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Monday, December 12, 2011

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The Guide to Bold Lipsticks

My red lipstick is discontinued from Shu Uemura, the burgundy is from Revlon and the hot pink is from Mattese.

Previously: The Cat-Eye Tutorial.



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Cat named Virtute

Ah man, I totally don't have Being a Girl down. When I go out for any sort of occasion (or let's face it, if i just feel fancy), I wear bright red or burgundy lipstick and no other make-up. Maybe a little bit of powder if I'm shiny. I've been doing it wrong all this time!

KeLynn

@Marika Pea@twitter Seriously! I've tried bright red and it looked "meh" and now I know WHY it's because I was wearing literally concealer and mascara otherwise, and probably did not a thing to my hair because I never do. I hadn't fully prepped my face. I will re-try.

cmonster

@Marika Pea@twitter I don't have being a girl down either. What does she mean when she says "I don't use lipliner unless I draw a different lip line" ??? Can you make your lips look bigger (unnecessary, I have big lips) or smaller (unwanted, I like my big lips) with liner? I have never used liner. I am not A Girl or An Adult.

Jaaaaaane!

werewolfbarmitzvah

@Marika Pea@twitter Honestly, I've been wearing lipstick forever (it's the only form of makeup I feel completely at ease using, while I only have a few years' experience experimenting with eye makeup, and I've never really used foundation before), and I think bright lipstick with no other makeup is generally fine. Results may vary depending on your particular coloring and features, but up until a few years ago, bright red lipstick with no other makeup was my signature look, and I don't thiiiiiink it looked particularly Paz de la Huerta-y? (Unless it did and I just never knew? Oops?) And I wear red lipstick with t-shirts and jeans, and nobody's ever thrown rotten vegetables at me for doing so. Really you just gotta do what works for YOUR face, whether that's a lot of makeup, a little bit of makeup, or no makeup. And only trial and error can truly tell you which look is going to work for you.

Cat named Virtute

@werewolfbarmitzvah Yeah, that's how I'm feeling! I'll do some surveys and report back.

gobblegirl

@Marika Pea@twitter I think these tips are especially for those of us who are intimidated by bright, bold lipstick. And werewolf, you totally nailed it; I didn't realize I was afraid of looking like Paz, but that's exactly it.

Panda+Attack

@cmonster You can draw slightly outside of your natural lip line in order to make your lip more plumped (subtlety would be key here). Obvs you with your naturally big lips needs no such help! I don't think everyone needs liner, I use it because my lips are pigmented (and not evenly) so it makes my colour look much more uniform, and helps it last longer. :)

RosemaryF

Jane, you are a greaking GENIUS! I never think about the fact that I'm wearing lazy make up when I try on lipstick which is why it always disappoints. So smart.

Also - my friends and I have always called to-go cup for your liquor a Roadie. As in, "I just cracked this beer, I need a Roadie before we get in the cab." And I think a cranberry & vodka is a Cape Cod, but I'm not 100% sure on that on.

hotdog

@RosemaryF ROAD DOG. yes.

murdear

@RosemaryF Yes! Short for road soda.

Lindsay Keys@facebook

@RosemaryF In my corner of Canada they are Roadpops! Roadpops make everything better, and the word is so much fun to say!

parallel-lines

I went and bought a tube of the reddest red verging on clown nose red Charles of the Ritz lipstick at the Dayton Hudson make up counter in the fifth grade with my first allowance and wore it to school the next day. My teacher pulled me aside and said, "You know hon, sometimes less is, uh...more." I haven't worn red since then but I'm willing to give it another shot!

one cow.

@parallel-lines That is just plain adorable. Do it again!

punkahontas

@one cow. Yes! That is too cute. I recommend F Bomb by Urban Decay, it's my current favorite. It's like a fat pencil, not a regular lipstick, so you need to have a fat sharpener too. But the good thing is, then you always have a good point for drawing on your lips.

DH@twitter

What this vid has taught me is that I am correct in my belief that I will never wear lipstick. I don't wear foundation or blush or...other things that go on your cheeks ('cause FRECKLES!), and my teeth are less than white. Lipstick just looks generally bad, is my deal.

But I sure like seeing other people wear cool lipstick. So many colors!

