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Tall Girls: A Story of Giants

I can't even tell you how excited I am to see this film Tall Girls that is supposed to come out someday soon-ish? For one, the trailer — which there's no embeddable version of so you'll have to watch it here — just makes you fall in love with every girl in it so hard. For two, I am the runt in a family of tall girls and have always been jealous of their stature. Are you a tall girl? Do you love one?



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Jolie Kerr

I'm a short girl who LOVES tall girls. LOVES 'EM. Until recently I'd always been the sidekick to a tall girl and MAN I miss that. I'm taking applications for the position if anyone is interested. Bonus if you're tall and bossy, just like the way that Liz Phair describes Julia Roberts at summer camp.

BlushAndBashful

@Jolie Kerr "I told him that I knew Julia Roberts when I was twelve at summer camp"!!!

insouciantlover

@Jolie Kerr You rang, dahling?

one cow.

@Jolie Kerr Yeah! My best friend in college was 6' to my 5'5" & we'd walk to lunch together arm in arm, me running the whole time while she took long, elegant strides. I called her my gazelle.

lisma

@one cow. It's totally true. My BF is 6 feet to my 5'2 and I often find that I'm just shy of jogging in trying to keep pace with him. I'm always saying, "slow down! one of your strides is like 1.5 of mine."

lalaland

@Jolie Kerr Me too! I'm 5'...ish and my best friend is 5' 9". But I think I am taller than I really am and she thinks she is shorter, (perhaps we averaged our heights?) and so it is always a surprise when we are walking together and see ourselves in a mirror.

contrary

@Jolie Kerr Will you teach me to be a clean person? I'll come stand next to you (I'm 6'3" in heels!)

paisami

@Jolie Kerr most of my friends are 5'5" or above, but two of my bestest besties are 6' and 6'1"(but refer to themselves as 5'11"). i am 5'2" if i'm being generous, and do not wear heels out (<3 u shiny gold doc martens), but they do, and i look like i need to go home to the lollipop guild. i can deal though because i am "the perfect height to hug" as they can rest their heads on top of mine. we take photos regularly in which i am at the bottom of a totem pole made of our heads - i don't even have to crouch that much. i also get "short" nicknames. small fry. short stack. then short fry. small stack, but it didn't stick. the list goes on.

DH@twitter

I'm a reasonably tall girl. Once when my sister, me, and our mom were out shoppipng, a woman stopped in an aisle, looked at us, and said, "You're like a bunch of Amazons!" We're all five foot ten, so not THAT tall. But it was funny.

Sometimes little old ladies ask me to get things from tall shelves in the grocery store. This is my superpower!

Beericle

@DH@twitter Old ladies frequently ask ME to get them things from tall shelves at the store! I love that superpower. I also love being tall - but have more-than-once had someone try to make a tranny joke, and I don't love that as much, at all.

atipofthehat

@Beericle

Reminds me of a holiday party years ago where a tall female friend of mine (6'3", in heels that made her 6'7", a short glittery dress, and a metallic silver wig) came up to me (over me) and shouted: "I am not a transvestite!"

After which, one had to admit, she did look like she might be, though I would never, ever have thought that on my own.

ThatWench

@atipofthehat Ugh. That's awful. As a woman who is 6'5" (before heels, which I don't wear that often), I have had remarkably few accusations of being transgendered/vestite/etc. The *one* experience I had with that was, actually, at a gay bar - me being cornered by a random dude on a tiny balcony who wouldn't let me by until I answered his, "Just tell me if you get periods."

I do, however, get "Sir"ed fairly often. Admittedly, it's usually in the winter, when I generally wear men's coats (women's coats don't have sleeves nearly long enough).

apples and oranges

a doctor in the trailer says, of one 12 year old girl's height projection, "obviously that's a body size that a girl can't be happy with"
WHAT !?!?! if he were my doctor I'd go ballistic :( Plus it weird me out that you would take medicine to stop your bones from growing. Like, what? please let's just let our bodies do their thing.

also I'm on the short side and spent all of middle school/most of high school WISHING to grow more. own it, tall ladies!

MerelyGoodExpectations

@kayarr I'm supa-skeptical of those height projections, too. When I was little, the pediatrician told my parents I'd be 6' (at least!) and they'd have a basketball player on their hands, for sure. Turns out they got a 5'7" theater nerd instead.

laserbeams

@kayarr I just realised my "height projection" was 6ft2in but I've stopped growing at 6ft. And I didn't have surgery. But that's about how much shorter these girls are than their height projections with surgery. :\

gravie

@kayarr I was also projected to be 6 feet tall when I was younger! Ended up being 5'8" at 13 and haven't grown taller since.
Maybe the height projection technologies have improved since I was little, but I definitely wouldn't treat them as more than a good guess.

bookbike

@kayarr My doctor is the worst at projections, I think - he predicted I would be around 5'11"-6' and that my brother would be around 5'9". My parents were concerned that my brother would have some kind of height-animosity, until I was still 5'2" at sixteen.

Porn Peddler

I am a tiny girl. Under five feet tall! The next time some strange old man walks into my store and says, "You're TINY!" I'm going to jump over the counter and tear open his throat. with my teeth.

atipofthehat

@Third Wave Housewife

How about: "And you're old. I win!"

Porn Peddler

@atipofthehat I've considered this. "Wow, you're OLD/fat/whatever." Really, the tearing out of the throat seems so much more satisfying.

atipofthehat

@Third Wave Housewife

"...But, in the morning, I shall be sober.”

Polina

@Third Wave Housewife I love this. If people say unwelcome shit about me, I think it's perfectly acceptable to turn it around on them. They might not, but whatever.

Porn Peddler

@Polina They might not, but they started it.

Unfortunately, this often happens at work, and it's not usually a good idea to say things like that to people who might be providing the money on your paycheck. But if it's someone going into the arcade? Fuck them, they're getting a taste of the Bitch Pudding.

Polina

@Third Wave Housewife Oof. Yeah. My last office job had a lot of ladies who liked to comment on everything. It was the epitome of Not Fun. Edit: not that guys don't also say shitty stuff. But it always felt so cutting coming from the ladies.

Porn Peddler

@Polina I have one co-worker who comments on how tiny I am CONSTANTLY in conversation, and I want so badly to say something, but how do you do that without sounding like you're getting pissy about it? I know she doesn't realize how much it bothers me but I feel like there's no way to say that without the offending person ending up feeling awkward.

Nutmeg

@Third Wave Housewife During the Halloween Snow Disaster of CT I was outside of a shelter (in earflap hat and XXL down jacket, obvs) and lit up a cigarette. This guy was staring at me and I thought he was going to go all smoking-police on me until he said, "I didn't realize you were an adult, and I was so shocked that this little kid was smoking!" WHAT, why would you ever tell someone that; also, ever since my Rolfing sessions I am almost 5'3", I WILL HAVE YOU KNOW

Polina

@Third Wave Housewife Yeah, that stuff is super awkward. Especially because whenever I've told people they're hurting my feelings the reaction tends to be "No! I love how you look! I'm complimenting you!" and just. Don't. Get. It.

ELECTROMAGNETIC CHAOS

@Third Wave Housewife: Just reply "I am HUGE, motherfucker!" then start doing muscle poses, and don't even stop - go right into awkwardville, until they agree that you are indeed all swole.

frigwiggin

@Third Wave Housewife There's a guy in my office who's 6'7" and I have to imagine that he gets tired of having his height commented on real quick. There are a couple of coworkers who continuously make a big deal out of it and I just sort of cringe. Whyyy don't people think about what they're saying?

dipsomaniacal

@Third Wave Housewife I just took it and ran with it, honestly. When my very tiny best friend moved away and left me the uncoveted title of Shortest in the Office, I turned it into a running joke about everyone who we interiewed: "Yes, but the important question is, are they shorter than I am?" Also, I do the muscle-flexing thing that Third Wave Housewife suggests. They are all terrified of me. :)

Well, not really. But the only thing to do is own it, it adds inches.

screwball cate

@Nutmeg Haha I have gotten that too. Once when I was in my early twenties I was at a casino with my grandma and security comes over, says they have a report of a "small child" at our table and ask for my ID. I easily passed for a teenager, sure, but a "small child"?!

hideously

I'm a medium-heighter - tall in the presence of tinies! - but my best friend all throughout high school was a 5'11'' stunna with a penchant for heels, and I always felt like a little sidekick.

punkahontas

@hideously I'm medium height too (5'7") but everyone always thinks I'm tall because my whole family and most of my friends (including guy friends) are pretty short. And my husband's family is TINY. They're like elves! (Seriously, his G-pop looks exactly like Bob Newhart in Elf.)

Porn Peddler

@hideously There was a girl in one of my classes in college who was about 6 feet tall and one day she came in wearing heels and talked about her height in relation to femininity and it was the greatest badass thing ever.

