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Tuesday, January 10, 2012

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Mini Ask a Lady: The Thank-You Note

My New Year's resolution! It's to start writing thank-you letters. I don't write thank-you letters because I am a terrible person. And when I think about how I don't write thank-you letters and how that makes me a terrible person, I get this crushing anxiety that totally dissuades me from actually doing anything to change it! (Crushing anxiety would probably be a bit of a melodramatic overstatement, but you know what I'm saying?) So! Do you know any tips for making writing thank-you notes easier/bearable/not just thank-you notes but Christmas cards! By next year, how can I become a person who sends out Christmas cards? I don't know where everybody lives! I don't know where anybody lives! Any suggestions for how I can stop having the worst etiquette?

You can't see this, but I'm raising my eyebrows and looking at you, like, "Girl, just sit down and write thank-you notes!" And make Christmas cards, too, if you want — or maybe do a practice round with select friends at Valentine's Day (Shutterfly is currently having a sale). To get your friends' addresses, send out an email with a BCC list asking everyone where they live. If you then freak out (it sounds like the odds of that happening are perhaps higher than for most?) and don't end up sending anyone anything, it's highly unlikely your friends will be annoyed that you asked for their addresses, and then you'll at least have them for the next go-round. And you're not a terrible person, but you already knew that.

For thank-you cards, it's useful to remember that you could smear mud across a card, and as long as it gets back to the gift-sender (and includes the words "thank" and "you"), you're essentially in the clear. But a good thank-you card usually includes a cheery "thank you so much for the [thing]!" followed by some explanation of how you've been enjoying it, and a quick, personal, non-gift-related message to the sender. For instance: "Thank you so much for this letter to the Hairpin! It's so sweet and nuts, and I love that you thought to send it to us. I hope you send lots of thank-you cards to your loved ones this week."

Also: get pretty stationery! Then the desire to show off your pretty stationery, and the fact that you're a woman who has pretty stationery, will nudge you in the right direction. (Paper Source has lots of lovely sets — so does Etsy.) Get stamps that ... express you? That sounds silly, I know, but sometimes they do, in their way. Nice pens, all of that. It all helps. Pretend like you're a woman in an old book, her skirts tucked beneath her, scribbling away in the flickering candlelight at some pretty, spindle-legged writing desk. Your correspondence.

And for holiday cards, machine-made photo-collages are great ways for people to keep up with one another's growing pets/children/plants/shoe collections, but some of my favorite cards are the simple ones that're just heavy-stock postcards with a handmade print on the front (or a stamp), a hand-written greeting message, and a quick note. "Mini Lady, Best wishes for the new year." It's the prettiest thing on my card "mantle" (windowsill) right now.

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Inconceivable!

This is a helpful reminder that I haven't written my thank yous yet.

Thank you, Hairpin/Mini A Lady!

kayjay

Okay, I'm just going to come right out and say it: I've never received a thank-you card for any gift I've ever given (my friends/family are such savages)...and it absolutely has never crossed my mind that they are complete ingrates unworthy of my time and attention. Is it weird that I'm cool with not getting thank-you cards? Is there something wrong with me? WAIT. Don't answer that last question.

Roxanne Rholes

@kayjay It doesn't bother me a lot of the time, because I will end up talking to most people who get gifts from me, and they'll at least verbally confirm receipt. What I hate is when I don't even know if the person got what I sent!

teenie

@kayjay my family seemed to miss the "gratitude/thank you" memo too, and I never thought anything of it, really. And I think lots of people don't do it nowadays? But I started doing it this year, and it feels preeetty awesome. no lie. so I think I'm going to make it a Thing I Do now.

ejcsanfran

@kayjay: But imagine you received a TY note! Wouldn't you remember it forever and be more inclined to do other nice things for that person? I don't think one needs to judge someone for NOT sending thank-yous (though of course I do) - but I can't think of any instance when finding a handwritten note in one's mailbox after a shitty day at work could be anything other than delightful.

redheaded&crazie

@teenie I think it's a thing that especially older generations really expect, whereas younger generations might not but of course it's always a nice gesture.

every tomorrow@twitter

@kayjay I think I've gotten like three thank-you cards in my life and they were all for gifts given at formal events where the receiver couldn't really thank me in person (two weddings -- one I didn't even attend I just sent a gift -- and a baby shower). The rest of the time I give someone a gift and they're like, thanks dude! and I'm like, you're welcome! and that's the end of it.

I think I'm a crazy person because I kind of dislike getting thank-you notes? Like, I see the hand-addressed not-bill-shaped envelope and I'm like, "OOH SOMETHING INTERESTING!" and then it's just "Thank you for the [thing I probably forgot I gave them], I have been [whatever you would reasonably do with that thing]," and it's kind of a let-down.

ejcsanfran

@redheadedandcrazy: "Older generations"? I suppose next you'll be telling me I could stand to lose a few pounds...

kayjay

@ejcsanfran Yeah, I suppose it would be pretty cool. In the interest of full disclosure, I do thank-you cards but have gotten too overwhelmed in recent years to do them. But I make my daughter do them, ensuring she will one day be embittered by them like her mother was for so many years.

redheaded&crazie

@ejcsanfran well what I really meant was, like, grandparents!

But while we're at it, why can't you just text me your thank you?! IT'S ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY!

Roxanne Rholes

@kayjay THIS IS A GOOD CALL. My cousin has a young daughter and even though our family is famously out-of-touch, I like to send her Christmas gifts anyway. I send something every year and never get a phone call, a note, or even a Facebook message. For all I know, they never even got the packages...I'm not sending them anymore. Super sad, but I don't feel like I should have to call to confirm, you know?

lolita

@kayjay

If the gift is given in person, you are actually not required (supposed to??) send a thank you note. It's overkill. Which is rude? Anyhow, this is the thing I unearthed in Emily Post or something when I was going through an etiquette phase. (My friends would tell you I am still going through an etiquette phase. In fact, that I might be a finishing school teacher from Charleston/was in a past life. Whatever.)

kayjay

@Roxanne Rholes Confirmation email/text is all I require. I don't even want a phone call. Come over in person or email. I hate talking on the phone.

I figure by making my child do thank-you cards, it's sort of like politeness by proxy. If my child is polite, then I must be, too, right? RIGHT? For she hath sprung from my loins?

arrr starr

@every tomorrow@twitter I am totally crazy in that same way. Not that I dislike receiving thank you notes, but unless they are particularly long and chatty I find them a bit of a disappointment. Though I think part of the negative feelings are from flashbacks to being six years old and really annoyed that my mom was making me write thank you notes for all my birthday presents.

Faintly Macabre

@kayjay I don't think I've ever gotten them besides from kid-aged birthdays and bar/bat mitzvahs. I think they're mostly appreciated with mailed gifts, giant gifts, and when the sender went out of their way to give a gift. For instance, one of my relatives gave me a graduation present, even though he doesn't have a ton of money and I didn't have a party. I sent him a thank you note, and he went bananas. On the flip side, I sent a package overseas last month, and I still have no idea if it actually made it to my friend, grr.

