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Wednesday, February 8, 2012

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Beauty Q&A: Bullet Bras, Rancid Perfume, and Mascary

I'm a lady with some disproportionately tiny boobs (I've got HIPS). This is fine, I'm not interested in surgical alteration or anything. Usually, I just wear bras with a little oomph, or try to make them sing with their shape. I have an ill-fitted hand-me-down vintage bra that gives me pointy awesome sweater boobs. I've had enough fun wearing it that I'd like to invest in one that actually fits. So, two questions:

1. Is it ridiculous for a 21st-century woman to be walking around with boobs like Peggy from Mad Men?

2. If not, where can I buy a new bra that offers the shape I'm looking for? It doesn't need to be pretty; it can be a 100% granny bra as far as I'm concerned. It's all about the shape under shirts. Do they MAKE those now, or should l just resort to hunting on eBay for authentic vintage bras that may or may not fit based on 2012 standards?

You are my favorite. We need to hear more about this hand-me-down bra.

First, no it's never ridiculous to emulate one of the hottest looks of all time. There are many reasons we love watching Mad Men (how do you type that thing where you sneeze and say "Jon Hamm" at the same time?), inlcuding that we love watching boobs look ridiculously gorgeous under "modest" sweaters and dresses. Sorry, but it's true. This is a bold look nowadays, but if you're willing to do it, by all means, please, and thank you.

And you're in luck: there are plenty of companies out there making what you want, brand-spanking-new. They go by a bunch of names, but for internet searchability, here's what to look for: the more obvious version — obvious to the viewer, that is — is called a "bullet bra." Here are a bunch in the $40 range. The less extreme, softer, more dowdy (as if!) looking version is a "conical bra." If you plan to drop a bunch of change at one time on some new ones, The Lingerie Addict rounds up online lingerie sales and coupon codes each week, so check in over there to see if you can save some dough.

Do I really have to use nice shampoo/conditioner/hair product, or can I keep using Suave/drug store brand/whatever's on sale? Does it really make a difference? If yes, what are the most affordable awesome brands I should try?

You don't ever have to do anything you don't want to do. You definitely don't have to use expensive fancy hair products if you're happy with your hair. You didn't say anything about the condition of your hair or being bummed out by it or anything like that, so I think you should totally just keep doing what you're doing. Save that cash and get an awesome silk turban for your rare "bad" hair day.

However... yes, it really does make a difference. Ah! I HATE that I just told you that! You are perfect and happy, just pretend you never read that. Orrr... keep reading? Here are the benefits I've personally gotten  from using higher quality, usually more expensive hair products: shinier yet somehow bouncier, lighter hair. Hair that doesn't get oily as quickly so I can go longer between washes. (Grrr, Color Vive shampoo! I see you tryna mess up my sleepover.) Less product needed for the same or better results. Color treatments last longer. Styles hold longer and are less flakey/crunchy.

Of course there are exceptions — for example, I like a lot of Garnier products, and they're cheap as hell. For the most part, though, there are a million fancier brands that run roughly in the $10-25 range per product. I generally dig Bumble & Bumble and Frederic Fekkai, but I have random products I love from brands like Ojon, Serge Normant, and Rusk that I've picked up on clearance or as a freebie at the checkout at Sephora. If you're down to experiment, go to CVS and choose a few items from whatever is on sale — and there is always something on sale in that weird little salon brand section of the hair care aisle. (It's weird that they sell salon-only brands there, right? What about the warnings on the bottles!?) Honestly, experience will be your best indicator — just don't jump right to the $60 Kerastase. That stuff never feels worth it to me.

I love my perfume. I mean I really love it. It's Michael Kors by Michael Kors. It is my favorite smell (aside from my husband's cologne — Issey Miyake!) in the whole wide world. I wear it almost every day for every occasion. However, that is apparently not enough? I keep going down in bottle size because before I'm through the whole bottle, it goes bad. I don't know what the statute of scentitations is for perfumes, but I know this smell, so I know when it's not right. After about a year it get this funky, rubbing alcohol-y, cheap odor to it. I buy a new one and sure enough, it smells like it should. I have started buying the roll-on sample-size from Sephora because it's just about the amount I can use before it goes bad. I know perfumes are oils and oils can go rancid, so what do I do? Freezer? What? How do I keep my perfume smelling the way it should?

For this answer we turn to my perfume obsessed homegirl, Rookie editorial director, Anaheed Alani:

Perfume nerds will sometimes tell you that you should keep your perfume in your REFRIGERATOR but I am not going to tell you that, because that is insane; you should keep FOOD and WINE in your refrigerator. The thing that turned your perfume bad probably isn't heat, anyway (unless you store it in the oven or something) — it's light. Direct light KILLS perfume. I don't know why, but I'm going to guess it's because of science and molecules. Buy your gigantor thing of Michael Kors perfume and keep it in a dark closet or drawer. I have like 70 bottles of perfume (seriously) and I keep them in a closet and they never go bad. Also: PLEASE DO NOT WEAR MICHAEL KORS BY MICHAEL KORS TO WORK AS IT IS SOOO STRONG AND THE PERSON WHO SITS NEXT TO YOU MAYBE DOESN'T NEED TO SMELL IT ALL DAY. (Even though it smells nice. Tuberose-y!)

Love,
Anaheed

WHERE do I get that shirt Kristen Bell wore on the Ellen show when she was talking about sloths?

It's a Rebecca Taylor Ikat Heart Print blouse and it's apparently gone from our universe. But! There's a dress version and a tank in limited sizes. They are all too much money though. Okay, maybe not the dress. The dress is pretty great actually, but that's not what you came here for! You came for the blouse so here are two lookalikes, both reasonably under $60.

I'm wondering about mascara on blondes. I always find it looks very strange to me when my blonde friends wear dark mascara. Why they do this to themselves? I mean, obviously they do it cause it makes them feel pretty, but it looks so bizarre to me.

And then I wonder, what are some of the things that I do that make me feel pretty but are misguided appropriations of looks that were meant for someone with different features? Maybe this could make an interesting an open thread? Or maybe it's just mean to share such judgements and we should all be like "whatever makes YOU feel good — go for it, girl." However, this is the make-up issue that plagues me most — how much of tending to oneself by altering one's appearance is done in order to "make someone feel pretty and put together," and how much actually makes one look more striking in the way intended.

Great idea: A Beauty Q&A open thread! Can anyone guess where I lean regarding the first issue she raises?

Previously: Freeboobing and Cute Pajamas.

Do you have a question for Jane?



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Party Falcon

Honest question for Mascara on Blondes Questioner: What other options should we consider? I've never considered anything else?

Ophelia

@Party Falcon I'm a redhead, and I wear mascara, I just wear the brown kind when I'm not trying to be super-dramatic?

cuminafterall

@Party Falcon My blonde(r) sister uses brown mascara-- I guess it's less harsh than black? Maybe you're supposed to just curl your eyelashes? I don't know. My hair is light brown/dark blond and I wear black mascara and I think it looks fine. I don't wear a lot of other dark eye makeup, though.

barbara millicent roberts

@Party Falcon, I'm blonde and I wear brown mascara for daytime. I feel like black looks really harsh with my fair skin & hair. But I have no prejudice against black mascara on other people, blonde or otherwise :)

Party Falcon

@Ophelia But is the brown kind really less... well, just less? Every brown I've tried still is kind of THERE? Even when I go for a brown-brown and not black-brown.

But maybe it looks different from the side / not in a mirror?

But if that's the case, what good is my makeup table/three-way mirror/fantastic lighting if it can't show me what I would look like to someone else?

plonk

@Ophelia there's also such a RANGE of being-a-blonde-ness. i'm blonde with dark eyebrows, so black mascara is not out-of-the-ordinary noticeable. so i don't think the specific example raised in the question is useful to discuss abstractly.
but the spirit of the question, i think, is somewhat about the extent to which the point of makeup is costuming versus actual, like, correction. i tend to lean toward the former (within reason, of course (with "reason," i guess, determined entirely on a case-by-case basis, thus not actually answering the LW's question)). it's just fun to a) draw on your face and b) have a physical way of putting your game face on.

Ophelia

@Party Falcon Yeah...it definitely still shows up on me, but not quite in the same KAPOW! way that black does? But while I'm pale, my hair/eyebrows are getting darker as I get older, so it clearly will vary for me vs. a very pale blond? That said, I agree with @plonk - it all depends on what you're DOING with the makeup.

Judith Slutler

@Party Falcon Well, I am a super-pale redhead and when I want to use mascara I definitely use brown only. I think the difference between brown and black is pretty big.

raised amongst catalogs

@Party Falcon I said this way down below in the thread (and then deleted it because I am saying it here), but charcoal is kind of amazing for blond(e) ladies.

Dancercise

I agree. I am (well, was, I guess - I started dying my hair darker recently) blonde and prefer brown mascara and eyeliner for a more subtle look. Honestly, though, I think eyebrows make a huge difference. Very light blondes with blonde eyebrows can sometimes look a little, shall we say, unbalanced with thick black mascara and/or eyeliner. Defining the brows a little can make a big difference.

CheeseWizard

@Party Falcon I'm a blonde, with transparent eyelashes, and if I don't wear some sort of mascara I look like a naked mole rat. I always go for jet black though, maybe because I don't want to look like a naked mole rat as much as possible?? I just try to not pile it on - spider lashes are not for me.

Party Falcon

@thread Maybe it's the difference between warm and cool toned blondes/redheads? Like, black mascara really sticks out on warm toned, light headed girls? But not so much on cool tones?

I am naturally as ashed-out and ice princess-y as can be. Brown, especially warm brown, isn't usually my friend. So maybe that's why the brown mascara thing doesn't really show up? Except that doesn't make sense in a color-way? I don't know.

Jane? Help?

(And I still would LOVE to hear from the LW!! )

itiresias

@Party Falcon I have darker blonde hair and brown eyebrows, and always used brown mascara because my mom told me I was supposed to at a young age. Recently, I've become lazy and buy black sometimes. I don't think it makes a huge difference.

My eyelashes are naturally the same blonde as my hair, however, so with no mascara, it just looks like I don't have any. I like mascara for that reason, even wearing a little bit transforms my face a lot. And without it, in my opinion, I always look more tired.

Nutmeg

@Emmanuelle Cunt My mom has light brown hair but short/light lashes, and she only uses brown mascara. I have long/dark lashes, so I can't get away with brown but it works well on her because of her lashes.

Party Falcon

BTW - Party Falcon has always and will always love heavy black mascara, liquid eyeliner (top lid only) and the occasional false lash. Blonde feathers be damned.

gobblegirl

@Party Falcon I think the important bit if you have blonde eyelashes, whichever dark colour you choose, is to make sure that you get full coverage. I have seen a lot of blondes with mascara that only starts halfway up their lashes, and the constrast looks sort of strange/lazy.

LRMG

@Party Falcon I agreeeee!!! I am a light blonde, with very pale skin and blue eyes. I only ever get blackest black most black black hole of black mascara. I think it looks good and I'm not ever trying to pretend "oh this old face, nothing on it!" I think it draws extra attention to my eyes. This is the first ever time I've ever heard this and so maybe this is only something that annoys the questioner??

LRMG

@gobblegirl Yeah good point, but don't you have to be reallllyyyyy close? I mean when I'm up close to some ladies I notice some I guess you would call them make up "errors" but unless its lipstick on the teeth or mascara smudges I keep that to myself.

emilylou

@Party Falcon My mom and I are both blonde. She tried to teach me to use brown mascara when I was first using makeup in high school. But pretty soon I was like "OH HELL NO," went straight to the "very black" shades of mascara, and never looked back.

Of course, my favorite style icons are Nico and Edie Sedgwick, so clearly there is a certain look I prefer.

queenieliz

@vanillawaif charcoal as in the blacky/grey metallic shade usually named thusly, or as in real charcoal which is generally matte black? this always confuses me...

maevemealone

@LRMG Are we twins? I'm the same. I'm on a constant search for a tar black mascara that sucks in the light of distant stars and I wear it everyday. And I have blonde hair, blue eyes and fair skin. I also wear eyeliner and shadow, so clearly I'm not going for a natural look. If people have a problem seeing a few bare blonde lashes,(not on me, never on me) I will gladly turn their attention to the woman, with dark hair, on my train applying her twentieth gloppy coat of mascara and fifth coat of sticky lipstick.

Tropical Iceland

@Party Falcon I think the deciding factor is eyebrow color. Dark eyes and dark eyebrows stand out really beautifully against blonde hair, but if your eyes are darker than your eyebrows it kind of makes your eyebrows disappear.

I keep almost buying purple mascara or eyeliner cause they're supposed to look really great with hazel eyes, but I always chicken out because black is nice and safe.

queenieliz

@Tropical Iceland I find that most purple eyeliners are so blacked out that they just barely read as purple on the eye, this is why I have a huge collection of them, I am always hoping to find the one that actually looks purple when I have it on, without being too light and pink looking.

Tropical Iceland

@queenieliz Maybe a purple eyeshadow? I'm sure I've seen some girls with purple eyeshadow, which you could just use as a liner.

emilylou

@queenieliz Yeah! @Tropical Iceland, and all other ladies experimenting with purple, check out the Urban Decay 24/7 eyeliners. I love them. The purple one is great, and dark enough that it's not like "OMG PURPLE."

Also, I'm a big fan of the teal one. I put a super thick layer of it on my top lid... followed by LOTS AND LOTS OF JET BLACK EYELINER on both the top and bottom lashes, and it looks 60s badass. On me and my long, blondie hair.

Owning. It.

Flies in my eyes

@Party Falcon I love purple liner! An dark eggplant gives it an earthy color that doesn't feel to harsh. I suggest trying it on just the top lid and keep it soft and smudgy, with a light neutral shade on top. This gives a little contrast to make the liner pop, yet the makeup still looks natural and pretty.

queenieliz

@Tropical Iceland great idea! I have a few violet eyeshadows. When I can afford to order it Inglot has a purple creme liner that looks like a good purple too.

Feminist Killjoy

@Party Falcon COLORED MASCARA! Like purple or blue. Super subtle but also AMAZING! I have hazel eyes and alternate blue/purple mascara, and sometimes (this is about to get really braggy so sorry) I notice people staring at my eyes (not kidding) and I just look at them and go "blue mascara" and they're like "OH I WAS WONDERING WHY THEY LOOK SO AMAZING." Anyway, well worth the $28 per tube...I pile it on and a tube still lasts me a year or so (gross? Don't care...).

raised amongst catalogs

@queenieliz Oh, you make such an excellent point! I meant the dark gray that is not quite black. I keep forgetting that there is such a thing as real charcoal because I've been using that term to refer to dark gray for so long!

queenieliz

@Rosemary McClure I have a horrible memory of having an "Electric Blue" mascara way back in Jr High, and having my then best friend tell me I looked like a freak wearing it...

miwome

@Tropical Iceland Purple eyeshadow-as-eyeliner is basically my go-to! I am dark-haired and brown-eyed, not a blonde, but I'm just piping up to say as far as I can tell it looks good on EVERYONE. I also find it seems to stand out actually more than black or brown against my (dark) eyelashes? I dunno. But I love it! I have one of those round CVS two-color palettes where one side is darkish purple and the other side is a sort of purply gold and I think I would die without it.

queenieliz

@miwome Ohhh! More details please! Purple and gold are my two favorite colors together. Do you mean one of the L'oreal eyeshadow duos? I use to have one that was gold and daek purple

Waiting

@Party Falcon tons of people have already answered but as a fair skin and haired person, I will say that what makes the difference is not the color of the mascara but the brand and the wand. If you get a crappy drugstore mascara that goes on super dark and chunky, it generally looks tacky during the day on me. However, I have Clinique and Lancome mascaras both in black, and they go on very delicately, so the black looks nice. *shrug*

cosmeticslovingattorney

@Party Falcon I work in cosmetics and while currently brunette, I used to rock the golden blonde 'do -- here's what I think- often when my other blonde or light-haired friends pile on too much dark EYELINER, not mascara, is when things look a little "intense"-- I have always gone with jet black mascara, and know several blondes/redheads/lite skinned ladies who do it beautifully- but NAVY is also a good option that is not as harsh as black and can still look nice without being too dark (or weird electric blue).

miwome

@queenieliz It's this one, and it's my life. You can't tell that well from the picture, but the gold is almost iridescent so you get little hints of purple from it, and yet it goes on pretty subtle. Come to think of it, I should buy like six of these now against they day when they (gulp) discontinue it.

