Craftastrophies

@atipofthehat And back seam stockings.

Clean Mommy! The greatest! (<3 you too, Regular Hairpin Mommy).

Emby

The intersection of science and feminism. That would be just gravy.

highjump

@Emby Word to this. And not just 'playing with test tubes in a man's world' but topics like the absence of women in clinical trials.

Emby

@highjump Booyah. Exactly what I'm talking about.

sarahe

@Emby OR women who do awesome things in science, like research sea snakes, or anything with parasites, OR EXOTIC DISEASES.

<3 u, Science.

Craftastrophies

@highjump Or older people, or POC, etc. With illustrative stories like the one about doctors thinking everyone's thyroids were inflamed, because the knowledge they had of thyroids was from bodies from poorhouses, who had shrunken ones.

crookedlegs

@highjump Or the ethics of excluding pregnant women from clinical drug trials because the teratogenicity of the drugs isn't yet known, leading to a gap in our knowledge of how those drugs affect pregnant women, meaning that we can't prescribe a whoooole lot of drugs to pregnant women when they get sick because we just don't know how they work in those ladies. (Or something less specific.)

highjump

@crookedlegs YES. That thing! It needs to be discussed! Especially since that means we end up giving pregnant women off label drugs originally intended for, like, asthma and shit. How does that even happen? Was a doctor really really desperate and started pumping whatever into an equally desperate to stay pregnant woman who had signed a bunch of forms just to see if it would work? Are there "I didn't know I was pregnant and I was taking this drug but my baby is fine" stories that led to pregnant women getting those drugs? So many questions.

crookedlegs

@highjump If you have access to bioethics journals, look up Francoise Baylis - she's done a lot of work on this topic (and many others - try Googling "Francoise Baylis pregnant women" to narrow it down!)

wormlady

@sarahe I could write about parasites!

leonstj

I know it's the most insane / time-consuming request in the world, and is probably only sustainable as a 'once-in-a-while' thing, but I would love to read (without naming names) a "long read" now and then, the kind of thing I have to set aside and stretch over a couple subway rides, of reporting done by some of this sites more common voices - I am thinking of things like John Murray's ridiculously good series on Ciudad Juarez or the Maria Bustillos stuff at The Awl.

OH! Maybe just steal some Maria for The Hairpin? She is my current internet-writer-crush.

Limaceous

@leon.saintjean Yes. More Maria is always the answer.

whizz_dumb

@leon.saintjean Maria's writing is impressive in style and content. Pretty sure one piece made me cry.

Feminist Killjoy

@whizz_dumb Who is this Maria lady? Tell me more

atipofthehat

@leon.saintjean

How about an online cooking show with you, among others?

Nothing wrong with a little original video.

spoondisaster

@atipofthehat I would volunteer to do this online cooking show, if The Hairpin would have me. It would be titled Whiskey and Creme Fraiche Make Everything Better (No Really).

leonstj

@atipofthehat - AHH I am working on an online cooking show. A whole channel of content actually, with little segments and niches and a bunch of people I know as personalities.

Mine is basically me in a balaclava (three hole style) and a friend of mine with a stupid thick South Shore Masshole accent shotgunning beers, retelling our favorite parts of "Please Kill Me", reciting Walt Whitman, and chugging whiskey by the bucket whilst cooking fancypants gourmet food.

atipofthehat

@leon.saintjean

I WOULD WATCH THIS SHOW YOU SPEAK OF.

atipofthehat

@spoondisaster

I would drink it and lick the spoon if you let me.

spoondisaster

@atipofthehat I will set aside an extra spoon just for you!

Dancercise

I'm not generally into sports coverage, but I hope there will be some cool/funny/interesting/unique takes on the Olympics this summer!

Diana

@Dancersize

I WILL HAVE SO MANY THOUGHTS ON WOMEN'S GYMNASTICS. Please give them a healthy outlet.

highjump

@Diana I would like to subscribe to this newsletter.

miwome

@highjump Meeee toooo.

apples and oranges

@Dancersize I LOVE THE OLYMPICS AND I WILL GIVE UP MY LIFE TO WRITE THIS COVERAGE

labor of love people, labor of love.

ellochka

@Dancersize THE OLYMPICS ARE THE LITERAL BEST.

OhMarie

@kangerine I already posted this upthread, but I also will do this. For the last 3 Olympics that have happened since I ditched cable TV, I've actually gotten cable for a few weeks just for the Olympics.

ImASadGiraffe

@Diana Women's gymnastics is the highlight of the Summer Olympics for me. Not just the US though - the Russian divas! Beth Tweddle from GBR's amazing bar routines with like 10 million release moves! Lauren Mitchell from AUS and her crazy floor routine music and turns!

Also, Olympic gymnastics scandals from the past - the 2000 Sydney vault debacle anyone? Or the 1992 USSR switcheroo for the all-around competition that pretty much sealed the deal for Shannon Miller's silver medal?

Anyway, I would love more about that. Obviously.

olivebee

My favorites (that I would love to see more of) are Personal Bests and those "articles" that don't really have a category but are funny and creative...like the phobias one, the anti-bucket list, the "what does the way you pay say about you," the novel name puns, etc etc etc.

likethestore

@olivebee Yes, the funny weird ones are the best.

olivebee

@olivebee Also: those tournament-style Amusingly Horrible submission posts. They don't always have to be amusingly horrible, but that style of post is pretty great because it includes a ton of readers.

Craftastrophies

@olivebee More puns, please.

Diana

MORE HISTORY! I would love more history. Teach me things, Hairpin! I'd love more sports (baseball season is just around the cooorrrnneerrrgogiants). But yeah, I'd love for people to write articles about unexpected/overlooked/interested/underrated stories in history. I loved the history of undergarments that we had going on in here for awhile!

The Lady of Shalott

@Diana Hot damn, I would volunteer to write that shit EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK.

Jolie Kerr

@Diana YES!! I was just thinking the other day that if I had all the time in the world I would want to start a site like i09 but for history/historical fiction. But maybe we could have a history corner here at The 'Pin? And maybe even a historical fiction corner because I KNOW my Philippa Gregory girls are out there somewhere. (Related: WHERE ARE YOU BITCHES?? We could have a whole month devoted to Books About Incest and do a literary ("literary") comparison of Flowers in the Attic and the Wideacre series. COME NOW. REVEAL YOURSELVES.)

The Lady of Shalott

@Jolie Kerr omg omg omg omg CAN WE TALK ABOUT WIDEACRE, EVERY SINGLE DAY? Because truly I have never read a more deliciously stupid cracked-out piece of weirdness masquerading as historical fiction.

(THE MAN-TRAP, YOU GUYS)

cherrispryte

@Jolie Kerr HELL YES. The True Confessions of Charlotte Doyle and Catherine Called Birdy and YES Philippa Gregory! (Yeah, I read more YA lit than I ought to. Judge me.)

Jolie Kerr

OMG THE MAN TRAP!! I WAS JUST THINKING ABOUT RALPH AND THE MAN TRAP LAST NIGHT!!!!!!

I nominate Shalott and Cherri to lead a rousing discussion of the Wideacre series.

Tuna Surprise

@Diana YES!! So many of the Pinners are in grad school/have fancy degrees in cool subjects or just a knowledge base in fascinating subjects. From the comments alone you can tell people have stories to tell. I'm going home right now to condense my thesis on the history of Area 51 into a blog post.

The Lady of Shalott

@Jolie Kerr Oh oh oh oh oh oh also THE BDSM ATTIC

OwlOfDerision

@Tuna Surprise This is a good idea. Why not have a series in which 'Pinners with obscure areas of study/job specialisation write about what exactly they do. Then I can tell you all about 18th century transvestite monkeys and drunk ladies in huge wigs (in cartoons).

Dorothea

@Jolie Kerr hark a vagrant!

Jolie Kerr

@The Lady of Shalott "Fictional Attics We Have Loved"

leastimportantperson

@cherrispryte OMG Catherine Called Birdy, 100 readings are NOT ENOUGH.

Craftastrophies

@OwlOfDerision Yes. Yes yes yes yes yes yes, all the time, all the yesses.

inkysmudge

@OwlOfDerision That is literally all I want to read about.

AniaGosia

@OwlOfDerision Fun! Let's do this! I want to hear about other dissertations more than I want to work on my own (which is on Foucault)!

social theory

@leastimportantperson CATHERINE CALLED BIRDY. that is all. i need this YA column! also, the giver = why i am a sociologist probably.

Whitmans Sampler

If you decide to go with more sports coverage, that's fine. I just won't read those ones.

I will read more Letters to the Editors of Women's Magazines.

Bus Driver Stu Benedict

Have you been eating spinach?

oh, disaster

More recipes! Especially foods that are only going to eaten by one person (i.e. me).

ayo nicole

@andrea disaster YES! More food. Always.

sox
sox

@andrea disaster Yes, I hadn't thought about it, but How To Be A Healthy Person would be nice. Like for instance, how to make a meal plan for the week and shop for it (not provide us with weekly meal plans, but actually give us tips and tricks for meals that will work together over the week...for one.)

AniaGosia

@sox I need a How to Bring a Lunch to Work!

Decca

@AniaGosia Yes me too, for a Bring a Lunch to College.

Inconceivable!

I would love love love more sports coverage, as long as it's not dumbed down. (Not that I think the Hairpin would dumb it down, but even ladyblogs--ugh I hate that term--I like and respect have done things like "Ladyguide to the Super Bowl", which is the worst)

Also, something akin to Ask an Abortion Provider, which was such a good series.

And maybe some TV stuff? I feel like we don't talk enough about Leslie Knope.

Diana

@Inconceivable!

Every single time that Bachelor column pops up to talk about "learning to love Ben", I assume that they mean Ben Wyatt and that the Hairpin is finally giving us the column we so desperately need to appreciate Parks and Recreation to our hearts' content.

highjump

@Inconceivable! There has got to be someone out there that can do some great Olympics coverage this summer for The Hairpin.

olivebee

@Inconceivable! TV STUFF, YES! I'm a TV addict. And your avatar is from my all-time favorite episode of P&R.

oh, disaster

Not to change the subject but... Happy Galentine's Day!

likethestore

@Inconceivable! I would love more TV talk since TV is like one of my major hobbies. Don't judge.

olivebee

@likethestore Hahaha my husband laughed me out of the room when I said I consider watching TV a favorite pastime of mine (and I was dead serious). He was like, "No...playing baseball, cooking, and writing novels are pastimes. Watching TV is the lazy man's boredom-killer."

But that's not how I watch it! I'm one of those TV freaks who gets personally invested in the characters' lives.

Lucienne

@likethestore I would also like more TV! Especially on a slightly ridiculous but awesome show. I mean The Vampire Diaries, obviously. Revenge would also be acceptable.

Or on something really over-looked.

OhMarie

@Inconceivable! Oh, or comedy. I freak out every time Hairpin refers to something related to stand-up comedy.

likethestore

@olivebee I feel you. If I don't have time to keep up with all My Shows, I can get cranky.

:Cinnamon Girl:

@Inconceivable! YES PLS TO TV TALK!

highjump

I would just like more content. More Hairpin-created content instead of quick links. Love the interviews, love the ask a [noun] columns, and love most of the Best Time I [verb]. I know this isn't always possible, but I loved how you were able to do those two interviews with Kate Bolick - following up on something the interwebs are buzzing about with more awesome information in our lady wheelhouse was great.

The personal finance column was a great idea! But poorly executed I think. Bring in someone with some credentials and it could be wonderful. Ask a CPA? Ask a broker? Ask a credit counselor?

redheaded&crazy

@highjump BRING IN SUZE ORMAN

WaityKatie

@redheadedandcrazy But I'm scared of the Orman. All the yelling, and the crazy eyes.

highjump

@redheadedandcrazy She is dead to me because of the pre-paid debit card thing.

itmakesmewonder

@highjump ASK TESS VIGELAND

mczz

@highjump yes to all of this, especially the Ask a CPA/broker/credit counselor idea!

redheaded&crazy

@WaityKatie WHO ARE YOU CALLING CRAZY *HARD STARE*

Craftastrophies

@highjump Yes to more content. I like the links, but I like the content about a bajillion times more.

likethestore

I like the personal stories, like the one from the abortion provider, and The Best Time I whatever. I think this separates us from other lady sites. I love anything about women's history, and of course Esther's comics.

I stopped reading Jezebel because of the politics. I love this site because the comments section is (usually) nice and supportive. Political debate is one way to bring out the trolls and flames.

Oh god, please no sports.

redheaded&crazy

@likethestore you make a very good point about politics! I would like to read more politics, but I can see the potential for things to get Hea-Ted, which wouldn't make me so happy.

how about a guide to how to talk about politics without annoying everybody around you

i need this. i'm told that i get ... "irritating"

likethestore

@redheadedandcrazy My reasoning is that I can go anywhere else to read about politics, but the Hairpin is like my safe space where I just happily assume that everyone is feminist and we all get along la la la.

skyslang

@likethestore I could not agree with you more! I left Jezebel for the same reason. The Hairpin has a really unique POV..it's smart, it's thoughtful, it's informative...but it's also entertaining, creative and fun. I don't want to see the site loose that. In fact, I want MORE of that.

Craftastrophies

@likethestore And also, I don't care very much about American politics, or at least only as much as I am already getting info about. I'm pretty sure you don't care about Australian politics. There are plenty of nationalities here, it makes that tricky. I like gingernut's idea, though. I mean, can we talk about politics without talking about actual politics? That would be fine. Meta-politics.

No sports for me, either, but if there were sports articles I would skim them, probably. I mean, it doesn't have my vote but it wont ruin the pin for me, or whatever.

I had an idea for a Scandals type thing, except with oldentimes Feminists. It would give a potted history, and not skim over their dark side - being into eugenics, or hating gay people, or being classist, or kind of a dick, or whatever. I was going to research one and submit it but basically it looks like I'll never have time, ever, so if someone else wants to steal it that's cool with me.

likethestore

@Craftastrophies That's a really good point about politics - I'm Canadian and while I'm certainly interested in American politics, that interest is limited because there's not a whole lot I can do about anything.

:Cinnamon Girl:

@likethestore "My reasoning is that I can go anywhere else to read about politics, but the Hairpin is like my safe space where I just happily assume that everyone is feminist and we all get along la la la."

THIS so many times THIS!

Pls no politics. Pleaseeeeee. The only exception - I think - is a personal slant to an issue that can be political (Ask An Abortion Provider). Humanizing pieces are always welcome in my ideal version of The Pin.

laurel

This is more a housekeeping thing, but I'd like it if when I hit post on a comment in an early thread the screen didn't jump down to the bottom of all the comments. It's no big most of the time but in some of those 500+ comment threads it takes a bit of effort to find my place again. Because I read pretty much alllll the comments.

dj pomegranate

@laurel Seconded.

redheaded&crazy

@dj pomegranate Thirded!

miwome

@redheadedandcrazy Fourtheded. Never had I made such use of Command+F before I started reading this site.

snuffleupagus

@redheadedandcrazy fourthed

Valley Girl

@laurel On another technical note, someone recently suggested bumping the avatars up to 100x100. I think that would be awesome for some of us Squints McGees.

She Saved The World, Alot

@snuffleupagus Cuatro-ed? And cinco-ed.

itmakesmewonder

@laurel I saw this comment while trying to roll up to another comment I just left. SIXTHED.

snuffleupagus

@miwome d'oh, you beat me to it. fourth and a halfed!

Craftastrophies

@snuffleupagus God, yes, PLEASE.

@Valleygirl bumping them up here, or on people's profile. I'd like it if I could at least go to the profile page and see what it is without leaning into the screen and squinching up my nose like an old person.

Maria

@laurel This is precisely why I love that my avatar pic is hot pink. Easy to scan back up to where I left off after I replied.
Would have been really cool if I'd done that on purpose.

angelinha

@laurel And also if when you thumbs-upped a comment and brought it to, say, 16 likes, it wouldn't make it look like all of the comments in that thread also had 16 likes.

Craftastrophies

@Maria I've been replying on this post and the going up and down is making me motion sick. It's especially bad when there are a lot of comments. Sometimes I won't comment at all because of it.

Alixana

I am going to make this my LAST comment on this topic, because I am boring even myself with it, but it would be nice to see more consideration of accessibility issues across the board. In the context of my hearing loss, obviously I'm not talking about the music posts which are what they are, but I mean ... maybe choosing the TAL excerpt WITH a transcript available, instead of the one without? Or linking to transcripts of videos, where available? I know it takes way too much (wo)man power to transcribe all the things all the time, but there are efforts that can be made. I have not really been keeping track, but I have the sense that there are at least several posts a week in which I can't participate at all, and that doesn't have to be the case.

And, I don't know if we have any vision-impaired 'Pinners, but the occasional use of image descriptors / helpful alt-text would be hugely helpful if we do. Not on every post, because again, there are times where the alt-text is part of the joke, but ... for instance, maybe a image descriptor on Friday Open Threads, so everyone can ponder what the horse (that maybe they can't see) is thinking.

Judith Slutler

@Alixana This is a great non-boring suggestion!