JoanTition

@DH@twitter I EXCLUSIVELY wear cat eyes + mascara (no face shtuff at all) but I recently discovered that I can also wear burgundy lipstick! And I get compliments! And my teeth are not perfectly white! You should try!

timesnewroman

@DH@twitter Red lipstick makes your teeth look whiter. Fact!!

D.@twitter

@timesnewroman It depends on the shade. Blue-based reds will def make your teeth look whiter...but orangey red will have the opposite effect. My go-to red is Mac's Russian Red. BEST EVER!

packedsuitcase

@D.@twitter So true! I love rocking Russian Red - I get so many compliments when I wear it. (Doesn't hurt that I have the Snow White thing going on - dark hair, pale skin, and red lips. I love it.)

timesnewroman

Ahh I have to disagree, I know it's received wisdom but I feel that most reds make teeth whiter, even orange-based! As long as the orange based makes the red just slightly earthy rather than actual orange.

LastMinuteLulu

@D.@twitter I third MAC's Russian Red! Best red lipsitck for realsies!

frigwiggin

I had to stop the video and come down here to say that the burgundy lipstick + no other makeup is startlingly Pazlike.

frigwiggin

@figwiggin Okay, finished the video. (I almost abbreviated it to "vid" but changed it back because I didn't want to hate myself.) Good advice! I am a never-makeup kind of gal, so it's good to know that I can't just throw on lipstick and roll. Guess it's time to go back to the beginning of How to Be a Girl and learn the basics!

retrovertigo

I just really want to whip up vodka crans and hit sephora with you, Jane. Maybe once a week? And afterwards we'd shop for versatile antique furniture/decor for our apartments.

Jane Marie

@retrovertigo yes.

Mingus_Thurber

@Jane Marie Ooo! Can I come, too? I can bring popovers and kittens.

SBGBlogs

@retrovertigo I want to come too! But only if everyone's okay that I'll mostly be trailing you all around like a lost puppy pausing only intermittently to ask weird fan-girl questions about TAL to Jane...

hotdog

...and sometimes, you can't wear a bold lipstick because it makes you look as if you have a moustache. Every. Single. Shade. Also: tiny upper lip. Also: cat eye-not for everyone. These are like makeup tips for girls with symmetrical faces; fun to watch, and probably great for some people, but so wacko on me. Don't get me wrong, I've been on the makeup forever train for a bit, and I am not afraid of blush, but put some liquid eyeliner on me and I may as well join a community theatre group immediately.

mathlete

@hotdog I have an asymmetrical face and I'm trying to get into makeup and now I am worried that I look like a weirdo when I go out every day and that it's only going to get worse!

bookbike

@hotdog I don't want to perpetuate any negative feelings you have toward makeups, 'cause they are prolly unfounded and you prolly look beautiful, but I do feel similarly. Every couple of years friends will be all, "Shut up! Everyone looks good in make-up! Letmedoitforyou pleaseplease!" but then afterwards even they will be like, "Eh...... some people look better natural...." :/

punkahontas

@mathlete Don't be discouraged! Just start off subtle and keep going bolder until you're used to it. There are a lot of colors between sheer pink and dark burgundy. Twig and Plumful from MAC are really flattering on a lot of people, and so is Dolce Vita by Nars. They aren't bold and daring, but they're flattering! And you can always spice it up with a gloss on top.

hotdog

@heyad EXACTLY. I have like four products that I have varying degrees of faithfulness to, but y'know, I look OLDER with makeup on. Like way older. Like possibly my age, which is the opposite of where I'm trying to go by putting on the makeup.

Myrtle

@hotdog You *must* see her post on eyeliner- with tape! I now have hope I, too, can be a girl and look foxy in eyeliner.

contrary

@punkahontas I LOVE DOLCE VITA. I have the matte velvet pencil and it is amazing. I wear a lot of bold lips, but dolce vita is always my go to when I want a little more subdued look.

tea tray in the sky.

@punkahontas I just started reading your blog! ie I have now read almost every post. Everyone, go read punkahontas' blog!

Also, it made me really want to go to a Pinup. But I live in Ottawa Canada and nobody else is here to drink with me :(

punkahontas

@Twinkle Little Bat Awww, thanks for reading!!! Pinups are really great. Are you sure there are no other 'pinners in Ottawa? Did you try the google group?