Bridget Smith@twitter

@punkahontas My sister is about 5'5", which makes her taller than most of her friends, but she has a complex about being short: my mom is 5'8", my dad 5'10", and I'm 5'11".

hideously

@punkahontas I once dated a guy whose grandfather was a tiny, dapper, zoot suit wearing Filipino man. I got to try one of his suits on and it was amazing!

sarah girl

@Bridget Smith@twitter This is totally me! I'm 5'6", but everyone else in my family (two parents, four siblings) is taller than me. :(

D.@twitter

@punkahontas Also 5'7"...it definitely seems to be one of those heights where everyone thinks you're actually inches taller, especially guys, in my experience.

fabel

@D.@twitter This is very true, I'm 5'7" and I've had people estimate much taller (like 5'10").

fabel

@D.@twitter Also, I am taller than all my close female friends, so it's always startling to stand next to a woman who's ACTUALLY the height that everyone assumes me to be.

pterodactgirl

@D.@twitter Yes. This. I'm 5'6'' which seems fairly average to me. I get called "tall" a surprising amount though. I always want to be all "2 inches over the national average is not tall!" but then I think about it and realize I kind of like feeling tall. In the past when I traveled to short countries (China, Latin America) I got a secret kick out of being the tallest person in stores, subway cars, etc. I felt so cool!

Ellie

I am also 5'7"! I think it's a great height. You're taller than most girls (even if you're not tall enough to be a model), but definitely shorter than most guys. It's perfect.

However my mom's side of the family is Dutch and I am practically the shortest person in the entire extended family. Also my brother and his wife are both really tall and their three sons are all taller than I am now so I feel a little short on family visits.

D.@twitter

@Ellie Kate Moss is only 5'7"! As long as you don't top 114 lbs., you've got a chance...:P

New Hoarder

@hideously I am also on the "tall" side of average- 5'6". However, I am somehow Glamazon-tall when compared to other women (and sometimes men) when I commute into work on the Metro and trains in DC, even though I am always in flats or flip-flops. It's kind of depressing. DC is full of short, black-clad people (I wear bright colors to be obnoxious!). IN NYC though, I am back to being delightfully stumpy. =-I

Katie Heaney

Wooow, these girls have me beat! I'm 6 feet tall but I think it's just grand and all my ladyfriends come up to the perfect height on me for hugs. ALSO one time a billion year-old man came up to me in the grocery store and was like "Excuse me miss, can you help me reach that bag of flour?" and pretty much that made it all worth it.

Bridget Smith@twitter

That's amazing. I will totally go see this. I'm 5'11", which is not ridiculous (there are even tall clubs I'm too short to join!), but I grew up in a super-Italian area where the average height for girls was about 5'3". It does very weird things to your self-image: looking vaguely like the girls in magazines meant NOTHING compared to looking so dramatically different from the pretty girls in my high school.

One of the things I love about it, though, is the instant camaraderie I tend to have with other tall girls. My best friend from college is 6' (though the reasons I love her are many and varied), and my current roommate is 6'3". Which of course means I can go out wearing high heels and not have to stoop double to have a conversation! Love it.

DH@twitter

@Bridget Smith@twitter

Hahaha yes. All photos of me with friends from high school and college show me leaning down sideways so we can link arms or whatever. XD

laserbeams

@Bridget Smith@twitter Yes! I just found out one of my Twitter friends is tall and I now feel such a sense of sisterhood.

Bridget Smith@twitter

@DH@twitter Heh, I love all the photos where my high school friends reach my shoulder. (Back then I sort of hated it.) College was even better because there was me and my 6' friend, but the other 3 girls in our group were like 5'1". It was genuinely hilarious and we all loved it!

insouciantlover

@Bridget Smith@twitter I looooove tall girl camaraderie.

lucille-mcgillicuddy

I'm 5'9" - so not that tall. But I was completely grown by the time I was 11½. That sucked.

DH@twitter

@lucille-mcgillicuddy

Wow! That does seem like it would suck. I was always tall for my age but I grew pretty steadily until I was 14 or so. Then I shot up two inches and stopped. My youngest cousin is 13 and she's already my height (5'10). I don't think she's done growing yet either.

Bebe

@lucille-mcgillicuddy Oh man. I guess I should stop whining about how hard it was to be 5'6" and 130lbs in the 8th grade.

honeybadger

@lucille-mcgillicuddy me too! i was the tallest kid in school until high school.

Polina

@lucille-mcgillicuddy Yup. I was fully grown by the time I was 12. That novelty wore off in about five minutes.

Porn Peddler

Also, I understand that when you're nearly six feet tall as a small child, one might want to rule out serious endocrine problems and also bodily autonomy blah blah but it makes me sick to know how many of these girls are taking drugs and getting knee surgeries (FUCKING KNEE SURGERY IS HORRIBLE) to stop growing! :(

It's so bizarre how people think it's fine to comment on your body if it's something they think is either innocuous or positive, as in, "You are so tall!" "Your legs are so long!" "You are so short!" "You are so skinny!" Not really at all a cool thing to be the size of a sixth grader and trying to function in a professional setting. Oh look, you're a total peanut! How cute! Isn't this patronizing?!

Bridget Smith@twitter

@Third Wave Housewife THIS. "Oh, wow, you're so tall!" Really? I hadn't noticed. I thought that my ability to look across a room and see over the heads of EVERYONE in it was totally normal! Also, you're the first one to ever point it out!

But I never say that, because it's rude, and matching rudenesses never works out well. Also, I understand that even if this is an ancient and frustrating conversation for me, it might be the first time they're having it.

Porn Peddler

@Bridget Smith@twitter I'm afraid this might just become me ranting about people saying shit to me. Like yes, I can lift this box, I'm probably stronger than you. Yes I have my groceries, yes I am out of college, yes I am an adult, yes you should go fall in a ditch, yes, you should take me seriously. UGH.

atipofthehat

@Bridget Smith@twitter

A teacher once told me that one should never, ever criticize something about a person that is intrinsic and can't be changed. I've found it to be wonderful advice, since it puts the focus on people's attitudes and accomplishments and ideas and spirit rather than the shape of their nostrils and so on....

Argyle

@Third Wave Housewife Yes! I am a relatively tall girl, and nearly every time I wear heels to the office, someone gives me the "OMG you're so tall" schtick. Really? It's not a complement. You are noticing something about my body and making a remark. Think before you speak.

Polina

@atipofthehat "A teacher once told me that one should never, ever criticize something about a person that is intrinsic and can't be changed." Good lord, why isn't this taught everywhere? Tack it on to the pledge.

@Argyle Yeah, and it's funny how often people take it as a personal affront, as if you're trying to make them feel bad for being shorter. Not so!

H.E. Ladypants

@Third Wave Housewife Sadly, this does not really change even when you are a tall, broad-shouldered lady like me! (The lifting heavy objects, I mean.) I have had many, many moments in my life when I have wanted to look at someone and say, "excuse me, have you actually SEEN me? Of course I can carry this."

rubyslippers

@Polina & Argyle: "it's funny how often people take it as a personal affront"
SO TRUE! I'm 6 ft (and some change) and EVERY TIME I wear heels, someone angrily asks me "Why are you wearing heels?!" Um... because I want to and they make my legs look awesome? The same reason every other woman wears heels? Because they make me feel pretty?
I was in a wedding recently and one of the groomsmen wouldn't let it go (and I wasn't even walking with him). After arguing for a while, I just shoved my flowers in his face and gave him my back. Enjoy the view of THE MIDDLE OF MY BACK a-hole.

Polina

@rubyslippers Because heels are HOT? And we're allowed to wear hot things too! And it's a special triumph to find really hot shoes in our size!

SarahDances

@atipofthehat I just make it a policy not to comment on anyone's body, ever, except for "You look great!" when appropriate. Note: compliment not to be followed by "Have you lost weight?"

ThatWench

@rubyslippers Heh. The thing is, I sometimes do it as a personal affront. As in, I often start new jobs with more emphasis on looking "good" (read: narrowly-defined DC professional), but I'm not actually that much of a fan of heel-wearing in the office (uncomfortable!). However, I've had jobs where the heel-wearing elicited the "Why are *you* in heels?" and it significantly increased my tendency to wear them.

Why am I in heels? Because it makes insecure little men uncomfortable. (Actually, the really short guys love it, it's the ones who *think* they're tall that get annoyed. So I annoy them further.)

insouciantlover

Hi. I'm about 6'3". That's 189 centimeters.

I'm in my 30s so the height thing isn't as novel (read: fucking awkward) as it used to be. For one, the internet exists so I can find pants that are long enough! That's pretty cool.

I just saw a brief clip of the trailer where the girl said "189 cm sounds good but 190 sounds way too tall, doesn't it?" and holy fuck could I relate to that. I spent most of my 20s longing to be a normal height, something reasonable like 5'11".

insouciantlover

@insouciantlover Also, I hit 6 feet tall at 14 years old but my breasts developed between ages 17 and 22 which is just plain fucked up.

Monkey

@insouciantlover Ohhh girl I'm only ("only!") 6' but if I had a dollar for all of the minutes of my life that I spent thinking "if I was only just 5'10" everything would be PERFECT" I would be rich enough to have one of those shin-shortening surgeries. I mean, I probably wouldn't have it. But if I did I would only be 5'10", so.

ranran

@insouciantlover I dunno, I was 5'10" at that age AND had breasts and hips, but that just made me seem like the ugliest, most awkward 20-year-old ever.

Ovelle

@insouciantlover Arn't we funny creatures? I'm a little above 5'11" and I would have KILLED when I was younger to be 5'9", it was my dream height!