OhMarie

@kayjay I agree with you. Nobody sends me thank-you cards, EXCEPT my mother, and she sends them for every-fucking-thing. Like, a few weeks ago my parents came to my place because I needed to use their ladder, and I fed them as a part of the deal. But then I get a thank-you note for the dinner.

Now that I'm writing this all out, maybe this is a passive aggressive attempt by my mom to get me to write more cards?

GingerJane

@kayjay I have a friend that always texts me to say "It was great to see you, thanks so much for coming over" and every single time I feel bad that I would never think to do that.

every tomorrow@twitter

Do you know who actually has cute thank you cards that are also totally cheap without looking totally cheap? Target. They have these nice letterpress ones that look expensive but are actually $14 for 50.

I learned this because my insurance agent sent me a thank you card (for... buying car insurance, wat) and I was like, oh wow, this is a super nice high-quality card! and then a month later I saw it at Target for super cheap and was actually MORE impressed by the taste+frugality combo of my insurance agent (who looks like a college basketball player, not someone who would select tasteful and yet extraordinarily reasonably priced thank-you cards like these: http://www.target.com/p/Green-Thank-You-Cards-50-Count/-/A-10811839 ).

SO IN SUMMARY, TARGET.

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@every tomorrow@twitter target, holla! also michaels! they have a section by the registers, and they always always have cute pretty little notecards from nice designers for $1. i've picked up 2-3 every time i visit my rents in the burbs, and i am so stocked on pretty little notecards. i write extraneous notes just to use them. now that i have a bunch, i can even pick cards to reflect the person... oh man all this is making me want to go write in a notecard... *swoon*

wee_ramekin

@every tomorrow@twitter I've also got Target cards!

pamelarcampbell

@every tomorrow@twitter Love Target! They do have awesome cards. Quite a selection. Also writing thank you notes is a lost art form. I am bad about writing notes especially if I don't know the person well. I guess it's the fear of sounding trite. I need to work on that :0)

whereismyrobot

@every tomorrow@twitter They really do. I can't go by that section, because I will keep buying more.

Roxanne Rholes

Oh my gosh, everyone! The post office has Gregory Peck stamps right now, as well as PIXAR stamps! With WALL-E on them! So fun to pick who gets which stamps! I recently finished a roll of state flags. The BEST.

I am an avid thank-you note writer, and I've had professional contacts and members of my boyfriends family comment on how much they appreciate the gesture. Even sending a quick note is a lost art, if not just to be sweet, you can definitely get on someone's good side with just two minutes of effort.

Beericle

@Roxanne Rholes I am a TY note writer too. As is my family, and most friends I exchange gifts with. It is kind of fun. We will see each other several times after the gift exchange, yet still send the note. I dunno, it is fun to get mail? Also, I think the cards that have "THANK YOU" written on them are cheesy.

LolaLaBalc

@Roxanne Rholes Weee! Stamps made me a convert. I didn't used to write thank-you notes OR Christmas cards, but then I had a flash of responsibility this year when the USPS did the ASPCA series of stamps (WITH KITTIES! AND PUPPIEEEES) and some really awesome giant abstract art collector's stamps. I now think of stamps as adult stickers and my letters and cards as grown-up, mobile Trapper-Keepers for me to stick them on, so people in my circle are getting junk mail from me right and left nowaday.

janiebee

@Roxanne Rholes Yes this! I always send thank yous and holiday cards, and this year my friend who had just quit her job was inspired to send out holiday cards to her professional contacts... which led to some freelance work. such a fantastically low stress way to remind someone you exist!

Also TJ Max type stores often have great card packs that are much cheaper than they look. I got a lovely pack of thank you cards there for like 5 bucks - cream cardstock with Thank You written in typewriter letters. which was perfect for sending out to the professors who wrote me a recommendation for grad school. if my best friend gets me a gift i'm more likely to 'casually' thank her (in person, on phone, by text) but for more professional moments the thank you card is definitely the Way To Go.

Skanky Baggington

@Roxanne Rholes: Yes, your last point is exactly what I'm hoping for with my long-term boyfriend's mother! She lives in another province and doesn't have a computer, so I printed off some pictures of me and boyfriend from over the past year, with a pretty blank card where I was jokey and breezy about her son and I. I had a really great time shopping for a nice pen and flowery stickers to snazz up the envelope. She'll finally like me after this, right? Right?

Decca

@Roxanne Rholes Just commenting to say that your post here finally inspired me to Google "Trapper-Keeper" because I have been reading that word for years, never knew what it was and was never quite bothered enough to look it up. I was NOT expecting a ring binder, though. Huh.

A brief history of stuff I used to think Trapper Keepers might be:

- Something vaguely feminine-hygiene related
- one of those Chinese finger trap things (cause it traps and then keeps your fingers)
- a case for your retainer

Inkcrafter

@Skanky Baggington
Can we get an update on this?
I think that so often on this site that it needs a good acronym.
Give Us Updates? Update On This?

Xanthophyllippa

@LolaLaBalc You could send me letters with cool stamps all you want!

Audley

@Roxanne Rholes I love pretty stamps. I went to my college's post office to buy stamps at the beginning of the year and got to look over their selection of stamp sheets. I got some lovely stamps with roses. There was a sheet entirely of Ronald Regan stamps. I wonder if they'll ever sell it...

LolaLaBalc

@Xanthophyllippa DONE AND DONE. I am now moving into Phase II mail junkie-dom by using ink stamps like seals for the envelopes, so I can pretend to be like a Dowager Countess who writes.

Xanthophyllippa

@LolaLaBalc I think I love you.

kittenskittenskittens

@Audley I mailed something from my parents' house a few months ago and they (lifelong Reagan haters) had the Reagan stamps. My Dad claimed "it was all they had." I was too horrified to attach REAGAN to piece of mail with my name on it to use them, so I went and bought my own Latin Music Legends stamps. (Selena! Tito Puente!)

Now I am on the USPS website looking at more stamps.

ejcsanfran

Also, if you can spring for good stationery (i.e. personalized - and engraved, obv. I don't have to tell you to eschew thermography, do I?), you'll really look forward to the opportunity to use it. It's kind of a nice little luxury - sure, I live in a rent-controlled slum apartment, but I have Crane's notecards with my initials!

iceberg

OK I'm gonna come out & say this: I think thank you notes are the most ridiculous antiquated notion ever. I don't understand why they are even still a thing.
What is wrong with thanking someone in person (or over the phone, or via email if overseas)? (serious question)

Ophelia

@iceberg Yeah, I'm with you. The only time I really send them is for stuff that the sender might not know I've received (or if said sender is older/not an emailer), or for very formal occasions. I don't see the point for the most part, and I'd much prefer to talk to someone than to send a card.

ejcsanfran

@iceberg: A thank you is a thank you, 'tis true to some extent. But, in theory, when someone gives you a gift, they have put a certain amount of time and thought into choosing the gift - thinking about what you might like or need. Taking the time to actually sit down and compose a few thoughtful lines expressing thanks just feels like the thanker is putting the same thoughtfulness into a note that the thankee did in choosing the gift.

gobblegirl

@iceberg Those things are good. But notes require more thought and effort, and are therefore more meaningful.

machinesss

@iceberg i think getting and receiving letters and cards is fun! for sure i think an email, phone or in person thank you is enough, but it's kinda sweet to know that someone took the extra bit of effort to send you a card. plus they're pretty (sometimes).