Fig. 1 (formerly myfanwy)

@Alixana I love transcripts as well - sometimes I just don't want to/am not able to watch a video. I also appreciate alt-text, especially clever ones.

fondue with cheddar

@Fig. 1 (formerly myfanwy) Ditto on the transcripts! I primarily read The Hairpin at work, and don't usually have time on my lunch break to watch all the videos. Transcripts (where feasible) would make it easier for me to (a) get the info without having to turn on my speakers, and (b) determine which videos are most worth my [limited] time.

PistolPackinMama

@Alixana Yes, this would be a really good thing to work on. I have been wondering how this will go since someone (was it you?) asked about providing transcripts/subtitles to Jane's videos.

Craftastrophies

@jen325 Same same.

And Alixana, I second this. I don't currently have any accessability issues, but I want to be reading the 'pin when I am an old squinty lady. So, in about six months, is what I'm saying. And I generally would like to be a part of things that make thinking about these issues par for the course, so that even if not everything can be accessible 100% of the time, at least people don't feel shut out. I'm not bored by the topic :)

PistolPackinMama

@Alixana No, wait. I am going to rephrase that. This should really honestly be one of The Hairpin's first priorities. Accessibility is important if we want everyone who wants to to be able to participate.

automaticdoor

@Alixana This is a first priority issue! I have auditory processing issues and I have trouble listening to podcasts/talk radio. Videos are better because I can see people's mouths and follow a bit better that way, but this doesn't work so well for the majority of what's posted here. I would offer to help MAKE transcripts, but you know, the issues that I need them for preclude that?

Re: vision-impaired Pinners: we probably do have them. The Pin is a big site and by not having alt-text we might be discouraging people from signing up and/or to speak up about it who otherwise would. Also, the alt-text can have a description AND a joke! You know, [description] | [JOKE] or something.

camanda

I think sports coverage would kind of depend on how it's covered/what is covered. There are eight kazillion websites that already cover sports on a day-to-day basis, ones that do it well and ones that do it poorly, and I think that featuring sports from that angle takes a lot of time away from the kinds of things this site does singularly well. But, like, an interesting profile of a contemporary sportsperson or a Classic Scandals-style -- without nicking AHP's groove, natch -- story about some aspect of sports history would be cool. I always feel like there's not enough of that out there (especially from a non-infantilized women's perspective). Speaking as someone who once wrote a long-form piece on Harvey Haddix's not-perfect game, that is. Among other things.

As for more doses of an extant feature, I am a total creeper and LOVE the What's In Your Bag posts. And more "The Best Time I..." and longform Serious Items. MOAR POSTS ALL DAY.

Diana

@camanda

Holy shit can somebody write an article about professional women's baseball? I know we all have memorized A League of Their Own. Please oh please, somebody talk about this.

miwome

@Diana FIELD HOCKEY. Anything about field hockey. That sport is a wondrous combination of vicious and preppy-archaic.

Jolie Kerr

@miwome ANYTHING ABOUT KILTS. MORE KILTS ON THE HP. WE DEMAND KILTS. WE'RE HERE, WE'RE KILT, GET USED TO IT!!!

camanda

@Diana I did a research project on the AAGPBL in college! I wonder if I can find my notes.

Also, I LOVE A LEAGUE OF THEIR OWN.

C_Webb

@miwome WOMEN'S ICE HOCKEY.

laurel

@Jolie Kerr How 'bout a whole Skirts of Recreational Activities series? I'd like to hear from square dancing skirts and tennis skirts and cheerleading skirts and field hockey skirts and badminton skirts and...

DrFeelGood

The history of women in sports is fascinating, title IX, etc. More women in sports!

miwome

@C_Webb Sweet Jesus, yes.

@Jolie Kerr UTILIKILTS! KILTS AT ODD OCCASIONS! DYKES IN KILTS! CONSTRUCTION WORKERS IN KILTS! ALAN CUMMING IN A KILT THAT ONE TIME!

atipofthehat

@laurel

Okay, thanks, now I can't get up from the bleachers until it goes away.

laurel

@atipofthehat I don't know how you people get through the day.

Jolie Kerr

@laurel I have emailed Edith about this idea. I've already used the words "PINTEREST TIE-IN" because I need a giant pinboard of squaredancing skirts to take me through the end of my days.

laurel

@Jolie Kerr May your petticoats always be fluffy and twirly.

Tropical Iceland

@camanda I think instructional articles about sports and games that are male-dominated would be awesome. I would love to have someone tell me, for instance, why soccer is supposed to be interesting, or how to play pool without embarrassing myself.

Craftastrophies

@camanda Anyone else here ever play netball? I was reading PopCo and there was this bit where she describes how what position you play is generally a good descriptor of your personality. It was bang on. I was WD. A GOOD ONE, not just a pity one. Anyone else?

camanda

@Tropical Iceland How to play pool without embarrassing oneself is an idea I can get behind. But why soccer (or anything, and not just a sport) is supposed to be interesting is like...not an interesting topic to read or write about, I feel. It's kind of like explaining the joke to someone.

From a different angle, though, and perhaps closer to what you mean(?), the birth, evolution, and cultural evolution of a given sport can be really interesting -- it contextualizes it and demonstrates how the sport became popular, gives a sense of what a sport meant to people in its heyday (boxing, for instance, a sport that was once the biggest thing going, and now seems archaic and weird and an indicator of What's Wrong With Society when it's just, you know, a sport). Which still may not compel you to try watching it, but I think it takes some of the mystery out of it, in a good way. And, especially in the case of something like baseball that's overromanticized to the point of making me want to throw up (I love the sport but have literally not watched an entire inning in two seasons because of this), it's more objective, and more compelling, than sitting a fan in front of you and asking him or her, "Why should I like this?"

Generally speaking, though, I find personal reactions to sporting events vis-a-vis "this is what this meant to me" to be the ultimate in barf-inducing, so I might be biased. Give me the antics of Rube Waddell anyday.

smack

golf! Oh man. It's so sad y'all I wish I knew some ladies to golf with.

She Saved The World, Alot

I...just wrote rules to a Sherlock drinking game that @miwome and I are going to play virtually for our very own Galentines/Bender-dict Wineberbatch day? Buuuut that's probably just silly (but I'm so excited and I love drinking games so much and...that's writing, right? [Says the recently graduated Creative Writing major oh god what am I doing with my life?])

miwome

@She Saved The World, Alot I can confirm that these rules are both extensive and subtle, and will result in indecent inebriation. She's just hard like that.

She Saved The World, Alot

@miwome So many rules. So much chugging. I told my brother about this plan, and he suggested "Rumberbatch" for name-rhyme-y sake, but I prefere wine[berbatch].

likethestore

@She Saved The World, Alot I want to be your friend and play that game with you. I have a serious Benedict Cumberbatch problem.

miwome

@She Saved The World, Alot The idea of trying to play this game with hard liquor makes me need water and soothing foods.

pterodactgirl

@She Saved The World, Alot As someone who regularly makes up drinking games to play with classic movies, this sounds totally totally cool.

She Saved The World, Alot

@pterodactgirl @likethestore JOIN US! Are chat rooms still a thing? Does gchat do chat rooms?

I'm totally assuming you don't have romancey plans for tomorrow but if you DON'T! Tomorrow. 7pm. The internet. Be there.

If you do...have fun with yer romance :)

pterodactgirl

@She Saved The World, Alot Aw! I would love to! I don't have romance-y plans, but I do have a friend-date with a friend who broke up with her bf of 4 years on Saturday. We're each other's Valentines so I can't back out!

She Saved The World, Alot

@pterodactgirl Friend dates are the best dates! I'm actually meeting a friend for a writing date tomorrow, very excited. Have fun!

Craftastrophies

@She Saved The World, Alot You need to share this drinking game, stat. I cannot join you as it will either be nighttime or work time when you are doing it, but I need to KNOW.

She Saved The World, Alot

@Craftastrophies Very well :)

Here are the rules for Benderdict Wineberbatch Day:

-Sherlock says the word 'bored' or 'dull.' Twice if he shouts it and and destroys something.
-John is massively impressed with Sherlock. Twice if he states it outloud, three times if he uses more than 2 adjectives.
-Sherlock flirts with Molly in order to get into the lab.
-Donovan calls Sherlock a freak.
-Mycroft refers to "Mummy"
-Sherlock is perplexed by human emotions. Twice if John has to explain them.
-Lestrade begrudgingly admits that he needs Sherlock's help
-John tries to pick up a chick. Twice if he gets shot down.
-Someone suggests that John and Sherlock are a couple. Twice if John gets all awkward about it.
-Sherlock pops his collar. (Twice if it makes you want to lick him? ...Perhaps that's just me, who knows.)
-Mrs. Hudson reminds the boys that she's not their housekeeper.
-Sherlock uses his power of deduction for eeeevil rather than good (to make people incredibly uncomfortable/reveal their deepest darkest secrets.)
-Sherlock fakes emotion in order to get information out of someone.
-Sherlock dashes off and leave John behind
-Molly is a spaz.

Craftastrophies

@She Saved The World, Alot First or second season?

You are going to be soooooo drunk.

Now I want to lick him.

pterodactgirl

@She Saved The World, Alot Those are badass rules. You should have to waterfall for Mycroft mentioning "mummy" though. Doesn't actually happen that often, but always makes me giggle.

She Saved The World, Alot

@Craftastrophies I think these rules might apply to both seasons, actually. It might be the MOST fun to drink in Season 2 Episode one because my boy gets sooo awkward around Irene Adler and it just tickles me muchly. So extra rule, just for that episode: Waterfall when Sherlock gets flustered by The Woman.

@pterodactgirl And definitely waterfall for Mycroft when he says mummy because he's like a 50 year old GENIUS who still says "mummy." Gotta love it.

I ALWAYS wanna lick him. Originally the rules were just: "Drink whenever you get the urge to bang Sherlock." But that's like all. the. time. So...unhealthy, that.

Craftastrophies

@She Saved The World, Alot I just watched Hounds of the Baskervilles on the weekend. I have yet to watch the final one. But the bit about 'doing that thing, with your cheekbones and your collar' made me laugh so hard.

That show is so perfect. So unbelievably perfect.

Interrobanged

@She Saved The World, Alot He looks like an alien! I'm a lesbian! I loathe children, but I would have alien English babies with him!

Ahem. I think a decent interval of time has passed for me to watch season 2 again.

She Saved The World, Alot

@Interrobanged Hahaha "decent interval of time"...I watched Season 1, then season 2, then season 1 again...then season 2 AGAIN (!!) all in a week and a half. Oh, and then possibly season 1 again, because I know I've seen it three times. To be fair, you do pick up on things the second (and third) time around that you might have missed.*

@Craftastrophies Agreed. It really is the perfect show.
*But also I just like his face.

She Saved The World, Alot

@Craftastrophies @miwome @pterodactgirl @interrobanged - I've just thought of another one: drink whenever Moriarty's voice jumps an octave mid-word

sceps yarx

@She Saved The World, Alot AAAAAAGH! Is this a Hairpin BBC Sherlock conversation! My dreams are coming true. I've spent the last year of my life trying desperately to NOT turn all my comments into a Sherlock threadjack. I am a total fiend for that show, and I could talk about it for hours and hours. But I think I'm only attracted to Benedict Cumberbatch when his hair is dyed black. The redhead and blonde versions don't really do it for me. Does anyone else feel that way? Or maybe I'm just attracted to high-functioning sociopaths.

She Saved The World, Alot

@sceps yarx Oh my god lady I feel you! I have actively trying to threadjack EVERYTHING to make it a Sherlock conversation but...I did it kind of half-heartedly? Because I remember when I was like 13 years old, people didn't respond well to me threadjacking actual meatspace conversations to talk about my then-obsession with Orlando Bloom (which now I'm like, psh, schmorlando schmoom.)

ANYWAY. I thought I only liked him as sherlock, but then I watched The Last Enemy, and I'm pretty partial to short and dirty blond Cumberbatch too. And I would be into him in To The Ends of the Eart if his character wasn't such a dumbass.

Sherlock is definitely the best Cumberbatch incarnation though.

Lemme know if you feel like joining @miwome and I for a Galentine's Sherlock Extravaganza! c dot tesoro 330 at gmail.com

@miwome...you're gonna kick my ass. I started Galentine's early with a friend of mine, and I'm already like 3 beers in...

sceps yarx

@She Saved The World, Alot Oh man, I really would have loved to do this with you guys, but my significant other drew the line at 5 Sherlock re-watches. And plus, I would have been SO DRUNK.

This is epically embarrassing for a woman my age to say, but would you like me to send you the playlist for my indie-rock BBC Sherlock Reichenbach-fall-themed fan mix? Arrrrrg, kill me now! I really do not usually get like this! I have a life. Really!

She Saved The World, Alot

@sceps yarx SEND IT TO MEEEEEEE!!! c dot tesoro 330 at gmail dot com.

BELIEVE ME I totally understand and I'm catching up with you! 4th Sherlock rewatch! Still waiting for my DVDs to be delivered, so my Netflix Recently Watched list is mortifying right now!

chapstick

I'll read whatever content is dished up, but maybe can we please get a more mobile friendly site? Maybe more about movies or books or tv shOws (old and new)...

fondue with cheddar

@chapstick Mobile friendly YES! I don't have usable Internet at home right now except for on my phone, and I always have to wait to reply to Friday comments until Monday when it's all old news. Because loading/commenting on my iPhone takes SO LONG.

mathlete

@chapstick YES! absolutely this.

Choire

@chapstick This is happening very soon! The new mobile site = delicious.

mczz

I heart the Hairpin so much!

I would love more original reporting and "the best time I..." stories! I love amazing stories and writing by amazing people! I'm also a huge fan of reading between the texts. Also love all the advice columns.

I'm sure I'm in the minority here, but I should say that I'm less of a fan of Beauty Q and How to be a Girl type pieces... blame it on the curmudgeonly feminism, or something.

Essentially, I read at work in my Google reader, and the things that appeal to me the most are big blocks of text without pictures that I have to hide from people walking behind me. Stupid desk placement. Which also means I can't watch or listen to all the videos and music posted. Sad times.

Also, god it pains me to say this, but as long as we're being honest, I will repeat my unhappiness with the current state of the financial advice column. Great idea with execution that doesn't live up to the excellent standards of the other advice columns.

But mostly you're kind of my favorite thing to read all the time right now so if you didn't change at all you'd still be amazing.

dj pomegranate

@mczz "Essentially, I read at work in my Google reader, and the things that appeal to me the most are big blocks of text without pictures that I have to hide from people walking behind me. Stupid desk placement. Which also means I can't watch or listen to all the videos and music posted. Sad times."

Agree. Solidarity.

fondue with cheddar

@mczz I'm not a fan of How to Be a Girl stuff either, because I'm not girly. BUT I do file them away in my brain for those few times when I do want to do girly things because I have no idea how. So I don't have to be the frumpiest gal at the wedding.

Craftastrophies

@jen325 Seconded (of course). They are not relevant to my core interests, but I am glad that they are there.

sox
sox

@Craftastrophies, jen325 I'm average girly, but less girly than lots of my friends and I cannot even tell you how exciting it was at my friends bachelorette party, which coincided with Halloween, to be the false eyelash applying expert! Seriously, those occasional times you use the tutorials it's amazingly gratifying. Plus when you're not ordinarily so decorated, people really notice.

Ellie

Fewer Awl posts. I know there aren't very many but I'd prefer to see none. I know I'm in the minority but I almost always find them incredibly annoying. That's my 2 cents.

Valley Girl

@Ellie I don't mind there being crossposts, but I don't like that there are separate comment systems. Especially when the articles are from Pinner favorites like Jolie, I'd like to be able to comment without having to register separately.

laurel

@Valley Girl Universal Awl-sites login would be handy. I bet it would help Splitsider and Wristcutter with traffic.

@Allie Can I ask why?

Jolie Kerr

@laurel That was the most sublimely bitchy comment and I love it and you in a way for which I have no words.

Fig. 1 (formerly myfanwy)

@laurel I am now viewing the word "Splitsider" in an entirely new (and not entirely comfortable) light.

Ellie

@laurel A little of it is the separate commenting system (sometimes I want to comment and say "I was annoyed by this") but also I just find the "house style" a little irritating. And even Gawkerlike at times.

laurel

@Jolie Kerr Please try to find the words. Please?

@Fig. 1 Srsly. I read it that way when they launched and I can't change it now.

@Ellie Fair enough!

Jolie Kerr

@Ellie Don't get me wrong, I love giving The Mothership a sound drubbing from time to time (sue me, I like laughing at Alex when he cries and it's funny when Choire storms around all angry-like), but you can't get mad at them for sounding "Gawkerlike" since, you know, they invented what you're thinking of when you think of Gawkerlike.

sockhop

more ask a pigeon!!!

Tina W

Two requests:
1. BRING BACK RELATIONSHAPES
2. What happened to fuck/marry/kill?

DrFeelGood

@Tina W RELATIONSHAPES. I don't care if everyone else hates them. They are my kryptonite.

Fig. 1 (formerly myfanwy)

@DrFeelGood You guys, stop talking about Relationshapes as if they're funny.