Also! Make sure, if you're getting it, you get it in Concentrated! These eyeshadows come in Concentrated, Matte, Metallic, and Bright (basically, just categories to confuse you into buying more stuff), but there is a difference, and this one is Concentrated.

queenieliz

@miwome AHH I knew IT! That's exactly the one I thought of when you described it...I threw it away! Because it was old! But now apparently eyeshadow doesn't really go bad, because it is a powder? And bacteria need moisture to live? Ugh!
I know CVS has had a lot of those L'oreal duos on clearance lately, hopefully this one! Payday can not come fast enough this week....

werewolfbarmitzvah

@emilylouise YEEEEEEEEEES. I live on those Urban Decay 24/7 pencils (the big thick ones! I can never get skinny eye pencils to work properly without almost poking my eyeballs out), and the purple one is GREAT (as a pale blue-eyed person, I mainly stick to purple and brown lately). And I love that they stay put and don't wind up all over your face. I used to use the Benefit "Bad Gal" eyeliner crayon because I thought it would make ME look like a "bad gal" instead of like Little Bo Peep (it did not make me look like a bad gal in any way, sadly), and it always wound up all over my face.

oboe-d-amore

@queenieliz Prestige (I got it at CVS) makes a great purple liquid liner. It's purple enough that you notice the color, but still subtle enough for everyday usage. They do a bunch of other colors as well.

For a similar effect, but sort of more brown or green, I love Clinique's "creme shaper" in "Egyptian".

(I naturally have dark blond hair, very pale skin, and very dark eyebrows, and these work with my natural coloring and my very red henna-dyed hair.)

emilylou

@werewolfbarmitzvah See, I'm the opposite, I need the skinny eyeliners! The thick ones get all over my face! And I used to loooove Benefit, I tried their Bag Gal eyeliner as well, but to no avail. Did you ever use their Show-Offs? They used to be one of my favorite things ever, but according to The Internet, they are now discontinued?! :( Bummer.

miwome

@emilylouise @werewolfbarmitzvah I've given up on eyeliner pencils altogether. I use a wet brush to basically make liquid eyeliner out of the eyeshadows I like, and I have never looked back. (It seems different from liquid liner, somehow? Stays put better/dries faster? I dunno.)

mlle.gateau

@Party Falcon OMG. I am a (light/gingery) redhead with blonde lashes and blonde brows, and I GO TO TOWN with black mascara and liner. I LOVE IT. I also color my brows in with that Anastasia powder in Strawburn (thanks, Jane!) which makes it less severe, and I think it's a gorgeous, dramatic look that really makes my eyes pop, and no one has/will ever convince me otherwise.

McC@twitter

@Party Falcon Lash tint. As in, get your eyelashes dyed black. Lasts over a month, looks amazing. Costs $25 at the salon I go to. WORTH TWICE AS MUCH!

the angry little raincloud

@queenieliz Me, too! I have a growing collection of purple eyeliners and shadows, all of which are either too black or just not purple enough. I'm saving my money for the Laura Mercier Caviar Stick in Plum, hoping it will be the one (the Caviar Stick in Amethyst is insanely gorgeous).

Oh, and yes, purple goes great with hazel eyes. I'm even getting out of my black clothes rut and wearing purple sweaters, too.

Myrtle

@LRMG How do you feel about the Brittney Spears look? My hair is the same color as fishing line- my friend calls me "pigment challenged" but damn it's hard to find brown mascara in SoCal. MAC made a gorgeous navy mascara, but it is no more, despite my pleading. I usually have to settle for a brown/black, but yeah, I'd say the lighter color looks "better", the term being relative to one's ability to own that shit and rockit.

tiptoemammal

@Party Falcon: I KNOW THE ANSWER! And I can't even wait to read the other comments before I tell you. I just started using YSL mascara in BURGUNDY, which is a purpley-brown color that looks great with my pale skin/green eyes/light hair and doesn't stand out as being a color-mascara (they have a violet one if that's your thing.) I love it!

Feminist Killjoy

@queenieliz hahaha i think this one is dark enough that it doesn't look freaky?

panderbear

I've never minded blondes with mascara UNLESS it's super spidery and cakey on and all over their lower lashes too. But then again, I just dont like super spidery lashes, and it's just more obvious on Blondes

Hellcat

@panderbear Yeah, agreed. I fight like a monster to avoid even the tiniest clump of only a few lashes. I just don't know what possesses some people to do that crunchy-clumpy thing; I feel like you'd see your own eyelashes all day.

I am a faux blond (was a real one until my late 20s; to be honest, I am not actually certain what color my current natural hair would be) with dark blond/light brown eyebrows and dark eyelashes with blond ends. So, though I don't bother with mascara for work, I do use it for going out or it looks like I have really short eyelashes (which is so mean because I do not; they're just half-invisible, those jerks!). I find that black and brown both work well for my purposes (I think... the letter is making me wonder now!), and that might be because I my militant clumpfreeness. The LW doesn't mention whether her friends wear tons and tons of black, or a really thick formula. Mine is a very thin (if that's the right word in this case) consistency that is good for length but probably wouldn't do much in the way of thickening, if that makes a difference.

Party Falcon

There is nothing as striking and awe-inspiring as seeing a well-defined and intentional bust shape under a modest sweater out in the wild. Especially combined with excellent posture. Tell me you don't look twice? I always do.

SarahP

@Party Falcon Iiiiii think I look twice regardless. BUT LW, rock those bullet bras. Passersby will not think "haha that is so passe," they will think "BABE."

(In a non-objectifying, "She looks cool, I wonder what kinds of books she reads" way.)

anachronistique

@Party Falcon This made me look down at my besweatered rack, sigh, and go calculate how much I could feasibly spend on new bras.

dj pomegranate

@anachronistique Agree. I want to go bullet bra shopping with other 'Pinners now.

Lily Rowan

I totally want a bullet bra now!!

gigglefest

@Lily Rowan I was actually handed-down a bullet bra ! I got it from a friend who has much larger bosoms than I, and the whole thing is white lace but it has a definite conical shape and I LOVE it. It's so great to wear under sweaters, specifically. (The whole bra itself kind of.... wraps all the way around my boobs so you can see it under pretty much any neckline that isn't a crewneck or a boatneck) It's awesome, though

Gracefully and Grandly

Maybe this falls under the 'duh' category, but seriously smell any new fancy shampoo/conditioner you're trying for the first time before you buy it. I have a full bottle of fancy conditioner sitting in my shower that smells exactly like berry tums because I didn't do a pre buying sniff. Nobody wants antacid scented hair...

hulia

@ferdinand the bull And consider bringing along the person you find yourself sleeping next to, as otherwise you run the risk of learning too late that he or she finds that the "herbal" in herbal essences smells vaguely like manure.

thebestjasmine

@ferdinand the bull I have some super fancy conditioner (luckily, that I got for free) that smells just like cigarette smoke, which makes me gag.

Megasus

@thebestjasmine That sucks! It makes me nauseated.

Hellcat

@ferdinand the bull My BF would probably fall in love with you if you used it. He has a strange fixation with berry Tums. Or any Tums, for that matter.

Gracefully and Grandly

@Hellcat Well I never thought I'd be recommending it, but if you're interested here's the conditioner: http://www.burtsbees.com/natural-products/hair-conditioners/very-volumizing-pomegranate-soy-conditioner.html

Valentine's Day surprise for the BF?

Hellcat

@ferdinand the bull HA! Thanks... but I don't think I want to smell like Tums (though we'd match, I guess; if it's not bourbon I smell from him, it's often Tums). Maybe I should stash some of this conditioner just in case his interest begins to wane? Ha!

BoozinSusan

@hulia Late to the party, but bringing up Herbal Essences brought me back to circa 1999/2000 in a BIG WAY. Those "Yes!" commercials, that made my Catholic-raised self blush whenever they came on? Whew.

Onymous

I find with shampoo you can pretty much buy whatever is not too cheap. Conditioner though, particularly if you have hair that ends up in knots a lot, is absolutely worth going up a price bracket. An extra couple dollars a bottle means I can actually comb my hair after I've been driving with the window down, or been hiking for a couple days.

OhShesArtsy

@Onymous I use baking soda to wash my hair, it's the only thing that doesn't make my crazy half wavy, half curly hair goes on a frizz fest. I buy a nice conditioner, though. I've tried the whole no-poo version with the Apple Cider Vinegar, it just makes my hair super soft but really puffy. I only condition twice a week or so, so the nice stuff really lasts.

Basically: Yes, splurge on your conditioner. DO IT.

Inkling

@OhShesArtsy
I wash my hair with baking soda and do a vinegar rinse! I'm a super greasy human, so I can just barely shower every other day, but the vinegar is making my hair so soft and glossy and shiny. I love it. Love it love it.

Dancercise

@OhShesArtsy
Please explain baking soda hair-washing. I've been intrigued by this idea for a while now, but haven't gotten around to it. Since I just bought 13 pounds of baking soda at Costco, this might be a good time to try it out! What exactly do you do, and how often?

Megasus

@Onymous It's true, I just got HerCut light conditioner (for 8 bucks though wooooo!) and it is vastly superior to any other conditioner I've used for fine hair. Plus no parabens woooooo!

slutberry

@Dancersize Preliminary warning: for the first week or ten days or even two weeks, you are going to think it doesn't work. Your hair will be greasy. It may really freak you out. It is because your scalp needs to readjust.

Anyway: I suggest going a week without washing your hair before you start the baking soda/vinegar thing.

Take a bit of baking soda in your hand and mix it into a paste witha bit of water. Scrub it through your hair like shampoo. It won't froth, don't worry.

Rinse it out thoroughly.

Take a few tablespoons of apple cider vinegar (like, a quarter cup?) and dilute it with warm water. Use a non-breakable cup, it is really not fun to have it slip and then have your tub covered in glass shards while you are naked. Work the diluted apple cider vinegar through your hair and leave it for a while, while you wash your body or, y'know, do whatever you do in the shower. Then rinse it out. You are done.

I find that using unfiltered apple cider vinegar reduces the lingering vinegar smell quite a lot.

And it will make your hair SO shiny and bouncy, and your scalp so happy! And you can save up your shampoo money and get pretty vintage cone bras!

OhShesArtsy

@Dancersize Teffodee beat me there. That exactly. The great thing is that you can adjust how much baking soda and how concentrated the ACV is. I wash mine twice a week in the Winter and three to four times in the Summer.

The vinegar didn't work for me, but most people I know who do this love it, too.

Dancercise

@teffodee @OhShesArtsy
Thank you both! My biggest concern is how well this stuff takes product out of your hair. I wear mousse on a regular basis. Plus, I'm a ballroom dancer, so about 10 times a year I get SOAKED in hairspray. Something tells me that baking soda would just sort of sit on my head and laugh at me if I tried to attack that much hairspray with it.

slutberry

@Dancersize Dude. Yes. It will destroy that product, and leave your hair alone.

I use baking soda to clean anything I can't get off of a surface off. It cuts grease, grime, cooked on pot scum (uh, pot as in the cooking implement, not the drug)... without hurting things. IT IS AMAZING.

OhShesArtsy

@Dancersize When I wear a lot of product, I make a heavy paste of baking soda and scrub from roots to tips, rinse, and do it over again. I've never been unable to get something out of my hair. If you use something like Elmer's Glue and saw dust (... I'm not the only one who has done this, right?) You may have some trouble. I keep a cheap bottle of Suave around as my "just in case" insurance.

Dancercise

@OhShesArtsy @teffodee
You two are my favorites today.

MilesofMountains

@teffodee Do I have to go a full week without washing my hair before I start? I have really greasy, really fine hair. By the end of Day 2 of no washing, my hair is so oily I can style it like I have gel in it. I've never ever gone more than that without washing my hair but I suspect I won't be able to leave the house for most of that week and my work might have a problem with that.

OhShesArtsy

@MilesofMountains Honestly, I never went the week without washing. I just started using baking soda instead of shampoo. I'm not good at following directions that inconvenience me.

Feminist Killjoy

@MilesofMountains you need dry shampoo!

pterodactgirl

@MilesofMountains Ugh. Yes. I'd love to do this too, but I don't think I could go a week without washing my hair. My roommate has really really thick hair and she only washes it every 3 days and it looks great. Whereas basically ever since I hit puberty I've needed to wash my thin wispy hair every 36 hours or so or I turn into a grease pumpkin. Sigh.

Also, yes to the nicer conditioners. The really cheap ones (sneezeSUAVEsneeze) do absolutely nothing to my tangles. Basically I have no business on this thread except to say that I am jealous of you better-haired ladies.

Terrifying Wife-Avatar

@Dancersize *ballroom dancer's secret handshake*

That is all.

chevyvan

@teffodee I would like to go the baking soda + vinegar route, but I regularly go to the gym. And that means A.) Sweating...and I don't just sweat a little when I work out. Like, I get completely disgusting. and B.) showering at the gym.

Do y'all ladies have any thoughts on this? I don't think just rinsing with water in the locker room shower is going to cut it, and bringing baking soda and vinegar to the gym seems impractical. Will using regular ol' gym shampoo a few times render the baking soda thing pointless?

kjh45

@Dancersize *second ballroom dancer secret handshake*

I do comp hair as a side job. Put conditioner in your hair before you start constructing your comp hair. Just a liiiiittle bit. Makes it easier to wash out. Doesn't do a lot about the elmer's glued-in rhinestones though.

Hellcat

@pterodactgirl GREASE PUMPKIN! Ahahhahahhaaaaaa! I love that.

bnna

@chevyvan, @everyone, I don't think going a week w/out 'poo is necessary. I didn't, but it is true that it takes a week or so for your scalp to adjust. As its been explained to me (by the internet) traditional shampoo really strips our hair and our scalps tend to overcompensate, meaning when we switch to baking soda we'll be a little greasy until our scalp realizes it can chill.

As far as the gym goes, I think baking soda will handle the sweat grease. I saw a youtube video when I was researching (there are tons of 'poo free tutorials) where the poster kept baking soda and vinegar solution in little condiment-type squirt bottles (http://www.amazon.com/Wilton-6-Ounce-Melting-Decorating-Squeeze/dp/B0000VMBF6/ref=pd_sbs_k_1). I'm too lazy for this, but if you're gym showering you could def just pre-mix your solution and put it in bottles.

ach_so

@Onymous I think you could just rinse after going to the gym. I used to just rinse after Bikram yoga (which is, wow, The Sweatiest Activity Ever) and my hair was fine. Maybe a little greasier than before yoga class, but fine. Try it & see what happens.

EpWs

@everyone I'm on the "I really don't think I can handle the adjustment period" bandwagon. I have super fine fairly thin hair that turns into a grease pumpkin (BEST PHRASE EVER) after 24 hours MAX and it's short enough that I can't just pull it back and wait it out. I want to get to the other side to see what things are like, though!

slutberry

@pterodactgirl Totally not necessary. Just be prepared for your hair to be greasy for the first week or two. I find it adjusts faster when you let it get super greasy first.

Achyvi

@anyone What kinds of conditioner do people like? I've been using Pantene (since my water is stupid hard and wouldn't wash out my no-cone conditioner... sigh), but I still get pretty tangly if I'm not diligent about combing. Foot-long mats = ridonk.

OhShesArtsy

@chevyvan I keep my baking soda in my shower in a little tupperware container. When I used ACV, I kept it already watered down in a cheap little spray bottle in there. The spray bottle probably wouldn't work, but a little tupperware of baking soda and the condiment bottle that @bnna mentioned would work for the gym!