JustAPaperBag

@iceberg I just feel like when someone receives a note, it makes them feel more appreciated. But I also lament the end of hand writing and send hand written notes to interviewers. Plus, I hate talking on the phone.

Ophelia

@JustAPaperBag I might be a psychopath, but I'd actually rather get a phone call or an email, because if you send me a note, then I eventually have to either throw it away, or have my house covered in paper, and then I feel really bad for throwing away something someone gave me? Issues.

maevemealone

@iceberg It keeps humanity from falling into an abyss. It gives the mailman another chance to call my mother by her first name, and her another reason to pick up the phone and call me and say "Can you believe he calls me by my first name?! He's probably 2 years younger than me, that's just disrepectful. Why, I never. He should be a gentleman and call me Mrs. Mealone. I swear he winked at me too. Anyway, I got your card, how are you?"

Dancercise

@Ophelia
This is why I still have birthday/Christmas cards and thank you notes sent to me when I was in 6th grade.

missupright

@iceberg This is the point where I am grateful for living in a toolshed* and thus not having enough space to have to ask my mum for my two trunks of high school cards/letters back.

*It is a nice toolshed. I like it. But it is still a toolshed.

Third Wave Housewife

@Ophelia My brother had a great line about this in a youtube video and oh my god do you like dudes? short jewish dudes? dark hair? owns his own business? y'all would be perf together. But anyway, he feels strongly about keeping his space clean, so he made a video about clearing clutter off his desk. he comes across three photographs that our cousin had sent him- pictures of the whole family at a little gathering at her house- and said, "Somebody gave me these pictures of a family gathering I was at, so now I have three pictures that I have to do something with. So you know what? I actually have a file for that: stuff I feel bad about throwing away file. I think that's in miscellaneous..."misc cards letter shit".....now I don't have to worry about them and can throw the whole thing out one day." He also used to list in the "interests" field on social networking sites "Acquiring two of something and then throwing both away.

I don't feel so strongly about clutter, so I have a roll-top desk. HIDE THE MESS!!!!

FromTheFuture

also also: on this, my second year of sending Christmas cards, I went through my Gmail address book (where I have everyone's information) and I marked under the notes who gets a card and who gets a package of Christmas goodies from me. So know I just have to search "card" and "package" to figure out numbers for my mailings next year!

barbara millicent roberts

@FromTheFuture, you're a role model <3

SheWhoReadsInSkirts

@FromTheFuture That is brilliant. I will do that once I get around to doing my own Christmas cards.

aproprose

Oooh, oooh, you know what I LOVE and totally want to spring for? Those fancy self-inking stamps you can get with your return address on them. I want to get one and mail all the things.

OhShesArtsy

@aproprose I have one! IT'S AWESOME. I use it even on my bills. It makes me feel like a grown up. It wasn't too expensive, I got it on Amazon for like $12ish with free super saver shipping.

Also, it is purple. That's a grown up choice, right?

mustelid

@aproprose Oh man, I got my sister a gift certificate for one of those for Christmas because she and her husband just bought a house and I think she was pretty excited about it. It was definitely a little pricey (the self-inking ones were like $36-$40, but they also have traditional ones that you use with an ink pad that are cheaper) but the place I got it from (Sweet Papery) has really cute designs.

one cow.

@mustelid I got a few of those there, too! So cute!

Inkcrafter

@mustelid
That is a FANTASTIC housewarming gift! One of the lesser-celebrated feelings of moving into a new place is that feeling of "I live on this road now! I have no/an apartment number after my address! MAIN STREET Y'ALL!!"

Emmanuelle Cunt

@aproprose Ooh, yes, I want one of these too! They also make some where you can just place the letters and numbers yourself: http://www.amazon.com/Cosco-Self-Inking-Do-Yourself-Stamp/dp/B00006IB7K

I keep planning on getting one but then forgetting about it...

t-square

@aproprose We have one of those because we thought it would convince people that my husband and I really, truly, do not have the same last name if they saw it in print. It didn't work. But it is fun to stamp :)

OhShesArtsy

I have TONS of pretty stationary. You should come by and see it. You have to come because I will never send a letter. I have so much stationary, it's a disease, I swear. I also never send thank you cards*. It's awful. I always send out Christmas cards, though. It's my favorite Holiday thing!

*Except to my grandmothers, one who is just tickled by it, the other is a bitch who will call me and passive aggressively suggest that I don't love her which I totally so, I just don't like her. It's mutual, trust me.

every tomorrow@twitter

@OhShesArtsy Oh, I see your grandmother is the same model as my grandmother. Except mine doesn't know my phone number because my immediate family is engaged in a vast conspiracy to force her to guilt-trip me through my dad instead of doing it directly.

She also sends thank-you notes that are like, "Thank you for the [thing]. Why did you buy me a [thing]? You know I'll never use it and I'm sure it was way too expensive. I guess I'll just have to find a place to put it now, and you know I don't have any space here. I had much more space in my house (subtext: which you made me move out of so I could move into assisted living and I will never let you forget it). When are you going to come visit? You never come visit. I guess no one enjoys my company. I hope you had a nice [recent holiday when we didn't visit]."

The Angels Have the Phonebox

@every tomorrow@twitter Just add complaints about a recent ailment and you've got my grandmother.

atipofthehat

@OhShesArtsy

I haunt the stationery stores in foreign lands.

PancakeBatter

@every tomorrow@twitter Am I your grandmother? I have been known to send passive-aggressive Christmas cards. "Dear Family Who Are No Longer In Touch With Me, I hope you have a wonderful Christmas filled with joy and love. send my love to all the family, especially so-and-so. All the best, Pancake." Best cards are the ones with glitter so the guilt gets all through their carpet.

OhShesArtsy

@every tomorrow@twitter Yup, seems we have the same grandmother model. Mine will also throw in references to how she is going to die soon. She's been playing that card for 15 years now. I have to say, the shock of the statement is long gone.

OhShesArtsy

@PancakeBatter Oh god, you send craft herpes to your family? It's there forever!!

Related story: Someone once gave me a bath bomb that was FILLED with finely ground glitter on the inside. It was the prettiest bath ever but I still find glitter in my tub.

MissM

@OhShesArtsy:
Can I share my passive aggressive bitchy grandma story here? Yay!
Background: Only single marriage-age grandkid (31).
I was calling to thank her for sending Christmas check, she asks about work, if I'm traveling much - I reply with not right now, I'm sure more soon though. Her reply?
"It's not like you've got anything keeping you at home."

Love you too Grandma!

FloraPosteHaste

@MissM holy crap. is your grandma the voice inside my head? i think she must be.

gobblegirl

May I recommend the cards and other stationery made by my friend? (It's not annoying if it's not *self*-promotion, right?)
Anyway, her etsy shop is http://www.etsy.com/shop/mimosacards and her stuff is so nice. It's really cute-but-not-fussy printed stuff. Buy it!

laurel

@gobblegirl In this thread, about stationery, I think it'd be fine for one to tastefully post a link to one's own stationery store. It's not spam if it's brief and on topic?

Her stuff is super cute. I like the umbrella.