(they are)

miwome

Since somebody was agin em, I just wanted to pipe up and say that I am all about the music links/embeds. Always looking for new stuff, and y'all have cool taste. (Plus, you are quick off the mark, so I seem cool because I know the new Die Antwoord video is out right away. #piggybacking)

TN
TN

When I was creepily lurking around the open thread last week, I noticed a lot of 'pinners talking about some major life-changing things, like starting grad school to switch careers or moving to a completely new region of the country or a new country entirely. I often toy with these ideas, but I'm pretty chicken shit and would like to hear from someone who actually went through it. I'd like to hear how others have gone about these sort of life upheavals, which fears were confirmed, which weren't, how far in advance one can/should prepare for such things, etc. I want to read The Best Time I Voluntarily Turned My Life Upside Down and It Totally Worked Out, with multiple examples.

whizz_dumb

@TN I have one of those stories. I will write it and submit it. That's the best I can do.

dj pomegranate

@TN Love this idea. I'm thinking about what brings me to the HP every day, and I have concluded that it's the breadth of lady-experience that so many of the features highlight (Ask A..., The Best Time I..., Scandals of Classic Hollywood, and of course, the commenters who are all amazing...they all highlight some part of "the female experience" that I can relate to at LEAST a little bit, and often very much.) So, when I wonder, "What WOULD you have to do to be an abortion provider?!" or "Should I use coconut oil on my face instead of Cetaphil?!" I immediately (and correctly) suspect that the hairpin will know the answer! I think the internet-space here is friendly and perfect for this sort of feature.

So yeah. This!

miwome

@whizz_dumb I am about to have one of those stories, and would also happy write and submit it once it has occurred enough.

redheaded&crazy

I know this is not really possible but MORE NICOLE?!

Limaceous

@redheadedandcrazy Yes. I love Nicole and the Hairpin needs to steal Classic Trash from the Awl.

phlox

@redheadedandcrazy YES.

pterodactgirl

@Limaceous More Nicole!! Lazy Self-Indulgent Book Reviews was how I found the Hairpin! My gateway drug if you will. And I also wish that Classic Trash was here instead because I don't have an account on the Awl and can't comment. Boo hoo.

highjump

@redheadedandcrazy More lazy self-indulgent book reviews?

rucifie

@redheadedandcrazy I was coming down here to post exactly that! I pretty much lurved every Nicole post this summer. Put down that adorable baby and take care of ussss, Nicole.

charlesbois

More zazz!

charlesbois

@charlesbois seriously though, I wish there were a daily "what's in your purse" post. Like woman-on-the-street purses.

tea tray in the sky.

@charlesbois Right? I've started really paying attention to what I carry in my purse, because what if I write the wittiest comment in the history of The Hairpin and they want to ask me what's in MY handbag? I've got to be prepared!

A note: you guys are the funniest/wittiest around, I have no chance. But stiiiiiiiiiiill

Jolie Kerr

Here are some ideas I've kicked around, tell me if you dig:

(1) What's In Your Medicine Cabinet? (Basically "show us your bag" but for medicine cabinets)
(2) Getting To Know Your Lingerie (so like, an entire post on merry widows with history, pictures, places to buy, when to wear and so on... and then another one on tie-side knickers, and another on cone bras, etc etc etc etc)
(3) More cooking posts, but in a Hairpinnish way that is as-of-yet undefined. Maybe "The Perfect Meal to Cook When You [Blank]" in which blank is anything from "have a dude over for the first time" or "have invited the entire New York Media Bowling League over after the big tourney."

miwome

@Jolie Kerr All of those sound cool! I especially like the Medicine Cabinet one.

snuffleupagus

@Jolie Kerr How about "amazing meals that seem complicated and exotic and can be used to impress your boss/inlaws/coworkers/manfriends but are in reality totally doable?"

pterodactgirl

@snuffleupagus I've got a recipe for Caribbean souffle that just kills it with bosses/coworkers/manfriends. But I'd love to expand my repertoire.

Judith Slutler

@Jolie Kerr How about "Foods To Make On Your Barbecue" for summer?

Jolie Kerr

@snuffleupagus I feel like that's what I already write for The Awl though? But of course, there's no reason there couldn't be a dedicated, multi-contributor series on The HP along those lines. It could be called "Dumb Easy" or some such ("dumb easy" is the term I use for dishes like that - roast chicken, for example. Which I'm actually working on for The Mothership so stay tuned for that!)

Jolie Kerr

But also yes to the ethnic/exotic recipes, especially because I may be working on something along those lines with a very beloved contributor already!

apples and oranges

@Jolie Kerr I would love cooking posts, especially for single-serving recipes. Please. I cook for 1 and it's ok for my soul, but not always ok for the limited amount of tupperware I own.

snuffleupagus

@Jolie Kerr Oooh, good point. I usually don't read the awl because the comments aren't nearly as fun.

Rock and Roll Ken Doll

@Jolie Kerr
#1: All the percocet that will fit.

Killerpants

@Jolie Kerr LOVE the medicine cabinet idea!

sarahe

@Jolie Kerr I looooove "What's In Your Medicine Cabinet?" !!

What about recipes for whatever you have in your fridge, like "What to do with that shriveled up old onion, tarragon and fresh fish!"?

... anyone?

Judith Slutler

@sarahe Ooh, as a variation, what about "How to buy a week's worth of food without planning recipes in advance"? I'm pretty good at this, but not that good.

churlishgreen

@Jolie Kerr I love all of these, and PLEASE keep AACP coming!

Beericle

@Jolie Kerr I've been doing fun experimenting with fancy/unusual jello shots, and this summer was into alcoh-pops (popsicles with alcohol) So maybe a cooking fun with alcohol? Or, fancy desserts that aren't hard to make?

tin can phone

@Jolie Kerr ALL THREE ALL THREE

Maria

@Jolie Kerr Those all sound kind of wonderful.
Also, this weekend, spilled paint on hardwood floor, and was actually a little excited to 1. check old "ask a clean person" columns for how to fix this, and 2. write to you if it wasn't there yet. And then my boyfriend trotted off to the basement, returned with some chemical or another, and cleaned it off like it was nothing.
He can be such a killjoy sometimes.

Layla

@Jolie Kerr Jolie, please teach me all the things about lingerie!

Porn Peddler

@Jolie Kerr What I Cooked The Night I Decided I Was Going to Lose My Virginity To My Boyfriend.
What He Sang In My Face A Week Earlier That Sealed the Deal.

hedgehog

@Jolie Kerr Also the appropriate drink to order in every situation. Millions of years ago I had this blind/internet date and I was drinking a cosmo, which I realize dates me, shut up, and I saw the guy meeting the clothes description come into the bar, and INSTANTLY emergency rush rush I gave back the cosmo and ordered a martini. The semiotics of that are important. Also, what do you drink with the client, at brunch with your mom, with friends you don't 100% trust, etc.

Layla

I want to read about everyone's awkward moments. Work, family, dates--dates with your boss's family members. I don't care. Like the teen magazines have, except for grown-ups, and not necessarily exclusively about periods.

nicolarz

@Layla I love those as well, that's a great idea.

Maria

@Layla this.

angelinha

@Layla And I was wearing WHITE PANTS! And then my swimsuit came off at the BEACH!

Craftastrophies

@klibberfish And my Crush was there and he laughed.

nyikint

So basically, the theme of this comment thread has been MOARRRR!

chapstick

@chapstick Orrrrr maybe something totally crazy and Internet/tech savvy like 'how to make an animated gif'.

Also, collapsable comment threads!! Like there's a button that just makes that thread shrink after I'm done reading it or whatever. Like how the av club works.

Idk just throwing ideas and typos out... ( literally sitting on a plane waiting for people to cram themselves/their luggage into itty bitty spaces)

pterodactgirl

@chapstick I would love to know how to make an animated gif. I want to be considered cool on tumblr, dammit.

miwome

@chapstick Yes! Yes yes yes! HTML education and similar would be incredible.

Feminist Killjoy

@chapstick How-To techy stuff is an AMAZING idea! I feel like I could write one?

EpWs

I realize that this isn't quite what you're looking for, but Hairpin forums would be the best things ever.

OwlOfDerision

@The Everpresent Wordsnatcher Yes yes yes. Like Friday's Open Thread, but every day.

DianaPrince

@The Everpresent Wordsnatcher: Thirded!

Craftastrophies

@The Everpresent Wordsnatcher Yes. But only if it doesn't suck all the commenty goodness away from the actual site. Rule of article specific comments must be on site, but forum is all open thread all the time?

EpWs

@Craftastrophies Yes, exactly. I just hijacked this thing down at the bottom of the thread because I need some off-topic advice--messageboard would be good for this sort of thing. Article-specific comments (and all the crazy that goes on/spawns off of them) would go with the article!

Craftastrophies

@The Everpresent Wordsnatcher Right. I just think there need to be clear rules about it, because I don't want the pin itself to change.

But I also love the people here and I want to be able to have community without hijacking (see: where do I post when I hear about my job). And the Friday threads are not great for me because they're actually in the middle of my Saturday, and I'm not usually at a computer. And then I feel weird going back, and no one is reading it.

feline

@The Everpresent Wordsnatcher YES, THIS WOULD BE THE BEST DECISION EVER.

Diana

@The Everpresent Wordsnatcher

I feel like every time one of my favorite websites has tried this, it's contributed to that site's downfall in the end. :/ It usually ends up sucking away all the best conversations which are half-off-topic anyway, and then people who don't frequent both places won't understand jokes in the proper comment area, and it just turns into a big clique-y mess.

Craftastrophies

@Diana This is what I'm scared of.

Could we maybe also have a Sunday open thread? It could auto-post, and it would mean I had something to read/post on my Monday.

ELECTROMAGNETIC CHAOS

@Diana: This is what happens. Two tiers of users.

EpWs

@Diana I'm also afraid of this. I mostly just want the comments to be a little more workable for long-term conversations (I want to know about Craftastrophies' job interview!) and off-topic such and such. But I do NOT want things to turn into a two-tiered clique-y mess, and would much rather just work with what we've got rather than run the risk of that happening.

I'm loving the Sunday open thread idea.

atipofthehat

And what about "The Dude" and "The Queer Chick" dating series, already proposed?

leonstj

@atipofthehat - Oh wow, I did not see this thread before. I'm flattered!

Hairpin ladies are pretty excellent. I just never really like, actively kick it here or at 'pinups cuz I feel like it would be weird to comment a bunch on a Lady-targeted thing and then try to turn that into getting digits.

Like, Hairpin ladies are _exactly_ the kind I dig. I would feel weird about being a center of attention though. And also I would feel really self-conscious, because the only thing I am worse at than getting rejected is doing rejecting.

Basically, my goal is for everyone to like me, but no more than they also like everyone else.

EpWs

@atipofthehat I missed this thread the first time too! (Shame on me for skipping a Bachelor post just because I don't watch the show, boooo.) And I wholeheartedly support this idea. I feel like the Hairpin will not have fulfilled its potential until we have a 'Pin hookup/dateup/marriageup.

atipofthehat

@The Everpresent Wordsnatcher

Followed by pinfants as appropriate!

snuffleupagus

I would love a series on "how to be an adult." Like, what's the process in buying a house? What should I know? What are some secrets? Also in this series:
- how to buy a car without the car guys cheating you because you're a woman
- how to get your car fixed without the aforementioned BS
- how to quit a job gracefully
- how to do social media as a grownup
- how to know when you're ready to get married/have children/buy a house

The Lady of Shalott

@snuffleupagus I really like this idea. Stuff like "how to choose a therapist?" and "how to bring up a complex emotional topic like end of life discussions with your parents?" and like, "how to be a graceful woman in a youth-oriented profession without looking like you think you're still 20" and stuff.

likethestore

@snuffleupagus This is an amazing idea, since I find being a grown-up very strange and confusing. How about what are taxes exactly and how to do them so you don't spend the rest of your life getting your dad to do your taxes?

miwome

@snuffleupagus This is genius and I need it in my life, like, yesterday.

snuffleupagus

@The Lady of Shalott Love all these ideas! I still can't talk to my parents about, you know, stuff.

Quinn A@twitter

@snuffleupagus Ugh. As much as I hate to say it, I'm pretty sure you actually can't buy a car without the car guys cheating you because you're a woman. Bring a man with you. I had to replace a car within a year of buying it, and when I told them "look, this is what you gave me when I came in with my father 8 months ago. I want the exact same thing this time", they flat-out refused and charged me an extra $2000. I argued, but the guy kept insisting he couldn't give me that deal again. It's been almost a year and I still get pissed off about that on a weekly basis.

Killerpants

@snuffleupagus This is the best idea I've seen yet. I want to read all of those, and many more as well.

Changeling

@snuffleupagus
-how to change the oil in your car

Basically I want to fix all the things. The washer, the car, the plumbing. The hole in the wall.

EpWs

@snuffleupagus YES. Perfect, all of it. Also "How to dress for work when you've been in grad school forEVER and don't own anything but jeans, Good God, Lemon."

DrFeelGood

@Quinn A@twitter Ugh. This is the reason I hate going into Home Depot/any home improvement store. Just cause I have ovaries, doesn't mean I can't re-wire a lamp! They always just shove the first thing they find at you when you ask a question, then they get all "pissy" when I start saying, um I don't think this is what I'm actually looking for. It's like you are a dumb idiot that needs to be dealt with as quickly as possible so they can move onto a real customer - a man.

snuffleupagus

@Changeling And knowing when you can do it yourself and when to call someone?

MilesofMountains

@snuffleupagus As someone who just muddled through buying a used car, this would have been fabulous. I spend so much of the time I'm doing "grown up" things just trying to figure out what's going on.

Changeling

@snuffleupagus
Yeah that's a good distinction. "Can I do this? Maybe. Should I? Probably not."

no way

@Changeling I was about to type the same thing - how to change you headlight, how to install a dimmer switch, how to upgrade your computer hardware.

These tutorials are available online, but many are geared toward dudes. I don't want to be pandered to, but for instance when trying to replace my headlight I couldn't release the plug. A tutorial that said, 'This is going to be tough. Maybe get a screw driver for leverage and prop it like this' would have been helpful.

remargaret

@Quinn A@twitter Walk right out! Most American places you can buy a car from are on a "motor mile," which means there is roughly a MILE of em-effers peddling the same damn thing. If dude standing in front of you won't work with you, leave, and find somewhere that will. Then use the "walked out over a $2k discrepancy" story in the next car place you go to.

redheaded&crazy

@Quinn A@twitter I was also SUPER concerned with this. I went with my dad to all the dealerships, but I also would not buy from the ones where they talked to him rather than me. Which was, like all of them. And the one time I went with just my mom, ugh the dude was such a condescending prick. "Uh, no, nowhere is doing 0% financing." Do you think I'm an idiot because yours is the last dealership I've been to and everybody else has offered me something better.

I just know he was itching to call me "little lady." Just like I was itching to slug him in the fa-- never mind.

Quinn A@twitter

@redheadedandcrazy Oh, God, yes. When I was looking to buy a house, this one male real estate agent would only speak to my father. Even when Dad said "hey, she's the one spending the money. I'm not contributing financially at all. Talk to her, not to me", he kept talking to my father. Even if I'd liked the house, I wouldn't have given that guy the commission.

(My dad didn't come with me when I bought the house I live in now, but thankfully my [female] real estate agents were awesome and my house is perfect)

ELECTROMAGNETIC CHAOS

@Quinn A@twitter: It's possible that there were incentives from the factory at the time you got the car the first time around; if the incentives were gone by then, the dealership would not have been able to make the same deal (incentives are basically cash that factories give to dealers to sell their cars, giving dealers more room to negotiate price since some of the profit is now 'baked in'.)

Quinn A@twitter

@Too Much Internet Possibly, but I also noticed a greater willingness to negotiate with my father. With me, he was just like "nope. Can't do it"; with my father he said "I can't do X, but I can probably do Y. Give me a minute to check". When I asked him what he could do for me, he said "nothing. This is the price; you can take it or leave it."

ELECTROMAGNETIC CHAOS

@Quinn A@twitter: Hrm. Yeah. Most car salesman are just... not good. Being a car salseman is one of those 'no one wants it' kind of jobs.

The two best salespeople you can encounter are 1) the really new guy who will totally botch the deal and end up giving you a great price and 2) the really old guy who is retired but bored and nice, so he actually could be out to help folks get a good deal.

Craftastrophies

@DrFeelGood I found that shaving all my hair off really helped with this. That's probably not a route everyone wants to go, though.

Fig. 1 (formerly myfanwy)

@Craftastrophies "The Best Time I Shaved My Hair Off and Salespeople Took Me Seriously"

inkysmudge

@snuffleupagus HOW TO NOT GET RIPPED OFF ALL THE DAMN TIME. How to not let your politeness get in the way of success. How to become Kate Beaton's version of an 80's business woman but only when necessary and never (mostly never) for evil.

AniaGosia

@The Everpresent Wordsnatcher Oops, I accidentally deleted: Did you ever read Academichic when they were doing it? It was Great.

EpWs

@AniaGosia Nooooo I have not heard of this, tell me more?

AniaGosia

@The Everpresent Wordsnatcher It was such a good fashion blog written by ladies in academia. You can still read it here

franceschances

More money/personal finance stuff! Like, how do you figure out if grad school is worth it financially? Uh oh, I don't have any credit, what do I do? What's the best way to set up savings for my adorbs nephews?