Dancercise

@kjh45 Try false eyelash glue for hair-rhinestones! You have to let it get sticky first, but it holds really well. I've even slept with them in when I competed two days in a row. But then you just pull the rhinestones off and shampoo will take out the glue in the shower!

planforamiracle

@Onymous I've read/heard that another good way to transition is to gradually wash your hair less and incorporate something like Dr. Bronners (pure castile soap, so it seems to still "wash" your hair in the traditional sense, but without harsh detergents like SLS) to dilute your regular shampoo. This is what I'm doing and so far it's going pretty well:
- every 3 days, wash with Dr. Bronner's or sulfate-free shampoo (I've been using Kiehl's Superby Smooth with argan oil but it's soo expensive I cannot buy it again, so I need this to work!) Condition when I wash (I'm into Aveda conditioners because they smell soooo gooood.)

- on days when my hair is not supposed to be washed, but doesn't look how I want it to (or if I've gone running), I'll rinse it in the shower. But not just rinse like I'm pouring water on my head—REALLY scrub/massage with my fingertips *as if* there were lots of nice sudsy shampoo on my head. then light application of conditioner.

- every week or two, I do an ACV rinse (diluted 50/50 with water.) No washing or conditioning at that time.

Next step is to phase out the expensive shampoo, then later on, try baking soda (either in my Dr. B's or alone.) Seems to be going OK so far.. for what it's worth, my hair is approaching shoulder length, fairly fine, but also wavy. I also wear it pretty naturally most of the time (no heat styling, minimal products—I love Kevin Murphy's Motion Lotion; the name cracks me up— and no colour treatments) so maybe that makes a difference?
agh, this got long. hope it helps!

c'est_tout

@The Everpresent Wordsnatcher, I didn't think I could handle the adjustment period either. After about 4 days, I looked like I had been dipped in a bucket of oil, no joke. I was so desperate to remedy the situation and after some searching on the Internets, I found the secret: CORNSTARCH. Here's what I do, and it sounds weird, but my friend recommended I do this with dry shampoo (so now I just switched out dry shampoo with cornstarch): take a little plastic receptacle, such as one you'd find at a fast food restaurant to put your condiments into (with a lid, preferably). Put some cornstarch in there. Take a cheap makeup brush (like one you'd use to put on blush), and dip it into the cornstarch, and then powder your part, basically, or anywhere else that's greasy (I have bangs so I powdered those a lot). I know this sounds truly bizarre, but I was able to go the ENTIRE week without washing my hair (!) and one of my lady coworkers even said, "Hey, how's the no-'poo going? Have you even started it yet? Your hair looks great!" MEANING the cornstarch tricked everyone into thinking my hair wasn't greasy! I'm telling you, it makes going no-'poo so much easier, and it's so worth it in the end. I used to wash my hair every day because it got so greasy, and now I wash once a week (twice if I'm going on a date). Good luck.

KanadrAllegria@twitter

@ all; I'm a bit late to the party, but maybe I can still help someone. I've been no-poo for over a year. I find this site/community http://no-poo.livejournal.com/ incredibly helpful.
I cringe when you guys mentioned using a BS paste, though! That sounds so harsh. I use a little bit of BS in a cup or two of water, pour it on my scalp, scrub/massage, and rinse out with water. It works perfectly fine... and after a while, when your head has started to figure itself out, you'll actually get a bit of a foamy-ness going on, when the BS and the oils on your hair react! It's pretty cool.
The Vinegar rinse is important too, though. BS is very basic, and your head is naturally a bit more acidic. You need to restore that balance after using the BS, which is where the vinegar comes in. Anything slightly acidic will work, though! Citrus juice, diluted in water, tea, vinegar... There are a lot of different ways to make it work, so it takes a bit of experimenting to get it right. Anyway, check out the community, if you're interested in doing No 'Poo! It's definitely the cheapest option for great hair-care.

cmonster

THAT DRESS. I loved the shirt but now I think I will die without the dress. Whyyy do you have to be $300?

OhShesArtsy

@cmonster YES. I NEED IT.

NeverOddOrEven

@cmonster There, there. It's sold out now.

OhShesArtsy

@NeverOddOrEven Now I can pretend that I was totes going to spend that $300 on it. Some one sniped it, clearly.

(Please don't come back in stock, pretty dress. I cannot buy you, you taunt me with your price bracket).

cmonster

@OhShesArtsy @NeverOddorEven waaahhh.

Ginger Slap

I love that someone else finds Peggy from Mad Men as adorable as I do... or at least her breasts.

Stefanie J@twitter

I see a lot of blondes and red-heads with super light lashes and their mascara doesn't go all the way down to the base of them. So maybe that's what the asker was talking about. Either way I think it looks weird! And Jane: lots of the "blondes" looking good in mascara you pointed out aren't natural blondes. And I love Gwyneth but her eyelashes look really weird there.

Party Falcon

@Stefanie J@twitter Which isn't an awesome look. They probably need just a hint of eyeliner or something to get it all together.

And they probably don't do the mascara wiggle at the base because they're afraid of over-makup-ing.

PistolPackinMama

@Party Falcon Yes. I am naturally blonde and have light/thin eyelashes. Mascara all the way to the base, and eyeliner down at the very root helps with that. I wear black and brown/black depending on if I am wearing specs or am going for DRAMA or what.

I did the same when I was blonde.

Mingus_Thurber

@Stefanie J@twitter HA! I am a redhead with transparent eyelashes and I DYE THEM. With 1000 Hours dye, which has somehow not yet rendered me blind or with eye-rotting-off disease.

I originally started dyeing 'em because I couldn't *see* them when they fell into my eyes, and that sucked. Imagine chasing an invisible eyelash around your eye, knowing it's there, and not being able to get to it. I keep it up because it makes mascara application easier.

I like my eyelashes as big and black and thick as a 1960 Chevy, so Mascara Application (Buxom FTW) is kind of a project anyhow.

OhShesArtsy

I don't wear much make up but I do wear clothing that is clearly intended for taller ladies. Tea length skirts are probably my worst sin. I have some very pretty, kind of twee printed cotton skirts that I just love for the Summer that are definitely too long for me and not the type of skirt you ought to wear short. Don't care, they make me feel like a pretty young lady who goes to fancy outdoor tea parties and has witty conversations while looking casually perfect.

roadtrips

@OhShesArtsy I'm the opposite - I'm always convincing myself that my really cute thrift blouse is supposed to be three quarter sleeve. I also don't care and am happy to think of myself as a devil-may-care trendsetter who recklessly rolls up her cuffs and wears children's cardigans with aplomb.

OhShesArtsy

@roadtrips I have no issue with that decision. Thrift stores are the bane of my fashion existance, I almost always go with something that I know is maybe not terribly flattering but I LOVE IT.

I also just don't agree with dressing myself to "look tall". I'm pretty sure that no amount of careful dressing will really hide that I am barely 5'2".

Ophelia

@roadtrips Hah, totally. I can't wear anything vintage except for skirts, unless I'm willing to pretend that the arms and legs are "supposed to be that short."

roadtrips

@Ophelia That is my fashion motto. As in, I try to look "business casual" but always end up more on the spectrum at "orphaned child c. 1938"

frigwiggin

@OhShesArtsy I'm wearing a baby tie right now and I don't even care. A baby tie, as in a tie meant for 6-to-18-month-olds. The manager at the thrift store was so confused as to why I wanted it that he let me have it for free. Shopping outside one's age/size group is the best!

Shayna

@OhShesArtsy Psh. Tea length skirts are classy as fuck on any height. ^.^ Especially when paired with a pair of boots or heels.

allinmycar

@OhShesArtsy Oh yeah on the roll-up. No shirt comes down to my wrist. And aren't arms supposed to be proportionate? Like, your wingspan is supposed to be your height? How are mine shorter?

OhShesArtsy

@allinmycar My sleeves cover my hands unless I scrunch them/roll them up (or hem them. But I never hem my own clothes). UGH, being outside of the "normal" people sizes, amiright?

Related: You never know how dirty everything you touch is until you wear a white sweater that covers your palms. *VOM*

Xanthophyllippa

@allinmycar Are you a T. rex?

sceps yarx

@OhShesArtsy Oh gosh, it's so true. I used to wear all black, and then I dyed my hair dark purple and had to switch to pastels and earth tones (so that I wouldn't look like a hot topic reject). And suddenly it was all so grubby! Get rid of everything, seriously, it's all revolting.

hot dog princess

I think black mascara looks good on blondes! I'm confused why that would look weird, a lot of people have naturally dark eyelashes?

Aubergines

@hot dog princess I totally agree. I think maybe blondes think they look weird. You know, if you wear more makeup than your used to, it looks crazy dramatic.

skippersarah

@hot dog princess I just realized that your name is "hot dog princess." Oh my glob!

Bittersweet

@Aubergines: This is why even though I have dark brown hair and naturally dark brows/lashes, I never wear black eyeliner or mascara. Black looks over-dramatic on me, especially for daytime, and if I overdo it I look like I have two black eyes.

suzabellajones

Lady #1, ASOS makes some very cute bullet bras. I got one last year and it was made out of something slinky, so it might not create as sturdy a shape as the ones Jane linked to. But here's a fun one on super sale:
http://us.asos.com/ASOS-Boudoir-BRIDGITTE-Cut-Out-Bullet-Bra/vwxtu/?iid=1323421&SearchQuery=bullet%20bra&sh=0&pge=0&pgesize=20&sort=-1&clr=Shellpink&mporgp=L0FTT1MvQVNPUy1Cb3Vkb2lyLUJSSURHSVRURS1DdXQtT3V0LUJ1bGxldC1CcmEvUHJvZC8.

lisma

@suzabellajones whoa those make your boobs look like turtles on the half shell.

kadabra

@ginalouise now that you've said that, I had to buy it. I will think, everytime I wear it, 'turtles in a half shell: Turtle Power!' - and I like the idea, so much, of underwear that comes with a theme tune.

fondue with cheddar

@suzabellajones Whoa, that model reminds me of Marguerite Moreau! "I just wanna take him and grab him and fuck his brains out, you know?"

cuminafterall

On Jane's advice I dropped the Pantene (my stylist corroborated the wax-coating story) and bought the salon brand my stylist recommended (Cibu's Shang High, which I feel moderately embarrassed to have in my shower because of the punny/Orientalist name but whatever) and it REALLY makes a difference. My hair tangles a lot less and it doesn't go flat in 4 hours anymore.

I still use Johnson & Johnson baby shampoo once a week to make the fancy salon stuff last a little longer.

roadtrips

@cuminafterall I find myself making really poorly informed choices based on snappy graphic design and enticing names all the time, so it's maybe better that it's the other way around in this case. That said, it is a pretty terrible name.

likethestore

Expensive shampoo, not really worth the price (compare the ingredients lists on a bunch of brands - pretty much the same detergents and chemicals). Expensive conditioner though, absolutely. I have problem hair and I've been on a quest for the ultimate shampoo/conditioner since I was twelve, I've used all the major brands, hippie brands, salon brands, drugstore brands, I probably spent more money on shampoo than tuition. Anyway, all this to say that expensive conditioner is worth it. I use Aveda right now which isn't too bad (I think $18 a bottle here in Canada) and like it a lot.

C.SanDiego

@likethestore My problem is that I can't use shampoo and conditioner that don't match, because I'm psychotic, so even though I know that they're really all the same I end up spending way more on shampoo than I probably should.

I also second the Aveda conditioner, I super like it.

meganmaria

Mascara girl: Is this more of a black-mascara-on-blondes question or all-mascara-on-blondes question? Most of the blondes I know would have no discernible facial features to speak of beyond noses and irises if they didn't do mascara and eyeliner unless you got really close to their faces. Maybe brown is a better option for blondes? I don't know, I'm just spit balling here. But I'm also a brunette who gravitates toward brown eyeliner/mascara, because black seems too harsh, even though it's probably just fine.

Inkling

@meganmaria
Blonde people: where are their faces?

meganmaria

@Inkcrafter This is my entire blonde family:

DenimGlow

Open thread time: I hate eyeliner that's applied only on the lower lid. I suppose it's supposed to make your eyes look smaller (why would you ever want that) but instead you just get beaty-eye syndrom

hot dog princess

@DenimGlow Oh jeeze, I was going to say something about this but I didn't want to sound like I was trying to pick on people! But, really, it looks awful when people put mascara/eyeliner on lower lid only and then let it smudge and leave it all day.

cmonster

@DenimGlow I did that for the longest time in high school and college until one of my roommates said, very loudly and likely for my benefit, exactly what you just did. I look so much better now! But I had no idea that was a thing, and now I wonder what else I do totally wrong, makeup wise.

katerrific

@DenimGlow I hate when otherwise rational ladies mess up their brows! I have several coworkers who are very intelligent, but I want to have a brow intervention with them where I pull them aside and say, "You need to leave those alone for 6 months and then go see a professional who will give you a normal shape."

jennie

@hot dog princess i cannot LIVE without just a little bit of mascara on my bottom lashes. like barely even a coat. it makes your eyes look crazy big. but i agree about the under eye eyeliner. i banned myself from that mess after my first year of college. but i will never, ever let go of my top lid eyeliner. no matter how many times my cousin makes fun of the face i make when applying it.

cuminafterall

@DenimGlow I really really enjoy wearing white eyeliner even though I KNOW it looks bizarre. Sometimes I just want to look bizarre! It's fun.

hot dog princess

@jennie Not hating on wearing mascara on the lower lashes! I actually do this myself sometimes. I've just seen a lot of people where it seems like their routine is basically putting on a ton of eyeliner/mascara under their eyes only, and then they don't keep up with it and it smudges and makes them look tired.

NeverOddOrEven

@DenimGlow Wait- what? This is a thing?

KeLynn

@NeverOddOrEven My thoughts exactly! I've never heard of this. I have no concept of why this would be done.

Tropical Iceland

@DenimGlow I totally did that all through high school because I didn't know how to put it on my top lid. God, if only I had had the hairpin. Even now, I would be lost without Jane.

Hellcat

@hot dog princess I do this too, but just a little that I then use the brush side of that plastic eyebrow brush/comb thing to soften. Somehow a comb (not the one adjacent to the brush, a whole different little metal fold-up comb) is good for the top lashes but does weird things to the bottom ones.

Rookie (not the magazine) (not that there's anything wrong with that)

@Hellcat I use a kajal liner (I think that's what it's called, it's kind of

DenimGlow

@NeverOddOrEven Yes! It's a very, very unfortunate thing. One of my coworkers wears purple eyeliner and only on her lower lid - every. single. day. I want to yell at her every. single. day.

cakewinner

@katerrific Me too! Unfortunately, the person I see doing it most is my mom. she plucks the outside part, leaving a rather short, rectangular shape. I should really teach her how to fix them.

meganmaria

@cuminafterall I do white liner on my bottom water line to help my eyes look bigger. A more skin-toney color is supposed to be better for this, but I have white, so that's what I use.

NeverOddOrEven

@meganmaria I've tried this but there always ends up being little chunks that get stuck on the tops of my bottom lashes, which looks super weird and obvious to me.
Any tricks or tips?

meganmaria

@NeverOddOrEven I try to pull my bottom lid down as far as I can (like when you're a kid and you're trying to scare your friends, siblings, parents, etc.) and I just do a couple quick back and forths on the water line, then a suuuuuuuper light coat of my brown mascara. Like, barely touch the lashes with it. Or (and I haven't tried this yet, but I might give it a shot) take a barely damp Q-tip and run it over the bottom lashes to wipe the white chunkies off. It's like how if you get mascara on your top lid after you already have done your eyeshadow (like I do every day) and you take a barely damp Q-tip and just put it on the mascara dots and twist.

lisma

Jane can you tell us what nail polish color Kristen Bell was wearing while on Ellen? That perfect almost orange-y red that I am dying about?

The Bitchuation

@ginalouise it's very similar to Essie's Clambake, which is my go-to orangey-red color these days. that nail color + pointy sweater bra? INSTANT HOTNESS

lisma

@The Bitchuation I've literally been thinking about that nail color ever since I saw that video (love you Kristen Bell/V. Mars).
Totally going to try out Clambake...which is kind what The Hairpin is, amirite amirite?

nevernude cutoffs

@ginalouise This probably isn't it, but possibly very close? OPI's Big Hair Big Nails or Cajun Shrimp.

chevyvan

@ginalouise OPI's Monsooner or Later is also a really kickass orangy red.