I also feel for your belated breast development, I also didn't grow a pari until much later, but to be honest, I miss being smaller so I didn't look so statuesque next to the boys I dated.

insouciantlover

@ranran Honey, I fully believe that it's possible that we both were horrifically awkward at that age.

insouciantlover

@Ovelle Oh yeah, in photos not only am I taller than everyone but my chestal area takes up half the frame. Ees okay though, I love my sweater puppies.

I think it's pretty hilarious how common it is that us tallies wished to be just a tiny bit shorter because of how much more normal it seemed to us.

DH@twitter

@insouciantlover

SAME. I was a beanpole who was often mistaken for a boy all through high school. Taller than nearly everyone else and straight-up-and-down.

ranran

@insouciantlover Ugh, good point!

H.E. Ladypants

@Ovelle I'm a 5'9 who has many times dreamed of being 5'6 or 5'7!

The grass. It is always greener on the slightly shorter girl.

Tits McGee is on Vacation

@Ovelle I hear ya there. I was a late bloomer on both the height and breast front. I was the most awkward 18-20 year old ever. 5'11, 38DDD and a (former) athlete. I was a huge tomboy and all I heard for years was remarks about how I should go work at Hooters and how I must loooove the attention. I didn't date because boys at that age are awful and I hated my body. Then I got a breast reduction right before my 21st birthday.
Best.thing.I.ever.did. All that said, I love being tall and now it cracks me up when I hear that I look like an amazon... if they only knew.

ThatWench

@insouciantlover As a 6'5" girl (195 cm), I've never wished to be one inch shorter. I wish for a lot of other things - taller sinks in public bathrooms, taller showerheads in motel rooms, less-tiny-cramped tables in restaurants, etc.

But I'm putting in the shout-out for tall, proud, and horrified by the idea of choosing painful surgeries to fit obnoxiously narrow definitions of what "should" be. (Or even stupid people who in any way suggest my glorious altitude is in any way a bad thing.) When I was five, I declared I wanted to be taller than my 6'4" father, and then I achieved my goal, and it was awesome.

Megasus

That surgery is horrible! Why would you do that unless you were going to be so tall you'd fall over or something!?
I'm about 5'9", so not crazy tall, but taller than most women. The only time it's really weird is if I'm in an elevator with like a 4 foot asian woman, and then I feel like a big gangly giant.

Lily Rowan

@Megan Patterson@facebook Also 5'9", and once had to take a former Olympic gymnast around my office. I felt like the abominable snowman walking behind her.

formergr

@Megan Patterson@facebook I'm 5'8" (female) and in college someone once tried to set me up at a party with a male gymnast who was at least a full foot shorter than me. He turned around when she tapped him on the shoulder to make the introduction, and we both looked sort of surprised and a little terrified and then had an incredibly awkward 2 minute conversation before he fled.

I feel bad now that it felt so strange at the time (I've since met plenty of smaller people as an adult and didn't even think twice about it), but I was a freshman, and hadn't quite mentally grown into my height and boobs (which his height put exactly at eye-level)yet, so it just felt so very awkward.

The Lady of Shalott

I am of totally average height (5'6') but for some reason people refuse to believe this of me. I don't know why. I mention this to people and they go "What, not really! No you're not!" and I have to show them my license to prove it. Dude! They measured me at the doctor's office! I don't slouch! I wear a lot of heels! WHAT IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE.

Also, I really, really, really feel for tall ladies with long legs. I understand that you go through horrors to find pants that fit. I have the opposite problem of really short legs (seriously, I wear a 28" inseam), and I really really really wish there was a place where we could find pants made to order with WHATEVER INSEAM WE LIKED AND PANTS WOULD BECOME A MAGICAL PLACE

laserbeams

@The Lady of Shalott Also, leg room on public transport/at the cinema/etc is a nightmare. I'm 6ft and most of that seems to be my thighs. I keep sitting in the spaces reserved for disabled people on the bus because there's more legroom. I feel terrible about it but will obviously totally move if someone who needs the seat more than me gets on!

Porn Peddler

@The Lady of Shalott My boyfriend falls victim to the exact same phenomenon. He's 5'10.5" which is pretty average for men in the US. Everyone thinks he is about 7 feet tall when they see him. He has huge broad shoulders and a narrow waist (very triangular. but with legs. long ones.) and he's also maybe 150 pounds and all limbs, so he looks reeeeeally tall. I have arguments with people all the time about this. "Mister? NO WAY. He is not 5'10.5, get out, that's ridiculous. He is so tall! I know you have been living with him for a year and have probably been privy to this information at some point, probably even seen his driver's license and been to doctor's visits and such but come on he is obviously taller than that." WHY WOULD I LIE ABOUT THAT. I guess it doesn't help that I'm under five feet tall, either, so he looks comparatively enormous.

LeafySeaDragon

@The Lady of Shalott new york and company! tell everyone! their tall pants are heaven.

themegnapkin

@The Lady of Shalott I think average height for a woman in the US is 5'4", so you're actually tall? I'm 5'3", and I have disproportionately short legs - about a 27" inseam. My problem is that even when I find pants that are the right length (Delia's for jeans), or (more frequently) have them shortened, I look like Stumpy von Stumpylegs if I don't wear heels. And I can't wear heels regularly, b/c of various foot issues. So, it's always skirts for me :(.

Bridget Smith@twitter

@laserbeams OH MY GOD PLANES. I don't get it. With my back flush against the seat and perfectly straight, my knees are STILL pressed against the seat in front of me.

My 5'5" sister was once in the exit row of a plane, which she was thrilled about, until this 6-and-a-half-foot man came up to them all begging to switch seats. He offered her $500 to trade. She did, of course, but couldn't take his money.

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@The Lady of Shalott Same, I think shorter girls say they're 5'6" to seem taller? So when we say we're 5'6" we're catching them in a lie?

The Lady of Shalott

@themegnapkin I have had a lot of luck with finding Gap pants in the right lengths, actually. Usually I get them in the "Short" length which is kind of dispiriting but literally the only pants I've bought since I was 14 years old that I haven't had to have shortened? Come from Gap. I am slowly coming to terms with being stumpylegged.

@Xaxa Who are these short girls trying to say they're 5'6 to seem taller???? And...why? Surely just saying something does not make it true. Life is not like Beetlejuice. Why can't we all just say what height we really are and rock it?

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@The Lady of Shalott Guys do it more (lesson learned from online dating), but girls lie about their height too. I guess from wanting to be "the ideal".

Bebe

@The Lady of Shalott Ugh, i get that too! And then I get, "Only 5'6"? What? Take off your shoes, let me see!" They're just heels, people. It's not a magic trick.

And, I also have disproportionately short legs. We're stumpy-leg-height twins!

laserbeams

@Bridget Smith@twitter Planes are awful. I have plotted violent, bloody revenge against every person who sits in front of me on a plane and reclines their seat. But of course I couldn't ever carry any of the fantasy out due to my ENTIRELY SMASHED KNEECAPS. Urgh.

Polina

@laserbeams Ugh. I was on a flight where the person in front of me put his seat down before take off. Which, you know, is a no-no obviously. And I was just like really? ALREADY?! I have to deal with you anyway, but you're going to start this shit now? I complained and no one did anything. And he was allowed to keep it that way for take off. WTF. I was also in the last seat on a British Airways flight and my seat DID NOT GO DOWN. And the person in front of me did not care for my plight either. Goddamnit.

Faintly Macabre

@The Lady of Shalott See, I always sit in such a way where I can feel people start to move their seat and stiffen my legs so they can't fling their head into my lap. So many people don't seem to realize that it's not just empty space back there, ugh.

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@Polina Airplanes are a social free for fall. I was recently on a 10+ hour overnight flight sitting beside someone who was too big for his seat. When his elbow would creep too far over on my side I would turn up the brightness on my ipad out of spite. Then on the 4+ hour connection I was beside a loud snorer...

Polina

@Xaxa Yeah, they are. And in hindsight, it was sort of bratty of me to think that the guy on the BA flight would put his chair up, since then he would be in the same position with the person in front of him. But wahhhh it was a 10.5 hour flight. It's so rare to have an uneventful flight!

dustwindbun

@The Lady of Shalott 28" is NOT a short inseam to anyone except pantsmakers who assume that everyone wears 5-inch heels. Talk to me about your short legs when you get down around 25" inseams like me.
(of course I am 5 feet tall. but I look 'normal-sized' when sitting and my shortness only shows when I stand up.)
( <3 u )

Megoon

@themegnapkin Yeah. I kind of want to hit tall people when they complain about not being able to find pants that are long enough. I mean, they probably also want to hit ME when I complain about trying to find pants that are short enough, but they still sound to me like, "ohhhh, my poor culturally exalted long legs are just toooooo lusciously long! I wish I had stumps like yours."

Polina

@Megoon Uh, yes, we do want to hit you. :) Cause it's equally as hard to find clothes (not just pants) that fit tall people. I don't know what they put on those runway models, but the clothes I can afford to buy are unabashedly made for people shorter than me (and people taller than you). Pretty limited range. Also, edit: I'm a little sour on this (sorry) but just because someone has a "culturally exalted" feature doesn't mean they don't have a really out of order self image or don't get bullied because of it. We're all losers in this body image thing.

Inkling

@Third Wave Housewife Congratulationshowwonderful @ the description of your man. Nom nom nom.

insouciantlover

@Megoon Being a woman over six feet tall is only "culturally exalted" in the imaginations of a select few very short men and women. Did you see the preview? How the doctor said that no girl would want a future where she was 6'3"? Ugh, just stop.