Tuna Surprise

@franceschances
Now I have to go home and dig out all my old papers. I did a final paper for my 'Practical Applications of Calculus' class on whether law school was a financially sound decision. It has charts! 8 years after law school graduation things have more or less followed the charts.

highjump

@franceschances Yes the financial advice column was such a good concept and the person who did it just did not have enough background.

@franceschances YES! And for all places in life, including "I'm a poor grad student and ACK!" or even "How I fucked up and got my shit back together," or "Surviving the Recession."

DrFeelGood

@highjump Yes to more financial advice, no to the person who did it (sorry, whoever you are!). It just did not seem at all well researched or thought out.

@DrFeelGood And not really accessible. I read some of that stuff and was both confused and intimidated because... yeah. Please make financial stuff easier to read, easy to understand (not because we are ladies, but because this is new material for many people), and maybe give a "what this is/why you should care/when this applies" guide.

EpWs

@franceschances "Do I really need a credit card? The guy at the bank said I would never be able to buy a house if I didn't get one but I don't trust him because he's the guy at the bank and credit cards scare me and I always pay my bills on time and I want to buy a house someday HELP"?

rucifie

@The Everpresent Wordsnatcher Hell to the yes. I'm always torn about my lack-of-credit-cardness.

redheaded&crazy

@The Everpresent Wordsnatcher I think I can answer this one (I am not a CPA or Suze Orman though). The answer is pretty much, yes you kind of need a credit card. I'm sure there are a lot of schools of thought that you don't need one, but the longer you go without one the harder it is to get, and not having a credit card can be limiting for various things, for example travel and of course, improving your credit score for buying a house/car/whatever/big purchase.

(okay I realize I say "of course" like "oh of course everybody knows this" which I'm really just saying to smooth over the details of not knowing why exactly. I think the more diversified your credit is and the more ways you can prove that you can pay things off timely, the better)

I try to use my credit card as little as possible, and I always pay it off in full. I hate having one, I hate the reasons for "needing" to have one, and I hate using it. But it is a somewhat necessary evil, and it really is way easier to get when you are younger (as backwards as that is).

highjump

@The Everpresent Wordsnatcher You don't really need a credit card. You really need credit history to establish a good credit score which represents your credit worthiness when you need a whole bunch of credit for a thing like a house. Getting a credit card is one of the easier ways to establish credit but a car loan or student loans (esp. once you have your parents removed from the note) can also do the trick. Utilities or phone bills do not usually work because they only report you to credit agencies when you are delinquent.

redheaded&crazy

@redheadedandcrazy somehow i just feel like this comment doesn't really belong here. BUT I have a friend who just went through the trials and tribulations of trying to get a credit card at the ripe old age of 25. and had a hard time with it. ???????? wtf banks. wtf.

EpWs

@redheadedandcrazy WTF BANKS? I AM ONLY 23 AND NOW MY CREDITOLOGICAL CLOCK IS TICKING.

highjump

@The Everpresent Wordsnatcher Worst case scenario, you can get a secured card, which is like giving a loan to yourself to prove you can make payments on time. Check out this Simple Dollar post: http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2012/01/12/reader-mailbag-sickness-and-timing/#111212

Craftastrophies

@highjump And how do you do that thing where your bank account is actually your mortgage (mortgage offset?) and is it always a good idea? I am trying to read the advice from my bank which is usually pretty good, but my eyes keep glazing over in panic. Halp!

highjump

@Craftastrophies I don't believe that is available in the US, or not widely available (according the Google) so I'm afraid I don't know much about it. What I read in 10 minutes of internet research makes it sounds like a tax free, high interest emergency fund basically, which sounds like a good thing. If this option were available to me and I actually had the ideal of 6-12months of bare minimum expenses in savings (lol, student loans) I would chose to keep it in a mortgage offset instead of a money market account or CDs because the interest rate is higher and it is still pretty liquid. But I have no idea how you could do it at your specific bank, sorry.

Craftastrophies

@highjump I've just worked out that, at least at my bank, it doesn't do anything until you've got $500 in it. Which I never have in my regular account. I know some people who put their pay in that, use their credit card for everything, then pay off the card with their offset account. But I don't have a cc.

But I'll file that in 'things to think about once I get a bit of a buffer'. Also known as, maybe never.

raised amongst catalogs

@redheadedandcrazy Because I have basically NO credit history except for one car loan that I paid off on-time, I can't even get a $600 line of credit at Pier 1 when I want to buy a couch and get a discount for opening a credit card. And I'll be 35 this year. I HAD THE CASH! I JUST WANTED THE DISCOUNT!

spinstah

@franceschances Yes, more financial advice. Including perhaps things like "WTF is a money market account and why should I care" or "how to save money for the house you aren't sure you even want to buy" or "how not to feel horribly depressed when reminded of the amount of your student loan debt, even though you are in repayment."

EpWs

@Alison@twitter Are you me? I FEEL LIKE YOU ARE ME.

redheaded&crazy

@The Everpresent Wordsnatcher man I didn't want to stress anybody out about credit. highjump makes very good points about how credit cards are not the be all and end all of the universe.

I just think, having a card with a $500 limit will be easier to do early on, allows you to dip your toes in the water without racking up insane interest, and will make it easier to get one with a higher limit down the line in your life, for when you want to spend wild amounts of money that you can't afford at the time! :D

paying interest is possibly one of my biggest pet peeves in the world. I don't even like paying interest on my measly credit card, when I think about the millions and billions of dollars governments waste in paying interest it makes me see red.

Craftastrophies

@redheadedandcrazy I have paid almost $9k of interest off of my mortgage this financial year. And about $1k of actual mortgage. I looked at that this morning and I wanted to cry. Last year was $12k for the whole financial year.

EpWs

@Craftastrophies BRB, off never buying a house. (True story: at 23, I am no longer batting an eye when people go off and get married and shit, but if they buy a house together I'm mentally going "Whoa, nelly, that is ADULT. Are you sure you're ready for this, because that is, like, a serious monetary commitment, yo.")

Craftastrophies

@The Everpresent Wordsnatcher The day I signed the papers, I was walking around work in a haze of 'uuum, why would they let me have a house? I am not GROWN UP enough!' And then one of my workmates came up with a wheely dolly thing and was like 'hey, will you push me on this?' So we pushed each other around our office until my boss, to whom I had been making the previous statement, came in, saw us, shook her head sadly, and left.

To be fair, that's probably about the same amount I would have paid on rent? And I get to paint the walls and have chickens and not have inspections. But still. It is painful.

More longer, AWL-style posts, less "here's a link to a thing doing a thing with a picture and 3 sentences." Some are fine, but when a dull morning in the library's Hairpin reading involves me muttering "okay, a link to wooly mammoths, a link to ... music?, okay, another link to something else," there doesn't seem like a good balance. I'd like to read something meaty and substantive in the morning!

I like the "Ask A ____" and "Best time I ____" posts. I love the advice letters, even though most have been about ladies and their dudes. I always wonder why Queer Chick doesn't answer some of those -- does Queer Chick only answer Queer Chicklet questions?

More politics. More international politics. More books. More makeup tutorials.

And a big request... more fashion for women who are not super skinny. I often feel like the Friday Allowance posts and other fashion posts are geared toward slim women. As a curvy, short, athletic chick with a big ass, wide calves, and weird upper arms, I often look at the fashion suggestions and think "um sure... skinny jeans and knee-high boots. Great." Women's sites often seem really polarized on this issue -- either it's fashion advice geared toward the size 2-6 crowd, or "fashion for fat ladies! plus sizes yay!" It leaves out a big group of women. The Hairpin is different and awesome and fabulous! A post that hit the nail on the head in an awesome way: Dress Yourself in Pencil Skirts and Lingerie.

itmakesmewonder

@S. Elizabeth YES, good, yes. I think having a different lady offer fashion or beauty advice sometimes would be Really Great, not because Jane isn't great, but because her point of view is pretty focused and niche and I could use another perspective.

mush

@S. Elizabeth Seconding the request for longer posts as opposed to shorter-style posts with a link!

likethestore

@S. Elizabeth Your last point, YES. It seems to me like the clothes/makeup articles are always about what would look good on Jane Marie and no one else.

@likethestore YES! And as gorgeous and beautiful as Jane Marie is, sometimes I feel like she sort of lacks an understanding of what it's like to shop as someone who is not slim. And this is different than "shopping as a plus- sized lady!" I mean, how to shop as someone with an ass, or someone whose size ranges from an 8-12 depending on how much the store cuts for hips, or how to dress for winter when not one of those cute pairs of boots fits over your well-muscled, buff calves.

Also, how to go to the gym. Can we have a "how to go to the gym" post??? Or series?

likethestore

@S. Elizabeth "Trying To Find a Pair of Tall Boots To Fit Over My Enormous Calves" is the title of my autobiography.

dotcommie

@S. Elizabeth yes! i overcame a debilitating fear of the weight room and am now apply sluggin' iron, but i bet many other ladies are in need of guidance.

Changeling

@S. Elizabeth
YES how to go to the gym. I can use most of the machines, but which ones should I use? Should I use different ones every day? Drink water all the time vs. drink water at the end? Pour water towards my mouth and miss?

DrFeelGood

@dotcommie High five! I have been going to the same gym for 5 years and only in the last month have I ventured into the weight room - even though I know how to lift, it was so intimidating for some dumb reason in my brain.

Lorelei@twitter

@S. Elizabeth I think we are very similarly shaped, if by "weird upper arms" you mean "too much triceps for most sweaters." I never realized how freakish my calves apparently are until I tried to expand my fashion repertoire to include skinny jeans and non-snow boots.

so yes, I would also like to see fashion advice from people with a variety of body shapes. And it really doesn't have to be "here's the best way to disguise your deviation from acceptable beauty standards" type advice, either. I'm wearing mid-calf boots over jeggings today, I'm ready to embrace my stumpiness. But so many clothes just do not fit the way they are supposed to on my body, like the "straight leg" khakis I just ordered that turned out remarkably jodhpur-y in person, and most wide-calf boot brands don't really fit my style. Getting recommendations from people who deal with issues like these regularly would be so helpful.

dotcommie

@Lorelei@twitter i have wide calves (17in, while most tall boots max out at 14in circumference if you don't buy specifically wide-calf boots) and my solution is buying the boots i like and taking em to the cobbler. they can usually stretch them 2-3 inches for around $50.

celacia

@Lorelei@twitter "so yes, I would also like to see fashion advice from people with a variety of body shapes. And it really doesn't have to be "here's the best way to disguise your deviation from acceptable beauty standards" type advice, either."

I would _love_ this so much. I don't care about hiding my flaws so much as I would like to just look good, and that's not really something that I have the skills to achieve in regards to buying clothes.

PistolPackinMama

@S. Elizabeth Hopefully, in March, I will be the kind of person who could write The Best Time I Did The C2K Program And Then Ran A Race. And I have a fantasy of being a person who could write The Best First Time I Ran A Half Marathon.

And the thing is... I will have needed some non-judgey help in learning how to do that. The kind of help you would get from a Hairpin person who knows things about fitness and will share them with enthusiasm and not talk about losing jeans sizes.

Ask a Fitness Person would be fab.

Tropical Iceland

@S. Elizabeth "How to make yourself go to the gym when the couch is SO COMFORTABLE and it's Cold Out There."

femme cassidy

@S. Elizabeth Yo, I will answer any questions folks send me! If you want A Queer Chick's thoughts on what sex toy you should buy, or what vegetarian recipe you should make for dinner, or what clothes will look good on a curvy chick with a big ass (answer: everything, or even better, nothing), holleratchagirl.

angelan

@S. Elizabeth Do they have Duo Boots where you are from?

http://www.duoboots.com/

Pretty expensive, but they measure your calves and give you boots to fit.

cactus flower

@S. Elizabeth Yes, I would really like some fashion tutorials about getting proportions right for women with different body types. I'm also short w/ a small waist but boobs and huge hips/butt. I can't use Jane's fashion advice cause long & drapey doesn't work for me. Even the pencil skirt advice was a bit off. I wear a size 2 or 4 because I'm so short but with my proportions a pencil skirt accentuated my ass/hips in a Joan Holloway kind of way...which is sexy on Mad Men/at a halloween party, but made me feel really self-conscious for a job interview.

Lorelei@twitter

@dotcommie ah, I didn't know boot shafts could be stretched, thanks! My understanding is that shoe-stretching requires buying genuine leather? I could technically afford such things, but I'm only beginning to get used to a lifestyle that is not constrained by a graduate student stipend, and my sense of what constitutes a reasonable clothing budget hasn't expanded much beyond "on sale at Target." Can man-made boots be stretched?

@celacia, yeah, I think the key is how the fashion advice defines "looking good." For a mainstream fashion mag it's always about trying to create the illusion of an ideal silhouette. And I want to look good too, but I don't mean physically attractive (and there's just no way I'm going to look like anything but a short person with a big butt and stocky limbs) so much as creating intentional, interesting outfits. I'm not nearly as good at that as I would like!

cactus flower

@two_of_hearts I also get angry because folks like Christina Hendricks/Nicki Minaj who accentuate their hips/butts in pop culture are glorified, but, if you see a girl who looks like that on the street, I think many people read it as "trashy" or "too tight". Am I alone here? *deep breath* sry I have a lot of curvy-clothes angst

Craftastrophies

@two_of_hearts Yes. And a slimmer woman can wear a jersey, drapey top to work. If I do that I look like I just rolled out of bed.

The thing for me is partly about different sizes/shapes, but also about style. The Friday allowance threads have nice things, but even if I fit into them I would never buy them. Which is fine, I really like seeing what other people like, it makes me try new things. But I would also like to see what other, different people like, sometimes.

@femme cassidy can we email you specifically? Or just put 'Ask a Queer Chick' in the subject, etc. I would actually really like to see some non-sex advice from our advisors. Or maybe even one question, sent to a Lady, a Dude and a Queer Chick, and your separate answers published?

femme cassidy

@Craftastrophies Just put "Ask A Queer Chick" in the subject line. I like the idea of having some kind of a round-table on one subject, too!

Diana

@PistolPackinMama

Hmm, maybe I could do something like that fitness column. I did Cto5K a few times and have successfully transitioned from lazy bum to relatively fit person (and vice versa UGH) a few times, and I spend a lot of time in reddit's /fitness forums and have Gary Taubes on my bookcase begging to be talked about.

suzabellajones

@itmakesmewonder Yeah I would love some other fashion perspectives besides Jane's high femme thing.

@femme cassidy "...or what clothes will look good on a curvy chick with a big ass (answer: everything, or even better, nothing), holleratchagirl."

Hollerback.

-fellow queer femme

@Craftastrophies YES TO THIS. I can't do a lot of draped jersey because I don't have super hard abs, and I have boobs, and my body is ... soft? So any bit of clinginess just makes the weird parts reeeeeally noticeable. Which is a shame because they look so comfy.

I wish some of the fashion could be less Jane Marie draped/trendy and more classic. Like really, please, I need some posts about how to look fucking awesome in a simple shift dress by adding all of the weird vintage silk scarves my mom gave me when she cleaned out her closet. Because I just don't wear things like sequin-covered tshirts and draped tunics... and I look at the bargain bin some days and think "am I just totally not getting this whole dressing like a grown-up thing?"

There are awesome things you can do with fashion -- dress up your shift dress with vintage scarves. Play with jewelry proportion, or with overdoing it with "classic" accessories ON PURPOSE (because who the fuck cares if you're not going into the office). Buy a pencil skirt from Talbots and make it look sexy (done and DONE, I could pwn that tutorial).

@femme cassidy I wish "Ask a Queer Chick" could answer some of the straight lady man questions because generally, Queer Chick gives good advice -- sensitive, well-informed, supportive advice that seems much more direct than the sometimes bullshit answers that A Dude (or a bowl of hummus) gives.

"Find the problem, isolate the problem, set the problem up with a lesbian." Jack Donaghy can't be wrong, can he?

rora

@S. Elizabeth yessssssss. "how to go to the gym" slash "how to be a healthy person" would be great.

femme cassidy

@S. Elizabeth Well NOW I'm just upset that we don't have an "Ask a Jack Donaghy." (but also thank you for the compliment! ({<3})!)

Jane Marie

@S. Elizabeth sequin t-shirts!? i never.

OwlOfDerision

I'm writing a PhD thesis on 18th century cartoons. There are enormous wigs, transvestites, drunk monkeys, gallons of gin, and other awesome things that I get to study.

WHO WANTS TO KNOW MORE ABOUT GIN-DRINKING, WIG-WEARING DRUNK TRANSVESTITE MONKEYS FROM THE 18TH CENTURY?

Tuna Surprise

@OwlOfDerision I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

C_Webb

@OwlOfDerision **jumps up to scream "I DO!!!," falls down, hurts self**

OwlOfDerision

@Tuna Surprise It's only available on parchment, that OK?

miwome

@OwlOfDerision ME ME ME ME ME!

atipofthehat

@OwlOfDerision

You'd better be tellin' the truth.

EpWs

@OwlOfDerision ME TOO ME TOO!