Megasus

@ginalouise Her new show is kind of not grea though. :(

missrubyjones

LETTER WRITER 1: Buy a Flower Bali by Bali bra. That's the bra pictured in the, ahem, "dowdy" link. Best bra ever, period, and gives you very perky, conical but not comical boobs. This is my favorite bra. You can buy them here:
http://www.onehanesplace.com/outlet/bras/bali-bra/flower-bali-underwire-bra

Hurry girl - they're on sale!

LETTER WRITER 2: One of my best friends is a hairdresser, and she uses Finesse. Has for years. The lady who works the chair next to hers won't use anything but Head and Shoulders. They both say shampoo is less important than conditioner; if you have thick, dry, damaged or unruly hair, spring for the more expensive conditioner.

Nutmeg

LW2: I've been getting super into using sulfate-free shampoo/conditioner ever since I quit the no-poo method (I had to wash my hair every day with that or suffer itchy-head, which was less than ideal) and right now I am loving Renpure's stuff (partly because it has cute names like "My Luscious Hair Needs Lift"). It's about $6.50 at my local grocery store, and even though that's more than the $0.99 I used to spend on VO5, I feel like it's worth it, since it lasts about a month on my thick-as-fuck hair.

My other favorite grocery store available brand is Organix, also sulfate-free and the most delicious smells ever.

missrubyjones

@Nutmeg: since your hair and hairwashing situation sounds similar to mine, lol, I have a question: do you use any type of product on your hair to style, and if so, can you get it out of your hair using the sulfate-free products? I've been tempted by Organix several times, but was afraid it wouldn't get all the product out of my hair.

lobsterhug

@Nutmeg Sulfate-free is the best! I like the Giovanni Organic products. I used to get them at Target. Even when I had long hair, a little would go a long way.

Nutmeg

@missrubyjones I almost never use product (I air-dry my hair and that mostly solves my frizzissues; also I am super low-maintenance when it comes to my hair) but the times I've used a product that contains silicone it has washed out without residue.

NeverOddOrEven

@missrubyjones You could always do a Apple Cider Vinegar rinse if you think it's leaving buildup.

Nutmeg

@lobsterhug I was so shocked at how THICK the Renpure shampoo is; I use a quarter-sized amount for my foot-long hair and it's more than enough; I used to use two or three times that when I was using VO5 (same goes for the conditioner; it's thinner than the shampoo but I still end up using less than when I used VO5).

MissMushkila

My favorite is Trader Joe's tea tree tingle shampoo/conditioner. It's cheap (less than 4 dollars) and smells minty and makes me happy.

missrubyjones

@Nutmeg and @NeverOddOrEven: Thanks for the advice. I think I'll try the Organix, with the ACV if I need it!

As for VO5, I'm pretty sure it's 75% water, lol, so it always takes a lot more on the occasions I use it. On the same note, Max (my hairdresser friend), explained to me that that is why the shampoo in salons is always in those big pump thingies - they water it down. So it goes to reason that super cheap shampoo would be more water.

whateverlolawants

@Nutmeg I miss the Vanilla Bean Organix... why did they discontinue it?! :(

Onymous

@Nutmeg Has any one tried the Organix Tea Tree Mint conditioner? How long/strongly does the scent stick around
It sounds wonderful but I don't really like smelling like stuff once I get out of the bathroom.

Nutmeg

@Onymous I've used it, doesn't really stick around long. I can smell it if I stick my nose in my hair but it's faint and fades fast.

:Cinnamon Girl:

@lobsterhug I'm pretty sure that Trader Joe's Tea Tree Tingle shampoo/conditioner is the Giovanni stuff repackaged (TJ's does this). The ingredients are the exact same. Like MissMushkila said, it's only $4 and is THE BOMB. The citrus shampoo/conditioner at TJ's is also pretty great (and even cheaper).

DandelionTacy

@Nutmeg I LOVE Organix! I used to use Lush products but stopped because of the sulfates and parabens.
Within the Organix line, I've noticed a subtle difference between scents. The cocoa butter one tends to make my hair slightly greasier more quickly, while the acai berry and avocado one lasts much longer. My ultimate favorite is the shea butter- so soft and lovely-smelling!

AniaGosia

@.Lauren. Agh! I love TJ's and want the shampoo so badly, but live in the wilderness where there is no TJ's!

Onymous

@Nutmeg Cool, that sounds about right.

lobsterhug

@.Lauren. Oh, that's good to know! I don't live near Target anymore and Whole Foods was the only other place I'd seen it.

Hellcat

@Nutmeg Yes, Organix makes one for keratin-treated hair; it's kind of coconutty! I am sniffing my own freshly washed and dried hair (twice a week here, for anyone who's curious) right now... OH! And it's cheapity-cheap too!

@missrubyjones I use a little bit of product and some hairspray for the static-mayhem days and the Organix seems to get it all out pretty well.

meganmaria

@Nutmeg Yes!!! Renpure! I started using their Argan Oil shampoo/conditioner/treatment and my hair looks great and smells like hotness.

tmsteele2000

I cracked up when I read the response to LW#2 because hair is just so personal and fussy. I've tried so, so many products, including the fancy WEN, which made my hair awesome for about 6 weeks, and then my hair became amazingly damaged and started breaking like crazy. I go back to L'oreal ColorVive again and again and again (after cheating with salon this and organic that). I want something fancier to be "the thing" for my hair, but my hair wants The Vive. It just does. It works the best for me.

OxfordComma

@tmsteele2000 : Oh, man. The Boyfriend's mom kindly sent me a Wen starter kit...and my hair went all horribly flat, greasy, and was totally unmanageable. *grrr*

It's all about finding what works for your hairs.

Hellcat

@OxfordComma I tried the Wen too and it was OK and all but just didn't seem that different than anything I could easily pick up at a store for much less dough.

SuperGogo

Jane! Thank you so much for the shampoo answer. I'm willing to upgrade and experiment with some nicer/more expensive brands that will make my hair shiny and light and wonderful, but most days I use my Salon Selectives and think my hair looks pretty good and I'm so encouraged that no one here has a desire to take away my Grown-Ass Woman card because of it. Thank you!

lobsterhug

Wear whatever mascara you want! God, remember blue mascara? I think there was a resurgence of colored mascaras a few years ago, but sadly it is not currently a thing.

I have medium brown hair and for a long time I was a black mascara lady. But in recent years, that has started to look really harsh on me, so I go with brown-black. It's still plenty dark, but in keeping with the soft natural look I go for.

Dancercise

@lobsterhug
I beg to differ! I went to Sephora a week or two ago and at least three brands had purple, blue, and green mascara! Dior and Bare Essentials were two of the brands, if you're interested. I forget the others.

oh, disaster

@lobsterhug Or blue glitter hair mascara. It's been a long time since I was 12 but my bangs have yet to forgive me.

NeverOddOrEven

@Dancersize Yup. I've seen a lot of multi-colors, just not drug store stuff.

lobsterhug

@Dancersize Good to know! CVS has failed me in this regard.

Andrea K@twitter

@andrea disaster HAIR MASCARA. What ever happened to that? There's some new thing on Sephora that you can use for "hair painting" and I'm convinced that a) it is just the grownup version of hair mascara and b) it needs to come in purple.

martini

@lobsterhug My daily mascara is blue! (YSL #3 if anyone is curious?) I think blue and purple mascara are a really nice alternative to black.

queenieliz

@NeverOddOrEven I'm pretty sure I've seen Styli-Style has purple mascara. I think RiteAid and CVS carry them...Haven't been bold enough to try it out myself though

Party Falcon

@martini I have so many questions! Is it smurfy-blue? Can people tell? Doesn't it clash with your eyeliner? Do you have blue eyes? If so, does it compete? Does it look a little 70's? And if yes, like in a good way?

(I'd come up with 20 whole questions, but I have seriously got to get to work. Real work. Jesus, the Hairpin. I just have to stop.)

martini

@Party Falcon It's royal blue. I'm pale with dark lashes and brown eyes and I think the blue makes my eyes look bigger and brighter. Plus it's fun! People do notice but not from across a room or anything. It's the only makeup I wear daily (and why I permit myself such expensive mascara!) so the clashing isn't a problem for me, but I don't think it would be unless you were doing heavy eye makeup that required black for a full effect or something?

Here's a link if you wanted to go peek. It's #3: http://shop.nordstrom.com/s/yves-saint-laurent-volume-effet-faux-cils-mascara/2810921 Blue mascara for everyone!!!

oh, disaster

@Andrea K@twitter My best friend had lavender hair mascara, but sadly, it looked white in our hair. And even though blue glitter was a bitch to get out, I kind of miss them.

oh, disaster

@Party Falcon Sometimes when I see your comments I sing to myself, "Party Falcon's in the nesssst tonighttttt, everybody just have a good flight."

Party Falcon

@andrea disaster That's the best thing ever.

lobsterhug

@martini Love it! I may have to get the purple one...

Hellcat

@martini Oooh, I have large anime-ish brown eyes and (as stated somewhere else in this thread) faux blond hair and dark lashes with light ends. I think I might be inspired to try a dark-purple mascara...and I just so happen to have an unused Sephora gift card! Do you think it would look odd by itself, as I am a very bad eyeliner-er?

@andrea disaster Don't even think I didn't just sing that out loud a little bit all alone in my apartment. Good work!

martini

@lobsterhug Do it! Do it! Do it!

@Hellcat It will look amazing by itself! That's usually how I wear it. I think most Sephora stores carry the YSL one in purple, but Givenchy makes a nice purple mascara also. Not as big a fan of the Sephora-brand colored mascaras -- they're thicker and more pigmented so it's more of a club look than an everyday-eccentric look. PS. Do it! Do it! Do it!

Hellcat

@martini Ooooh, twist my arm! I'll do it; now where's that Sephora GC? (Jeezalou, you guys, I have been a spendy kind of lady today! Valentine's Day presents for the BF (a Mr. Bungle t-shirt and a Clutch one... and a couple for me), a sparkly Union Jack purse and some jeans (both on sale) from Mikkat Market, and a post-work Loehmann's spree/freakout because, ohmygod, my stupid job made me sooooooo mad! I'll stop after my new purple mascara that doesn't really count anyway because... gift card!

Hellcat

@martini I did it -- I just used my trusty gift card to get the YSL mascara in purple! Hooray! Thanks for the encouragement and recommendation! And, because it is my birthday month, Sephora let me have a "Fresh Sugar Kisses Mini Lip Duo" for nothin'!

oboe-d-amore

@lobsterhug I LOVE blue mascara. I have some super cheapy stuff, and every time I wear it, people come up to me all day and ask if I'm wearing blue? mascara? It's awesome.

martini

@Hellcat Yesssss! I hope you love it! And happy past/future birthday!

Hellcat

@martini Thank you! I am suddenly so excited about the purple that I want to stop at CVS and get a cheapo one to try out before my Sephora order arrives. This is silly, right?

lauraruth

As a redhead with literally invisible eyelashes, I used to wear like "made for redheads" henna-red mascara, which I'm sure they make something similar of for blondes. But then I graduated to "brown-black" drugstore mascara, which isn't as dramatic as pure black (also Almay has a good kind of straight up Brown mascara that I wore for a while). If you want to spend 20 bucks on mascara, get a kind of Dior in their Chestnut shade.
As far as whether or not it looks natural, I think that depends on how you apply it and how many coats. I think my eyes look weird without any liner or mascara on, so I wear one or both all the time. But other people apparently can't even tell because I wear glasses.
Also, I have a conditioner obsession (my hair is very thick and curly and needs to be fucking tameddd) and I've tried every kind. IMO if you have wavy or curly hair, shampoo DOES NOT MATTER, but you need intense conditioner. Garnier Fructis is amazing, get yourself some sleek&shine, its only like 2 dollars more than Suave. Also sometimes I buy the travel size Fekkai stuff and use it on "special occasions" aka the weekend.

She Saved The World, Alot

@lauraruth I am incredibly jealous of the fact that you are a curly haired red head. I love red hair and I love curly hair and am so envious as a straight/sometimes wavy brunette-so-dark-it's-almost-black.

I also have a little bit of a chip on my shoulder because apparently I was born with curly hair! But then after my first haircut it turned straight. Blast that first woman who cut my hair!!!

olivebee

Eye makeup open thread/crowdsourcing question: I am a very fair-skinned, dark-haired 20something. And I LOVE eye-makeup. I have so much fun doing it and trying different techniques and colors. It's a vestigial trait from when I was a 10-yr-old wannabe cosmetologist.

This means, of course, I wear A LOT of it. What kind of impression does this give off (during the daytime, I mean...I basically wear "nighttime eyes" all day)? I'm mainly concerned that this doesn't make me look bitchy or full of myself. (And for the record, it's never 9th grade skanky black rimmed eyes with light blue shadow).

Party Falcon

@olivebee Nope. All good. At this point you no longer have "nighttime eyes" you have "your makeup look".

Transitioning to a more 'done' face from lipgloss only? More difficult and prone to nosy questions. But at this point, what you wear is just your face. Nothing bitchy or full of yourself about it!

Ophelia

@olivebee I don't think it would make you look bitchy, but it might depend on where you're working whether it's something that would make people question your professionalism? I'm not sure how "nighttime" we're talking here, but if you're, say, working at a snooty law firm, you might want to tone it down?

LRMG

@olivebee I love it when I see ladies out rocking out with a lot of makeup. It makes me want to talk to you. I'm similar to you in that I tend to wear fancier (maybe you could call them eveningish) clothes during the day. People comment and make judgements but I'd rather be myself and have them judge me then try and look less unusual and probably still be judged.

Does Axl have a jack?

@olivebee As long as it's not, like, Taylor Momsen panda eyes, you're probably fine. I stand by my theory that ladies with significant skin/hair contrast can get away with fairly dramatic makeup because we've already got the high contrast thing going on anyway.

olivebee

@Ophelia I work at a web company (so VERY casual....like my coworkers wear t-shirts and jeans). And by nighttime, I guess I mean smoky eyes of varying colors some days interspersed with old school cat eye liquid liner on some days.

@LRMG ME TOO! I love wearing dresses and skirts even though all the people I work with and hang out with live in jeans.

@everyone....thanks for the input! I'm usually just say "fuck it, I like my makeup," but I never quite stopped to think about the impression it might give off.

OxfordComma

@olivebee : Dude, I wear cat-eyeliner everyday, and have since I dyed my hair pink and black five years ago. It's my look now, and I love it. :)

Rock on with your bedroom-eyed-self!

Ophelia

@olivebee In that case, I so go on with your bad self!

Andrea K@twitter

@olivebee I pretty much do the same thing, which is to say, cat eyes almost all of the time or something else kind of flashy. So far as I can tell, that's just how my face looks to people, and the closest anyone's come to commenting on it is to say that I seem like someone "who probably knows stuff about makeup."

Also, I think if you're just rocking out with your makeup that's going to present differently than someone who feels really overdone for the situation? I'm more likely to notice someone is wearing a lot of makeup if they seem to think it's weird that they've suddenly started smearing black eyeliner everywhere a la that smoky eye tutorial the other week.

anachronistique

@olivebee I think so long as it doesn't look like you're wearing last night's eye makeup to work, you're fine. And it doesn't sound like that's your problem!

pixieg

@OxfordComma I love your username! I also do cat-eyes every day.

jennie

can i share a secret with you guys? and it is totally not meant to upset any natural blondes or redheads out there because I have super light eyelahes and eyebrows too... but, and i don't know how to say this, but i've always thought that super light eye lashes with no mascara on them look SO weird. like i look at mine in the mirror and it freaks me out. i feel especially bad when i see light haired boys with light eye lashes because they can't do anything out it. okay needed to get that off my chest.

lauraruth

@jennie no this is such a thing. I cannot look at mine and think I look ok without mascara on. Also a mean guy I slept with once told me they looked like "spider legs" without mascara on. Whut even.

roadtrips

@jennie Seconded! I mean, it looks weird to me on my face. I have however seen some people really rock that look. As always, it's about confidence and what you think is right on your face. My invisible eyelashes = no.

lisma

@lauraruth WHUT A JUICEBOX.

queenieliz

@jennie when I look at my boyfriend's very long, very straight, very blonde lashes, I want to curl them and slap on some mascara so bad.... I don't think he'd be into it, but his eyes would be so pretty!