Faintly Macabre

@Polina Yeah. I'm guessing that models get pretty different judgment/comments on their bodies than your average tall woman. Spoken as someone who spent most of high school with her pant hems flapping around her ankles.

insouciantlover

@Faintly Macabre Right? I went through all of high school with one pair of jeans that were almost long enough for me and my peers were very generous about pointing this out.

Polina

@Faintly Macabre @insouciantlover Our school had a really strict dress code. Really strict. Or essentially enabling the disgusting, with male teachers saying "I can see you're not wearing a bra" to my bff. Guess who often got in trouble for a gap between their pants and their shirt? I went home crying so many days because my cheap clothes would shrink or I had committed the crime of trying to wear something cute and trendy even if it didn't fit PERFECTLY and I would get yelled at for it.

And reading through all these comments I think we can safely say that being tall ladies (while exalted in some circles), we've had our fair share of unbelievable bullshit to deal with. Edited for my tons of mistakes.

insouciantlover

@Polina oh, you just reminded me of how I suppressed the memories of a coffee shop customer complaining to my boss about how he could see my belly (and more specifically, the hair on my belly that was visible in the small gap between the shirt hem and my jeans). Okay, filing it back away now.

Porn Peddler

@Inkcrafter I am quite proud, though I left out that he he has blonde (like, spun fucking gold blonde) hair down to his ass and a red mustache and beard. That seems to alternately horrify/thrill people.

Polina

@insouciantlover Man, file that shit. What a fucker. I hadn't thought of the dress code shame until just now as well. Lots of shitty tall girl shaming that has unearthed itself will have to be filed today.

Megoon

@Polina - Why do dudes' pants come in a million different lengths that are available at EVERY store, not just the 2 locations with a petites/tall section? THAT is annoying. Also, I think that the "petites" and "tall" sections should be renamed the "people who are not exactly 5'9" section."

Beck Rea@facebook

@The Lady of Shalott : I buy "ankle" length at Gap. And it still drags.

5'2", 28" inseam.

ARGH.

Faintly Macabre

@Megoon There are tall sections in stores? Do tell.

rubyslippers

@LeafySeaDragon: I know! I love their pants too but they always seem to fall apart so easily and fade really quickly. I don't know, maybe this is just me but the material feels flimsy. I could also be especially biased since I discovered a tear forming in the crotch of my NY&Co jeans last night...
@ all shorter people complaining about pants length: You know you can get your pants professionally altered for super cheap right? Tall people don't really have that option... It is a lot harder to ADD material than it is to take it away.

insouciantlover

@Faintly Macabre There are not.

insouciantlover

@rubyslippers I keep meaning to do this... just to add to the information you likely already know.

Tall pant resources:

-gap.com has various pants with inseams of up to 37" length like these cute pink cords I keep eyeballing (online only for tall)
- Rock and Republic jeans are consistently longer than most other comparably priced jeans. Some styles are a measly 34" inseam but I have a couple pairs that are more like 36".
- tallcouture.com lists their jeans by inseam! I don't tend to buy from them anymore because I'm a sucka for a sale and they rarely have them.
- Alloy.com - this is the holy grail of cheap pants for talls. They have a trazillion styles available in 37" inseam. Pro: they carry a wide array of sizes Con: they tend to be cut for juniors because DAMN they can be super low rise.

I have also lucked out at NY&Co and Diesel, but do not claim any consistency to this luck. I have a pair of Diesel sweatpants (I don't even know) that are super duper long.

rubyslippers

@insouciantlover: Thank you!
I wore gap jeans for forever but I could never find a pair that I REALLY liked. I am a broad tall person so I have consistently broad shoulders and hips. I couldn't find a pair that fit in the hips (too tight) AND the thighs (WAY too loose). I hate pants with saggy butt/thighs.
Yes, I had noticed that Alloy has long jeans but I am a lady with hips and super low rise inspires a certain level of terror within me. I'll probably try them anyway now that a fellow amazon has recommended them though :)

Bridget Smith@twitter

@rubyslippers I was just about to say this! Yeah, it'll cost you extra money/time/annoyance to get your pants hemmed. But at least it's possible. (And I HATE when people say, "Oh, you can dress like a model!" You think I have the money for that? They get the clothes for free.)

Fortunately(?), I seem to have rather short legs for my height: Gap jeans in the tall sizes are too long without heels! I can buy the regular length skinnies. :D Conversely, this means my torso is extra long and with pretty much every dress ever the extra hip space hits riiight around my waist. Yay.

Inkling

@Third Wave Housewife
Eeeyyarrgh euurggh nooo :c
So much for THAT fantasy, shucks.

TeresaOtter

I am not very tall by these standards, but at 5'6" I am taller than my husband, the majority of my closest friends, and most of my family (except my towering brother). Is it terrible that I actually wish I was taller? I think 5'9" would be great. I think tall ladies are awesome! All that leg!

Patrices Pieces

@TeresaOtter Yes! I am 5'6 and 5/8" (I know that's obnoxious), and I wish I was taller. I would be so authoritative! How I long to truly be 5'7" at least (which is what I usually say I am) Sometimes though, I wish to be a dainty, feminine lady, so that my husband could pick me up and twirl me around instead of groaning and making a show of how difficult it is! Then again, if I were taller I could best him at something physical, for once, ever. Oh, I shall never be happy!

laserbeams

Oh, my God, I'm horrified by the idea of getting medical procedures to stop you growing ... especially because it seems to hardly make any difference, anyway.

I'm 6ft but also fat, so that's fun.

H.E. Ladypants

@laserbeams I'm 5'9" and I have some curves goin' on. Which I like! I enjoy feeling hourglassy and sometimes cheesecakey. But it's always a weird feeling when I hear tall lady praise and it's all full of words phrases like leggy and gazelle-like. Then I feel a bit weird like. "Oh. No. I'm not that sort of tall. Just a lady in a size large."

It doesn't help that I'm insanely not graceful, either. OH WELL.

laserbeams

@H.E. Ladypants Yeah, I know that feeling. Although 5'9" is the height I always thought I'd like to be.

LauraJ

@laserbeams @H.E. Ladypants MY PEOPLE. I am 5'11'' and emphatically NOT of the leggy gazelle type, plus I'm a klutz and can't really do the organized sports thing. Growing up, people always asked whether I played basketball or volleyball since I was so tall. And I had to be all, well, actually it's academic decathlon and drama club for me. Triple threat--tall, chubby AND nerdy! You don't come across that every day!

laserbeams

@LauraJ Haha, yeah, right there with you on the nerdy thing, too.

Plus I wear glasses, and had braces at school. School was basically torture.

teenagewerewolf

@laserbeams You find the same thing with shortness too - I'm short and chub, and you can hear people talking about tiny petite teacup ladies and I think "nope, not talking about me!" And then stores don't sell anything above a 10 in the petite section because they think we're all built like Liz Taylor.

And then people don't believe me when I say I'm 5'1" because I don't fit their idea of what a "tiny person" is!

LauraJ

@laserbeams I think we had the same adolescence...I, too, wear glasses and my teeth were so screwed up I had to have braces TWICE. Praise jeebus for adulthood!

hairspin

This made me so fucking sad.

itmakesmewonder

@hairspin Agree a thousand times.

insouciantlover

oh wow I just got to Sarah, projected to be my height, whose body looks EXACTLY like mine did at that age (I even had braces) and she's getting surgery because the doctor doesn't think she could possibly be happy at 6'3".

Sarah, I guess it's too late but he's wrong.

insouciantlover

@insouciantlover fuck that was like looking into an alternative past.

you're a kitty!

5'11" here. Even if you're just on the tall side, like me, you tend to grow into a slouch even if you've always consciously liked being tall. It wasn't until college that I decided, screw everyone, I was going to wear heels and like it, and try to fix my posture (still working on that last one).

Now, if I could JUST ONCE leave the house in a pair of perfectly rational 3" heels without some guy or other making a comment about it, thaaaaat would be great.

LeafySeaDragon

@you're a kitty! also 5'11, i can't wear heels. i went to a funeral about a year ago in 1" heels. i spent two hours responding to, "YOU'RE SO TALL!" i was in tears by the end of the night. and barefoot.

Bridget Smith@twitter

@you're a kitty! "Why are you wearing heels? It's not like you need them." Because I LIKE THEM, shut up, you don't get to choose for me. It's not my fault if it makes you feel inadequate.

you're a kitty!

@LeafySeaDragon Aw! No-slouch-required hugs to you. Really, you gotta just say "fuck'em." I found that the more "You shouldn't wear heels" comments I got from random guys (seriously!!? WHO SAYS STUFF LIKE THAT), the more I started to like wearing them. I also realized that whenever I saw other tall girls in heels, I wanted to high-five them. So I guess it's my dumb little way of representin'.

But if there's ever a perfect example of how women dress for themselves rather than for guys, it's tall girls in heels.

atipofthehat

@you're a kitty!

There is nothing wrong with tall women, in heels or out.

you're a kitty!

@Bridget Smith@twitter I think guys also don't understand that heels are mostly not there to make you taller. They make your walk sexier and your legs and butt look better and they go with outfits that demand them. I'm always amazed at how a pair of even perfectly reasonable heels will take a look from schlubby to pulled-together. It's amazing.