OwlOfDerision

@atipofthehat I WON'T LET YOU DOWN.

Oh, squiggles

Um...just more I guess? Like in general? More? Yeah.

Valley Girl

This is less a suggestion than my own orthodontic dorky approval seeking moment, but do I comment with images too often? I love a good reaction.GIF but I dunno if people find them inane or annoying...For some reason they seem to come across as very ~Jezebel~ which we all know is a fraught prospect. I mean, you wouldn't have started letting us embed 'em if you didn't want us to do it, right? Right?

Marquise de Morville

@Valley Girl I do get annoyed by gifs or images mainly because I like reading text and do not want to have to scroll further when someone embeds a large picture to read the next comment. Also, if I read at work it looks more "professional" if there's only text on the screen... If you feel like posting images, go ahead, I am sure there will be others who'll appreciate. But may I recommend using a hyperlink to an external page so the image appears only for whoever is interested enough to click? Sadly, I don't know how to do that, so I am all in favor of "Ask an HTML Person" columns.

atipofthehat

@Valley Girl

IMO, it's all right when you do it.

miwome

@Valley Girl I like the variety! And sometimes images convey something funny that text just can't make happen the same way.

automaticdoor

@Valley Girl Just nothing that flashes rapidly, as it is a SRS BSNS migraine trigger for me, plzkthx? ♥

Noelle O'Donnell

Personal favorites are "The Best Time I..." and Scandals of Old Hollywood pieces. Love the advice columns and the girly tutorials, Friday Bargain Bins but also would enjoy more historical pieces like what if someone wrote about the badass Russian female pilots during WWII that had the crappiest planes and would have to restart them in the middle of a flight or little-known LGBTQ history.

Also, maybe this is a lot of work but would it be possible to post a blurb about 'Pin meetups if we submit the info ourselves? I think sometimes people miss the threads on the Google group and it would help remind everyone or give a heads up to newcomers.

highjump

@Noelle O'Donnell I love those Russian lady pilots!

fondue with cheddar

@Noelle O'Donnell Maybe a little sidebar box that lists a few upcoming 'Pinups?

Craftastrophies

@Noelle O'Donnell The Night Witches! They scare/thrill me.

Lily Rowan

@Noelle O'Donnell There used to be posts about the Pinups, but it got to be Too Much, so now we just have to do it ourselves.

DenimGlow

This isn't specific to a new column, but it would be great if all of the Ask a Clean Person or HTBAG columns had a dedicated area that was really searchable. I think SmittenKitchen does a really awesome job of this. Sometimes you want to find the jizzcliner article really, really easily.

Jolie Kerr

AaCP has an archive post that I keep updated. Sorta. Okay you caught me I forgot to update it in January will go do that now and then will head to my room without supper.

Anyway. It is here.

DenimGlow

@Jolie Kerr the MOTHERLOAD!!!!

Thanks :)

fondue with cheddar

@Jolie Kerr I didn't realize you'd updated it. Thanks for that! A link to that page somewhere that's easy to find in the future would be fantastic! I know it's a lot of work to put together and keep updated, but something like that for Ask a Handy Femme, beauty stuff, and perhaps even A Dude/Lady/Queer Chick columns would be great, too.

Jolie Kerr

@jen325 There's a link to that archive in my byline on each week's AaCP!

fondue with cheddar

@Jolie Kerr Yay! I never noticed. Thanks for that!

DrFeelGood

Please bring back David Rees in any manner, and more Doll News! Also love the history posts - could be expanded from the current starlet expose type stories to other interesting historical figures.

Tropical Iceland

More articles from non-writers with interesting, different, or unsung professions! I read a lot of blogs and magazines and come across the same stories and points of view over and over from writers or aspiring writers and I would just love to hear from some different types. I can't exactly relate to all these people who went to grad school and live in New York. I bet we've got some awesome people here with interesting stories to tell! And hey, if anybody wants to know what it's like to be an under-qualified 21 year old pastry chef in Atlanta, I love talking about myself.

dj pomegranate

@Tropical Iceland I want to know how you become/are/be a pastry chef. It is my secret "Maybe one day I'll just quit everything and..." Except that I don't know anything about pastry, but you do so you should tell us!

New Commenter Name

@Tropical Iceland Re: what it's like to be an under-qualified 21 year old pastry chef in Atlanta. Yes. Please.

sockhop

@Tropical Iceland I'd like to read about that, and not just because I live in Atlanta!

t-square

@sockhop seconding that, but partly because I do live in Atlanta. If I ever need to cater a party I would give unfair preference in hiring a pastry chef to a Hairpinner.

arizonatime

This is administrative, but I've noticed that the Hairpin is one of the only websites that doesn't automatically direct links to a new tab/window. If you could change this on the back-end (or just moving forward, I know it's a pretty easy HTML fix and might be even easier if you're using a robust CMS), it would "force" users to stay on the site and keep browsing. Especially for newcomers this is a good way to encourage an increase in the average time spent on site statistic for your advertisers.

(and I'm sorry if someone already mentioned it [I didn't take the time to read all the comments...])

arizonatime

Also...just more about Downton Abbey. Thanks.

Tropical Iceland

@arizonatime I disagree. Sites that always open up new windows annoy me and make it to keep track of what's on the screen, which is usually how I end up with facebook open in three separate windows on accident.

Killerpants

@arizonatime Yes on the changing links to open in a new tab! It drives me nuts and I've always wondered why it's done that way here.

arizonatime

@Tropical Iceland it's mostly a business decision - I've seen it boost readership statistics by double digit percentages at other companies. However you do make an excellent point about the potential annoyance of it.

fondue with cheddar

@arizonatime I find it annoying when sites open in a new window when I don't ask them to. Your browser should have a key command for opening links in a new tab. I use it all the time. On my computer (Google Chrome on a Mac) it's command-click.

arizonatime

@jen325 again, i'm aware of this...just trying to help the hairpin monetize so it never disappears :)

fondue with cheddar

@arizonatime If The Hairpin were ever in danger of disappearing, I'm pretty sure that we would move mountains in order to keep it alive. Just give us advance warning!

Tits McGee

@arizonatime I almost didn't read through all the comments before adding my two cents ... I would really like to see links open in a new tab. (Firefox user checkin' in.) I believe that links should open in a new window so you're not sending readers away from your site. (i.e., they forget about you.) Obviously for readers it's a personal preference so I understand those who prefer the same window, but for me it's super annoying because even with a relatively speedy computer and web access it still takes forever to get the Hairpin page back to where it was before I got sidetracked looking at Robyn gifs or whatever.

mush

Book reviews, financial advice, more "How to be a Girl," politics, career advice.

DrFeelGood

@mush Book reviews, yes! Book club?...

arizonatime

@DrFeelGood A HAIRPIN BOOK CLUB WHY HAS THIS NOT BEEN DONE ALREADY!?!?!

EpWs

@arizonatime There have been SO MANY CALLS for Hairpin YA-novel-of-the-month club but I'd take a book club in any form. At all.

miwome

@The Everpresent Wordsnatcher Seconding YA, which I already brought up elsewhere, but whatever. YA! YA! Wyyyyyyy-Ayyyyyyyy!

EpWs

@miwome Aaahhh! I didn't see it before! I am jumping all around this thread right now.

miwome

@The Everpresent Wordsnatcher Didn't mean to say you should ONLY be in volved with MY YA post, or something! I just meant, the more support I can provide for this idea, the better!

tee
tee

@mush BOOK CLUB!!!

sceps yarx

@miwome Yes, YA. I am in! Grown-up books are for chumps!

boyofdestiny

More Clean Person. And not just "Ask A Clean Person." I mean like, "A Clean Person's Adventures in Cleanliness." Get Shankman on the phone to set up a series of Mr. Rogers-esque tours of various cleanly locations: the Clorox factory, a baking soda mine, a nanofabrication clean room, that sort of thing.

atipofthehat

@boyofdestiny

Can we all come if we wear clean-room suits?

Jolie Kerr

@boyofdestiny This is, no joke, an idea that we're spending some serious time thinking/talking/alskfhlkshf-ing about. It's not something that can/will happen in the next six months, but it's definitely exactly the direction I'm thinking of in terms of the future of AaCP (Q&A will always be a part of it, don't worry!) I've mentioned this before, but instructional videos are also on my radar, and, on a more micro-level, in the next few months I'm planning to do posts similar to the bedroom organization piece on bathrooms and kitchens.

boyofdestiny

@Jolie Kerr Good news!

AniaGosia

@Jolie Kerr Yes! I need to organize my kitchen so badly ... AaCP housecalls? Michigan is lovely ...

atipofthehat

@Jolie Kerr

This is great!

barbara millicent roberts

My favorite thing about the Hairpin is the silliness. More silliness! But I also like the serious. This is the best website.

atipofthehat

@barbara millicent roberts

You'd think that people would have had enough of silly websites.
But I look around me and I see it isn't so.
Some people wanna fill the world with silly websites.
And what's wrong with that?
I'd like to know....

laurel

I have an bottomless appetite for "Ask a Handy Femme" posts. And I wish those posts were also slugged with "How to Be a Girl".

DianaPrince

@laurel Agreed! More Lucia!

miwome

@laurel Yes yes yes.

Diana

@laurel

I loooove her column but could I request more handylady type topics, and not so many "here's how to make your own earrings" subjects? I have no lifeskills, teach me how to re-wire a lamp/fix my stupid toilet/tighten things what need fixin', etc. It's a miracle my useless ass is still alive.

L M
L M

@laurel I was gonna teach y'all how to grout/do more Handy Femme things, but apparently that's too easy to google. So I'll be doing my column on my site now, ladylessons.com.

L M
L M

@Craftastrophies PS email me! luciamv at gmail

sarahe

I love the "Let's all make..." or anything crafty, for when I want a quiet night in with my good friend Wine but I want to have something to show for my weekend.

snuffleupagus

@sarahe Yes! But, like, crafts that can be done while drinking wine without injuring oneself.

Changeling

@sarahe
I'd love to see more craftiness too, especially sewing and mending. I'm good on patching jeans, but can I do something about little holes in my t-shirts? Do people still darn socks?

jenny@twitter

@Changeling I need to know the answer to darning socks! It can't be that hard and you dont even have to do a good job because people don't really see your socks....right?

fondue with cheddar

@jenny@twitter I've never darned a sock because I imagine you can feel the seam on your toes and that is Not Okay. Unless there's a trick to making it better? Have I had a darned-sock misconception all this darned time?

Tuna Surprise

@Changeling
I have knit gloves that need darning. I could use this tutorial!

Changeling

@Tuna Surprise
oooh and sweaters, too. There's a hold in the elbow, though I guess I could just do a parch on both arms and that would look OK.

ilikemints

@Changeling I would LOVE to learn how to darn socks! The heels always wear out so fast on mine.

no way

@everyone looking for a darning tutorial: I just successfully darned a pot holder a couple weeks ago! I used this tutorial from Karen Barbe. It was very satisfying and took forever.

Craftastrophies

@jen325 I've only ever darned the heels. But basically, I am too Special for it to be a great idea for me. It's ok if it's a thick sock, but if it's thin then the difference is too great and it makes me twitchy. But I have thick stockings that I catch on things, and I darn those (on the leg).

I love the 'let's all make'. I do lots of crafts, but I like being reminded that they don't have to involve expensive supplies or a million hours to be fun and productive.

EpWs

@Craftastrophies Also, "Things You Should Never Buy Because Seriously Look How Easy They Are To Make." Exhibit A: Curtains.

teaandcakeordeath

@sarahe
I love the craft posts! I alwqays try them and then always mess them up and end up with a rubbish blob but its still always fun!

dotcommie

oo oo, one more thing! posts on VIDEO GAMES, i could write a mean zelda: skyward sword story. girls do like these things!

dj pomegranate

@dotcommie I like this idea.

fondue with cheddar

@dotcommie As a girl who just spent half her weekend playing Skyrim, I wholeheartedly second this. VIDEO GAMES!

insouciantlover

@jen325 How many dragons did you kill? Did you learn any new words of power? I would write a Skyrim piece, something like "that one day that I did nothing but gather herbs and eat them."

angelan

@dotcommie Yesss.

I mean, I am a phd student with like no spare time, so it's pretty much just going to be Mass Effect 3 for me this year, but OH MY GOD I AM SO EXCITED FOR IT! When the femshep trailer came out I had a bit of a giddy flail around my bedroom.

(People tell me I need to play Skyrim, but I worry I will never write my thesis if I do.)

Craftastrophies

@jen325 I've just started playing League of Legends, because I can play a half an hour game after work and not get sucked in forever. It's scratching my gaming itch nicely.

fondue with cheddar

@insouciantlover I haven't killed any dragons yet because I just started playing this weekend, but I just learned my first word of power last night! I did the Companions quest where you have to go through that crypt to get the piece of sword, and on the wall at the end was this glowy blue symbol and I was all OOH...PRETTY and walked toward it. Then I thought WAIT, THIS MIGHT BE DANGEROUS AND STUPID and then there was a bright light and noise and I was like OH GREAT, NOW I'VE DONE IT, and then the game was all WORD OF POWER, YO, and I was like YAYYYY!

fondue with cheddar

@Craftastrophies I hadn't heard of League of Legends, but it looks neat! An online game that I could play at work is dangerous for me, though. ;)

fondue with cheddar

@angelan You are right to worry! Yeah...definitely don't get Skyrim until after you write your thesis.

And definitely get Skyrim after you write your thesis. :)

celacia

@jen325 @angelan We got Skyrim, Dragon Age 2, and SW:TOR for Christmas. I haven't even installed Skyrim or DA2 because Star Wars has been kind of all-engrossing. I don't even _like_ the Star Wars universe much. But it is awesome to play like other Bioware games, only because it is mmo-ish, you can essentially play co-op with people, which is the best. Also, it has Steve Blum doing some of the voice acting and he has the _sexiest voice ever_.

fondue with cheddar

@celacia Oh, I loved Dragon Age 2! I've played through 2 or 3 times but haven't bought any of the expansions yet (I didn't have an Internet connection).

I'm not an MMO player so I haven't tried SW:TOR, but I do know the voice of Steve Blum from Dragon Age: Origins. You're right about the sexiness. :)

insouciantlover

@jen325 I know exactly what you mean! Prepare for many a weekend of WORDS OF POWER, YO.

fondue with cheddar

@insouciantlover WOO! I'm hoping my Valentine's Day will consist of steak for dinner, chocolate for dessert, Skyrim for a couple hours with my boyfriend cuddling with/napping on me (he's tired today), sex, then sleep. Sounds like a perfect evening.

celacia

@jen325 It really doesn't play like an mmo at all, though, which is the charm of it. (Although I do not know how the endgame is, and that's what matters for it as an mmo. It's entirely possible that I will lose all interest once I hit the end of the character/story driven stuff.) If you have someone who you like to (or would like to) play games with I think it's totally worth getting and doing at least some of the story arcs before unsubscribing.

fondue with cheddar

@celacia That's cool, maybe I'll check it out! I do have friends who play MMOs, and my boss does too. AFAIK he isn't playing it, but it seems like something he'd be totally into. We talk games up to each other all the time. :)

Craftastrophies

@jen325 You have to download it, which is why I can play it. Seriously, I had to ban myself even from stupid facebook flash games because I could not stop myself from logging in, 'just to check'. But I CAN stop myself from downloading a large file and installing it. Just about.

fondue with cheddar

@Craftastrophies That's good! It's definitely much easier to restrain yourself that way.

Tropical Iceland

More Edith! I feel like there's a lot less of her writing than there used to be, which is a shame because every word she (you?) writes brings me joy.

bangs
bangs

I’d like to see more adventure/travel type columns. Please further my daydreaming.

bangs
bangs

Especially modern Antarctic expeditions. I can never read enough about those.

hedgehog

@Xaxa Yes please.

miwome

Annnd another thought! Serious analysis of pop culture delivered hilariously (or not necessarily, whatever). Like Our Bella, Ourselves, that one time? This could easily be hybridized with the TV requests, maybe.

pterodactgirl

@miwome Our Bella, Ourselves was amazing.

skyslang

@miwome Yes! I posted about this downthread. Nobody else is critiquing pop culture like this. I need more.

miwome

@skyslang Do you read Alyssa Rosenberg at all? She does some amazing things.

pterodactgirl

More Melis? Or Mallory Ortberg/whatever she calls herself IRL? Because her pieces always make me laugh out loud.

Limaceous

@pterodactgirl MELIS!

(if you say her name 3 times, she appears in a comment thread)

melis

i am here
what do you command

hedgehog

@melis please deconstruct self-righteous sociocultural bullshit some more?

Feminist Killjoy

@whizz_dumb Who is this Maria lady? Tell me more

Killerpants

All the "Ask A" columns. More Handy Femme! More Queer Chick! Love the Personal Bests. More Money stuff too. Sometimes I want more content and fewer quick links, but then there are all those quicklinks that are just such gems that I also don't want them to go away. Love the How to Be a Girl videos. Wouldn't mind more book stuff, or the book club idea.

mabellegueule

Possibility of making this a message board? It's fun at the time to see comments expanding but harder to go back and find comments (or people!) you particularly liked.