Tropical Iceland

@lauraruth Whuuuut? I'm pretty sure the spider legs come out when you glob on mascara. I actually like blonde lashes, all soft and pretty.

thebestjasmine

@jennie You know, this thread is totally helpful for me, because I've always sort of wondered why mascara is for so many people the beauty product that they never leave the house without, and the light lashes thing makes it make sense now. I mean, don't get me wrong, mascara is nice and all, but it's probably #4 or so on my list.

aubrey!

@jennie Yes! If I don't wear mascara, my eyelids just blend into the rest of my face and I look like a lizard. Tilda Swinton can rock this look, but alas, I cannot.

Mingus_Thurber

@aubrey! YES! Like a lizard! Thank you. I've been wondering how to describe how I look without dyed eyelashes/mascara. Lizardesque.

steenie

@jennie Have any of y'all ever played the board game "Barbie Queen of the Prom"? There's a reason Poindexter is the least desirable prom date and that all your cousins will make fun of you if you end up going steady with him in the course of the game. Even if you get to the prom first, with the prettiest dress ("Enchanted Evening," duh) and the coolest club presidency and the highest allowance, you still don't really get to gloat. Anyway, he is a nerdy ginger and the cartoonist failed to give his eyes any more illustrative detail than just 2 pupils - like, black dots floating there (at least in the 1961 edition I used to play with at my grandmother's house). http://boardgamegeek.com/image/100259/barbie-queen-of-the-prom-game
And actually that, to me, is what light haired, light eyed people look like without lash contrast (myself included). Like aliens. The phrase "Poindexter-pupil" really nostalgically deepened how well I verbalize my mild self-loathing when I am sans fards. And yeah, geez louise blonde boys really get the short end of the stick on that one.

angelinha

I read the first question wondering, oh no, what kind of a syndrome is HIPS?

olivebee

@klibberfish You're not alone. Then I realized what she meant because I am built the same way.

Dr Clownius

@klibberfish i'm glad it wasn't just me!

ironhoneybee

@klibberfish Actually, it's the High-Impact Pelvic-Sector Syndrome (HIPSS). I've suffered from it since my late 20s. Sure, it emphasizes the smallness of my breasts, but it's what makes the booty drop worthwhile.

Dr Clownius

i glanced at this real quick before i actually read it, and for a second i thought that HIPS was an acronym for some breast-related disorder that i had never heard of. then i realized that the LW was talking about her actual hips. FAIL.

slutberry

@Dr Clownius ME TOO

OhShesArtsy

@teffodee Oh god, I'm glad it wasn't just me. I started to wikipedia it before I realized.

realtalk

Are we talking Anaheed Alani aka spouse of Ira Glass? because they did the CUTEST/BEST interview on Julie Klausner's How Was Your Week a while ago.

oh, disaster

@realtalk I love on the live This American Life show when he talks about how much they loved The OC and how they'd sing along with the theme song. And I LOVED that episode of HWYW.

realtalk

@andrea disaster oh my god I'm so glad you're with me on this, I was worried that I would sound like a crazy stalker. I'm not! just a big fan!

oh, disaster

@realtalk Same here! You're not alone.

Hellcat

@andrea disaster Holy crap, I have completely forgotten the intro/song to the OC except for Ryan Atwood gazing out the car window in the Chino hoodie... ooooh, what is iiiiiiiiit?

bananalise

@realtalk Yesssss! Love her, love him, love HWYW

oh, disaster

@Hellcat California, here we come. Right back where we started from.
Californiaaaaaaa...... Here we cooooooooommmmmmeeee.

P.S. The WB.com has the whole first season up annnnd I might be rewatching it.

Hellcat

@andrea disaster Yeah, I remembered after I commented...

and then I just might have busted out the season one DVDs... and perhaps proceeded to watch three episodes right in a row until 2am!

paddlepickle

Shampoo-question lady: I have noticed that when I buy expensive-er Shampoo (like we're talking John Frieda instead of Herbal Essences), it actually lasts me a lot longer and the price evens out.

JoanHaulAway

@paddlepickle trufax. This may not be universally true, but I find that with expensive stuff I get an adequate amount of lather with a tiny (dime-sized? hate that phrase) amount, whereas for Suave I need like a palmful to get my scalp fully engulfed in suds.

area@twitter

Is this the place where I talk about how the commentariat here got me off Pantene and onto Trader Joe's incredible dirt-cheap shampoo and conditioner? And how I went back a few weeks later to basically buy everything in their body care aisle (moisturizing hand sanitizer, sea salt scrub, exfoliating body bar) for a ridiculously small sum of money? <3 u, 'Pinners.

Heygirlhey

@area@twitter SOULMATES! (Or, oops, I just accidentally wrote the same thing below.) Also I think their "Enrich" moisturizer is secretly the same as Olay moisturizer?

:Cinnamon Girl:

@area@twitter LONG LIVE TRADER JOES! I'm currently using the Tea Tree Tingle line but also love the citrus stuff. Has anyone tried the toothpaste?

Heygirlhey

LW2: Trader Joe's might be the answer! It is usually the answer to all of my problems. You know how sometimes TJ's sells brand name food under their own private label? I think they do the same thing for their beauty products. So I'm pretty sure their shampoo and conditioner are secretly fancy! The best part is that they're cheap as shit. A bottle of shampoo is somewhere around $3.00. I use their "Tea Tree Tingle" shampoo, conditioner, and body wash, and I love them all!

OhShesArtsy

@Heygirlhey I am always so jealous of people who have Trader Joe's, this comment does not appease my jealousy.

slutberry

@Heygirlhey They work with Aveda! That's why their shampoo is awesome. (and yes, @OhShesArtsy, I miss Trader Joe's more than anything)

:Cinnamon Girl:

@Heygirlhey Cool, so I'm basically scrolling down and commenting on every thread about Trader Joes, but WHATEVER. I'm pretty sure the Tingle stuff is Giovanni Brand repackaged. Exact same ingredients.

AniaGosia

@OhShesArtsy Me too! I used to live across the street from one in Tucson - it was The Best. Now the closest one to me is 1.5hrs away! :(

VolcanoMouse

@OhShesArtsy I knoooow. The nearest Trader Joe's to me is about 200 miles away, so whenever I'm on a roadtrip that takes me within thirty miles of a Trader Joe's, I make us stop so I can buy a dozen bottles of the citrus shampoo.

The store brand Whole Foods citrus shampoo is Not The Same. Bizarre waxy gray coating left behind on my scalp and comb, ugh.

lora.bee

@VolcanoMouse I thought that Whole Foods sold Trader Joe's? I have never actually looked for it, but all this talk is making me want to try it out! Maybe I am completely mistaken...

editrickster

@lora.bee Trader Joe's is owned by ALDI Nord in Germany. They compete directly with Whole Foods. I know this because I read everything I could find about ALDI when I finally went to one a few months ago. Because seriously, the prices were insane and now I kind of love the place.

oboe-d-amore

@editrickster Really? Do you have any idea if that's the same Aldi that's in the UK? Because I miss Trader Joe's.

editrickster

@oboe-d-amore I think so ... my friend in the Netherlands said she occasionally will see Trader Joe's-brand products at her ALDI. And if you know both stores, you can totally tell which products are the same but in different packaging (like some of their frozen veggies).

Party Falcon

Open thread: I know I wear too much foundation now and then. Even though I know it's not a good look, one in a while, it makes me feel good to have "perfect" skin to face the day.

Also, even though I think it looks fantastic on me, I'm pretty sure my (faux) cheetah coat is actually kind of ridiculous and overwhelming.

Ophelia

@Party Falcon I don't really wear foundation, but I would TOTALLY wear a cheetah coat.

Anji

@Party Falcon Oh god, I'm so glad someone else has this ridiculous and overwhelming clothing item that looks awesome on them but they feel a little self-conscious about it. Mine is this pair of brown motorcycle boots with ginormous buckles. Everyone loves them (and so do I) but I have short legs, and I sort of feel like a bridge troll when I wear them.

I won't leave the house without at least foundation on. I normally don't bother with eye makeup and I've gotten way lazy about lipgloss/lipstick lately, but I'd rather die than not put on my face to go out in public! I use the Bare Minerals stuff, which is expensive but I get it really cheap on eBay (brand new and unopened, of course), and I've noticed a HUGE difference in my skin over the last two years that I've been wearing it. Seriously, this stuff is amazing, especially once you learn to skip the face primer.

Does Axl have a jack?

@Party Falcon Your cheetah coat is perfect. This is a fact.

Tuna Surprise

@Party Falcon

I once had a black eye and a make-up lady did the spray foundation thing under my eye and the whole thing disappeared! It was the coolest thing ever. For the whole day my skin looked perfect!

Ophelia

@Tuna Surprise Ooh, I forgot about spray foundation! My friend had it done for us bridesmaids at her wedding, and it was crazy cool. My face looked like porcelain. Crazytown.

Party Falcon

@Tuna Surprise When I become Independently Wealthy Party Falcon the Lady Food Anthropologist, I will buy a can of Dior AirFlash for each and every week and spray 'til you can't see my beak.

I love that stuff so so much. But $60 for about 3 weeks of foundation just isn't right.

Tragically Ludicrous

@Party Falcon I got into foundation and blush recently and I probably wear too much, but I really like the way it makes me look like a porcelain doll? Especially with really, really red lipstick. I don't know.

Party Falcon

@Party Falcon And more Open Thread Confessions: I sometimes wear leggings I know are too shear, but my good ones are dirty and I want to be comfy and stretchy.

Party Falcon

@Tragically Ludicrous It's so hard. You're supposed to be all natural and make your skin look like you and whatever. But...the pretty smooth makeup-skin with the perfectly even color that's like a canvas for self-decorating.

You can't get that with a dusting of powder and a smidge of concealer.

Tragically Ludicrous

@Party Falcon I blame this website, I use foundation recommended to me here! (It looks pretty great, I'm not going to lie.)

emilylou

@Anji I have that ridiculous/awesome/over-whelming clothing item, too - a vintage Marc Jacobs floorlength winter coat that features a huuuge faux fur stole. I'm only 5'2 so I swear I look like an Olsen twin, but it's so cool that I (mostly) don't give a shit.

hot dog princess

@emilylouise That sounds amazing...I live in Florida, I don't even get to wear heavy coats! COAT ENVY

PistolPackinMama

@Party Falcon I own... one pair... of black shoes. And 70+ pairs of shoes in red, purple, green, gold, multi-brown, velvet, lame, sequined, pink, and so on and so forth.

I have decided 1) all solid colors are neutral and 2) I don't care if it's all business up top and party on the toes at all times, including the gym where my shoes are HOT RASPBERRY.

Party Falcon

@PistolPackinMama Awesome. So awesome.

Combining all of my beauty 'faults' together, I realize that in general, I am Too Much. And in the spirit of the LWs question, yes, I can see why someone would maybe give me the side-eye and ask "does she really think that looks good?"

But yes, yes it does. At least it makes me feel good. Too Little would make me feel naked and not confident. So too much. Too much makeup, too much mascara, too many animal prints, too tight leggings, too many bangles, whatever.

Dancercise

@PistolPackinMama
Colorful shoes are amazing. I'm too nervous to fully embrace the brightly-colored-pants-leggings-or-tights trend happening right now, but I will always buy brightly colored, rhinestoned, and/or textured shoes!

Even my dance practice shoes are BRIGHT RED when everyone and their mother wears black or skin-colored practice shoes. I have gotten more compliments than I can count about those shoes.

Tropical Iceland

@Party Falcon Foundation is the best! But I can never get away with just foundation, I've gotta do the primer and the foundation and the pore-concealor and then it's all over my lashes so I've gotta do mascara, and then there's the four concealers for my eyes if I've got the time.

Turns out the only way to make yourself look like you're not wearing makeup is to wear a TON of it.

AniaGosia

@Party Falcon Oooh, sheer leggings? I am always afraid of the leggings as pants thing so I always wear a denim miniskirt with mine (no judgment re: you though, because: denim mini skirt = not the coolest, probably)

Party Falcon

Not, like actually sheer. Pretty opaque and all, just a little thin when stretched over the tush and whatnot.

Did you see the candid of Sofia Vergara where it looked like black leggings from the front, but from behind, what with the flash and all you could totally see her thong?

That's what I'm pretty sure it looks like, occasionally. Well, without the Sofia Vergara hotness, obvs.

Hellcat

@Party Falcon You stop it right now! That cheetah coat is fabulous and you know it because it has to be because I just bought me a faux cheetah coat too from Forever 21 of all places and I love it! Whew, run-on sentence! Anyway, come on now -- your faux cheetah is awesome!

Mingus_Thurber

@Party Falcon I saw you in your cheetah coat in my dreams and immediately regretted not buying a cheetah coat at the thrift store. That's how incredibly cool you looked. When I woke up, I was glad I hadn't bought the coat after all, because everybody would've been looking at me and been all, "Oh, God, Thurber's trying to get all up in Falcon's game again."

Hellcat

@Anji At no time, in no place, and for no one are motorcycle boots ever wrong. You just remember this as you are running around in your fabulous footwear!

(Man, I am commenting a lot today. I am not drunk, I swear. Though I kind of wish to be.)

tee
tee

@Party Falcon Oh boy. I'm sure I sometimes commit the too-much-foundation sin sometimes as well. It just... kind of creeps up on you, you know? Like, normally I wear a reasonable amount on my face and it looks fine, but some days my face just won't cooperate and so I keep piling it on, even though it's probably not doing me any favours.
I think the main trick to avoiding cake-face is to have a foundation that is actually the right shade, and blend it like crazy once it's on. I THINK.

Anji

@emilylouise Work that faux-fur stole, girl! I'm actually pretty jealous of everyone's amazing outerwear, because I always feel like I'm bulky and stupid-looking in my winter coat, no matter what style or material it's made from. This year I gave up and just bought a violet and black plaid utilitarian thing with a hood, because I'm never going to look chic and amazing while wearing something to keep myself warm.

Anji

@Hellcat Hee, thanks! I'm wearing a black pair today that I don't love as much, just to give the brown ones a break.

Hellcat

@Anji Biker boots of all kinds are my weakness. Right now, I've got four pairs in rotation, one of which I maybe should be ashamed of myself for buying... but since it's too late to regret it now, wanna see? http://tinyurl.com/72yd4uj

I think your coat sounds cute; I love purple and black together, and I love plaid (in fact, just got me some purple and black plaid tights). Too often, I just gravitate toward my black peacoat... a.k.a. The Lint Magnet of North Jersey. (Seriously, I've said before and I'll say it again: If anyone can invent a lintfree standard black peacoat, please do. Soon.)

werewolfbarmitzvah

@tee I have this issue with undereye concealer sometimes. I'm mega-pale and perpetually exhausted, and when I'm up at dawn to get ready for work, I look in the mirror and there are these huge blue-purpley circles under my eyes, so I try to cover them with concealer, but they're still there, so I cover them with MORE concealer, and then I look at the clock and I was supposed to leave for work 10 minutes ago and I run out the door, and then by the time I look in the bathroom mirror in the office, I'm all, "DEAR GOD, WHAT HAVE I DONE."

Anji

@Hellcat Ooh lord, those are so awesome. You'll build a killa outfit around those boots!

Well, I love my coat, because purple and black are the best (Ravens in the 2013 Super Bowl, yeah!) but it's super shapeless and makes me look like a potato. It has a hood, though, which rocks because I am impossibly vain about my hair and keep forgetting my umbrella. I just wish I could run around looking all cute and bundled up like every single one of my college roommates.

Hellcat

@Anji Those boots have made me horribly nervous since they arrived! I keep thinking that any day I wear them will be the day someone, somehow spills an enormous put of pasta sauce onto me, or a freak mudslide happens. I hid them in the back of my closet when Hurricane Irene happened, and I paid a shoe man to waterproof them instead of doing it myself (I just knew that the can would malfunction or something)! They're little blue neuroses-makers!