JustAPaperBag

This helps me get it in gear to write those pesky thank-you notes: follow a formula. Specifically, this: "Dear (name of kind person), Thank you so much for the (item I can't believe you bought me, it's ridiculously expensive)! (Little bit about how perfect it is for xyz/how you know me so well/how I drooled over that specific thing when I say it.) (For someone I see regularly) I'm sure I'll see you soon, but I just wanted to take a moment to say thanks! (For someone you see sporadically) I can't wait to see you next time (you come to the area/I am in the area)! Thanks again! Best, (dutiful thank you note writer)"
I got it off the internet when I searched "how to write thank you notes," because I seriously hate writing them, but my boyfriend's parents are always taking me somewhere or buying me something, and I put so much pressure on myself to do everything perfectly but then I feel overwhelmed. Ugh. I hate being an adult.

themegnapkin

@JustAPaperBag ... I know this sounds like an I'm an ungrateful wretch, but what if you don't like the gift? Do you lie? Or (less ungratefully), it's money, so you can't really say how perfect the giver's taste is?
I'm imagining,
Dear Cousin ___,
Thank you so much for the garlic grass-scented bath gel and lotion you bought me. You really know me so well to know that that's something I would love! I can't wait to see you next Thanksgiving at my mom's house! Thanks again! Best wishes,
Me

Lying (about how much you like a gift) reminds me of what my brother did. For years and years and years, my parents would get him button-down shirts at Christmas, to wear to his office job. He would always say thanks, how lovely! And then never ever wear them. My parents found out finally when he was moving and he asked them to deliver a bag of old clothing to goodwill for him. . . containing 25 button-down shirts, tags still attached.

JustAPaperBag

@themegnapkin No, I don't think it's okay to lie, but you can say something nice about something even if you don't like it. Like, "Thank you so much for the garlic grass-scented bath gel and lotion you bought me. It's so fragrant and looks so pretty next to my bath tub!" I dunno. The example the Internet gave me was about a pair of fugly slippers or something and mentioned how cozy they are, without being effusive or saying "they're so pretty" or something untrue. And when the giver comes over, try to make it look like you use it, and definitely don't try to make the gift giver take it to Goodwill for you. I really believe that if you lie, you will be found out, and that's so much worse than just smiling and being tactful.

wee_ramekin

@themegnapkin When I receive monetary gifts, I always thank the giver and let them know that the money is going to something really important. For example, the last two checks I received, I told the givers that they were going toward books for my classes, which led into a little explanation that I am taking classes toward a nursing degree, thus killing two birds (thank-you portion / conversational/catu-up portion) with one stone.

I think this is fine, especially if the person giving you money is older and more financially stable than you are (I know that my grandmother and aunt like that I'm putting the money toward classes, for example). If you're not in school, you can always say something like "I'm putting this toward my house/car/credit card payment/what-have-you".

I think another phrase you can use in a thank-you note to someone who has gifted you money is something like "In this economy / In hard times like these, this gift really comes in handy. I appreciate it so much". Even if you're not struggling to keep your head above water, I don't think anyone can argue with those statements!

mustelid

@themegnapkin For money, my phrase is, "thank you for the generous gift!" Saying "thanks for the cash" does seem a little trashy, and like, it's money... they know you're going to like it/that it's exactly your style, so there's no use in awkwardly trying to say that about cash.

Then the rest can just be, "I hope you're doing well, [mention of something, anything you know that's going on in their life -- ask a family member if necessary], [mention of how you've been], [mention of how you're looking forward to seeing them the next time you'll likely see them]."

Emma Peel

@JustAPaperBag I don't think not liking a present makes you an ungrateful wretch, but I also think it's fine to lie in some cases. You're usually writing thank-you notes to people who are far away, and they went out of their way to buy you a gift, and it will make them happy to hear you like it. (I am honest with my parents, longtime boyfriend, people who give you gifts more than once a year and will presumably for a long time -- they want to give you what you WANT...)

For money, if I use it to buy something present-y for myself I tell them what it is, or if I'm just depositing it into my account I'll say something like "It will definitely come in handy this month since I'm traveling for work" or "I'm going to take myself out to dinner one night" or just "It's always nice to have a little extra when you're right out of college" or whatever.

People expect thank-you notes to sound kind of formulaic and stilted, I think? Even good ones.

PistolPackinMama

@die_Auflaufformchen and all: when My brother graduated from high school, he composed haiku as thank you notes, with the seasonally appropriate references in them.

I think mine read something like

Brisk autumn wind gusts
Across the college quad grass
Thanks for the cash, Kate

I still have that card somewhere because it cracked me up so much.

Emmanuelle Cunt

@wee_ramekin Yep, I always let people know I appreciate the money in my current grad-student financial situation, and mention something I'm spending the money on - something like "a nice warm sweater" or "a book I can't wait to read". Once my grandma sent me some money that I put toward a new bicycle, and now she often asks me about my bicycle and how my bike riding is going! I think that helps people feel connected to you and realize that their gift is appreciated.

themegnapkin

@JustAPaperBag A belated thank you to you for your advice - I just used it to write a belated thank you to my uncle. I'm going to work on my timing, next. . .

themegnapkin

The best TY note I ever received was from someone I interviewed for a job. It was incredible. She took random things I had mentioned during the interview lunch and looked them up afterwards so that she could write about them to me. In comparison, my pathetic attempts at TY notes should never see the light of day.

LornaLoo

@themegnapkin Did she get the job??

themegnapkin

@LornaLoo :( No. . . This was several years ago, it was for a summer associate position at a law firm (not where I presently work). I lobbied for her, but I wasn't the decisionmaker, and the people on the hiring committee tend to go giggly for certain law schools, so they passed over her. Unfortunately, being awesome and writing incredible TY notes doesn't always get you the job.

JustAPaperBag

@themegnapkin I interviewed with a company (of attorneys but not a law firm) for a medical and legal writer (still not barred!) I wrote my interviewer a thank you note, mentioning stuff we had talked about and saying something like "Oh, I forgot to mention blah blah blah about my skills and this job." She sent my resume to the attorneys, who did another interview with me, and before I could send a thank you, I got a rejection letter. I still think my thank-you note helped and I would do it again, if I ever get an ever-loving interview, please Baby Jesus.

themegnapkin

@JustAPaperBag I didn't really understand what an awesome job search tool thank you notes can be until I received that one. That year I met a lot of law students, and every single other thank you note I received was a perfunctory "thank you for spending the time to meet with me, let me know if you would like to further discuss my qualifications" thank you note. I would never count a bad thank you note (or a lack of one) against anyone, but a really good thank you note provides an edge and makes the interviewer more likely to fight for you.

LornaLoo

@themegnapkin I agree... I haven't sent a thank you letter for an interview in a long time. When I was recently unemployed I only went on three interviews. One ended with being told I wouldn't get an offer (in the nicest way possible, and mutually agreed), and the other two ended more or less in job offers. I did send a thank you email to the first one, just to maintain a good relationship... I realized TY notes are still a thing in the job search world, but I was unaware that sending them as just an email was sort of lame... hunting again, so I guess I'll shape up my act!