And if there could be a 24-7 Ask A Dude and Lady on call for all of our pressing needs...

cuminafterall

Olympics coverage PLZ!! Would love to see some interviews with Olympians in lesser-known sports about how they got into their sport and how they balance being tops in the world at archery/slalom canoe/etc. with actual life where you have to feed yourself.

EpWs

@cuminafterall I would read this ALL OVER THE PLACE. Because, let's be serious here, EVERYBODY loves the Olympics, even if you are not into patriotism or sports.

karion

I like editorial-type stuff, and don't see it that much here. I realize that there is a pressing need not to be controversial and to make the place safe for everybody and all of that. But it does seem that contributors to the Hairpin are less likely to put forth an actual, strong opinion on a given topic, preferring instead to take a neutral, "let's look at both sides" stance.

Which, yes, neutral has an obvious place here. But when you read a publication consistently, you become invested in the contributors, and much like with friends, I want to know their opinions on matters, you know? Not because I want to discount them, or reject them, but because I have, MANY times here, reconsidered my own perspective in light of well-reasoned opinions of other commenters.

PistolPackinMama

@karion Would you like to come to my class and say that very thing about perspectives?

rucifie

I love all the suggestions about more long-form posts, and more of the under-the-surface personal experiences -- what it's like to be an abortion provider, what it's like to have a miscarriage, etc. Not to be a total downer, but I'd like to hear about more economy-driven experiences too -- what it's like to lose your job or lose a house, and how to maybe cope or get through it.

Also, I love Jane Marie and the "How to be" and bargain bin posts, but sometimes I find the suggestions way too pricey -- I doubt everyone here can afford $30 lipsticks or $75 t-shirts, even if they are on sale. Not sayin you have to link to Target only, but sometimes I feel like there's an expectation that everyone can or should afford expensive swag.

ach_so

@rucifie Yeah, I'd really like to see How to Be a Girl Who Has Little Disposable Income.

dj pomegranate

So, I don't know exactly how this would work because religion is hard to talk about and can bring out trolls, which is unfortunate. But I think it would be neat to have sort of a "The best time I..." + "Ask a..." + religion. So like, "The best time I converted" or "The best time I de-converted!" or, "Ask an American Muslim woman" interview or "How I learned about my grandparents' Judaism"...something like that? I feel like women especially often interpret and modernize their faith in such interesting ways, and I always want to hear more about their individual stories. I've had a few comment discussions touching on this and I think it could be really interesting for religious, religious-curious, and non-religious alike!

miwome

@dj pomegranate I would love. this.

Jolie Kerr

THISITY THIS THIS THIS

fondue with cheddar

@dj pomegranate I'm not at all religious, but I would love this, too. 'Pinners love to learn about people who are different than themselves!

Jolie Kerr

@jen325 Somewhat related to that last and EXCEEDINGLY TRUE statement about Our Community: Documentary reviews/recommendations. Katie Walsh and I basically have a pact with one another to always tell the other when we've discovered a good one but it seems selfish for us to keep that in our email, doesn't it??

Related: "Bastards of the Party", about the evolution of the Bloods, is on Watch Instant and it is FASCINATING.

EpWs

@dj pomegranate I would read this all day.

ELECTROMAGNETIC CHAOS

@Jolie Kerr: Where has Miss Walsh been, anyway?

fondue with cheddar

@Jolie Kerr Ooh, yes! I do love me a good documentary.

laurel

I would read and write questions to Ask a Vain Dermatologist. Someone with sound medical knowledge who understands that I want healthy skin that loooks goood.

raised amongst catalogs

@laurel Oh, yes to this.

New Commenter Name

HOLY CRAP! I am truly and actually and for reals sitting down and eating nuts RIGHT NOW. Why didn't any of you tell me sooner that I have known the secret of life many many times?

ebgb

more frequent advice columns and "the best time I..." columns

Nasya Sara@twitter

ummm can you make it so that links open in new windows so i can view them with my right eye and continue reading the hairpin with my left eye? or is that already possible and i just fail at the internet...?

New Commenter Name

@Nasya Sara@twitter Do you know that if you right-click on a link, a quick menu opens? And you can choose to open the link in a new tab or new window.

Nasya Sara@twitter

thanks! i feel smart. but thanks really!

New Commenter Name

But seriously, Hairpin, I love you. I am like the kid in high school who wrote "never change" in your yearbook.

cherrispryte

OOoohh I am going to use this for my own devices!

I've been kicking around the idea of pitching some sort of plus-size/fat-friendly post to Edith (which would hopefully spin off into a column) but I'm not sure what sort of an angle to take on it, or what sort of topics people would be interested in?
Fashion resources? Navigating _______ while bigger-than-average?
What do you think, and what would you like to see covered?

boyofdestiny

@cherrispryte This is an excellent idea.

atipofthehat

@cherrispryte

Thirded! Also, an advice column? Dating column? All of the above?

TeresaOtter

@cherrispryte Yes! A thousand times yes!

Fig. 1 (formerly myfanwy)

@cherrispryte I would settle for a piece on the unfortunate individuals who cannot design clothing for larger women. Srsly, horizontal stripes & hip ruffles? My friend has four stores to choose from in this city and three of them are full of asinine and frankly, disrespectful clothing.

Fig. 1 (formerly myfanwy)

@cherrispryte Ooh, and how to remove fat-shaming language/actions etc from your vocabulary. Like, hurtful things that people often say that they may not know are hurtful.

Craftastrophies

@cherrispryte YES.

How about, how to get out of/shut down diet talk? So many women use it as bonding. And then I feel complicit. Because I can't even say something like 'oh well, it's delicious so I don't care' because I'm the Fat One and then it just looks like I've given up. Which I have, but only because I don't care.

That is my most pressing thing that I would like to talk about. I but were this to happen, I can talk about this FOREVER. I mean, how about, how to make sure your friends don't go to that one restaurant that has booths that you can barely fit in and then you can't breathe all night?

cherrispryte

@Craftastrophies These are great ideas, everyone! Thank you, and keep 'em coming!

Also, FUCKING RESTAURANT BOOTHS. And spindly little cafe chairs that wobble.

Craftastrophies

@cherrispryte Or at IKEA, where your one friend is always like 'let's sit at the high table!' on those spindly fucking bar stools. ARGH.

sceps yarx

@cherrispryte One of my all-time favorite Hairpin articles was "living with boobs that can be seen from orbit". Even though I'm a double A cup, I'm pretty sure that was the best body-positive thing I've ever read.

femme cassidy

@Fig. 1 (formerly myfanwy) Everything in this thread is for yes EXCEPT your frankly insupportable allegations about fat chicks and horizontal stripes. Horizontal stripes are awesome on everybody, I will fight to the death over that one.

Lily Rowan

@cherrispryte How about health at any size? That kind of thing?

I think the Hairpin is at its best when it's doing "the personal is political." Everyone raves about Ask An Abortion Provider, and I think a lot of what's great about it is because it is about one person's job and life and experiences, which are about abortion, but it's not a policy paper or whatever.

tortietabbie

@cherrispryte Ask a Real Live Actual Fat Person! (pick me! pick me!)

Fig. 1 (formerly myfanwy)

@femme cassidy The defense respectfully submits 85% of the Addition Elle inventory as Exhibit A. I am not one to dictate absolute fashion rules but they have gone too far. Or not far enough.

Fig. 1 (formerly myfanwy)

@Fig. 1 (formerly myfanwy) Either that or I have the most hateful plus size store in the franchise.

femme cassidy

@Fig. 1 (formerly myfanwy) Huh, I don't have one nearby but I just googled it and their stock doesn't look too offensive to me. It's kinda boring, but not like assaulting my eyes. BUT I will cop to an overwhelming pro-stripe bias--if there were a store called "Nothing But Horizontal Stripes, For Fat Girls" I would never shop anywhere else. Especially if they could manage to incorporate the color aesthetic of a five-year-old on a sugar high.

cherrispryte

@femme cassidy well now I very much want to raid your closet. Stripes are tricky. If you're team "fuck flattering" (which, if you are, come sit by me) then they're awesome, but if not, they can make some parts of you look bigger. Which shouldn't be a concern, but clearly still is to a lot of people.

femme cassidy

@cherrispryte I just, okay, the thing is: I am fat. I am a size 18 with hugenormous boobs and a stomach like I'm pregnant with a two-year-old. It's not like there is A Thing I can wear that will make me not look fat, you know? "Slimming"? "Flattering"? WHAT THE FUCK ARE THOSE THINGS. And since I'm always gonna look fat I might as well do it in stripes, which are awesome!

I also actually think stripes don't make big look bigger so much as they make curvy look curvier, which I am down with. And you can totally raid my closet but you'd better give me back my red-and-hot-pink-striped sweater when you're done with it!

tortietabbie

@femme cassidy Lady, I want to subscribe to your newsletter.

Fig. 1 (formerly myfanwy)

@cherrispryte OK, let me clarify: I love it when people just go with their bad selves and wear what they love. It's just maddening when you only have one store to shop at and all the clothes are straight up ugly (in addition to all the bullshit about "camouflaging your flaws".) Like, there was nothing there that either her or I would wear with the exception of some of the jeans. She put it the best: "Why can't stores just make the same things, but in larger sizes?" Not to mention the plus-size stuff is usually jammed at the back. I went shopping with aforementioned friend on the weekend - one of the stores that she likes going to has stopped carrying their larger sizes in store - they're just available online. Which is another massive fuck-you. It's not like there's a lack of demand.

cherrispryte

@femme cassidy Strongly agreed! I am right there with you on all of that (hell, I'm several sizes bigger than you) and I wear the hell out of stripes, leggings, short skirts, "skinny jeans," etc. I was searching my blog for the photo I posted of myself last year in a horizontally striped jumper (I call it my old-timey-bathing-costume) that's pretty much my favorite thing to wear in the summer. Cause fuggit.

Craftastrophies

@femme cassidy I am team fuck flattering, in theory, but some days, I wanna be flattered, ya know? Well, I guess I mean that some days I want to look GOOD. What that means changes, too. Some days it means accentuating my hourglass figure (lotta privilege comes with that, even when I thought I was gross for being fat, I could jump on the 'curvy' bandwagon) and some days it's playing up butchness or something else. Full disclosure, I'm a tweenie, and I've never been more than that, despite what teenage me thought. Right now I can MAYBE buy the biggest size in a straight store, but usually only one or two things, which are usually more expensive, ill fitting, and not to my taste. And I can MAYBE buy the smallest size in a plus size store. Dudes, this is frustrating and also ridiculous. From this position, the switch over is even more obvious - I am browsing in the straight sizes, I can see all the things I would love to own, but they only go up to... oh, the AVERAGE SIZE of a woman. And then of course things in my size sell out - Kmart makes a great bra that is 2 for $20 and is the most comfortable bra I have owned since I shot past c cups. But there are never any, because the second they get restocked, someone buys them. I don't blame them, if I'm ever in there and they're there, I am buying ALL of them.

Also, re: stripes. I love them to the point of being a bit weird. Gingham and stripes, with a side serving of polka dots. Anything gingham. I was mocking boutique kitchen ware with a friend the other day until we found a gingham knife, (!) and then I had to be talked down from buying it. So, I will wear them. And although I am not the same size and shape as Femme Cassidy, it sounds like, there is no hiding the fact that I am big and so are my boobs. People might still be able to say 'oh, but you're not fat!' without thinking they're lying (they are lying. I am fat) but no amount of 'clever' dressing rules are going to make me look like Twiggy.

I've never liked vertical stripes - possibly from sheer perverseness? I find it's one of those things, like handkerchief hems and floaty polyester tops, that just screams 'I'm fat and you are right to hate my body! I'm so sorry that you have to look at me!' This is just association with the horrible, ugly, plus size stuff available, nothing against handkerchief hems, vertical stripes and floaty tops as SUCH (polyester can go hang, though. One of the reasons I won't buy online is that so much plus size is that awful squeaky polyester and I need to touch it first so I know it won't make me barfy.)

Also, there was a QI question that said the stripes thing was the other way http://www.comedy.co.uk/guide/tv/qi/episodes/7/16/ (and also backs up my association thing, above).

This has been my private hairpin blog about how shopping for a larger body sucks. I have a craft camp in March, and I have asked the two other ladies of size to bring patterns, and I am going to try to clothe my nakedness. But although I quite enjoy clothing myself with my own hands, I should NOT HAVE TO.

(PS, hip ruffles 4EVA)

cherrispryte

@Craftastrophies Shopping for large bodies sucks so hard. Almost all the things I own, I've purchased online. Or I take the metro/a bus for 2 hours to the one mall that has a Torrid in the entire tri-state area, as it is literally the only place I can find jeans that fit me. I want vertically striped tights, and a vertically striped blazer, but like the things circus folk would wear, not anything classy :) Aside from that, no vertical stripes for me either.
I think this is something the Hairpin will start to cover a bit more sometime very soon, if that's any comfort.

Craftastrophies

@cherrispryte I really wish We Love Colors had better patterned tights - spots and so on. I might have to buy some plain ones and paint them.

There is a dearth of plus sized shops around here. The only ones I can think of are My Size and Autograph, and they do not ahve clothes that would fit my shape or tastes. Some of the cheapo stores in poor areas have larger clothes, but then I have cheapo clothes. Which is not always a problem, but... I just hate paying more for a lower quality thing, because I am bigger.

Also, yesssssssssssssssssssss it is a comfort.

MonicatMeow

More Ask a Clean Person, Ask an Organized Person, Ask a Clever Person. All your "How to Be Awesome at Life" columns are big faves. Keep up the good work!

WastedPaper

MOAR CUTE ANIMALS!!!!*

*Yes, yes I know there are lots of other places to go for that stuff, but if I got my fix here then I'd never have to leave! SEE HOW THIS IS A WIN-WIN FOR EVERYONE YEAHHHH

iceberg

Everything is perfect! I enjoy the real women's experiences stories and the odd things (Ask A Pigeon?) and Reading Between the Texts and anything Edith does.

pain

Ask a Clean Person has changed my life!!!!!! I love it. How else can you improve my life? I should probably, like, work out more? Ask a Buff Person?

ELECTROMAGNETIC CHAOS

@pain: I am seriously considering writing a fitness primer for the 'pin.

fondue with cheddar

@Too Much Internet OOH, PLEASE DO THIS. I've been overweight my entire adult life and have a hard time sticking to any fitness plan or knowing what to do.

Mingus_Thurber

@Too Much Internet Oh, yes. Please. I've worked out with a trainer for going on five years now, and I would like to be able to bring her some new awful tortures rather than always always vice-versa.

ELECTROMAGNETIC CHAOS

@jen325: It would be pretty darn long and be more about the social/psychological impact of the idea of fitness as it relates to women than a instructional thing... like, a 'teach a man to fish' sort of deal.

EpWs

@Too Much Internet DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT IMMEDIATELY

Craftastrophies

@Too Much Internet YES PLEASE.

fondue with cheddar

@Too Much Internet That sounds wonderful!

boyofdestiny

I'm ok with being the only person in the universe who wants less relationship advice columns.

atipofthehat

@boyofdestiny

"FEWER"! QUICK, WHILE THERE'S STILL TIME!

wallsdonotfall

@boyofdestiny Are you also okay with having company in that?

Jolie Kerr

@wallsdonotfall *pulls up tuffet*

boyofdestiny

@atipofthehat It's funny. I minimized this window for a couple minutes, and in the middle of doing something completely unrelated, thought "Wait a sec, did I say less or fewer in that comment? I gotta go back!"

cherrispryte

@Jolie Kerr scoot over.

EpWs

@cherrispryte I hope there's room on the tuffet because if not I'm sitting on someone's lap.

Craftastrophies

@atipofthehat No, he likes the number of them, he just wants them to be shorter.

Fig. 1 (formerly myfanwy)

Have you guys considered doing a reader poll? I know it would be self-selected and all that, but it might help in pinning down your demographic.

Craftastrophies

@Fig. 1 (formerly myfanwy) I see what you did there.

Fig. 1 (formerly myfanwy)

@Craftastrophies Can't I post a comment on here without getting needled?

Craftastrophies

@Fig. 1 (formerly myfanwy) Is there any way that I could (pin)cushion the blow?

Blousey Brown

"Ask a" whatever -- can't get enough of those.

Changeling

As a newcomer to the Hairpin, I would really like a browse-able archive as opposed to just a search-able one. I want to read old things, but I don't know what they are yet!

feline

@Changeling Yes, THIS.

Craftastrophies

@Changeling I would like a highlights of the 'Pin. Great articles that are sitting in the archives that I don't have time to go find/feel weird commenting on a year later.

mczz

As far as quick-links go, you guys have directed me to some amazing stories I may never have found otherwise. The only ones coming to mind at the moment are the article written by Patrick Carney's ex-wife and an old story that Nicole Cliffe linked to about parents accidentally leaving their children in cars. Okay, those were wildly disparate examples and I'm sorry for that! But the point is, please keep linking fantastic stories like that... I would always take that kind of personal tell-all or heavy hitting writing over quick links about (oh god how do I even say this???) dolls.

ilikemints

@mczz I also really like the quicklinks! Please don't stop those! Those are mainly how I know about other interesting things going on in the internet/world.