And you probably look just as good in your coat as your roommates look in theirs. In fact, they probably question their coats too!

emilylou

@Hellcat Just butting into this thread to say: Haha, I got a pair of beautiful pink suede Top-Siders for Christmas and I was SO paranoid about wearing them because I didn't want to ruin them. Of course, the first night I took them for a "test drive" around my fam's house, we were cooking in the kitchen and I spilled a bunch of pasta sauce on them!!! :( :( :( Your worst shoe fears realized... through me.

Hellcat

@emilylouise OH MY GOD, lady! I don't know whether I should be happy that someone has confirmed that I am not a paranoid loon, or horrified that... It Could Happen to Me! Also, I wrote "put" when I meant "pot."

emilylou

@Hellcat I know. IT COULD HAPPEN TO YOU. Luckily since the sauce was red and the shoes were pink, I just kind of... rubbed it in evenly (I am sooo gross! Jolie, please never read this!) and then threw some dishwashing detergent and cold water on them! (I was in the kitchen, desperate times call for desperate measures, I don't know)

Also I didn't learn my lesson, and two nights ago I spilled some mussels (yep) on my tan suede flats. I think I am only allowed to cook barefoot.

Hellcat

@emilylouise Crocs for you then! Or, you could invent some very stylish cooking shoes and then make a fancy infomercial.

Party Falcon

@emilylouise Get thyself to a decent pair of Danskos, even if you only cook in them. Change ya life! (Or so I hear from those with feet.)

Anji

I'm a big fan of Lush's solid shampoos. I know they contain sodium lauryl sulfate, but honestly, they do a great job on my oily, thick hair. Haven't tried their conditioner yet, but I got some of the American Cream for a friend with super-textured, frizzy hair and she totally loved it.

I've worn black mascara since I was a teenager, with a multitude of hair colors, and never thought anything of it. But as I've said in other threads, I kind of fail at being a girl anyway.

wallsdonotfall

@Anji If anyone wants to try a solid shampoo bar but hates Lush smells or wants to get away from SLS, I highly highly recommend Chagrin Valley's shampoo bars. Get a bunch of sample sizes, they'll last forever! And they're all genuinely different--my hair looooooves the Olive and Babassu but disagrees with the Cafe Moreno, for example.

Anji

@wallsdonotfall Ooh, thank you! I had been buying SLS-free solid shampoos for a while, but my favorite little indie company went under and I haven't had the heart to hunt down something new.

@wallsdonotfall I'm so glad other people dislike Lush smells, it makes me feel less crazy. Seriously, I've never walked in there and thought "wow, this product smells incredible, I want to rub it on my body!" I've had quite a few of their products and I never use them all up before they expire... I want to like them, but then, meh?

wee_ramekin

So, this isn't exactly like Kristin Bell's shirt because the hearts are tinier and closer together, but this shirt is on sale at Old Navy right now and it has pretty good reviews.

I just bought it online the other day -- I hope I like it as much as the people who reviewed it!

emilylou

@wee_ramekin That is so cute! I have this BCBG heart-printed blouse, which is kinda similar (also that girl and I have similar hair, uh oh IS THAT GIRL ME?! [...no]) and anyway, I love it and get compliments on it every time I wear it to work, so hopefully you have similar success with yours!

slutberry

EE! Anaheed! Anahids run in my family :)

vunder

Open thread beauty thing: I really don't like when brunettes go blonde. At best, it's boring, at worst it's so tacky.

cherrispryte

@vunder Oh, look, the open thread aspect is becoming judgmental as hell. Shocking.

slutberry

@cherrispryte Oh. Crap. That's true. Now I'm all embarrassed. :/

vunder

@cherrispryte Or...it's just an opinion? I mean, I sometimes do the lower eyeliner thing and maybe that's a bad idea and I'll reconsider?

cherrispryte

@vunder What gives you the right to have an opinion on other people's appearance? It's judgmental and rude.

Party Falcon

@vunder This is hard (and why I'm only calling myself out on my faux pas for the open thread stuff). I mean, the question was kind of worded looking for judgement and acknowledged that?

And Cherri, love her though I do, has also labeled me judgmental and it made me all embarrassed too. :/

lisma

@cherrispryte Everyone has the right to have an opinion about whatever they please (doesn't mean they should say anything though). And in turn, everyone has the right to tell people that their opinions are stupid or wrong or rude or judgmental.

elysian fields

@vunder I don't mind people lightening their hair if it looks good on them. What bugs me is when it's not flattering with their skin tone. Like, for people with skin that's more olive-y, or that has yellow undertones ... the yellow-on-yellow effect does not flatter, in my opinion. Plus I feel like dark hair that's repeatedly dyed (well, maybe this happens with all hair that's repeatedly dyed) tends to get that really coarse, dried-out texture, which looks unpleasant (to me).

But obviously, this is the USA and we all have the freedom to do what we want with our hair! Pay no heed to my opinions.

vunder

@cherrispryte oh I thought the LW was asking for just this thing. ["And then I wonder, what are some of the things that I do that make me feel pretty but are misguided appropriations of looks that were meant for someone with different features? Maybe this could make an interesting an open thread?..."] I'm not "judging," just evaluating a thing that I see that I assume people do to feel wonderful and I think ends up looking wrongish. Obviously, a million actresses do it every day, and many regular people do it as well, and I find is usually disappointing. I don't think you need to take it/me quite so seriously, though.

AniaGosia

@cherrispryte Hahaha what gives you the right to have an option hahaha.

cherrispryte

@vunder See how you cut off the LW's quote right before "it might be mean to make such judgments"? That's the problem part. The vast majority of the other comments here are "oh, I do this and maybe it looks weird" not your "this thing that lots of other people do is tacky/boring." I think passing judgement on people's appearance is insulting as hell, and if you can't bring yourself to not have negative feelings about appearances, the least you could do is keep them to yourself.

And I will take seriously whatever I damn well please.

cherrispryte

@AniaGosia what is this I can't even.

Party Falcon

@cherrispryte Doll, I just want everybody to be cool. And, you know, maybe being the first person to point and call judgey is kind of going to put people on edge? Like call a troll a troll, of course, but maybe give someone who could have just phrased a little better a shot at being otherwise awesome and understanding?

(Also, I didn't refer to myself in the third person, because I am a little scared the Party Falcon thing annoys the crap out of you. And it is all just supposed to be in good fun!)

turnipcake

@Party Falcon See, I feel like this is the sort of attitude that the n+1 article was trying to critique-- "it's all just a slumber party, nothing too serious, so don't bother voicing your thoughts and opinions." This is an open discussion, not summer camp. Why don't you respond to cherrispryte's actual concerns rather than tell her she's ruining the vibe?

turnipcake

@turnipcake Also, off topic, but WHY has it become a trend to turn all potentially confrontational statements into questions?

Party Falcon

@turnipcake because I like the slumber party? And don't think there's anything wrong with that.

And as I pretty coherently discussed in the post on the article, I don't think the 'criticisms' lobbed at so-called ladyblogs really added up to much. Not to mention came off as pretty anti-girl.

turnipcake

@Party Falcon It's not the slumber party itself that I take issue with, it's the use of the slumber party as an excuse to dismiss/ not engage with others' opinions.

Party Falcon

@turnipcake honestly? Because this is a bummer. I can be / have to be Captain Engage and Discuss in real life. My real life where I can't talk colored mascara and motorcycle boots. I don't really need confrontation in my 'Pin life. That would kind of make the conversations not worth having.

cherrispryte

@Party Falcon For what it's worth, I like the slumber party vibe too. But that feeling gets ruined for me when people say hurtful/catty/judgy things, so I speak up once in awhile. I realize not everyone appreciates this, but I kind of don't care.

Party Falcon

@cherrispryte Cool. Fair point.

Back to the hair-braiding and Truth or Dare, then?

cherrispryte

@Party Falcon Sounds good. I very much enjoy hair-braiding!

PistolPackinMama

@Party Falcon I know the third person comment was for Cherrispryte. But, I really, really love Party Falcon persona. It's so charming and also sharp and funny. Please, in other interactions, will you consider remaining Party Falcon forever?

Party Falcon

@PistolPackinMama Party Falcon wants you to know a secret, my delightful gun totin' maternal friend. In her real life, Party Falcon has ALWAYS been a carnival of festivities in killer avian form. Y'all just get to be in on the secret.

To the mews for tequila shots!

Party Falcon

@turnipcake I put a bit of thought into this and I think it's the written expression of that vocal fry concept that made the rounds awhile ago. Maybe.

Does Axl have a jack?

Does anyone else mix three (or two, or four, or whatever) conditioners together? In your hand, I mean, not in the bottle. Or am I just weird?

LRMG

@armyofskanks I do that and sometimes I also mix shampoos. You are not alone!

thebestjasmine

@armyofskanks I do this too -- I have a color depositing conditioner that gives me reddish sort of highlights, and I mix it with a more intense dry hair conditioner.

angelinha

@armyofskanks I mix regular shampoo and dandruff shampoo because suddenly this winter I have dandruff for the first time since I was about 9 :/

oboe-d-amore

@armyofskanks ...I have never thought of doing this, and now I think you're brilliant. Omg.

LRMG

I don't know what color hair the shampoo questioner has but if it is blonde I recommend the John Frieda brand. I rotate through their Blonde shampoos and the color depositing one has allowed me stop getting my hair highlighted. I also recommend the clear Neutrogena shampoo occasionally, as I do a curler set with hairspray and that gets it all out. Otherwise I second Jane's recommendation of Bumble and Bumble. I don't use a lot and they last.

psychedelicate

I am a natural light ash blonde and have dark eyebrows and eyelashes. It gets me angry when people say that THIS IS IMPOSSIBLE and that I should bleach my eyebrows. Um no. My mom says it is a Belarusian trait, she is probably lying, whatever!

queenieliz

@psychedelicate OMG! Bleach Your EYEBROWS? I think dark eyebrows with blonde hair are awesome (I just dyed mine dark brown last night) There's nothing worse than invisible eyebrows in my opinion (mine are half brown, half invisible)

psychedelicate

@queenieliz My stepmom has black hair naturally and bleaches it and her eyebrows blonde.

queenieliz

@psychedelicate I guess one wouldn't want too much of a contrast, especially if one wanted to seem naturally blonde...although I think it's so striking. I've been watching Twin Peaks and I love Madchen Amick's blonde hair and black eyebrows.

ormaisonogrande

@psychedelicate I'm the same. Ash blonde hair, just this side of black eyebrows and lashes. And for the record, I'm Irish/English -- no Belarussian here.
I've never had anyone tell me I should bleach my eyebrows, though. That's insane.

Lily Rowan

@psychedelicate Yeah, I bleached my eyebrows for a while -- they are always darker than my hair, and my hair was several shades lighter than natural, so the eyebrows started to look crazy. 5 minutes of Jolene, and good to go!

psychedelicate

@Lily Rowan My eyebrows are like, 10 shades darker. Even when my hair came in super platinum as a kid, my eyebrows were super dark. I actually quite like it even though some magazines say it's totally 80s.

nevernude cutoffs

I used to wear Michael Kors and the same thing happened to me! However, now I'm hooked on Fresh's Cannibis Santal, and time for a question. A coworker commented on it, and she said it reminded her of patchouli. Do I smell bad guys? For the record, I'm obsessed with this smell and love it.

Ophelia

@nevernude cutoffs I kind of like patchouli? But I'm a dirty hippie, so...

nevernude cutoffs

@Ophelia Haha... the automatic connotation for patchouli is "dirty hippie" so I'm sure if I'm offending anyone. Not that I'd change anyway, it smells fabulous.

MilesofMountains

@nevernude cutoffs Patchouli != bad! And I'm not just saying this because my perfume for the day is Patchouli Noir.

I'm saying it because half my perfumes involve patchouli.

Ophelia

@nevernude cutoffs Weirdly, it always reminds me of Halloween - when I was a kid, my mom had this weird antiquey table that she'd only break out at Halloween (it had this dark, black stain, and kind of spindly legs - a spider table!), and for some reason, it smelled really strongly of patchouli. So I totally associate that smell with costumes, candy, and happiness.

null

@nevernude cutoffs I recently realized that all the perfumes I like have patchouli in them, but I definitely do like that scent on its own.

frigwiggin

@nevernude cutoffs My stepsister makes soap, and one of the soaps she sent me is patchouli-scented. I love it! I don't care if it makes me smell like a dirty hippie, it's nice. :)

Mingus_Thurber

@nevernude cutoffs Patchouli only smells like dirty hippie if you've not bathed in six days, smoked an insane amount of weed in a closed room, and have bad dreadlocks. Otherwise it's a very nice, earthy, musky, sophisticated smell.

nevernude cutoffs

@Mingus_Thurber Thanks everyone, I feel better knowing patchouli is associating good times, which is really what being a dirty hippie is all about. Check out the perfume if you get the chance! It's described as "a forbidden blend of patchouli, cannabis and rose." So... there you go.

dotcommie

I think it’s worth it to get expensive-ish shampoo if you have color-treated hair because it will extend the life of your color, and always worth it to get nice conditioner. Protip: figure out a brand you like (Sephora will give samples) and then scour eBay for salon-sized gallons of it. I got a gallon of Bumble & Bumble Creme de Coco shampoo for $80, which is less than half of what I would pay buying individual bottles and IT WILL NEVER RUN OUT EVER. I guess you run the risk of being stuck with imitation product but that hasn’t happened to me or my friend who taught me this method.

LabRat

@dotcommie Holy shit. Doing this right now for my devachan conditioner.

nyikint

LW2: Forest Essentials! They're a super fancy, organic and relatively renowned brand in India, and obscenely expensive by Indian standards....which is about 15 US bucks.

I've noticed a genuine difference in my hair since I've been using the shampoo and conditioner. My hair is noticeably thicker, bouncier and softer. They ship worldwide, so check 'em out!

queenieliz

Beauty Question Open Thread: number one I am a blonde who loves to wear black mascara and black eyeliner. I see nothing wrong with defining my eyes. I am not going for a natural look when I do this. Number two, I know one is only supposed to go heavy on either the eyes or the lips; a dramatic eye with a nude lip or a bright lip with a neutral eye, but sometimes I really just want to smoke out my eyes and wear a bright lip color...can a sheer bright lip color work?

Party Falcon

@queenieliz Dude, the neutral eye thing with the bright lipstick always looks off balance to me. Like, you have to up your eye if you're doing a mega-lip, if only to not look like a kid in mommy's makeup.

hot dog princess

@queenieliz I think a sheer bright lip with some smokey eyes would look good! It all just depends on what you like - if you look in the mirror and think "whoa, this is too much" then tone it down. If you feel good in your makeup then by all means!

skyslang

@queenieliz I think you can do both a dramatic eye and a bright lip! That "rule" was decided upon by the beauty industry...oh...about six years ago. Check out the early 80s. Check out the wonderful work of Kevin Aucion.
For sure, it's not a natural look, but you seem to be open to that, and it is super fun and fantastic. If you do it right.
My only beauty rule is that you either go for natural and pretty--a brighter version of yourself--or you look super-made up and dramatic--all fucked-up punk or blown-out glamour.

queenieliz

@skyslang I just bought Kevyn's "Making Faces" from half.com! I'm really getting into makeup recently and trying to learn how to do it right, not the smudged cheap black eyeliner look from high school! I only learned about eyeshadow primers last year! I've foresworn eyeshadow for so long because of creasing, it was a revelation. I've actually been IN TO a MAC store, though I didn't buy anything.

queenieliz

@Party Falcon that's how I feel when I do it, like a dark eye with a natural lip looks uneven. But, I don't really wear makeup on a daily basis, so when I do sometimes I feel like putting ALL the makeup on...I usually end up taking some back off fearing I'll look "overdone" (especially because last time I went to my work Holiday party someone commented on my makeup...:-/)

britt

Anaheed, as in the lady who must be the coolest, nicest, smartest lady in the whole world 'cause she snagged herself an Ira?? Freaking amazing... says the radio junkie.

Anaheed

@britt That is true, about how I am the coolest, nicest, and smartest. I just fact-checked it and it totally checks out.