Xanthophyllippa

@themegnapkin (and everyone else): This is why I teach my professional writing students to always write a follow-up or thank you letter for job interviews. I'm glad to have the good examples!

(Oh, and yes - a note that addresses points raised in the interview and goes beyond "thanks for your time; hope I get the job" will show that you actually give a shit about the job itself and about building a rapport with your future co-workers, not just about your impending paycheck.)

mustelid

Confession: I totally never sent thank you cards like, ever (maybe I did when I graduated high school and some people gave me money? I think). I think this is because everyone in my family lives near me so we always just, you know, said thank you and that was that.

But I now have a boyfriend who has parents that live many states away, and since I've met them and I guess they like me, we've given each other some gifts. And I mean honestly, it still didn't really occur to me, because the first gift they gave me was a Christmas gift which I was at their house to receive, so I was like, "Thank you!"

But then I got home, and THEY sent ME a thank you card for the gift I had give them, and I realized I was a philistine that was not worthy of their son's affections. But I sent one to them after the fact and it wasn't too much later so hopefully they didn't notice? I was then totally on the ball for the thank you card for the birthday present they sent me.

But since this Christmas I did not see them, the whole thank you card thing made even more sense! Like, I didn't get to say thank you in person, and I'm sure they also want to make sure I got it. But I felt like such a good, put-together lady from sending them one that I actually sent one to each of my family members who only live a half hour away. That made me feel good too! I even got a thank you card for my thank you card!

Also Elum Designs has some really cool cards. They have a lot of official Thank You cards, but I also just like buying their blank ones to use as thank you cards because then you can use them for other stuff too, like the "just saying hello" card, which is like, high-level classy lady stuff in my opinion.

So anyway yeah. Buying nice cards and stationery and stuff really helps. I buy some in packs but I also sometimes will buy the stupid expensive single ones from random shops if I see one I really like (plus then I'm like jesus I spent $5.50 on this, I better send it out). Buying thank you cards when I go on vacation is also fun! So now I have a little drawer full of cards, and I'm always ready to whip one out when I need it.

janiebee

@mustelid "high-level classy lady stuff" <<-- this is a summation of exactly what I wanted to say.

mustelid

Ohhh and another good one is Smock!

O'Malley

two things:
1) Over the past year I have gotten into the habit of picking up cute cards I see on clearance racks at places like anthropologie, even if I don't need that specific card. Having a stack of birthday, wedding, shower, etc. cards on hand make me SO much more likely to send them!
2) Do you send thank-you cards to everyone who gives you Christmas presents? Like, even if they were there to watch you open the gift? I've been under the impression that it is acceptable to only send a thank-you note if you are unable to show your gratitude in person by lots of oooh-ing and ahh-ing over the opened present! Am I a horrible person?

teenie

@O'Malley good idea! I've got a card box, and do the same thing (filling it with cute notecards I find along the way) and I ALWAYS have a card around to send out. If I don't have a specific card for a specific event, I just use a blank one.

lolita

@O'Malley

No, you are spot on!

I even read somewhere once that it is not quite appropriate to send one if you thanked them in person for the gift. This may have been shoddy advice, but has not yet steered me wrong.

(An obvious exception is the thank you to someone for a meeting/interview, which should happen in person AND in mailed note form.)

wee_ramekin

@O'Malley For your #1, I do the same! My mother always drilled into our heads that it is important to have thank-you cards on hand, and so I'll pick some up if I see some that look nice. As another poster said above, Target has some really cheap, really attractive ones. These are my current cards.

It's also a great idea to buy Christmas cards right after Christmas. You'll get them for super cheap, and then you'll have them on hand for next year. It will also eliminate one item on your to-do list at that busy time of year if you buy them now.

In response to your second question, I don't send thank-you cards to people who give me presents in person. I also don't send thank-you cards to people who I see or talk to soon after I receive the gift; in those cases, I just verbally thank the person.

O'Malley

@lolita @wee_ramekin
Thank you! I haven't sent out a thank-you card for a Christmas present, well, ever. But I also see every single one of my family members at Christmas and don't ever get them sent to me, so I thank them in person. Glad to know I'm just as polite as I thought I was (not very, but decent enough around holidays)!

sheistolerable

@O'Malley I think you can skip it if you open the gift in person, but if the giver is elderly and needs some extra love I still send one. Also, it seems to be required to send them for a shower, maybe because it's usually such a madhouse of present opening?

oh, disaster

I have no problem getting thank you cards, writing a little message, addressing them, and then sealing them. It's getting them to the post office and buying the damn stamps that trips me up. I've sent cards months and months later (like, pushing on a year) because they've been sitting on my desk that long, waiting for postage. It's like the basket of clean laundry that I just keep meaning to put away until it's empty because I've worn all the clothes that were in it.

Lexa Lane

@andrea disaster I used to have the exact same problem! My solution: I started buying a thing of the 'forever' stamps whenever I was actually at the post office (not often) and keeping them in my wallet. Because then not only do I not have them excuse of not having them, I don't even have the excuse of, "Oh, I forgot to stamp this before I left for work and now I can't drop it in the mailbox on my way home/to lunch/etc., so it will sit for another month." So far it's been working well.

rudedog@twitter

@andrea disaster buy some forever stamps next time you're at the atm. They're good forever, as the name implies, and you go to the atm more often than the post office anyway. Problem solved.

oh, disaster

@rudedog@twitter Wait, you can buy stamps at the ATM? Any ATM?!

rudedog@twitter

@andrea disaster maybe not any atm, and probably not those atms you see in the convenience stores, but I've definitely bought a packet of stamps from more than one atm here. Maybe it's a Seattle thing?

wee_ramekin

@rudedog@twitter I think it's a Seattle thing...I've never seen stamps at an ATM!

sheistolerable

@andrea disaster I agree with what others say here, keep stamps in your wallet. I don't think my ATM carries them, but more drugstores and the like than you would think, do. Plus, it's handy when you've forgotten to mail the rent check out AGAIN . . .

laurel

@rudedog@twitter We have them here in NM. At least, the Wells Fargo ATMs sell stamps.

You know what else we still have? Drive-thru banking.

Third Wave Housewife

@andrea disaster I always have stamps, and i even have a totally practical mailbox but I happen to have the most obnoxious mailman in the world- he puts my neighbor's mail in my box (EVERY. DAY. ALL OF IT) pounds on my door for packages for her address not mine (this is also a flaw of the layout of my house though) and never. ever. ever. takes things out that I left in the mailbox to be mailed.

The Lady of Shalott

I just finished my thank-you notes today! I think I am the only person on earth who likes writing thank-you notes. I HATED, hated, hated it as a kid but now I like it. I send nice notes to people on the notepaper I got for $14 for a thing of 50 at the paper store, and I tell them thank you and how I liked/used the gift, a few lines about what's going on lately/the weather/something else conversational.

But I also frequently send cards to my friends for no good reasons. And I love having pen pals and I write long, long letters. I am like the only reason Canada Post is still in existence, for people like me who looooooooove to write these things.

lolita

@The Lady of Shalott

Me, toooooo! I just made one of my friends with whom I always am playing phone tag instead become a pen pal because it is waaaay easier and more informative.