ThisLittlePiggy

Perhaps a "what it's like to live in ____" or "what it's like to be a ____." You're already doing this in an INCREDIBLE way with the "the best time I ___" series. Basically, more of these! Oh and more Jane Marie tutorials. :)

frigwiggin

I don't know that there's anything I want! Just for the Hairpin to not go away. And for Friday bargain bins to always stick around so that we can keep on doing Gary and Elaine Fridays in the comments. Oh, someone up-top suggested more fiction? I would totally be into more short fiction, or serial fiction!

(I would also love to submit a Personal Best or some short fiction, but my own opinion of my work makes me want to pass out just thinking about it. I don't want to be rejected!)

bean1

I love basically everything about the Hairpin, especially the "Ask a anything" columns, and Katie's "Reading between the Texts" (seriously, brilliant.) but Abe Sauer's articles over at The Awl are OUTSTANDING. I'd love to read more of Abe, or someone similar over here, especially with the impending election. I would write it if I could, but sadly, I'm just not that talented. Abe Sauer is my hero.

Feminist Killjoy

I wish there was a way to navigate from one post to the next without having to open each in their own tab/window. Like, when I open "Ask A ___" (because I have to open it on its own page to view the whole post and of course the comments), there should be a link to "next post" and "previous post."

Except next and previous are really confusing (why is the next post always the next newest post? Who reads blogs like that?), so maybe "older post" and "newer post."

Pleease?

tee
tee

I would like to see more social-political commentary! And less Cosmo-ish stuff. I love you, Hairpin! But sometimes I feel like we're steering into Ironic Cosmo-Zone.

Also, more in the manner of Carolita Johnson, Melis, more Simone (not that they have the same manner, but.)

lobsterhug

@tee Yes to more Carolita. I would seriously read her shopping list.

tee
tee

@tee I guess I would like to see less links, and more thoughtful long-form posts? I realize that it's probably difficult to deliver those constantly, but there you go.

Jenivere

@tee As long as The Hairpin never turns into Jezebel, I am more than ok with a makeup tutorial here and there. But maybe that's because this is the first place I've found where I can ask questions like "Are suntan pantyhose ever ok?" without feeling like I'm being judged.

slutberry

@tee I feel like that... not that the Hairpin needs to get rid of any of its shallower content (c'mon, I LOVE Jane's tutorials!), but I'd like to see more serious, thought-provoking material, too. And not just off-site links (though those are great), like actual 'Pin articles. (Which means people need to submit those! So I'm looking at you, 'Pinners!)

tee
tee

@teffodee Yup, exactly.

Diana

@teffodee

This is the Internet! It is limitless, like space. Unless there's some kind of issue I don't understand (not that it's ever happened before) I don't see why contributions would have to be a zero sum game - adding more longform content does not necessitate cutting down on girly posts. This isn't a published magazine with publishing costs to factor, and most folks are writing for free. At least that's how I hope it works, because honestly the only thing I want from the Hairpin is more of everything.

tee
tee

@Diana Fair enough. More of everything works too. I guess what I meant was, if the amount of content is going to stay the same, I'd prefer to see more longform posts and less linkage.

Beericle

I would like to quit getting crappy pin-pals who even though I sent them neat stuff in the mail, broke all their fingers or something because they don't write me back.

dj pomegranate

@Beericle I just put my Pin Pal Package in the mail TODAY! So if you are my Pin Pal I am sorry, I am lame and late. :(

mabellegueule

@dj pomegranate What is this Pin Pals you speak of??

Beericle

@dj pomegranate ha ha. That made me laugh. Good for you for following through! It doesn't matter that you are late! You at least did it! Good job!!

dj pomegranate

@Beericle Maybe you are not even my pin pal, but I felt I had to come clean about my tardiness anyhow!

@Fig. 1 (formerly myfanwy) I think there was an earlier iteration of pin pals, but the one I think we are both referring to originated here.

jstar

@mabellegueule yeah what's a pin pal?

sox
sox

@Beericle I don't think you are my Pin Pal, but I AM responding to the lovely card I received! I was hoping to get it there by tomorrow but fear I failed miserably...sorry dear Pinner!

Craftastrophies

@Beericle Argh, I woke up at 2am this morning remembering that I haven't sent anything to my PinPal yet. But I will! But also, they haven;t sent me anything yet, so I don't feel so bad.

Beericle

@sox aw. I wish you were my pin-pal, I like your 'comments' but either way, I think it is cool, no matter what that you are still sending your 'pal stuff. Keep it up!

nyikint

@Beericle Whyyy is no one telling us poor sods what a pin pal is? :(

tortietabbie

@Beericle I fear there may have been a rash of broken fingers among Pin Pals! Is there a Broken Finger Bandit going around?! So sad!

@nyikin, et al - Pin Pals are pen pals, but Hairpinner-to-Hairpinner! They are the best! Except when they don't write back.

Beericle

@tortietabbie get this. I went to check my mail this morning - and the first card I sent my pin pal CAME BACK. She is probably somewhere hating ME. (well not really since she isnt flooding me with mail) I didn't have time to check the address but how funny.

The Lady of Shalott

Pin Pals!!!

I am organizing the Hairpin Pin Pal Club for Paper Garbage Month (aka February), and for any time beyond, however long people want to write to their 'pals. I STRONGLY ENCOURAGE anyone whose pin pal hasn't written back to A) give it some time, especially with international mail, and then B) email me! If you're still interested I will do some shuffling and re-matching and organizing another round of Pin Palling. You can reach me at sdqsdq at gmail, guys! Happy writing!

Craftastrophies

@The Lady of Shalott Seriously, whoever has me I promise I have a package together and I will send it this weekend. And then it will take a million years to get to you from Australia. I'm sorry!

jules

The Awl sometimes has posts about how certain published writers got to where they are, or how people quit their jobs and started a new life.

I'd love to see features on Awesome Ladies, and how they got to be so Awesome. Women who are at the top of their game in a particular field. I think that would be inspiring, and perhaps motivating.

skyslang

More pop culture / film / music / literature essays! I love the intelligent, humorous, personal note these essays have taken in the past, and only hope for more in the future. Keep things entertaining.

beanie

More Bobby Finger and David Rees! And Julie Klausner! Basically, anyone I read on Tumblr/NYMag, I want more because I am selfish.

LolaMoco

keep writing things that assume that readers are smart! ALSO: I am sure it is very time-consuming, but I love the illustrated movie reviews. They make me laugh out loud and I force my loved ones to read them. More of those would be great. Also the clean person. They are my inspiration. Maybe more book reviews? I love hairpin, and hairpin commentators, or commenters, whichever is correct.

femme cassidy

Would anyone be even the slightest bit interested in me writing about my favorite pastime that I never mention here because I'm afraid you'll all think I'm a dork, which is slam poetry? (I promise to still say "vagina" a lot.)

miwome

@femme cassidy Into it!

bangs
bangs

@femme cassidy I have no idea what that is, so yes.

sox
sox

@femme cassidy Did you say once that you live in Golden, CO? Are you familiar with Vox Feminista? Perhaps we can recruit Andrea Gibson to make a guest appearance.

femme cassidy

@sox Haha, I know her! (But I'm not letting her write my post, she's already emceeing an event that I wanted to emcee, she has enough!)

sox
sox

@femme cassidy Yeah, actually, Andrea may have plenty enough recognition in her own rite. Now that I think about it, the girl who's done a lot of Vox's video pieces (gah, wish I knew her name! I'd recognize her face...) should absolutely have some of her videos featured here!

Layla

Oh also, original quizzes. Like Cosmo quizzes, but weird and 'Pinnish (What kind of spider are you?). That is the second thing I've suggested that's just a nonstupid version of a lady mag staple. Shrug.

pterodactgirl

@Layla I adored "What kind of Spider are you?". The weird and 'Pinnish stuff is the greatest.

Diana

@Layla

"What does your favorite Tiny House say about your personality?"

EpWs

@Layla "What flavor of Qream are you?"

Layla

@Layla "What kind of friends are your dolls?"

Layla

@Layla "You and your winter boyfriend: Meant to last?"

atipofthehat

@Layla

I would like to read an article by a woman who tried all of Cosmo's top sex tips.

(Do they still make scrunchies?)

pointy

Just because I feel like this is becoming a catalog of Things People Like On Here: the Lisa Hanawalt pieces (movie Illustrated Responses, animal drawings) are among the best things I've seen anywhere on the internet.

Also, more books, book reviews, talking about books. I was just reading the Jonathan Franzen piece on Edith Wharton in the NYer and thinking to myself huh, this is less smart than it would have to be to make the Hairpin.

insouciantlover

I love reading about travel. I would adore an article that's written like "the best time I" and is about taking a trip! Like, I could write "the best time I ever got an infected tooth extracted by a cranky Spanish dentist for 30 euros" or "the best time that I pretended to adopt a dog in Istanbul and fed him lamb kebabs until a pack of roaming dogs came at us and he ran away. His name was Sparky." See??? Wouldn't you read these?

feartie

@insouciantlover I have a good one about the confusion over 'herpes' in a Catalonian pharmacy.

insouciantlover

@feartie lol omg I want to hear that story.

Also I could write many an article about my deep love for Spanish farmacias.

Kneetoe

Less of this.

insouciantlover

@Kneetoe Less of YOU

Kneetoe

@insouciantlover

Awww, hope you know I'm kidding. Stupid internet tone thing.

Craftastrophies

@Kneetoe Less of your FACE.

(this is a joke.)

Kneetoe

@Craftastrophies

That's only a joke because you haven't SEEN me face.

(Of course, in reality and far from the world of jokes, I'm terribly handsome.)

Craftastrophies

@Kneetoe I sensed that, from your teeny blank silhouette. Even without your dramatically rugged yet welcoming features, it makes me swoon.

insouciantlover

@Kneetoe I was joking! And I knew you were joking. We joked together!

Better to Eat You With

More stuff about books!

permanentbitchface

I would like to see more perspectives from people who don't work in an office-y type place or profession. The "Ask an Abortion Provider" was fabulous, and there's been other posts that offer a different view, but I don't feel like I can't relate to many of the posts/stories/advice that imply that we all work in very professional environments.
I'm not sure if this sounds strange or even makes sense at all? I just feel a little left out as a restaurant-working lady sometimes.

celacia

@Christina I feel you down here in the depths of my horrible liquor store retail hell.

insouciantlover

@Christina No no, I hear you! I don't think it sounds strange at all. As a matter of fact, up thread I just made a comment about my experience in the construction field.

I also think these points of view help people realize that not all intelligent people will go into intellectual type jobs. I am a fierce defender of the blue collar worker!

franceschances

@Christina Also there's a definite tendency in the Hairpin/the Awl articles to make reference to admin staff as some bizarre other but um...we read this, too.

Craftastrophies

@insouciantlover I work in an office. I would like to hear things about people who don't, and that don't assume that working in an office is the only way to be.

Give me hope, people!

pkg
pkg

I am mainly a lurker here and am way out of your demographic, but I love it when you talk about books, especially Nicole C.

Thank you for brightening an old man's day.

iceberg

also the illustrated reviews!!! the best.

Jenivere

I really love the things that are original to the Hairpin, especially history-related posts (Estate Jewelry and Scandals of Classic Hollywood, especially). I'd love to see more series like this...maybe badass women throughout history? Maybe some recent music history? I also really like the "Best time I..." stories. And Jane's hip-hop recommendations! Friday Bargain Bin is also an essential part of my week.

I'd be less likely to read fiction and sports coverage, but I have a feeling if it made it to the Hairpin it would still be worth checking out.

purefog

I am astonished that, in 562 comments, no one has noted that we need MORE FEELINGS HERE!

redheaded&crazy

@purefog duly noted, will oblige.

Craftastrophies

@purefog Also, more sleepovers.

Tuna Surprise

@purefog

Needs less privilege.

redheaded&crazy

@Tuna Surprise Also, less OPINIONS ladies, for the love of god less opinions.

teaandcakeordeath

@purefog
I just came to The Hairpin to look for recipes of pies to make from low hanging fruit.

mariko

I'm waffling a bit on how to write this... I'd love to see even more diversity than we have here on the 'pin. Sarah LaBrie's taxonomy on black hairstyles comes to mind immediately as an example that handled race in a way I'd like to see covered here more frequently. I'd like to see more articles on gender and race politics (and I feel confident that the readers and writers of the hairpin could do these issues a lot of justice). I enjoy the how to be a girl feature because it is informative, helpful, and fun- I also think it carves out a space where I'd like to see different perspectives on beauty ideologically elaborate on why women do certain things to our bodies and why we feel the need to.

More sex! More philosophy! More scandals! More Kraanth!

Jenivere

@mariko Always more scandals! But of the classic variety, not so much what's covered everywhere else.

mariko

@Jenivere Yes! I vote for Mae West!

miwome

@mariko Kraanth (Kraanth!)

pterodactgirl

@mariko Mae West forever and ever Amen.

iceberg

@mariko I know maybe no one will see this but yes to more diversity/ more race stuff.

spaetzle

I really loved the weird, off-kilter bits of the early Hairpin. While it's true that I'm an advice column fiend and will never NOT click on Friday Bargain Bin, I also sort of feel like... I could find similar things on other websites. Where else but the Hairpin could you find headlines like "Restore Your Virginity the 17th Century Way" or "Woman Pees Such a Small Amount on Floor of Cell Phone Store It's Almost as If She Didn't Pee at All"? Or a link to fish condoms up for auction, five episodes of the fake TV show Dickman, and a little story about the models in a dopey Banana Republic ad? (Or the classic Women Laughing With Salad!) I mean, that stuff is basically guaranteed to get fewer pageclicks and comments than make-up tutorials do, but pleaaaasseee, keep the Hairpin weird!

ilikemints

@spaetzle Yes! More weird!

Fig. 1 (formerly myfanwy)

@spaetzle I feel like this comment should be at the top.

inkysmudge

@spaetzle I agree. And not just because spaetzle is my favorite. I feel like we need more weird captions and illustrations and off-kilter things that make the Hairpin unique. One of the reasons I like the Hairpin so much is it makes me laugh while also introducing me to new and strange things I'd never heard of. So while reader feedback is good, I also think to some extent we don't know what we want until we see it? If it's just catering to reader suggestions there's nothing fresh about it. Maybe.

Also: "Delicious Foods With Crazy Spellings: the Spaetzle and Paczki Story". I want it to be an article but I don't know what it would be about. I want it to be an article I can eat.

ELECTROMAGNETIC CHAOS

@inkysmudge: Well said.

EpWs

@inkysmudge Dammit now all I want is Spaetzle. Especially with my mom's Chicken Paprikash because GOOD LORD that stuff is good.

PistolPackinMama

@spaetzle Pazcki for all. My mom and I make it for Easter...

sceps yarx

@spaetzle I totally agree. I'm going to search for the "Woman Pees Such a Small Amount on Floor of Cell Phone Store It's Almost as If She Didn't Pee at All" right this second!

cherrispryte

@inkysmudge PACZKI! Also, yes, KEEP THE HAIRPIN WEIRD.

Sarah in Japan

I like advice, but I feel it has solely become romantic relationship advice. I'd like a problems-with-friends section, too!

Also as someone who can only come to the party late because of time differences, a messageboard type comments list would be ace. It's hard to catch up!

Maybe an actual related messageboard, too? Then people could maybe post stuff for advice and get advice quicker?

Basically I do not have any romantic relationships but have problems with friends and would like help thanks

EpWs

@Sarah in Japan YES YES MESSAGEBOARD YES

sevanetta

@Sarah in Japan YES A MESSAGEBOARD! As another person always late to the party.

leastimportantperson

Okay, Who Stole the World's Oldest Travel Guide is the funniest fucking thing I have ever read. So um, more imaginary dialogues from Edith? Seriously, I can't even look at it right now because I'm at work, and I will start convulsing with laughter. Edith!!! Please write a million of these omg PLEASE!

"That's crazy, I love fish." I can't even. Or can these girls be recurring characters/commentators? Please. Seriously. I need more of this. There can't only be one.

EpWs

Hairpin, I'm hijacking this because I need advice from you smart ladies and gentlemen. I just found out that my boss from a previous job, who was kind of like an awesome aunt type figure to me (seriously, she is amazing and I love her) just got blindsided with a divorce. I obviously want to be there for her as much as possible and help her out however I can (have already offered alcohol and babysitting) but is there anything else I should do/not do?

wharrgarbl

@The Everpresent Wordsnatcher Maybe try to be kind of an events planner? If the relationship is really long-standing, so many of your social habits revolve around being in a couple that it can be hard to adjust. And of course, every time you think about all the stuff you used to do together, you're scratching at fresh wounds.

raised amongst catalogs

@The Everpresent Wordsnatcher It sounds like you are going to do the right thing just by giving a crap that she is hurting and in need of some help/sympathy/companionship. Lucky previous-boss!

EpWs

@wharrgarbl @vanillawaif Thanks for the advice, you two. This is not a situation I've ever been this close to before so it's really hard for me to know what to say and do. I'm going to go visit her on Thursday (schedules don't allow it before then) with cookies and hugs and perhaps some Kelly Clarkson or Adele? Because she is a badass woman and so are they.
@Tuna Surprise Absolutely. My mom was married once before she met my dad and "get a good lawyer" was the first thing out of her mouth when I told her about this. Good advice, all of it, thank you.