Megatron

@hotdog i feel the same way! i have big lips and dumb close set eyes. i tried a red lip at a wedding last year, and looking at pictures, i feel like my mouth was just begging for a penis the entire time.

swirrlygrrl

@Twinkle Little Bat I LIVE IN OTTAWA, CANADA TOO! I love that, when talking to Americans, we omit provinces. Do Americans do this in other places? Like "Hi, I'm Betty, and I'm from Austin, the United States."?

tea tray in the sky.

@swirrlygrrl OTTAWA! Haha, I was thinking exactly that when I was typing it. It sounds silly, but I think there's an Ottawa in Kansas or something too. Whereabouts in Ottawa do you live? I'm not trying to be stalker-y, I'm just secretly hoping to find out that you're a regular at the coffee shop I work at and that I see you multiple times a week, and next time I see you we'll have one of those moments where neither of you know what to say but you both keep starting sentences and interrupting the other, and then you both just start laughing.

miwome

@swirrlygrrl Yes, actually! I mean, if I'm talking to people who know as much about the US as most USians do about Canada, I don't even try with a state unless it's CA or NY. (Massachusetts? Fat f'ing chance.) This varies a little depending who I'm talking to: when I lived in Mexico, everybody was familiar with the states and cities where, well, there are a lot of Mexicans, so Texas was in and so was Chicago. Boston? No.

So basically, I work on a sliding scale from "outside Boston" to "A few hours north of New York," depending. It is not just Canadians!

noodge

see, i do a rich-pink-that-is-almost-bright-classic-red lipstick every once in a while, and i get compliments on it. but every time i look at myself when i'm wearing it i feel like my lips are huge neon signs pointing to my cheek/mouth creases on the sides of my mouth. maybe i need filler. maybe i just need to stop looking in the mirror.

i don't wanna get old :-(

heb
heb

@teenie I like to look at my face in the mirror a little cross eyed. I figure that's how everyone else see my face: a little blurry, sometimes doubled, but never focused on my "trouble areas". (Does this make me crazy?)

Myrtle

@heb This wins the internet for Sanest Thing I've Ever Read. May your favorite deity send you great sex and other blessings.

noodge

@heb ok, so i got ready for work today, put on my Special Bold Lipstick, and on the way to work tried to avoid reflections in the harsh el lighting - only looked at my reflection when it was sunny, and kept thinking to myself "BROAD STROKES! NOT FINE DETAIL!" and yeah! it worked! i think this lipstick looks pretty fine! thanks!

Michaela Daniel@facebook

@heb Genius, because it's true. I know this from therapy!

bookbike

YOU LOOK NOT LIKE CRAP IN THE BEGINNING AND NOT LIKE CRAP NOW!

tbird

Yay! I loooove bold lips, I wear them all the time. (Unless I go for a really smokey sexy heavily-lined, 70s-type eye, then it's nude all the way, baby. My personal fave is Nars "Honolulu Honey" for these purposes).

Jane, what are those go-to lipsticks? Nars "Schiap"? MAC "Heat Wave"? Do tell! I'm always looking for specifics to try on. For the next time I'm cruising around Sephora with my roadie, obvs.

MEGA VENUTIAN SPACE SCORPION

@tbird I am new at lipstick and you seem knowledgeable in these matters, do you have any idea how to keep it from… spreading? Every time (so 3 times) I wear bright red it looks lovely at first, but then by the end of the night it has start leaching out through the little lines around my lips that will one day be wrinkles, so if you look closely it is like my lips have hundreds of tiny legs. I do the whole cover with lip liner, then use a lip brush to apply, and my more subtle lipstick never does this (which I’ve worn a total of 5 times).

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@tbird So you use a lot of NARS, yea? I'm a NARS obsessive BUT how to wear matte lipstick? I have this amazing color I love, "Heat Wave" which looks totally killer on me but I'm afraid to wear it. I worry about it getting everywhere all over my face and teeth, like when I eat or drink. I want Carthage from NARS but I can't really get myself to wear the one I have. HELP? Anyone, advice on wearing matte lipsticks?

grammarqueen

@ScazzaSofija No one is going to see this, but I just have to proclaim my newfound love for NARS' matte lip pencil/crayon things. A wonderful saleswoman at Sephora helped me find the perfect red for me and I am loving Cruella by NARS. I also really liked Damned, but I chose to buy only Cruella until I have more cash. I am olive-toned medium brown, slightly lighter than medium in the winter, and it's so gorgeous. Also, I should say I have always been a sheer lipgloss/chapstick kind of girl, so a bright red lip is huge for me. It also has fabulous staying power (I failed to wash off my makeup one night and I still had it on in the morning even after eating/drinking). Also, it makes me feel fierce.