TheJerseyGrowler

Re: the perfume question. The reason why you're running out so quickly/feel like you're never using enough? Because over-the-counter perfume is like 95% alcohol. That shit burns fast when mixed with body heat.

I've been using Nantucket Natural Oils (google it!) to get over-the-counter perfumes made without the alcohol for years. They're a little expensive but 100% awesome and the scents last forever. You only need a few drops vs. ten body-covering mists. And it's an easy way to ensure you aren't overwhelming everyone you know with smells! Three dabs on your wrists and then rub behind your ears and you are good to go!

aks1612

Open thread/crowdsource: I'm looking for the red lipstick M.I.A. wears in the otherwise meh new Madonna music video. Or you know, something similar. Can't a darker South Asian girl find a red lipstick? That is all. And thank you all.

lisma

@aks1612 I know you said darker South Asian girl, but I think this shade would look good http://www.refinery29.com/long-lasting-lipsticks-product-review-valentines-day?page=3, despite it being from Kat Von D.

dotcommie

@aks1612 go to the nars counter. if they can't find you a red, no one can. seriously, they have so many wonderful reds with different undertones and finishes and they last forev.

thebestjasmine

@aks1612 Okay, this is not cheap, but I got a YSL lipstick from Sephora that I love, and they have a great true red color. It feels amazing too (and looks good on brown people).

aks1612

@thebestjasmine

@ginalouise

@dotcommie I'm trying these all! Thank you much. My dream of red lipstick will be fulfilled!

Secrets In Lace@twitter

Hi Hairpin - thanks for the interest in our Authentic Bullet Bras and Retro Chic Lingerie - we welcome your fans! http://www.secretsinlace.com

juliannasays

At a party I met this one girl who was a friend of a friend. This girl wore layers upon layers upon layers of mascara on both her upper and lower eyelashes and it looked so weird and me, being the drunk asshole that I can be, said to her, "Hi, why do you do that? I mean, you are such a pretty woman; you would look so much better without all that mascara on your eyelashes, especially the lower eyelashes. It makes you look kind of weird??" She didn't talk to me for the rest of the night. I'm guessing she probably thinks she looks GREAT with that much mascara on. (It was a goddamn New Year's party! We were all dressed up!)

Party Falcon

@juliannasays Maybe because it was NYE? It's like the one night a year (except maybe Halloween) that you can try ALL the makeups that you see/hear about but don't have a chance to wear the rest of the year and not feel weird about it? Like she was intentionally doing a Twiggy thing?

(Also, thank god I'm not more honest when I'm drunk. That seems like it would be rough.)

turnipcake

@juliannasays That story makes you seem quite rude.

juliannasays

@Party Falcon The woman wasn't in the sort of style of Twiggy / 60's at all. And according to her friend (who, yes, I asked), this was everyday make-up to her. It just seemed so weird. Also, yeah it is not good to be an asshole while drunk.

juliannasays

@turnipcake Yep. I try to not be, and that was quite a few years ago, but I'm likely still very rude.

Anji

@juliannasays That story reminds me of meeting a friend of a friend, who I was going to be helping with a paper for her English class. The first thing she said to me was, "Oh, hi. How come you're wearing such red lipstick? That really isn't the best look on you."

What I should have done: told her to go fuck herself because I love red lipstick, goddamnit.

What I did: shut my mouth and helped her with the paper, because I was not at all assertive in any way.

Man, I wish I could do over being 19 again.

ninotchka

I registered after lurking for ages because... I have so much to say about retro-style bras. I don't know how useful this will be to LW1, but everyone should read this blog post immediately:

http://blog.bygumbygolly.com/2011/10/adventures-in-recreating-1940s-bust.html

Secrets in Lace has seriously lovely stuff, but Orchard Corset has 40s and 50s style bras for cheap (like, under $20). Bonus: if you live in New York, you can go to their physical store and have the elderly Orthodox proprietors tell you your size by sight.

Holden Cauliflower

@ninotchka
This is so helpful, thank you!

ninotchka

@Holden Cauliflower Yay! Truly the credit goes to the blogger I linked. When I read her entry it was a revelation for me--I'm larger busted and bullet bras look pretty inappropriate on me.

elysian fields

REDHEADED PINNERS WHO HATE DARK MASCARA: Have any of you tried stuff from this line??? http://www.justforredheads.com/jfrsammas.html

I'm strongly considering ordering a tube of "GingerRed" but I have no idea if the brand is any good.

raised amongst catalogs

@elysian fields Oh, yes, please, someone answer this! I want to know, too!

Mingus_Thurber

@elysian fields HATE. HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE.

And not just because I like really black eyelashes. That stuff did nothing to make my eyelashes look darker, more defined, longer, ANYTHING. It looked like I'd rubbed Vaseline on my lashes, except that it rubbed off halfway through the day and left weird bruise-like smudges under my eyes.

Plus, it makes your lashes really hard and stiff, like cheap mascara does. Honestly? For the money, I'd go to Sephora and hunt down some brown or charcoal mascara and be done with it.

elysian fields

@Mingus_Thurber ughhh. Thanks for the warning. Unfortunately, I refuse to spend more than $10 on mascara, so Sephora is out. I guess I'm stuck with the stupid, way too dark "black brown" crud from the drugstore.

Mae
Mae

@elysian fields I, too, am a redhead with invisible lashes, and I love their mascara! Granted, I've only tried one line, so the other ones could be bad. (I got this one: http://www.justforredheads.com/stmase.html) It didn't smudge, it separated and defined my lashes well, and wasn't dry or cakey.

Mingus_Thurber

@elysian fields Try Almay. They have a good brown, if I recall right. Also, Sephora and Ulta have fantastic sales on stuff now and then.

Roxanne Rholes

@elysian fields Girrrrrl, please just try it, one time. You are already admitting that you hate what you are using. You put it on your EYES, you should like it! Sephora has a great return policy, so if you feel bad about the money later, you can return it. Also, if you order online you get a ton of fun free samples of things!

Tropical Iceland

One beauty-related thing I really don't go for is people doing vintage too literally or in a way that just doesn't look natural. I've definitely had the problem myself, or I've bought a super retro dress because it looked great and never worn it because it would look like a costume and didn't fit that great in the first place. I've seen just as many people do vintage really well, but vintage for the sake of vintage, especially if it's not their usual style, can end up looking silly.

As long as I'm judging other people, would somebody judge me and tell me if it's weird for a pretty feminine girl to wear so many sleeveless shirts? Like muscle tees in particular. Also, I wear so much damn black all the time. I feel like I accidentally ended up with an all black wardrobe and now I can't find anything in the laundry AND I worry about looking like a moody teenager.

thebestjasmine

@Tropical Iceland I think it's the difference between looking like you're wearing a costume and like you're wearing a vintage dress. Too many people do the costume thing, which is great for a dress up party, but just feels overdone and weird in real life.

cuminafterall

@Tropical Iceland Vintage dresses and muscle tees. These are a few of my favorite things. The trick to not looking like you're wearing a vintage dress as a costume is to keep everything else pretty low-key and modern. I like to pair my favorite dress with a black cardigan, black tights, and black ankle boots.

Re: muscle tees: get ones with stripes across the chest and your boobs will pop out like WHOA. Nothing masculine about that. Pair with bright-colored skinny jeans rolled up to the ankles and the summer tennis shoe of your choosing. Perhaps a ribbon around your ponytail.

Stay tuned for the next episode of Styling Tips from a Complete Stranger on the Internet.

annagram

@Tropical Iceland @thebestjasmine Agreed, you can't be part-time vintage or it just seems like dressing up. I have a similarly 'accidentally black' wardrobe and have no idea how to even start vintage-ing up, but http://www.superkawaiimama.com.au/ is giving me ideas...

Tropical Iceland

@cuminafterall A ribbon! Something I've never thought about has suddenly become very appealing. I could always use a way to dress up an easy ponytail.

The lesson I learned about vintage is that no matter how great 60's outfits and makeup and hair look in pictures, you can't replicate it for the same effect. And there's just no occasion where a vintage secretary dress feels appropriate. I mostly go vintage for accessories and use new clothes to do a vintage-inspired look.

Hellcat

@cuminafterall I think your tips sound pretty awesome. And I also think that, were we to live close to each other, we might have a grand old time digging through each other's closets!

themegnapkin

@Tropical Iceland check out Gertie's New Blog for Better Sewing. She's a sewing enthusiast with a focus on vintage, and she writes a lot about how to make vintage not look dated. The blog is not just for sewers (seamstresses?), it's for anyone with an interest in fashion. Her stuff is hot and totally modern. Check this one out - it's modeled on Joan from Mad Men's red dress, and it's awesome (sari, no hyperlink):
http://www.blogforbettersewing.com/2012/01/gussets-on-parade-finished-wiggle-dress.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+blogforbettersewing%2FrjQh+%28Gertie%27s+New+Blog+for+Better+Sewing%29

yoyohanna

Bra Lady - What you want is What Katie Did. http://www.whatkatiedid.com/

acefreakly

Hair question: I am a long time colorer- most often reds. Recently, I dyed my hair super dark brown ( chocolatey) and I love it- it's flattering to my skin tone, etc. I'd like to go red again when it warms up, but I'm wondering if there are dyes that will be on the cooler side of the color spectrum, like a red with blue undertones that will look as flattering as the chocolate brown that I have now? Im realizing that my old reds probably didn,t look as good as I thought they did- even the professionally applied versions. Advice?

Party Falcon

@acefreakly YES, so much yes. Ask your colorist. I think people would often look better in cooler hair colors, but its just not in the vocabularly we use to describe hair. We talk about golds and caramels and whatnot. But we don't have good, nice sounding words for the cool tones in hair.

It took me a LONG time to learn this about my own hair, and to this day, colorists will balk when I tell them I need the ashiest blonde they've got and absolutely NO gold pulling through.

Party Falcon

@acefreakly To better answer your question, yes, you can go bluer red, but you have to beware of ending up purplish. There are other ways of going cooler, but I don't know the exact color formula, so explain you want to be cool red, but not purplely and hopefully they'll bust out the colorwheel of awesome and figure it out! And DO NOT be afraid of the weird color swatches. Mine kind if looks light grey-purple with a touch of green. But my hair doesn't look that way at all!

KeLynn

Beauty confession: I think it looks really weird when people line their lower lid (not the waterline) with liquid liner. Example: Kate Middleton. she drives me CRAZY. All I see is liner, then skin, then eyeball. Skin sandwiches look awkward to me. But somehow using a little smokey eyeshadow underneath or something doesn't bother me so much?

Also Re: Hair - last night I bought a conditioner sample from my salon. It's Sebastian and it's made for people with hair that is both dyed and highlighted. Not until this morning did I realize that the conditioner is aerosol! What! I haven't used it yet but I am so intrigued.

Shayna

I splurge on Kenra Chelating shampoo, because it's the only thing I've found works on gross, still vaguely adolescent, greasy hair. Works wonders. Combined with henna dye (if you're looking to dye your hair red or blue-black, I totally recommend it, it's natural and makes your hair shiny in the non-grease way), my hair looks awesome. Might give the baking soda/vinegar thing a try though. Kenra's a drain on the budget.

EpWs

@Shayna Can I pick your brain about henna coloring? I have pretty average-shade (not super dark or light) brown hair that is baby fine and refuses to hold most colors--I was doing red for a while but it always went orange on me after a couple weeks. Love the idea of henna (no cray-cray chemicals! ooh shiny!) but know that it's pretty damn permanent. Any tips/advice?

Anji

@The Everpresent Wordsnatcher I'm not going to be able to answer your question about henna, but I've used the Garnier for Dark Hair to keep the red from fading so quickly (even though my hair is naturally dark ash blonde) and it's really held up a lot better than the other formulas. More pigments in it, probably.

EpWs

@Shayna I got your awesome response to this in my email but it has disappeared here? Sad times indeed. But thank you for the information, it really helps! The main thing I'm worried about is that (from what I've read) it's very hard to dye over henna with anything but henna, which makes it feel a little more "permanent" than most for me. But I think that as long as I do a strand test first I should be okay.
@Anji Thanks! I love me some Garnier.

mustelid

@The Everpresent Wordsnatcher It sounds like we might have similar hair colors? I was blonde as a baby and now I have medium brown hair, and I occasionally dye my hair with henna + indigo to get a superdark cool-toned brown. I'd only tried a chemical dye once to try to achieve a similar color, and it held for maybe a week so my hair doesn't really hold dye either (it's because it's so thick and healthy and smooth /humblebrag).

I don't know how much this will help you, as the indigo tends to fade more than the henna so it's hard to tell what's doing what. But I mean... I don't know. Since your hair isn't very light, henna isn't going to turn your hair fire-engine red or anything... more like a red wash over brown hair... auburny maybe? I find that my henna/indigo roots are not bad at all, because a) it's not a huge difference, especially once the indigo fades completely, which it does, and b) it seems to me like the henna part does fade a little bit too. I also don't do it very often so that could be part of it. Maybe I shouldn't be giving advice on this.

Also generally since it's not as consistent as chemical hair dye in the "what color will this be" department, people recommend doing a strand test before you do your whole head. So you could always do that just to make sure? You could set up a little experiment where you dye a clump from your hairbrush and then wash it daily for a few months and see if the color changes at all, oh god that sounds so weird but would also be funny.

Shayna

@The Everpresent Wordsnatcher It shows up for me, and I didn't delete it O.o
Yeah, you can't dye over it very well. I tried to put purple over it on a clump of hair after I got it cut, it didn't really work out. Chemicals and henna generally don't mix.

EpWs

@mustelid I'm just hoping to avoid fire-engine red/orange, but I think that as long as I do a strand test and check it out for a little while (probably just a couple weeks, that's typically how long my hair takes to decide what's up) I'll be good. Thanks for your help, everyone!

the zazu

Can big busts (e.g., 32FF) pull off the bullet bra look? Suggestions for bras?

unfortumissy

@the zazu I also want to know this! Also, related (kind of), does anyone have suggestions for longline bras (preferably strapless) that come in 30DDD or 32DD? The only ones I've found kind of just form a shelf under my boobs so that they stick way out, but the tops are completely revealed. Not quite what I'm looking for under the sheer lace neckline of my wedding dress.

musicello11

@unfortumissy Check out Freya

Mingus_Thurber

@unfortumissy @zazu: for bullet-ish bras (more conical than flat-out-crazy-bullet), try, believe it or not, 18-hour bras. They are not sexy, but they do have the three-piece construction that makes your boobage pointy. They also come in a huge range of sizes.

I love Herroom dot com for longline bras. I have a weird body, and was able to find a really good, comfortable longline that didn't do that shelf-thing there. They carry 30DDD and 32DD (just checked). It's gonna be 'spensive, but if it fits, it's worth the money.

AniaGosia

One reason to not use Suave is that they test on animals. Most of the drugstore brands do, but TRESemmé doesn't, so I use their 'naturals' s/c.

Hellcat

@AniaGosia Organix doesn't either, and there are quite a few other drugstore brands that don't (though I'm coming up blank at the moment because I've been using the Organix for a while, and also my Walgreens and CVS seem to carry a ton of stuff that might not be considered "drugstore"). Revlon doesn't either but does that brand even have hair stuff? I really have no clue.

Fancy Mustard

Eyeliner question! I watched a tutorial on fresh-faced natural makeup and the beautiful lady recommended lining your upper waterline. (I think our own beautiful lady, Jane, may have also recommended this?) I tried it and it looked fabulous, but after a blink or two, the liner had rubbed off a bit onto my lower waterlines...and by midday, it had all disappeared. I used Lancome's Le Crayon Khol pencil. Would a gel or liquid be better? Please tell me there's a secret to lining one's upper waterline so I can continue rocking this look!

thebestjasmine

@vealgirl I think that that's the kind of thing that primer was meant for (though will it get into your eyes and do something terrible? I don't know).