LeafySeaDragon

@you're a kitty! well, i can't wear heels but dammned if i slouch! :)

you're a kitty!

@LeafySeaDragon I can't wear them either, lately (stupid bunions!) but in my head I'm still wearing 'em :)

Beericle

@Bridget Smith@twitter THIS! Yes. And I kinda like being the tallest person in the room (in heels) I can see everything and intimidate anyone I want to. Hey has anyone ever considered in response to the 'You're so tall.' nonsense coming back with 'And you are so short/stubby/stumpy'

Faintly Macabre

@you're a kitty! Yes, yes to all of your points! I'm 5'10" and after I realized how comfortable wedge heels are, I've been buying more and more 2.5-3" heels. I wore a pair of 3" stilettos to a fancy thing and was delighted to see even taller girls swanning around in even higher heels. I also have giant feet, and high heels put that length to good use!

However, I still get constant nagging about it from my mom, who I think thinks I'll never find a husband if I walk around being 6'1". And when I mentioned wearing 3" heels to a shortish guyfriend, he looked disgusted and said, "Why would you ever do THAT?"

ormaisonogrande

@Bridget Smith@twitter 5'10" here and I almost always wear heels when I go out. I get that comment all the time, and seriously I don't think anyone over the height of like 5'6" or so actually wears heels to be taller. We wear heels because they make our legs look hotter, they're usually cooler looking than flats, and they make us look like we can kick your ass. We don't wear them because we want to be 6'1" or whatever. What the hell.

edited to add: p.s. my boyfriend is 5'7"

Mariah Mantis@twitter

@Berricle YES! I am 5'11 and a lawyer. I am not a courtroom lawyer but I definitely bust out the heels when I'm doing Official Lawery things. The 2" heels make people 1. pay attention to me; 2. listen to me and (hopefully); 3. slightly intimidated.

Although 6" boyfriend said he thought heels were sexy but then was slightly weirded out by my being an inch taller than him, sooooo...eh. Whatevs. I wear 'em anyway.

H.E. Ladypants

@Mariah Mantis@twitter I have this weird dream of being able to wear heels and not have them be an object of intimidation but just be... cute shoes.

I love the sound they make and how they make me walk but I get tired of how wearing them also turns into a comment on my height.

I own a exceptionally collection of ballet flats.

becomeriver

@Bridget Smith@twitter OMG yes. This. A woman should not be forced to reject Cute/Hot/whatever shoes just because she is tall and they make her taller. My 5'10" self will ROCK those 4.5"-with-a-ruffled-T-strap-and-a-.5"-platform heels with pride and confidence, thank you very much. Why? Because I LIKE IT.

Megoon

@Beericle My super super tall friend does, in fact, respond to "you're so tall" with, "and you are SO SMALL!!!!!!!!!" But only when reeeeealllly drunk.

LauraJ

@becomeriver just YES to all of this! As a 5'11-er, I am still working through my issues with wearing "real" heels. My husband (who is also 5'11) thinks it's great, but I do get so freaking sick of the comments.

And even though I'm tall, I never slouch. This is because when I was growing up if I ever slouched, my grandmother would whack me (hard, for a grandma) between the shoulder blades and yell and me to stand up straight, keep my head up and be proud. Of course I was all eye-rolly at the time but am so grateful for it now.

joie

@LauraJ Your grandma was a genius! There's not many things in life that don't seem more bearable when standing straight and tall, chin up, nose in the air. Even if you don't feel like it inside.

Patrices Pieces

@you're a kitty! Some of those people are just insensitive clods, like me, that mean it like a compliment. I'm cringing, because I know I've said it to a tall girl before. I just meant it like I would say, your eyes are so blue, or something. Sorry!

you're a kitty!

@ballbiscuit Hahah, it's okay! It's different coming from women, and usually when people mean it as a compliment it's pretty obvious - it's a very different thing when your male friends ALWAYS go, "Ugh, why are you wearing heels again, you shouldn't." Very different indeed, especially when you're eighteen.

Brunhilde

@Megoon I am tall and I do the "You're so TINY!!! I could fit you in my pocket!" in response to the "Wow you're tall" comments when I'm drunk as well. Not to all of them, but if a guy is talking to me while I'm sitting, and is suddenly disinterested when I stand up, I kind of feel like insulting him.

dipsomaniacal

@you're a kitty! Wear the hell out of those heels, girl! I figuratively (and literally) look up to ANY lady in heels, because I am a Weeble. I have a friend who is 6'1" and can wear tremendous heels like a boss, and mostly I just marvel at her architectural integrity.

Alixana

I am 5'9" and rarely think much about it now, for all the pains it gave me in adolescence. And I mean literal growing pains -- almost all of my growth came in about 18 months, and I would wake up in the night screaming from the pain in my legs. Ouch.

I have a dear friend who is 6'4" and lovely and marvelously at ease with herself. She is the tallest woman on this amazing chart: http://www.cockeyed.com/photos/bodies/heightweight.html.

atipofthehat

@Alixana

Wow, what a beauty!

LeafySeaDragon

this trailer was incredibly depressing. i'm 5'11, and that's not such a huge deal as an adult. i was at least 6" taller (sometimes a foot) than other girls and kids in all my school photos. i still can't hear the words large or huge without cringing. i have been called a "big girl" my whole life and i hate it. i still struggle with binging. the reason? #ridiculousrpobems i get too much attention when i get too thin. oh to be 5'3. i dated some real prizes of shorter guys (who can be awesome, but reality check - there is truth to the short men tall women thing).

my kids came out and 9 and 12 pounds, they are big boys (i think the both hit the 250th% at some point). somehow a tall girl is mannish and large, and stupid (what?) but a large boy is also a bully and stupid. i think it comes from being so much larger than others of the age group. it leads other adults to think you are older, therefore need to be better behaved than the children that you tower over. when my youngest (giant) baby was little, prolly up until he was 3 i had to answer almost daily that no, he did not have a hormonal problem to random strangers.

Polina

@LeafySeaDragon This. Other kids were so awful about me being tall. I was a string bean and tall, which gave me a huge complex and led to me trying to put on ridiculous amounts of weight because I felt so unbelievably abnormal.

Also my sister's baby was 11 lbs when he was born, and even friends were like OMG! Did you have gestational diabetes?! And it was just like have you not seen her? And her husband? Both are over 6'2"? WTF, people.

highcuts forever!

@LeafySeaDragon I'm 5'9 now, so I'm definitely on the tall side, but I was always a really tall kid. Since I apparently looked about 5-6 years old at the age of 3. My mother has told me that she would have random strangers come up to her in stores and give her crap for my behaviour - "your child is acting like a 3-year-old!" Awesome...

contrary

@highcuts forever! Oh god, that was me. By the time I was 12 I was about 5'8" and was pretty...developed. It garnered some pretty unwelcome attention from strangers who thought I was 16 or so.

LauraJ

@contrary the best thing that ever happened to me as a tall kid was that I basically looked like an adult from the age of about 14 and servers would offer me drinks! Like, at the bowling alley! When I was with a bunch of other kids from junior high! Instant street cred.

all the kittens in the club gettin nipsy

@LauraJ I come from a family of large, tall people. When my brother was 8 he was one of the youngest kids on the little league team, but also as tall as the (admittedly short) coach. They couldn't even find a uniform shirt to fit him, so my mom had to make one by ironing an applique number to an approximately coloured tshirt. When he was playing sometimes a parent from the other team would be all, "why is that teenager on the field?!" Now that he's fully grown, I am 5'11" and I come up to his shoulder.

all the kittens in the club gettin nipsy

Also, when my aunt was a 6' teenager, she would tell people she was 5'12".

cee
cee

oh man, German girls ending their sentences with ", oder?" is just the cutest thing.

I really appreciated the comment of the woman at the end of the trailer: "when you're taking your child to the endocrinologist every year and having them undergo testing, constant measurement, their growth chart... how do you get across the idea that 'you're okay'? that's not the message that comes through that experience."

Monkey

@cee Yes, this. I actually received endocrine treatment in adolescence and have spent an awful lot of time unpacking that shit in some serious therapy sessions, and I'm still not fully convinced that "I'm okay" and I doubt I ever fully will be.

julia

Did hairpin crash the tallgirls site? I really want to see the preview!

I'm 5'11 and can't count the number of guys who have told me there is "no way" I'm 5'11 because they are definitely 6' and I'm taller than them so...

My boyfriend is about the same height as me, maybe 1/2" shorter, and I am embarrassed by how long it took me to come to terms with this and stop slouching.

meganmaria

@julia Jane Marie has just been on a roll with crashing sites this week.

you're a kitty!

@julia OH MY GOD that happens all the time WHY are guys so deluded.

atipofthehat

@you're a kitty!

Because they also think they have eight inches.