The slow and painful death of USPS at the hands of the evil Congress is maybe the saddest thing to happen to my life.

likethestore

@The Lady of Shalott I love letters! When I first went away to university, my friends and I had so much fun writing actual paper letters to each other. It helped to get mail from a friend when we were away from home for the first time and feeling kinda lost.

Faintly Macabre

@likethestore I love letters, too! My friend and I both love to draw/watercolor, so in college we would spend a million years writing overdecorated letters all about our mundane lives and then run around our respective dorms to remotely show off each others' talents.

agba

Yes! Stationery! This will solve your problem. I have so many cute cards that I get really excited when it's time to write thank-yous. I write them even for things like letters of recommendation for grad school applications -- and my recommenders have been super grateful. They feel appreciated (apparently nobody else does this!), you feel like a good person, they'll be happier to do it next time around, QED.

Also, think of your thank-you notes as an investment in future gifts, if it helps to cast this totally selfishly.

 
Emma Peel

@mustelid YES. I was the worst about mailing things until I started buying books of forever stamps and keeping them in my wallet (and I just realized I may have lost a whole brand-new book when I got a new wallet next week and now I am having a panic attack). It's worth $7.50 not to have to deal with it the next time you mail something.

mustelid

@Emma Peel Whoops, I deleted my original comment because it said "just suck it up and buy the flag/Statue of Liberty Forever ones" because I then looked on the USPS website and realized they now offer Forever stamps of stuff other than the basics? And then you replied and now I feel dumb.

That was all my post said, y'all. Just buy some forever stamps and keep them around. But apparently you can get cute ones too, not just the patriotic ones! Yay!

Xanthophyllippa

@mustelid American Scientists FTW!

WWVMD

I'm having a total flashback to writing thank you notes after my birthday parties (ages 7 - bat mitzvah). I always wrote "Thank you sooooooo----> much for blah blah blah" to take up space on the note. I'm guessing this probably is not acceptable as a grown up.

PistolPackinMama

I love this guide to the thank-you note. It's like, a pretty formula.

http://www.themorningnews.org/article/how-to-write-a-thank-you-note

Leslie Harpold's writing was always good.

I love writing cards and notes, and like sending Thank Yous because then you have a reason to write someone other than I Have These Shoe Cards From the Met.

sheistolerable

@PistolPackinMama It's a good article, but I often do put in some news from my life, especially to elderly relatives who gets nervous about long phone conversations. Or friends--you want them to know when you might be in town next--I don't think it's required, but certainly not a faux pas.

thebestjasmine

Wow, I could have written this. Because I am terrible about thank you notes, and it makes me feel terrible. I love receiving them, and I really do think that people who send thank you notes are nicer and better people, so I'm going to try to be one of those nicer and better people. I need to buy some of the awesome cards that you all have linked to start with.

wharrgarbl

@thebestjasmine Now is the best time to do it! I just went trawling for new stationery in book shops yesterday and made out like a bandit. A ton of it's 50%-off because the holidays are over, and you have your pick of pretty designs. Most of it's blank, too, so they can serve as birthday cards in a pinch.

thebestjasmine

@wharrgarbl There's an awesome stationary shop right near my office, I'm going to go NOW and look to see what they have on sale!

wharrgarbl

@thebestjasmine Hooray!

redheaded&crazie

@thebestjasmine i don't know how you do that small font thing but i totally wrote this letter and it makes me feel better that i'm not the only one!

don't judge me people! I WILL DO BETTER THIS YEAR

wharrgarbl

@redheadedandcrazy It's never too late! (Seriously, I was completely crap at all this for so long, and I'm sure I'll be completely crap at it again at some future point. We do what we can.) And remember, half-assing it is still better than no-assing it, so each accomplishment is a small but real triumph.

wee_ramekin

As far as forcing yourself to write thank you notes, I have some advice. First off, know that once you get into the habit of writing thank you notes, it gets a whole lot easier. You will not have to constantly beat yourself up about writing them.

I like to set a really strict timeline for myself in my head. Ideally, the day I get the gift, I write the note. It's corny, but I feel like when I do that, I'm actually conveying some of the joy I feel when I receive the gift. If I can't write the note that day, I make sure I write it WITHIN THREE DAYS of receiving the gift. I will even set a reminder in my phone if I have to. The feeling of awesomeness that comes over you when you have actually written and sent out a thank-you note within the appropriate time frame is SO GOOD. It becomes addictive.

Mame Dennis-Pickett-Burnside

@wee_ramekin Yes! One of my non-resolutions this year is to fight procrastination through little things that can lead to that spiral of guilt for not doing whatever It is. I think writing thank you cards is a great way to counteract that tendency. Good idea on writing it the same day!

redheaded&crazie

@wee_ramekin THIS! This immediate deadline! This is a good idea.

I already bought cute stationary like a year ago! And then one time I sat down to write a thank you note, and I made a mistake and had to throw out the whole card because once you make a mistake it looks ugly, and then, and then, I gave up on the whole endeavour.

Immediate deadlines! Feeling of awesomeness!

noReally

Thank you notes make people say, "That girl is an exceptionally fine human being," even if they have no real reason to think so.

The rule I was brought up with was, If someone sends you a present, then you absolutely must write them a note, because that's the only way they know you got it. But if you open a present in front of someone, no note required, because you looked them in they eye and said thank you right then.

Decca

I have never written or recieved a thank you note. Is this an American thing? Or am I just a rude asshole who tends to engage in present-buying for other rude assholes?

Although, when I graduate later this year I do plan to write thank you notes for certain professors who have been kind and helpful to me with recommendations and that.

wharrgarbl

@Decca It's a thing if you don't have a chance to thank someone in person, or if it's a particularly large or generous gift from a relative with whom you're not especially close (think wedding or graduation), or if it's a particularly snit-prone gift-giver.

Decca

@wharrgarbl Aha! Grand. I receive most of my gifts in person. (And plus, politeness isn't as much of a national attribute as it is in England or America, I feel.)

Oh! And thank you for your reply. (See? I'm learning.)

wharrgarbl

@Decca Aw, you're welcome!

I actually just got a few thank-you notes last week from some of my older relatives on account of the Christmas cookies I sent. They also use them to reply to Christmas cards/holiday letters. Like, the Christmas card will be "What's up with you? Enjoy the cookies!" and the note back will be "Thank you for the cookies, they were delicious. We got snowed in for five weeks this winter, and I had to kill a fishercat with a spoon because it tried to eat my dog. Your uncle is trying to turn its pelt into a hat, but I don't think it's going to work out very well. Same old, same old. I'm really looking forward to the new library opening, as it will be within easy walking distance, even if I need my snowshoes. XOXO, your awesome aunt. PS: Send more cookies."

Decca

@Decca isn't as much of a national attribute in Ireland, I meant.

wharrgarbl

So, here is my system for Actually Sending Christmas/Holiday Cards:

1) Buy enough cute/fancy cards from the stock of ridiculously discounted post-holiday crap to get me through next Christmas. (Do not get cards that need extra postage. It's a trap.) It's cheap, and no one is selling Christmas cards in October.

2) In October*, or early November, go through your address book and make sure you have everybody's address. If you don't have someone's address, or their address is out of date, ask for it now.