Mingus_Thurber

@vealgirl Waterproof? I use Smashbox's waterproof gel eyeliner on my top lid, and it lasts like crazy. I haven't gotten up the courage to try it on my waterline, but someday. . .I would think you'd need something specifically waterproof on that area.

cherrispryte

@vealgirl I can tell you what doesn't work? I love the lined-waterline look, but everytime I find a product that works, it gets discontinued. The stila gelpot of eyeliner with a thin brust is effective and long-lasting, but also migrates everywhere and gives you major undereye racoon eyes. Tarte has a specific product for this - an inner eye liner which didn't smudge and didn't sting, but also disappeared really quickly.
I had a huge Tarte palette a few years ago that had the best eyeliner for waterline-lining ever in it, I think it was a clay liner? So if they're still making it, try that?

thebestjasmine

@cherrispryte OH! You reminded me -- what's perfect for this is the Bobbie Brown gel pot, which is a lot like the Stila one, but it does not move. I've put it on in the morning and had NO SMUDGES at the end of the day, it's seriously great. The only problem with it is that I forget to put the top back on and then it dries up, but I need to buy more and stop doing that.

Fancy Mustard

@thebestjasmine, @Mingus_Thurber, @cherrispryte Thank you, 'Pinners! (For the advice and a reason to go to Nordstrom!)

cherrispryte

@thebestjasmine Oooh, will do! Thanks!

Mad as a Hatter!

Okay so opinion time. I wear Chance Eau Tendre by Chanel and I LOVE it, and I get complimented all the time. I just want to know if it's ever bothered anybody. I don't bathe in it but I hate to think I'm ever bothering someone.

Mingus_Thurber

@Sherlock How close are people standing to you when they compliment you? Seriously: If I'm walking past someone and they say "Wow! You smell GOOD!" I know I've gone overboard with the Philosophy. Ideally, somebody ought to be able to get into your personal space before they smell your perfume.

The one exception is if you're wearing perfume with both range and striking power in order to knock somebody flat on their ass so you can take advantage of them.

likethestore

@Sherlock That's my signature fragrance! I get compliments on it too. I am really really sensitive to strong scents and it's one of the few perfumes that doesn't bother me.

agba

Screw that mascara judginess. I am pale as all get-out, I dye my hair super ashy blond, and I wear jet black mascara with jet black eyeliner and I love it.

GirlParts

LADIES (and possibly gentlemen?) HELP.
I want a bullet bra. I want one more than I can express. But I wear a UK 34FF (which is a 34 H in American sizes? Yikes.), and the only bullet bras I can find go up to DD. Where?! How?! AND ARE THERE MATCHING PANTIES?!!

oboe-d-amore

@GirlParts I can't help you with this, but I think it's funny that people in the UK think that the US uses successive rather than repeated letters in bra sizes (H v. FF), and people in the US think the same thing about the UK.

Heidi

@GirlParts I ALSO WANT TO KNOW THIS. I am a 36H, and I would like a bra that makes my boobs any shape other than "lumpy smooshed sag". (Don't talk to me about Freya, that's what I'm wearing right now, and yes, I know that bras for my size always cost at least $80).

Bitterblue

@GirlParts I don't know if they carry bullet bras specifically, but I LOVE figleaves.com because they have a ton of really cute bras in a variety of styles that go past a DD. It's the only place I can find non-granny bras in colors other than beige and black in my size range.

GirlParts

@oboe-d-amore Heh, I'm not sure if you think I'm from the US or the UK, so I don't know which you're thinking is strange (I am from the US, btw).... I pointed it out because I shop at the US figleaves.com (a division of a UK company), which sells bras from several different countries. If the bra is from the UK (like most of the ones I buy, most US companies only carry to DD), a little messages pops up once you've selected your size, telling you what it would be in American.

GirlParts

@Heidi http://www.bravissimo.com/products/lingerie/all/#/1?show=16&sort=4&back=36&cup=h
There's some Freya in there, but there are others as well. Also, they have a clothing line that has special sizing for ladies with big boobs.
@BitterBlue - You should also be checking out this site. I love figleaves (I am wearing a set from their "midnight grace" line as I type this), but I will also use belle-lingerie.co.uk and brasandhoney.com, as well as the aforementioned bravissimo.com. Also, no bullet bras (alas)... vintage-style lingerie like that is a specialty item that most women would probably not buy :(

oboe-d-amore

@GirlParts I wasn't sure, but I'm an American living in the UK, so I am amused by these sorts of things. :-)

gladfanny

I feel like I shouldn't, but sometimes I wear things that make me look like a little British schoolgirl. Peter Pan collars, jumpers . . . maybe ruffled socks . . . even though I have a pretty sexy figure and boobs. I think my boyfriend secretly hates it, but I just love to feel pretty and prim. I sympathize with something St. Vincent tweeted once: "Have you ever walked out of your house and realized you're dressed like a 'hip' toddler?"

Fancy Mustard

@gladfanny I do this, too, a bit. I'd blame Zooey Deschanel, but she's already had to take the fall for my emergency 11 p.m. bathroom bang-cutting extravaganza...

themegnapkin

@gladfanny I sometimes get dressed for work only to realize that I'm dressed like a Catholic school girl...

Anji

@themegnapkin Whereas when you go to Catholic school for 12 years, you'll do anything to not look like you're wearing a uniform.

I have the feeling my mom used to let me out of the house with spiked hair and black eyeliner because she thought it was hilarious and didn't want me to stop doing it just for the sheer entertainment value.

planforamiracle

@gladfanny that is kind of awesome! related.. where do you find Peter-Pan-collared shirts?? bonus if it's in Canada!

gladfanny

@planforamiracle Oh man! Well, vintage stores (naturally), but you can find a boatload on modcloth.com. A boatload, I tell you!

gladfanny

I feel like I shouldn't, but sometimes I wear things that make me look like a little British schoolgirl. Peter Pan collars, jumpers . . . maybe ruffled socks . . . even though I have a pretty sexy figure and boobs. I think my boyfriend secretly hates it, but I just love to feel pretty and prim. I sympathize with something St. Vincent tweeted once: "Have you ever walked out of your house and realized you're dressed like a 'hip' toddler?"

itsanerditsaplane

as a strawberry blond with nearly-clear colored eyebrows + lashes not visible in most light conditions, i've struggled. black looks tarty. brown looks - off. struggled so much that this question made me feel compelled to comment for the very first time!

and i have the answer and struggle no longer! i wear dr hauschka BLUE mascara every day. not joking! very flattering against blue or green eyes. imparts the same overall effects and impression that black mascara does on people who have darker hair but somehow totally suitable to my pasty skin and partially clear hair coloring.

it really is complementary but does not usually standout on its own - people rarely notice it's actually blue and not black/brown.

important to note that i would not describe my style as outside the mainstream - my punk days are long over.

usually cheapest on pharmaca but sometimes whole foods body is lower..

oohdarling

Am I wrong in thinking that last question was totally bitchy in tone and implication?

Turtle

@oohdarling

You are not.

carolita

Best perfumes I know (and take note, I'm the kind that turns all perfumes into either talcum powder baby oil smells, or lemon smells, so it's hard to find the right perfume): ayalamoriel.com's Rosebud (nice and light), and Santa Maria Novella perfumes (Rose, and Orange Blossom). Those are my two favorite brands. I wear the Ayala Moriel when I start getting paranoid about non-organic ingredients in the other brand. But I break out the Santa Maria Novella for special occasions.

I also like to use the very cool non-toxic Lavera brand eyeliners. Sometimes they have them on Amazon. And for girls with South American eyelashes (the kind that just point straight down and brush mascara onto their undereyes), I recommend BeneFit's waterproof BadGal mascara (except they don't do brown for blondes, sorry! But blondes don't usually have those kind of eyelashes, anyway! ;)) You'll have to use cleansing oil (like Shu Uemura's) or the DHC one I use, but I like using oil cleanser for the face, because I can use it on my eye makeup too (it's a twofer!).

abbiet

I am naturally very blonde, with eyelashes pale enough they don't show up without mascara. I wear a soft brown shade of mascara and light eyebrow color (my eyebrows are also invisible without it) all the time. Pretty sure I don't look weird.

Bonnerita

I have had a similar thought regarding tattoos! I've been thinking of getting one, but I tend to always wear brown mascara and brown toned makeup (I am a very, very pale skinned red-head), so I was thinking, does anyone get dark brown tattoos? I feel weird about black ink for the same reason as the original question. I'm just not sure black as makeup, or tattoo ink, works for me. Have you ever seen a brown tattoo? Should I refer to it as "sepia"? Does that make it cooler?

miwome

@Bonnerita "Sepia" definitely makes it cooler, and I think you can get a tattoo however you want! I do think it depends where you're getting it, though, and assuming it's not on your face or neck, I doubt the black would be an issue. Do you wear black clothes? Black jewelry? It's probably fine.

Maybe try drawing whatever you're thinking of getting on yourself in black ink and live with it for a while, and see if the weirdness goes away. It's a good thing to do anyway, just to make sure you can live with the thing, but maybe this would help with your worries. You could also try it in sepia ink--they do make pens in that color, though you might have to go to an art store--and see what you like better.

In conclusion, tattoos! Yes!!!

Roxanne Rholes

@Bonnerita Yes, this! I have a semi-large tattoo on my shoulder and I wasn't sure if I wanted to just have it be black, or if I wanted color. Get thee to an art store with many-colored fine-point Sharpies, and color away!

EpWs

@Bonnerita A VERY pale, blonde friend of mine has a sepia tattoo under her arm and it looks AMAZING. It looks like very finely done henna and it is gorgeous on her. So yes, people do it, and yes, it looks fantastic! It might be worth looking around for a tattoo artist who's done some tattoos without black outlines before, though.

Holden Cauliflower

@Bonnerita
I'm not a fair-haired person, but I have a dark brown tattoo! It's a small ampersand (in the font used for the first printing of Moby-Dick, since I KNOW you were wondering) behind my right ear, and I wanted something that wouldn't be like WHAM TATTOO HEY LOOK AT THIS every time i pulled my hair back. I had the artist color-match the ink to my beauty marks, and I love it.

Also worth considering as you think about colors and details: most reputable parlors will do free touchups for you as their work ages, so if you decide you hate the brown you could always have them go over it with a darker pigment later on.

miwome

@Holden Cauliflower You are a genius. Matching it to your moles? YOU ARE A GENIUS.

PS I really want to get my second tattoo right behind my right ear too--was the process especially terrible? I keep hearing horror stories about "feeling the needle go into your skull" and freaking out, even though when I got my existing tattoo (wrist/inner arm) it really didn't bother me much.

musicello11

Back in November, I was inspired by a friend doing the completely-no-hair-washing experiment to try and wash my hair less than my every other day routine. I stretched it gradually to 3 days, then to 4. Now I only wash my hair every 5 days, and it is amazing. It's more shiny, softer, and while its flatter on day 5, doesn't really look greasy at all. I have stick straight thin hair. Day 5 I use normal Garnier shampoo and conditioner.

Erin Lucille

Thanks for taking my perfume question! I think we'll just keep the boxes the perfume comes in and store them in our bedroom from now on (rather than the bathroom). My poor coworkers will, however, continue to be subjected to my smell because there's only 2 of them anyway.

As for the shampoo front: I didn't seek out fancy shampoo, but bought some at the suggestion of my sister. I have a LOT of hair. Long, thick, and plentiful. I used to wash it every other day. The first day would dry it out and frizz it up, then the second day would be eeeehhhhhh okay except for the three inches from my scalp outwards (oiltown).

So I started using Arbonne's FC5 shampoo. It's weird? It barely lathers, which makes me feel weird every time I use it, but I swear my hair comes out so clean and soft and not dried out. I now wash my hair approximately every 4 days. Throw some dry shampoo in there and I get 5 days. It's like fancy-ass Mary Kay but it's fantastic.

Anaheed

@Erin Lucille You were keeping it in the BATHROOM? OK, I have an amendment to my answer: HOT HUMID AIR KILLS PERFUME, like, immediately. DON'T STORE YOUR PERFUME IN THE BATHROOM; it is literally the worst place to keep it. Store it in your cavernous wine cellar.

Roxanne Rholes

Ladies! After all the freeboobing and sheer-shirt talk I decided to get myself a sheer-ish black top and wear it with a black bra last night. Byofriend and I then got into a discussion of sheerness, and I expressed my desire to freeboob. He found the term "freeboob" hilarious, so it led to a conversation about Hairpin threads and ladies talking about how their boobs may or may not be "weird."

Later in the night, he hesitantly asked me: "...so, is there really a thread on that website where girls just all post pictures of their boobs?"

Oh, honey, no.

Jillsy Sloper

One of the bras on Jane's "dowdy" Herroom.com link is the Fantasie Belle, which I wear literally every day (I own 5 of them). My belly sticks out, so I require a bra with PROJECTION to make sure my boobs stick out even further.

fondue with cheddar

@Jillsy Sloper Now I'm picturing boobs that project moving pictures on the wall.

Xanthophyllippa

@jen325 I would buy a bra that allowed me to give PowerPoint presentations with my boobs.

fondue with cheddar

@Jillsy Sloper Those would be powerful points, indeed!

madeofsprinkles

FYI (as someone who recently went nuts looking for retro lingerie for v-day) you can find more bullet bras at "what katie did." yay bullet boobs!

http://www.whatkatiedid.us.com/product/464-harlow-bullet-bra-l6027

miwome

I dunno if anybody is reading this anymore, but what the hell!

My eyes have a tendency to tear up at odd times for no apparent reason. The eye doctor said it was because they're a bit too dry and so every so often they go BUCK WILD making up for it.

Anyway, this really sucks with the whole eye makeup thing! For the most part I can deal with it, in terms of not getting it all over my face/fixing it discreetly/working with it if I can't fix it. The only REAL problem is that it gives me spider lashes, even if I didn't have them when I put on my mascara! I already use the waterproofest stuff I can find without dropping mad dollaz (no can do), but I guess the lashes get stuck together a bit when I tear up (lots of blinking) and...I dunno.

Any thoughts? Bueller?

fondue with cheddar

@miwome Mine do the same thing, only it's because my skin is oily. In the evening, the oil gets in my eyes and they start burning and watering like crazy. Fortunately for me, I don't wear eye makeup. Unfortunately for you, that means I have no advice. I just wanted to chime in. I hope someone can suggest something for you! That sounds maddening.

the angry little raincloud

@miwome I'm not sure if this will help in your situation, but Clarins Double Fix Mascara is a game changer. It's $22, but it is the one product I will not be without ever again. It basically makes any mascara waterproof: so you can buy whatever cheap (or not) formula and then "seal" it with this stuff. I've never liked waterproof mascaras (they either weren't waterproof, didn't do anything for my lashes, or just sucked), so this stuff is awesome.

And really it works: I wore it over the Lancome Doll Eyes mascara into a Russian sauna. Hotter than hell, and yet my eyelashes remained spectacularly, the envy of all the other sweaty people.

mcLurk

I'm currently blonde and love caking on the black mascara and also draw my eyebrows on super dark and thick, because I really love the contrast and think it looks awesome and looking super natural and purty is not really a major goal of mine. So, uh, sorry if you think I look weird?

Xanthophyllippa

Okay, open thread question: is there any polite way in the world to tell one's best friend that her hair, which was formerly very shiny and soft-looking, is dull and ragged and burnt out now that she's started blowing it dry and yanking out all the wave with a giant round brush? She looks 10 years older now, and I can barely even look at her without wanting to cry out of grief for her formerly gorgeous hair.

spineapple tap

Bullet Bra letter-writer here! I LOVE THE HAIRPIN and was so giddy about having my letter published. A few comments:

a. Thank you SO much to Jane and the sweetheart commenters who offered excellent bra suggestions! I had a ton of fun reading your replies, and am now OVERWHELMED by choices.

b. I think it's hilarious that some readers mistook 'HIPS' to be a some sort of ailment. Sorry for the confusion - I just wanted to emphasize that I have a booty. I once overheard men on an elevator remark "bottom heavy" after I exited.

c. I hope the beginning of my letter didn't come across as trash-talking tiny boobs, big butts, or ANY body type - my intent wasn't to wallow in any sort of negative body image. To rephrase, I think curvy ladies are hot, but was only blessed with the bottom portion of that look, so I work to compensate with good (or inventive, on sweater or turtleneck days!) bras.

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