Tuna Surprise

@The Everpresent Wordsnatcher
Sounds like you're on a good path. As a experienced divorcee, I would recommend making sure she has a good lawyer. Tell her she doesn't need to litigate but she needs to make sure she isn't getting railroaded. Suggest she see a good therapist. It's great to have friends but always nice to have a stranger who you can blurt out your craziest stuff to.

mouthmowski

whatever happened to ask twin nurses?

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More Carrie Hill Wilner! More literature in general really. And more Edith (illustrations and writing), and I love the idea of career-specific Ask As (like if we could submit questions for a nurse, or science PhD, or lawyer or what have you).

Porn Peddler

Not that anyone will ever get to the bottom here, but seeing as how we have such a cool group in the comments, y'all should put out calls for specific stories and ideas ie "We are seeking a (insert type of person here) for an "ask a whatever" column!" or "Pitch your ideas about "history of" stories either for you or someone else to write"

EpWs

@Third Wave Housewife Yes! I feel like we've got a great and diverse crew here, crowdsourcing a few things wouldn't be a bad idea if it's feasible from the back end of things.

AuntAgatha

I echo the person above who said they wanted more ethnically/racially diverse perspectives here. I love the Hairpin but sometimes I feel like the writers and commenters both assume that everyone here is White, and it makes me feel a little bit sad and excluded.

It's the little things... the makeup posts that only talk about white skin, that post about sunscreen months ago that implicitly was only considering white skin, even a commenter above who referred to non-White foods as "ethnic" and "exotic". (I'm sorry if I misinterpreted you, commenter!)

I just feel like White is often the default race here and I'd like that to change. I loved that piece of Carolita's about race and body image, and I would really love to see more of that!

kimkrypto

@AuntAgatha Seconded. I really love The Hairpin - it's a daily read - but I do feel really closeted as a person of color here. There aren't really articles about stuff specific to the lives of people of color, and I've definitely noticed the shady default-white stuff that AuntAgatha is pointing out.

It'd be nice to see more stuff relating to queerness in general as well.

rora

@AuntAgatha thirded!

Jolie Kerr

@AuntAgatha Hey that was me. I'm half-Indian, and I complete agree that I'd like to hear more voices of color, which is why I mentioned ethnic cooking ("exotic" was me parroting what another commenter had said). I don't see anything wrong with calling it ethnic or exotic cooking though, but maybe that's because I'm ethnic? I dunno. But yes, I agree! More multi-culti!

thebestjasmine

@AuntAgatha Yes yes yes, definitely more talk about race, that's what I was coming to say (and was getting pretty sad that I had to scroll down this far). But it really bothers me that everyone here just assumes that everyone is white, in the makeup threads, even in the travel threads (like the one where someone said that they just go to places where they can fit in and not look like a tourist, Northern Europe is great for that!). I've had great discussions in comments with people here, but also ones that really trouble me (the "Dan Savage's racism isn't a big deal" one in particular), and I wish there were more non white voices here.

Jolie, I don't like the term "ethnic cooking" because that basically just means "food by non white people," which bugs me, though that's not something that's uniform. I try to not use that word in reference to food when what I mean is just "food of non majority white cultures." And exotic is a really really problematic term to me when it's referring to anything about people who aren't white (especially in reference to women).

Jolie Kerr

@thebestjasmine I totally understand that! But I wasn't using it to mean non-white is the thing. I would consider Russian food, Israeli food, French food etc etc etc to fall into what I meant by "ethnic food" in what I was suggesting, but I know that term is fraught and I wish I'd used something different (like 'multi-culti' which my mentor used to use and I've always loved)! Apologies, from a half-non-white person :)

AuntAgatha

@Jolie Kerr Hey, thanks for clarifying! I'm "ethnic" too and I don't like the word in that context but I appreciate that different people can have different views on the matter.

littlegirlblue

@AuntAgatha Yes PLEASE! I was looking for this comment and hoping I wasn't the only one. I love the hairpin but when I come to the comments I feel like the only brown chick at the slumber party, and I am excited about the makeup too but it looks weird on me and then I just sit quietly and wish I had blonde hair.

Am I projecting from my childhood? Anyway! The Hairpin is awesome, but it is weird that it assumes everyone is white, and it loses a lot by leaving out women of different backgrounds.

femme cassidy

I would like more RuPaul's Drag Race coverage, pleeeeeease!

Mr. Kitty

I am newish around here and rarely have time to comment, but I read The Hairpin every day! I like pretty much everything you're doing, but these are the posts that give me a jolt of happiness when I see them:
-League of Ordinary Ladies
-Ask a Lady/Inanimate Object
-Friday Bargain Bin
-Reading Between the Texts
-Links to short stories
-Hilarious lists (such as the state flags, oh my, so hilarious)

Also, and maybe this has been done here before, but I would enjoy seeing a 30 day Break Up Guide, Hairpin style. You know, a short post every day for 30 days written by someone going through a breakup. A tiny "goal" each day, or even just an insight into their mind. Other websites have attempted this, but without the humor and depth I'm sure The Hairpin could provide. January-March is the worst time of year to go through a break up, in my opinion.

sevanetta

@Sweet Dee Oh my God, I love the idea of the break up guide! OR OR. As well, how about a guide to DTMFA! I feel like we see so many nice people (women and men) write in about their partner who is so great BUT, and everyone says DTMFA, but maybe nice people have not already DTMFA partly because they don't know how?

ELECTROMAGNETIC CHAOS

@Sweet Dee: 'Communiques from the Breakup Bunker'

--Conditions worsening. Comforter wet from tears. Wine running low. Send reinforcements.

redheaded&crazy

@Too Much Internet yeeeeeah i'm gonna need you to get out of my head. especially seeing as we are going on 180 days over here.

JUST KIDDING GUYYSSSS JUST KIDDING. (i gotcha humour and depth riiiight here)

EpWs

@redheadedandcrazy WE LOVE YOU SO. We do, really. And seconding "Communiques from the Breakup Bunker," easily linked and searchable in times of need and crisis.

redheaded&crazy

@The Everpresent Wordsnatcher the breakup bunker post really contains such wisdom and comfort.

i happily accept "that girl with the breakup" as my internet persona. it could be worse! (could it?)

EpWs

@redheadedandcrazy IT COULD. You could be Bob, Eli, or the LW in question. You could be the girl dating the abusive juicebox who refuses to leave. It could be so much worse, promise.

redheaded&crazy

@The Everpresent Wordsnatcher Dear Sweet Baby Jesus, I just want to thank you for not making me Eli.

EpWs

@redheadedandcrazy See? Could be SO MUCH WORSE.

@Sweet Dee

Day 14: Apartment is still a mess, though I did manage to make my bed yesterday. Figured out that I need another bookcase in the hallway to store the crap that's in my closet so my laundry basket is no longer in plain sight. Thinking about having a fling.

She Saved The World, Alot

@Sweet Dee I actually wrote sort of a 30 Day Break Up Guide and sent it in! Except it was to Ask A Dude/Lady if I should try to be friends with the girl who cheated on my best friend who I then (ill-advisedly) got involved with once they broke up (the best friend, who I've known since we were 5). Long story short, he broke my heart (but I kinda walked right into that one) but I SURVIVED. And the question sorta answered itself once I was done writing it, and it was WAYYYYYYY longer than 300 words, so I don't think it'll ever find it's way onto the site.

BUT! Much love and support to anyone going through any devastating love situation! Seriously my heart goes out to you, and you will survive too! I promise! <3

Craftastrophies

I just wanted to say, thanks for asking. I think my favourite thing about the 'Pin - and there are LOTS of things I love about it - is the way it doesn't feel like you guys are throwing us scraps or feel better than us. It feels like a... shit, like a sleepover. God DAMMIT. But no, really, I love the way it feels like a conversation, if a very rowdy one at a party, where you can't hear half of what's being said. So even though I've expressed opinions about things in this thread, what I mostly want is for the Hairpin to stay, and for the people at the pin to stay awesome. I am not worried about those things at all. :)

EpWs

@Craftastrophies Seconded. :)

likethestore

@Craftastrophies Yeah, I never really comment on websites except here because it does feel like a sleepover. Like this is our little secret on the internet. Which obviously isn't true because this is, you know, the INTERNET. But I like the intimate feeling.

OxfordComma

@Craftastrophies : Yes! Exactly, yes! I love that the commentariat on the 'Pin is almost always civil; that we can actually and truly discuss hard issues without screaming horrible things at each other. The Hairpin feels safe, in the best possible way.

Now, who wants to braid each others' hair and go T.P.ing?

minarets

Sports sports sports sports sports sports sports sports.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDpzJk3X020

More sports!

monicamcl

Jumping in waaaay late here, but I'd just like to say how much I liked the Bach post from a few weeks ago. I would LOVE to read more on classical music.

Tuna Surprise

@monicamcl

I was going to request a post from Monica on vintage ladies wrist watches. Why do guys get to have all the fun?!

monicamcl

@Tuna Surprise I'll see what I can find! Watches have never been one of my strong spots, but that's because I tend to overlook them in favor of other shiny things. I'll pay better attention now that I know you're interested!

inkysmudge

@monicamcl SO true! Me too. Scandals of Classical Music should definitely be a thing, along with more YouTube videos of sweet-ass performances like that last one.

monicamcl

@inkysmudge I really appreciated it because I don't know squattah about classical music. I've been determined to learn more - basically just by getting an orchestra subscription - so that post was really helpful. It's great to hear everybody's suggestions and opinions, especially when there are so many musicians among us.

phlox

@inkysmudge Oh my god, there would be so many awesome ones! Now I want to write about Alban Berg, who is my favourite Second Viennese School composer both musically and crazy-life-story-wise.

Ultraviolet

More silly/serious wonderfulness, now also on the weekends?

somethingobscure

MORE EVERYTHING!!! I always feel like I want more Hairpin at the end of the day and on weekends, plz.

And (this goes without saying but I'm saying it anyway), more dorky smiles full of orthodontics.

Two-Headed Girl

Bazillioning the calls for more literature and more history! And more long-ish pieces in general. I almost never click through to links, but big blocks of text that I can read while procrastinating? The best.

Also, the forum idea that's been passed around is a good one! I love the open threads, but I feel like people stop commenting after like, 8pm EST, and then it's dead silent and sadness. Waaaaay back in the non-horrid Jezebel days of yore, the Groupthink community was one of the best parts (before the crazy! and the drama! could we leave that out?), and it would be fantastic to have something like that here, too.

staplehere

Long time lurker, first time poster, hello The Hairpin.
Like most of the other commenters, I really love the advice columns, the comics, and the unique posts that you read and you're like "I don't know what just happened, but I like it."
A thing I'd like to see is something along the lines of a "Get through this" column, featuring tough things that people have been through, such as Eating Disorders, Deaths in the family, Self Harm, etc. I like when the Pin gets serious sometimes.
More original stories/prose would be awesome, too.
Also, since the Pin is mostly adults, I don't know if you'd want a teenagers perspective, but I could submit my personal self harm/recovery story, or my SLAM poetry/prose. I don't want to infiltrate a Big Girls Only club uninvited, and I also don't know if poetry/prose is a thing on here?
(I sound really formal, because I want to make a good impression? I promise I don't usually talk this weird.)

EpWs

@staplehere Oh shit, am I an adult? *panic* Yes, teenagers, please! In fact, I'd call for more submissions from all ages. (Also, hello! Hooray for you being here! Relax, we're pretty chill.)

There was some talk of slam poetry up-thread, led by our very own Femme Cassidy aka A Queer Chick, who is awesome. So yes, it can and should be a thing here!

Craftastrophies

@staplehere I would be down for some more dark stuff on the 'pin. It's there, it's part of our lives, it's part of our friend's and families lives. I would be interested in reading your self harm recovery story, and Lucia has mentioned eating disorders before. I don't want it to be all crying in the work bathroom, all the time, but I would definitely like those stories to be a part of this place, if Edith et al thinks that's ok.

automaticdoor

@staplehere wayyyyy back in August I got a blessing from Our Lady of the MSPaint Art to write a piece on my mental illness issues. um, that hasn't happened yet (GUESS WHY, HOW APPROPRIATE) but it will! my goal is to get it done as soon as my new anti-depressants kick in.

Craftastrophies

@automaticdoor I endorse this. And I also endorse you not feeling bad about not having gotten to it yet.

miwome

@automaticdoor I second @Craftastrophies. I, A Bipolar Person, support this notion! And getting things done in one's own time. And finding the right meds.

staplehere

@Craftastrophies Yeah, I wouldn't imagine it being all "and then I cried and everything was terrible." I was thinking more "Fuck yeah, recovery is awesome!"
(Also, is there any way to know if someone replied to a thread besides email?)

Craftastrophies

@staplehere I don't know, I don't mind a bit of 'and then I cried and everything was terrible', because sometimes it is. As long as it has a 'fuck yeah, recovery' on the end - because I think that's maybe the most important message, that even when things are terrible and you think they are going to be that way forever, they can get better. And then you have this whole wonderful life that past-you thought you could never have/didn't deserve, and it turns out you can, and you do! And then you are maybe even (gasp!) happy.

Um, I don't mean to take over your story :P

I don't think so. I know some people go back to the article and ctrl+f their own name, and manually look at the threads? But I don't think there's a sub-thread rss or anything. Anyone else?

automaticdoor

@miwome I am also A Bipolar Person! It will be 5 years PD (Post Diagnosis) in April. I do sort of feel like my life has a before and after to it, mostly in terms of, like, knowing WHY I feel the way I do and that there's a name for it, and it's not me being a terrible person.

@Craftastrophies Thank you for endorsing my refusal to feel too terribly about it! I'm trying not to feel guilty about failing to complete things that aren't essential things. Also, to you and @staplehere, I don't know of any other way to know if people replied to threads.

L M
L M

@Craftastrophies yeahhhh that idea got shut down. sadly.

miwome

@Lucia Martinez :( I would have been interested.

L M
L M

@miwome oh look, here you go! xo

automaticdoor

@Lucia Martinez Thank you for sharing that link again. I'm sad that it's not going to see the Pin as an audience. ♥

Princess Slayer

I loved F/M/K so muuuhhuhhhuhhccchhh and I miss it!

kinglet749@twitter

SECOND mouthmowski Ask Twin Nurses! All the advice columns. Love.
And the dark stuff.
And the weird sciency stuff.
Fashion doesn't make us smarter; studying celebrities doesn't make us smarter.
Music and intelligent weirdness does.
Also, a plea to use the question mark only when called for. I feel there's this thing where suddenly everyone feels every sentence needs to end in one? And I don't get it? And it's like really annoying???

troubleminx

I started following the Hairpin because of the old FMK series (specifically the Anthony Bourdain/Hugh Laurie/Rahm Emanuel one, which is perhaps the most perfect thing I have ever read on the internet), but there haven't been any since I started reading regularly. Please bring it back!

AnalogMetronome

More Bach! More classical music! Ask a Musicologist! WHO'S WITH ME!?

*crickets*

miwome

@MademoiselleML ASK A MUSICOLOGIST OMG YES YES YES. I am soooo into analysis of music across cultures! SO INTO IT.

I bite my thumb at your crickets.

@MademoiselleML I AM! I AM WITH YOU.

atipofthehat

@MademoiselleML

Yes! And even folk music.

dj pomegranate

@MademoiselleML This is a great idea! Love it!

elaurad

More Jane! More Jane! I need her to tell me more about how to be a girl!

sceps yarx

I wish we could have our own comments page for all articles crosslinked from The Awl. I love to read them, but I always wish they could be subjected to the same vigorous 'Pin treatment!

Piefingers@twitter

Again I'll say Lindsey Leonard. All the things that everyone has suggested but with Lindsey Leonard addressing them, weird Bjork-accented, all about the grocerrreee stoh-ohr, college-radio style like she did in the How To Ace a Job Interview post. Please. Please! Also I will write about my best times GOING to the roller derby and maybe make up a whole bunch of roller derby names if anyone wants me to.

Piefingers@twitter

Oh and the historical "Is Your Man a Scrub?" ones. Those are pretty fantastic.

miwome

@Piefingers@twitter LORD YES. I had forgotten about them, it's been so long, but I LOVE those.

statistics_lie

More music coverage! Not just posting songs! Please more excruciatingly long articles about music. And BRING BACK RELATIONSHAPES

miwome

@statistics_lie Agree! I would like some of the Hairpin's perspectives on the music sometimes, not just the Look over here! thing we have going on now. Although I'd rather have what we have now than nothing.

Debris

If Esther could please draw me a League of Ordinary Ladies every single day, I don't that's asking too much, thank you.

cakewinner

Agreed on Personal Bests, Ask a(n) [insert profession] (especially the dual bitter and content perspectives, and I'd love a good variety-- not all academics and professionals), Reading Between the Texts, sex stories, how-to tech stuff (especially photoshop and graphic design stuff!) and anything Jane.

I could write profiles of awesome lady scientists (mostly in biology).

cherrispryte