LeafySeaDragon

@atipofthehat lolforever

alot of 6ft women will say they are 5'9 or 5'10, and the same men will declaim from the mountiantops thier 6footedness.

atipofthehat

@LeafySeaDragon

Many women I knew who modeled and were between 6'5" and 6'1" had 5'11" on their cards and in their books. Verbatim quote from the 6'5" lady: "I don't have breasts. I have nipples." She didn't seem to mind her height, the downplay was simply to get work.

mooseketeer

@julia hahahaha yes! I'm 5'10'' and that is also a common height 5'8'' dudes will claim. It breaks my heart to have to tell them that yes, I'm sure of my height and no, they aren't 5'10''

Faintly Macabre

@julia I had the opposite happen--a friend who was a few inches shorter than me all through high school (and who I kinda picked on, oops) shot up to 6'1" about 3 years ago. He recently asked how tall I was, and when I said 5'10", he insisted that I was taller than him, and we had to stand next to each other to compare. I guess I really did some damage in high school...

Bridget Smith@twitter

@julia I find the 6' psychological line FASCINATING. It's such a big deal for the people who are close to it: you have to be on the right side.

DianaPrince

@julia - Oh man, I'm also 5'11" and can't even count the number of times I've stood back to back with 5'10" guys who insisted they were 6 feet. I'm sure they still tell everyone they're six feet tall afterwards, so I don't feel too bad about temporarily bursting their imaginary little bubbles.

Clarisse McClellan

@Bridget Smith@twitter I want to be exactly six feet, not one side or the other. It would be such a perfect, even number.

sarabara

@julia HAHAH THEY ALL DO THAT. Every last one.

sorry dude, no way you are 6'1"...get over it.

M'fly

@Bridget Smith@twitter So true, I'm exactly 6' and I've alwaysalwaysalways wished to be just 5'11". With my current pregnancy-related back problems, I'm more like 5'11.5", which is hardly a noticeable difference, but psychologically I feel so much more feminine and pretty. (Which is nice, because it somewhat balances out the "omg I'm a fat cow" thoughts that I've been having after gaining 35-40lbs in 3 months.)

redheaded&crazy

@julia I lie about my height on dating sites because I find guys round up all the time.

Ruc-Wmj

@julia This, this so much. I've been somewhere in the range of 5'9"-10" since I was about 12, and it irritates me to no end when people are essentially like "Haha no way you're a giant."
I imagine part of the reason I hear this so much is because my male classmates are young. (Maybe? I want to believe it's because they're young.) Bah, high school(but yay senior year). Whatever, I rock being tallish.

On a side note, it makes me happy to see all the commenters of the hairpin chiming in on this, even though I'm late. But I'ma take my mushy feelings elsewhere. You're all awesome and I have no idea why it took me so long to de-lurk.

Dancercise

I'm 5'10". Usually I love it, but it does sometimes make ballroom dance awkward. Especially social dance, when a 5'5" guy asks me to dance, since he usually ends up staring into my boobs. Yay?

atipofthehat

@Dancersize

May I have this dance?

Dancercise

@atipofthehat
But of course.

ThatWench

@Dancersize I'll dance with you. (I'm 6'5", so you're my "boob height".)

But, yeah, as awesome as this is with friends (the boob-hugging, I mean), it does get super-awkward with strangers. I don't do social ballroom dance largely for this reason.

samigator

I'm 5'11" when I don't slouch (I'm always slouching), and I haaaaated it when I was younger. I love it now. It's so useful!

meganmaria

At 5'7", I'm a tall girl compared to my 4'11" diminutive family.

elizabeast

@meganmaria I'd kill to be 5'7".

Maybe not kill. (Maybe?) But being 5'2" has never really been fun or useful.

atipofthehat

@elizabeast

But there are times when it pays to be shorter!

chevyvan

I'm 5'9" and sometimes I love it and sometimes I hate it. I prefer to date guys who are taller than me (although I've seriously dated a shorter man) and it definitely cuts down my dating pool. I wish I could get over it, but so far I haven't. I really love being tall at concerts. It's pretty great.

Beericle

@chevyvan I hear you on the 'smaller' (hardy har) dating pool. Also, yes on concerts. However, all through school teachers made me sit in the back row - go to the back for pictures, etc. And I find I TOTALLY still do that today without thinking about it. I gravitate towards the back of the room.

H.E. Ladypants

@chevyvan For some reason nearly all the dudes I have ever dated have been at almost exactly my height.

I've also gotten the "oh I wasn't expecting those extra few inches" look when standing up from a bar stool and I hate it. I mean, I know said dudes are jerks but it's still demoralizing.

chevyvan

@H.E. Ladypants For some reason, I tend to attract the shortest guy in the room. And then I have to reject them. And then I feel bad. Again, I'm not proud of this physical hang up, but then if it's completely normative for guys to be like, "No fatties!" I'm not going to beat myself up too much about this.

Another advantage: I've found that being tall yields a "tell" from guys that I meet. If they ask me how tall I am, or comment on how tall I am, I know that they like me.

chevyvan

@Beericle Haha! Yes! I still head directly the the back row for pictures.

Ellie

@chevyvan I'm only 5'7" but I really think I could not (or would not) date a shorter guy. I've made out with a couple guys my height or like an inch shorter and I kept thinking about it, I think the shortest person I have ever had sex with is like 5'8" and I was also self conscious of that. My boyfriend is 6'1" which is a perfect height distance for me. ANYWAY, I know I am a terrible shallow person because of this.

redheaded&crazy

@chevyvan I'm 5'8 and have dated/crushed on quite a few guys who were just my height, even though in theory I prefer tall guys (and I've had crushes on them too).

If a guy is shorter than me, it's more or less a dealbreaker. I realize this is shallow, and probably missing out on a lot of guys who would be really good for me. With the guys who have been my height I'm always eyeing them up like WHICH OF US IS TALLER? THIS IS SO CRUCIAL.

ThatWench

@chevyvan See, this is one worldview thing that's always seperated me from so many other "tall" girls. I have 5'10 friends who still hew to the "must be taller than me" thing.

At 6'5, that's really never been an option for me. The closest I've gotten to anything romantic with a guy taller than me was a brief conversation in a karaoke bar, and he was clearly there with his 5'6" girlfriend. I suppose I have a minimum height requirement, but it's "if I have to really, actively bend over to kiss you, it probably won't work long-term."

But it relates to my favorite part about being tall: Guys who won't hit on me because of my height. I generally figure that if you're so insecure in your masculinity/narrow-minded in your definitions of femininity to rule me out based on my height, I'm really better off never having spoken to you in the first place. (I have a friend with a really obvious limp who celebrates the same thing.)

ThatWench

@ThatWench Ugh. No edits, so a disclaimer of "sorry if that came off extra-harsh." It's just a weirdly raw issue for me, since it seems like such a silly thing to impose on yourself. Like saying you could never date a blond guy, or a girl with big feet.

Polina

I'm 5'10". Which in the grand scheme of things is not even that tall, but people have generally treated me like a giant. I don't waste much time on this particular insecurity anymore, really. Although people can still say some pretty annoying shit. Actually, really annoying shit. And there are times when (even just being 5'10"!) the world feels like it was made for small people. Which could be replaced with tall for some people, I know. But it was a special kind of brutal being the tallest girl in most of school up until about 11th grade. Edit: also, I love it when I wear heels and people crow "you're TOO TALL!" Oh really? I'm so sorry. I can barely hear you up here.

all the kittens in the club gettin nipsy

You guys, can we have a ask-a-(tall)-femme moment here for a sec, and talk about TIGHTS? My fellow tall girls, where in the heck do you get tights? I'm only 5'11" but I end up busting any dept store tights, even though they claim to fit up to 6'3". I tried sockdreams also. Their tights seem to be the same size as the dept store ones, my long strides tore the crotch out of them after one day of moderate walking. I found awesome tights from a Canadian company called TallGirl but then they were bought out by the US Long Tall Sally and their tights are crap now. I'm willing to travel to find tights! Or pay exorbitant postage to ship them to Canada! Please help!

Faintly Macabre

@100kb Ugh, I always have this problem, too. I'm 5'10" and a bit pear-shaped, and Hue's size 3 or M/L sweater tights always fit me fine (they make a size 4 now, too, though it's rarer). Calvin Klein's, too, I think. Other brands not so much.

Polina

@100kb OMG YES. It's so hit or miss that I usually just end up buying the cheapest tights possible so that if they're a disappointment then I won't have shelled out a lot for them. Not tights, but recently I found high waisted leggings at Urban and they are awesome. They of course aren't high waisted at all for me, they're like regular size!

Lily Rowan

@100kb It did occur to me recently that I wear boots enough of the time that why don't I just buy footless tights and wear socks?
And I'm only 5'9"!!

Gertrude

@100kb I'm 5'11 with curves, and I've actually found that Spanx tights are amazing. I fall on the cusp of two sizes, and always choose the bigger one. The knockoff Target ones (called Assets, I think?) are also pretty great. They're not cheap, but you can usually find them at Nordstrom Rack on on ebay.

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@Gertrude Yet another reason to go on a roadtrip to the Target just across the border!

@Lily Rowan I once found some extra-long footless sweater-tights at NYC Uniqlo and I wear them constantly! They are the best, but they only had 2 pairs in the entire store. NYC tall ladies should definitely try them if you happen to find a pair.

Wearing boots all the time would be nice in the winter, except that I have trouble finding women's boots because of my foot size. I wear a lot of men's oxfords with skirts and dresses (which seems to be very popular right now with girls of all sizes).

DianaPrince

@100kb I'm 5'11" and buy all my tights (and I wear a lot of tights) at American Apparel. The large size is plenty long enough without being all bunchy at the waist. Plus the thicker opaque ones will last a long long time.