3) After giving everyone a chance to send their addresses, print up all your envelopes. Leave one or two from each set of cards blank, because shit happens.

4) Go get yourself some pretty, pretty stamps, because you are a classy lady who is sending out cards this year.

5) Clear your schedule, pour a glass of wine, put on a show you like but have seen before so it doesn't suck up all your attention, sit down, and fill out all your Christmas cards like a boss. Most people don't expect really long messages from someone who is not their great-aunt, so feel free to keep it brief. Cards typically don't have a lot of room, so don't be shy about writing a note on stationery paper and slipping it into the card if you do want to write a long note. (Mass-printed small notes inside proper cards is also an alternative to the dreaded holiday form letter.)

6) The first week of December (adjust as required for roving winter holidays), send out those cards. You will impress your mailcarrier with how many people you know! And care about enough to send cards! This not only gives you enough time to get your shit together if you get off-schedule, it also gives all the people who get your wonderful, beautiful cards, that you sent out like an adult, time to add you to their own card list without feeling like juiceboxes for not sending you a card when you sent them one. You will get so many cards back! (It's okay to scatter them on the bed and roll in them, if you want.) So many pretty cards!

7) If you get a card from someone you didn't expect a card from, or whose address you didn't have, and you want to send one back, whip out one of the spares you kept because shit happens and send that card out!

*Yes, really. October. The weeks between Thanksgiving and Christmas are a wasteland of time-sucks, hangovers, and unexpected obligations. Nobody wants to do cards then.

laurel

@wharrgarbl whitepages.com is pretty good for finding physical addresses too. It'll even tell you who the person lives with for confirmation (or stalking).

wharrgarbl

@laurel One of the benefits of growing old is that you'll be able to creep more and more people's addresses off property appraiser sites. Truly, the internet is a marvelous thing.

redheaded&crazie

@wharrgarbl excellent advice! I'm going to put it in a word document so that come October I'm on top of my shit!

wharrgarbl

@redheadedandcrazy Make your computer/phone help you by sending you reminders for your various stages! If you get a really early start, like maybe October 29th or 30th, you can do Christmas cards while watching Nightmare Before Christmas to get yourself psyched for Halloween parties.

wharrgarbl

@redheadedandcrazy Oh, and when you buy your pretty stamps, be sure to pick up more than you think you'll need a) because shit happens and b) that way you'll have pretty stamps right there and ready to go for thank-you cards.

laurel

Figure out what kind of paper/pen interaction you like. I like a nubby paper with a nice drag to it, something that will soak up some ink, and my $10 fountain pen from like CVS or whatever. I use blue ink (it's very grey-blue, which suits me) and let my crimpycrampy handwriting get kinda flowy. Other people hate draggy pen and paper and prefer a roller or gel pen on something a little slipperier. 'Sall about you!

likethestore

I collect mongrammed stationery so I wish I had more reasons to write thank-you notes. Also, I send Happy New Year cards instead of Christmas cards. You don't have to stress over Merry Christmas/Season's Greetings/Happy Holidays/whatever, and you have the week between Christmas and New Year's to get them out.

bonnbee

Nothing enrages me more than people who don't write thank you notes. NOTHING. Not sending a thank you note will make me a judgmental bitch, sorry.

Example 1: My stepbro and his fiance. Stepmom and I spent four months and thousands of dollars on their engagement party. It was huge, elaborate, and took up SO much time and energy. We also bought them expensive engagement gifts. NO THANK YOU NOTE for either the gifts or the party. Will permanently think poorly of them.

Example 2: Friend whom I've been doing a lot of work to keep up the friendship with after college. Every time I visit her house, which is six hours away, I send a thank you to both her and her parents for their hospitality. Her last birthday, I sent her a very thoughtful, expensive birthday gift. NO THANK YOU NOTE. No thank you call. Not even a thank you text. (She has never given me a gift in our entire friendship- I say this not to be vindictive but to draw a comparison).

RAAAAAAAAAAAAGE. If someone takes the time to have you at her house, buy you a gift, take you to dinner, etc., take the five minutes to write a thank you note. The End. No further discussion.

redheaded&crazie

@bonnbee I totally agree that not writing thank you notes is rude! That's somehow exactly why I struggle with it and create this self-defeating anxiety bullshit. But question, people are bringing up the whole, if you got the gift in person, you don't have to send a thank you note, but what do YOU judgmental bitch (not really) think of that?

because if I knew that I didn't have to write a thank you letter for gifts I receive in person, that would take a whole load off ...

PistolPackinMama

@bonnbee I wouldn't send Friend From College a gift again. Eventually the pleasure will go out of it for you completely. Blah blah something something anthropology reciprocity balance jadda jadda.

bonnbee

@redheadedandcrazy Ha! Since I am the resident Judgmental Thank You Card Bitch, I say, you STILL send a thank you note if you received the gift in person. Are you still thankful for the gift? Yes!

Birthday, graduation, engagement parties, weddings: you presumably receive these gifts in person, yes? You still send a thank you note. Every gift gets a thank you note.

I also branch out and send one when someone invites me to their house for a weekend, or takes me out to a fancy dinner (not like a date, but if a mentor or old person friend takes me to a fancy restaurant to catch up, I'll send a note), or does something nice for me (writes recommendation letters, or when my stepmom throws my engagement party this summer I'll write her a TY note, obvs).

Also, something I learned: you don't start out with, "Thanks for the cash, granny." You say, "Granny, thank you so much for coming to my bridal shower/wedding/birthday party/graduation. I so enjoyed getting to spend time with you. Also, thank you so much for the generous gift." Mention that you like spending time with granny moneybags first, not that she gave you cash. If it was money, I say, "thanks for the generous gift." Someone gave my fiance and I a restaurant gift certificate, and I said, "We're not able to go out often because we're both students, so your generous gift certificate allows us to finally have a date night! Thank you!" If the gift is an object, mention it by name. "Thanks for the wonderful cookbook." "The painting will look great in our hallway." Makes the card a lot more personal. One time I got a pre-printed 8X11 piece of paper from a girl whose high school graduation I went to that LITERALLY said Dear __________, Thank you for the _______. Her mother printed them out and had her daughter fill in the blanks. Again, RAAAAAAAAAAGE.

I am a thank you card stickler and aficionado.

Faintly Macabre

@bonnbee I have so far been too lazy to send thank you notes when I stay with people (though I do try to bring a present/buy them food!), but I once had a few friends stay at my house for two days, and one sent my parents a thank-you card. I think my parents were surprised, and I'll always think well of her for it.

dokuchan

@Faintly Macabre this is my method (see below) and it works wonders!

susiequsie

@bonnbee I totally, totally agree with you 100%! It does NOT take that much time to write and send a note, and I too turn into a Judgmental Bitch if I do not receive one. Thank you notes are important for the practical reason of letting someone know you received and appreciate their gift (I do not CARE if I don't like it, I come up with some reason why it was thoughtful and thank them for their thoughtfulness). Additionally, it is just the classy thing to do - someone puts time and effort into thinking of you, you return the favor with a little note. It reminds people why they were happy to get you a gift in the first place. If you want to put a selfish slant on it, it makes people more likely to want to get you a gift again. Make the time to do it, buy stamps, and mail it. End of story.

I will spare this thread my entire no-wedding-thank-you-note rage. That gets to me like NONE OTHER. Everyone goes to an effort to make a day special for you (whether through gifts, time, or both)....you take time out of your married life to say thank you. Done and done. No excuses.

henglishpayne

I find that I am more likely to send thank you notes if I tuck a ziplock bag of thank you notes plus postage in my purse and use "waiting time" (before the class or movie starts, in the last 5 minutes of lunch, while at the doctor's office) to write a few notes. If you're organized enough to have addresses with you, you can post them the same day. Otherwise, you put the name on the envelope and mail the note when you get back to where you addresses are stored. I use them in business too. A hand-written, hand-address envelope is more likely to be opened by the important executive than an email or voice mail.

redheaded&crazie

Thank you A Lady for giving me the side eye! I needed that!

I've got to practice in time for next christmas, so guess I'll be sending out valentines day cards to everyone I know! valentines day cards are totally a thing, I remember that from grade school.

Decca

It's a different issue than thank you notes, but letters are the best, right? Like proper, hand-written, gossipy letters from friends? I have good friends scattered all around the globe and we keep in touch through Facebook and email and such, but my new thing for 2012 is to write letters. I'm writing one right now!

Audley

@Decca I made a resolution this Fall to write plenty of letters and I'm actually quite proud of myself. The best thing about letter writing is that people often write back. I hope you get plenty of handwritten responses!

steve

@Decca

Madam,

I do myself the honour of replying to your comment of the 10th Inst. in which you related your praise of Proper Letters and the writing of same. I wish to indicate in reply that I concur with this statement.

I beg to remain,
Madam,
Your most humble and obedient servant

Steve

sheistolerable

Actually, I only just recently learned that a truly graceful thank you note does NOT start with the words "Thank you." Per Miss Manners, my goddess, the idea is that you care about them so much you're just writing them to say hello and of course mentioning their lovely present. So now I usually start by mentioning the last time I saw them and how nice that was, or if I haven't seen them in a while tell them how I spent my [Christmas or birthday] and then segue into the thanks. I am a flawed person in many respects, but one thing I can say for myself, I do write thank you notes. Usually quite promptly. But I have a shower and a wedding coming up this year, so it will be a true test of my mettle.

Also, I was going through a box of things my grandma saved and found a thank-you from her sister for the sister (great aunt's) wedding present. Back in the day, thank you notes were way tinier than many are now! She had this monogrammed stationery that was basically a 3 x 5 folded in half, and she wrote on 3 sides of it. You couldn't even send that through the mail today. So go easy on yourself. Four sentences promptly sent make a lovely note.

Emmanuelle Cunt

@sheistolerable I feel like I do the "truly graceful thank you note" about half the time, but I'd never heard that principle stated explicitly. Something to work on, I guess! Also agreed that a short, well-written note is a good note.

dokuchan

I was also taught to send a TY card for gifts received not in person (or formal in-person occasions such as a wedding/bar mitzvah/bridal shower) but ALSO after you stay at someone's house.

There is NO BETTER WAY to come off as a classy well-bred woman than sending your boyfriend's parents a thank you note the first time you stay with them. This also goes for friends who live with their parents, use of parent-related cabin/vacation spots, older friends whose couch you crashed on, etc etc. Even if you are a dirty hippie with a punk haircut, you are golden in their eyes forever. All for a short paragraph or two of thanks. Totally worth it if you utilize the couchsurfing method of travel.

(fellow nerd keeping the USPS alive)

The Lady of Shalott

@dokuchan Yes! I do this too! And it leaves an amazing impression AND helps you guarantee future invitations to that place!

Third Wave Housewife

@dokuchan Mister's mother probably wanted us to get married after meeting me...once. I straight up sent flowers the first time I stayed there, then a note after the holidays. This followed a long debate over dinner about whether it was appropriate to show up empty handed, and if my plan of "be polite and help clean, send flowers next week" was unacceptable. My mom probably thought I was going to be left in the street for showing up empty handed. SCORE ONE FOR TWH.

thenewbrunette

I'M WRITING THEM TONIGHT, OK??

(Thanks for the reminder)

whereismyrobot

Question about writing Thank Yous after an interview: Sometimes they let me know that they will be making their decision within a few days, is it gauche to send a Thank You email?

wharrgarbl

@whereismyrobot Others may Have Opinions about it, but I have yet to hear anyone gripe about an applicant who fires off a thank-you/follow-up email the same day as the interview occurred. Like, a "Thanks for meeting with me today, I really appreciated the chance to interview for this position and introduce myself face-to-face, please let me know if you have any questions that didn't come up in the interview or wanted clarification on anything, have a nice evening." sort of thing is pretty inoffensive.

Slapfight

Can I just thank this A Lady for simply saying "write the damned note already!" Maybe I'm crabby but these "problems" lately are really not problems. "Help me buy a tee shirt!" Good god woman, go to the store. "Help me clean my room!" Pick things up and put them away. Though I did enjoy Jolie's harcore and extremely well organized game plan. Basically, I want the good stuff! I WANT THE JUICE! Though I suppose the lack of problems is a good thing in the Hairpinnerverse.
JUICE!

Slapfight

@Slapfight This may sound crabbier than I intended. I just really look forward to the advice columns.

Cashmere Sweater

I would just like to add: StationEry. EEEEEEEEEEEEEEE. E for envelope. StationAry means staying in one place, or at a steady point. I keep seeing the phrase "stationary store" in these comment threads, and imagining a shop full of people playing Freeze Tag.

wee_ramekin

@Cashmere Sweater I never knew that! And it's one of those things that spellcheck won't catch, since you're spelling an actual word. 'E as in envelope'; that's great! Thank you so much for saying this, really! I am a stickler for spelling, grammar and punctuation, so this is really good to know :).

Cashmere Sweater

@wee_ramekin You're welcome! It's such a common homophone; I think most people get it wrong! When you Google "stationAry," you mostly get links to stores that sell paper goods. Useful for selling notecards, but it probably adds to the general confusion! : )

RocketSurgeon

I got a hand-written, multi-line thank you note yesterday from the guy who sold me my Frye boots at their store in Soho. It was a little strange.

yup.

You guys, I sent a thank you note (in the actual postal mail) last week for the first time in... over a decade? And I still feel like people should be congratulating me for becoming a better human being. It's kind of weird and embarrassing to send a thank you note for some reason, and I had to break out of my comfort zone a little to do it, but... um, I second the suggestion of buying nice and/or fun stationery.

DO EEEET

Decca

I SENT A THANK YOU NOTE TODAY!!!

Phyllis Nefler

@ejcsanfran Smythson of Bond Street is also excellent.

essjay

I wonder if part of my difficulty in writing thank yous is that I wasn't brought up writing them. Which isn't an excuse at all for someone who is almost 30, but it was never something my parents drilled into my head. They are not terrible people either, just somewhat socially... inexperienced. But other than that, I never feel like the notes are good enough! As in, not adequately conveying my appreciation/gratitude etc... so instead I more often send nothing or wait until waaay later than is ideal and feeling guilty about it all the while. SO BAD.

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