(And yes, I know the CEO is a skeezeball and probably a criminal, but I can't bear to go back to shitty department store tights or spending my money buying dozens of pairs of tights that don't fit trying to find one that does.)

laserbeams

@100kb I'm not convinced there is a good answer to this. I'm very pear-shaped and fat, as well as having super-long legs, so I've mostly given up on tights. Leggings and boots work for me.

all the kittens in the club gettin nipsy

@xx-xx-xx Oh, this is great news, I can go try these today! I hadn't thought of American Apparel tights because most of their other women's things seem built for short girls, so I assumed that was who they were aiming to fit. Yes, their CEO is gross but... I have a gift certificate.

Clarisse McClellan

@100kb I was surprised that Old Navy tights were the most comfortable and well fitting ones I've tried in a long time. I'm 5'11".

DianaPrince

@100kb - Hooray, I was helpful! I hope they fit!

contrary

@100kb HUE! I'm 5'10" and have a huge badonk and I've had great success with hue tights. also, they last forever if you hand wash them. I usually put a run in "normal" tights within the first hour (or, you know, just putting them on because I cannot be an adult lady), but I've only ever had to throw away a pair of hue tights because I put a hole in them doing stupid things like snagging them on chairs/my shoes/bracelets/beards/etc

M'fly

@contrary OOH I was just about to recommend Hue! I have some really cute knitted brown tights from them and they've actually lasted me dozens of wearings, which is pretty amazing for someone like me with a knack for putting runs in brand new tights.

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@J Keems@twitter @contrary I'm so excited that HUE has *colourrrrrrrsssss* I'm going to order all of them.

@contrary I'm also well-endowed in the backside, and I think that is a lot of the reason why I destroy tights so fast too. So glad to hear that Hue works for you! I'm excited to try them.

Can I just say how this thread has made my day? I'm the only tall femmey girl that I know, figuring out stuff like this by myself is often challenging. Yay for the Hairpin!

aliceandstuff

@100kb I am 6'0" and plus sized (20), but I get my black tights from justmysize and usually do not have problems with length. Actually, I also have some from We Love Colors that are TOO long and bunch up in weird ways around my ankles as a result.

Faintly Macabre

@100kb Haha, I am too, and I think that's what keeps most tights from being able to reach. Macy's sometimes has them on clearance for like $4 (sparkly! flowers!) and TJ Maxx gets loads of them for cheap in the fall. So far this year, I've bought metallic diamonds, white sweater tights, black sweater tights, burgundy tights, more glittery tights...

aliceandstuff

@Faintly Macabre It kills me that fashionable tights are the trend now since I want them all but plus-sized ladies only get a small fraction of the runover of awesome.

Faintly Macabre

@aliceandstuff Aw, I'm sorry. I was thinking about that the other day. I'm just tall, not plus-sized, and the "one-size" or M/L of most brands doesn't come close to fitting me, so I couldn't imagine how they'd fit plus-sized women or *gasp* tall and plus women. It's a crappy deal, especially since it's so much easier to find well-fitting skirts than pants when you're bigger on the bottom.

Lily Rowan

@Faintly Macabre My resolution this year is to not buy any hosiery that only comes in two sizes -- they never fit! If there are three or four, one of them usually actually includes both my height and my weight. Good times.

the angry little raincloud

@100kb Dance tights? I just bought a pair by the brand Bodywarmers (you can get them off various dance supply tights), and the large is very long. I'm only 5'7, but I can pull these tights up to my boobs. So they probably would be comfortable on a 6' lady at least. Another benefit: black dance tights tend to be very opaque and are generally very sturdy. And warm.

nowwhat

@100kb DKNY! They're tall enough but still controll-y enough everywhere that they need to be, and they're holding up well with regular use. I'm 6 feet tall, and they had such a range of sizes that I didn't even have to buy the largest and hope for the best, which is usually my tactic. (Plus they were on sale). I've also had some luck with Wolfords and Spanx too.

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Reporting back: there's a store down the street from my house and they had Hue size 3! And they fit perfectly! I'm waiting for next week's shipment, hopefully they'll have some size 3 in different colours. Everybody go buy Hue! They also have size 4 (though not much on their website). The opaques are actually opaque without being too thick. And they are reasonably priced, actually cheaper than the low-quality "Long Tall Sally" (hate! that! name!) brand that I'd been wearing. I recommend Long Tall Sally basic leggings, but nothing else from them.

mooseketeer

If you tall girls ever REALLY want to feel like a spectacle go to China. I was in Shanghai and had multiple people stop me on the street so they could get a picture with the tall white girl.

I'm 5'10'', it took some getting used to.

DianaPrince

@mooseketeer - I swear someone told me I was tall (or said it behind my back in Chinese, thinking I couldn't understand) EVERY SINGLE DAY of the entire four months I was in China. There are also about two dozen Chinese people with photos of themselves standing next to a 5'11" white girl they don't know.

The frequency was annoying, but when I finally came home I actually felt weirdly invisible and kind of sad about it.

Clarisse McClellan

@mooseketeer Yes. And when I was there, I was working with a guy who was maybe 6'4", so when we walked together we were extra spectacular.

Megoon

@mooseketeer It's not just white girls. One of my besties is a 6'7" Asian male and gets lots of photo requests when he goes to China. Back stateside, no pictures, at least one comment a day along the lines of, "hey! Yao Ming!"

M'fly

@mooseketeer Oh I bet! :( A friend of my dad's, who is a 6'+ lady with flaming red hair, was absolutely swarmed every time she went out during the years she lived in China. Her friends gave her a nickname that translated roughly as "enormous woman." I'm sure they meant it in a nice way, but still, ouch.

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I'm of medium height - 5'6" - but my mom's relatives are all 5'2" and under (men included), and my dad's relatives are all 5'9" and over, so depending on which side I am visiting, I am either a GIANT or a shrimp. I have to admit, I prefer being a giant. Which is why I wear such uncomfortable shoes.

oh, disaster

@Bebe That's me and my families, right down to the 5'6".

annaauld

Oh Hairpinners! I think we should find these girls, sit down with them and tell them that everything will be OK.. That when you grow up to be over 6', you will have annoying conversations with (usually) short insecure men about why you're wearing high heels. You'll also live much of life uncomfortable and soon learn to ensure hotel rooms don't have footboards. BUT, you'll love your body, people will always remember you, and grown-up dudes lovelovelove a tall lady. There are things you just can't do in bed unless you're the same height..... Find your tall neices&cousins now! Also, as a Brit in the US, just move to Europe, people are taller making clothes are easier to find (we can be 38" levis in the UK).

atipofthehat

@annaauld

Ah, but there are also things you can't do in bed unless you're different heights....

H.E. Ladypants

@atipofthehat Sadly, I had a friend give me this great TMI talk about a good time she was having with this boy she'd been seeing. Then after a little clarification, I had to admit I'd never done said thing because I was too tall.

Ah well. On the other hand, same-heightedness works out well for a lot of other things. You win some. You lose some.

miss.amErica

I thought I was tall... until reading these comments! I'm the shortest person on my dad's side and the tallest on my mom's, witht he exception of my sister. She's 14 and a tad bit taller than me. I love being shorter than someone! My boyfriend's family are giants! His 13 year old towers over me, and his 10 year old is pretty close to eye level. I'm right at 5'6, which to me is tall. I live in the deep south where we have all these tiny dainty girls. In high school I hated it. I was taller than a lot of the guys. Lesson learned? Don't date guys from small hometown. For the longest time, I had a boyfriend who was barely 2 inches taller than me. That made me never wear heels. (This was during that crucial learning to not look like a penguin while wearing heels stage.) The outcome is sad. I'm no longer with a short guy, the current bf is 6'4, and I still don't look right walking in heels.

hopelessshade

My kid sister is apparently going to continue growing until she hits the ceiling, which is lucky cause all the rest of the women in our family are shrimpy. She'll be our glamazon! She's got the personality and love of basketball for it, too.

Meanwhile, I was never going to be tall, but spinal surgery in my pre-teens sure made it certain I was staying just shy of 5'4. And now that I'm in my 20s, my partner is a solid foot taller than I am, and could well have been taller were he not a coffee drinker from an early age. (or so was my mother's reasoning for depriving my sleepy younger self)

Gnatalby

I'm 5'9 3/4". I add the short girl quarter inches because I always thought I WAS short, thanks to belonging to a family of giants. It really is only in the past few years I've realized I'm a tall girl, although some of my favorite friends are much taller (hi highump!).

I only ever don't like it in dating settings. I would really prefer to date a guy who is taller than me and I thought I wouldn't like a shorter guy, but right now I'm "seeing" (that's kind of a rounding up of the actual "relationship") someone who is 5'6" and I don't mind at all because he gives zero fucks about.

Sometimes stuff doesn't line up quite right, but we just have some laughs about it.

ormaisonogrande

@Gnatalby Um, are you me? I said upthread that I'm 5'10" but really I'm 5'9 and 3/4 and my boyfriend is somewhere around 5'6"/5'7". I also never really realized I was tall until a few years ago, mostly because I didn't have my growth spurt until I was 15 and so had already spent 5 years being one of the shortest in my grade.

I always said I wouldn't date someone shorter than me and then I met my guy. We don't dance together, but other than that it's never really an issue. Hell, he tells me to wear my heels when I worry about making him look even shorter. It's made me notice other men shorter/women taller couples, though.

laserbeams

Oh, also. Can we talk about shoes? I know there's already a conversation going on about wearing heels, but, uh, I can't be the only tall girl here with ginormous feet, can I?

I need to go to specialist shops to get heels in my size, and they're mostly hideous anyway, and I can't even walk in them because I never learned how.

Alixana

@laserbeams Nordstrom Rack! Shelves and shelves of fancy lady shoes in sizes 10+. Go there now.

Faintly Macabre

@laserbeams Zappos and DSW have a decent selection. Zappos doesn't have the best prices, but they have free shipping/returns, which can save you money if you're hard to fit.

laserbeams

@Alixana I should maybe have mentioned that I'm in the UK! Not sure what US shoe size I am - some charts reckon 11, others say 11 is a size too small but offer nothing above that!

Alixana

@laserbeams It looks like maybe they have reasonable international shipping from their website? I don't know, but down at the bottom you can toggle an "international shopping" setting and see things in your sizes and priced in pounds.

aliceandstuff

@laserbeams It kills me since I would totally buy a pair of comfy designer heels but as far as I know none of the designers go above size 10 T_T

I will say that Fluevog shoes and boots go up to size 12 in many styles.

MsChilePepper

@Faintly Macabre There's a Zappos outlet store in Las Vegas!

sarabara

I'm just about 6 feet and literally JUST got comfortable with it pretty much a couple months ago. Not going to lie, losing a bunch of weight helped. But more importantly are big strapping attractive man friends who encourage you to wear heels when you go out and make you feel dainty/talk about how hot tall girls are. I've got two of them and they are GREAT self-esteem boosters.

......I know I should be comfortable being a lady amazon all by myself at any weight, but whatever. It's nice feeling awesome about being big for the first time in my life.

PS: Tall ladies - J Crew jeans. That is all.

Brunhilde

@sarabara Ugh I know about the magic J Crew jeans but they are $100 and I am poor.

giraffelegs

Yessssssss! Tall chicks unite!! I am rockin 5'10 1/2" of pure lady. What what?!

@Alixana Thanks for the tip!! My excessively large feet thank you.

dustwindbun

I am sad about the possibility of tall ladies going away. As a short (and straight) lady, I suppose it doesn't matter what I think, but if I were going to make out with a lady, I would pick a tall curvy amazonian lady (or melis, if this doesn't cover you, just because you are awesome). I love women who look they could just pick me up like nothing. (And oddly, I prefer short men - my boyfriend is 5'7, regardless of what he tries to tell people, and I tell him he ought to be shorter; and I kind of wish he came in my-ex-is-an-elf-size of 5'4-5-ish.) So those of you who are tall and *not* willowy gazelles, thank you for existing, because you make me happy.

OhMarie

@dustwindbun Yeah, I have a male friend who is of average height who has a serious tall lady fetish. Like, it extends to both actual live tall ladies and weird cartoon porn where the ladies are 50 feet tall. I wanted to show this to him but I'm pretty sure he'd be devastated.

@dustwindbun I am queer and yup, that's what I like. I'm a curvy little 5'3" femme chick.

Ellie

By the way, if you are tall or tall-ish and want to feel more like you fit in you could go visit Eastern Europe. I think Montenegro is the tallest country right now. I have never felt so short (I'm 5'7") as when I was studying in Croatia. It would be routine to see like 6'6" or taller guys walking around.

Bridget Smith@twitter

@Ellie Hah, my 6' friend and I have a (hypothetical) plan to go to the Netherlands, which is another of the tallest countries. Clothes AND guys? Heaven.

ELECTROMAGNETIC CHAOS

As a dude, I used sheer willpower to grow as much as possible, as dudes are want to do. I did pretty good; my mom and dad are both 5'5", and I got up to the higher 5 foot mark. Like many guys, I craned my neck a little and my driver's license said 5'10"... I was not 5'10". For years I just assumed I massaged about 2 inches into that until just recently when I had two separate doc visits where they took my height.

When they said I was 69 inches tall, in socks? LIKE CHRISTMAS.

Beck Rea@facebook

YAY, Tall Ladies!

My beloved Roommate is 5'11",
and jokes that she's the short, fat one in her family...
I thought she was seriously kidding until I met her sisters--
Both over 6' tall, slender as gazelles,
and because they come from tall parents and uncles and grandparents, they wear heels and walk with their shoulders back, heads high.

They are glorious.

I think any height outside of the narrow 5'4"-5'6" parameter is hard--clothes, shoes, partner issues--I get tired of having to hem "ankle" length jeans, The Roommate constantly has high waters.

But we are all awesome. Clothing manufacturers are not. We ladies are. :)

merritt@twitter

I'm a 5'6" (and three-quarters! it counts!) daughter to a 6' mom and similarly tall seven sisters. Seriously! What happened?!?!? My dad is of a reasonably tall height and I think his mom is even taller than me. :(

redheaded&crazy

wow is this tall girl late to the party or WHAT!

nowwhat

@redheadedandcrazy Not as late as I am. I want to high five everyone here!

Brunhilde

Okay, as a tall (6'0") girl out at the bar on Friday night I just ran my fingers through my hair in the bathroom and realized that it exposed at least 6 inches of my beer gut when my arms are raised above my head. I am both long legged and long torsoed, so the recent short sohirt/ high waisted trend is destined to give me muffin-top/ make me look horrible until the long shirts are stylish again. Fucking long torso. Way worse than long legs, at least I can pretend to be wearing cropped jeans. Oh and shorties complaining about too long pants, think about the difference between hemming jeans and adding length.

Brunhilde

@Brunhilde Also I went to the the doctor back in the day about chronic back pain and he actually said the words "your torso is two inches too long". So... Can you fix that, remove 3 or 4 vertibrae or something?

frigwiggin

@Brunhilde I have a long torso for my height as well, so I feel your pain. At least long camisoles are still in--I stock up and have to wear them under everything so if I bend over there isn't that stupid window of lower back for everybody to see.

frigwiggin

I'm probably going to get nothing but crickets here since I'm fashionably late, but anybody here read/watch Lovely Complex? Cute and funny romantic comedy manga/anime about a tall girl and her short guy friend. (Well, "tall" in the sense of 5'8" because it is Japan, after all. But the guy is 5'1"!)

BScottie

I'm 5'11". I was 5'8" by 7th grade. My growing pains were THE WORST! If I wasn't crying myself to sleep over the pains in my legs, I was crying myself to sleep from the excruciating pain from my braces (power chain, anyone?). Middle school was awesome, you guys.

insouciantlover

@BScottie oh my goodness, I had almost forgotten about the growing pains. I remember on some really bad nights my mom would come in, having heard me crying, and rub my legs with bengay to help the pain. Eventually she just left me my own tube of bengay on the night stand.

Pony-girl

@insouciantlover my daughter (who is only 5) is already/is going to be tall (they say 6ft+ but ...whatever) she gets growing pains already poor little thing. I went into the chemist asking for something for her and they thought I was an idiot for saying 'growing pains' like it was a myth. It's not! I am already encouraging her to rock her amazon shiz because geez people do think it's ok to tell her she's tall ALL THE TIME.

kendra j.@twitter

I am 6' and honestly I hate it. I can never wear dresses because the waist will always be too high for me, like at my boobs. Everything about the cut will be wrong. Gap and J Crew have tall sizes so at least I can find pants that fit but I've resorted to wearing men's oxford shirts. Also that shit is expensive for my thrift store budget. And I hated every single day of middle school because I could never wear shorts -- they had to be fingertip length, and you know my fingertips went to just about my goddamn knees.

ThatWench

@kendra j.@twitter I've never hated being tall, but I do hate clothing manufacturers. For oh so many reasons. (And I would have died with that dress code requirement. Thankfully my middle school had no problem with 12-year-olds in short shorts.)

Gap's "X-Long" is the only major clothing maker pant that fits me, so I've been wearing nothing but Gap denim since high school. They make work pants, but they're all some variation of low-rise (!!!), so I've picked up a few other pairs here & there.

Joannna@twitter

My boyfriend is real tall (6'5") and even he talks about how self-conscious it made him feel growing up. He even wrote a comic about it. I took ritalin when I was little so it stunted my growth and I was literally a full foot shorter than everyone else when I was growing up. It leveled off and I am now 5'5" but I think going through that as a kid has left me with a lifelong case of tall envy.

fondue with cheddar

I'm 5'0" and I really want to see this movie. Being short is hard for a lot of reasons (even petite clothes are made for people taller than me), but at least it's more socially acceptable.

I think tall women are beautiful.

Becca

I'm the runt in a family of relatively tall girls too! I'm 5'6.5" (the half counts!) and most of the other women in my family have at least three inches on me. My sister is 5'10, my mom and aunt are both 5'9" - and my brother and dad are both tall.

In the rest of the world, I'm very average height. Depending on the company - even a bit tall among other women. But back at home, I'm the shorty. I can't reach anything at my mom's house or my sister's place. TOP SHELVES FOR EVERYTHING.

I realized some time during my teen years that the top of my bookshelf was filthy, but never noticed until my brother told me. And then I realized that every member of my family could see this layer of dust and... who even knows... on top of my bookshelf and just never told me.

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