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@grammarqueen I am such a lifetime NARS fan that I was describing one of their discontinued colors that i still use to someone in the Bleeker St store who's supposed to be an expert right, and he didn't believe it actually existed.

I LOVE THE PENCILS TOO!! Even the shadow crayons are great. I had a makeover and have resisted buying one. I do want the bright green one, Celebrate. I've been using the gloss pencil in Frivolous and I'd like to try another one, oragier. Though I do want the new Larger Than Life gloss in Piree. [I'm warm toned, yellow peach, medium skin--NARS Barcelona foundation.]

grammarqueen

@ScazzaSofija The lip crayon is the only NARS item I have owned, but I want to try their other stuff next time I go to Sephora, especially now that I've decided I can wear saturated lipstick without looking like a clown. I also want every single lip crayon shade they offer. I find it easier to use than bold lipstick since it's easier to trace a line first and I refuse to use a separate lipliner.

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@grammarqueen Do it! NARS definitely does lots of pigment which is great for us medium and dark skinned girls. That and their playful names hooked me. I tend to like looking at their line at Barney's, online, or at their store on Bleeker St. since Sephora doesn't carry their entire line. Last winter when it was so depressing and long and blizzards every week in NYC that I went on a total NARS binge and you know what, I use everything I bought and don't regret it at all.

astronauta

@tbird I am so late to this thread! But! Have you tried putting some concealer or foundation around your lips, after you apply the lipstick? I never had this problem, but my friend is a makeup artist, and she always goes around the lips with some concealer and finishing powder to set everything in place.

dj pomegranate

@tbird I am also late to this threat but want to get on the Nars Love Train. "Orgasm" blush is the best ever and the reason I gave makeup a second chance. Totes doing a bold lip for the holiday party tomorrow squuueee!

grammarqueen

@dj pomegranate Can anyone give me a yes or no on Orgasm for medium-brown skin, slightly lighter than a true medium-brown. If it's any help, my foundation is called "Sand." I've tried a sample of Benefit's High Beam, which I always thought was similar to Orgasm, and it didn't even show up on my skin. Anyway, so thoughts on NARS' Orgasm for brown people?

dj pomegranate

@grammarqueen I wish I could help you with this but I am basically the whitest person ever. :(

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@grammarqueen YES ON ORGASM FOR MEDIUM BROWN SKIN. It works on absolutely everyone which is why it's so beloved. Also NARS is known for their blushes and other brands trying to dupe them don't get the same effect. Again, most everything in NARS' line works on medium and brown people.

grammarqueen

@ScazzaSofija Ok, good, because it's available to purchase on Birchbox and I have a good amount of points to use plus free shipping and an extra $20 off $75 right now, so score! I am buying it tonight.

MEGA VENUTIAN SPACE SCORPION

@astronauta My reply is even later! Thanks though. I use the mineral powder stuff (pre-buying lipstick at random a few weeks ago it was my only make-up)and I do put some on after I've done the lipstick, but it's probably not strong enough. I shall experiment with other things.

mathlete

Yellow teeth, so no lipstick for me ever.

dilettante

@mathlete Yeah, what do we do about that? For the record, I do not smoke, but will never give up my black tea habit. Or start drinking it through straws.

Also, "everyone will just think you have a UTI" is the best!

punkahontas

@dilettante I'm assuming you guys have already tried Crest White Strips? They really do work. And then whitening toothpaste to maintain.

Lucienne

@punkahontas You have to be careful with the white strips if you have any calcification from braces or something. Because it could end up really hurting.

I read somewhere that blue-red lipsticks make your teeth look whiter? I have pale skin and teeth-colored teeth (years of coffee, tea, and braces) so I'm not very good at judging the difference it makes on me personally - although I think if you do the lips "big" enough no one looks at your teeth.

dilettante

@Lucienne Yeah, I definitely have teeth issues, including sensitivity, so whitening is not so simple. I'm mostly okay with it, but when I want to play with the big girl colors I feel like it's much more noticeable and all. Maybe there's a nicely blue Avatar-inspired line of lipstick to play with somewhere...

punkahontas

@dilettante Wait! That reminds me, Clinique developed a bunch of colors specifically to make your teeth look whiter. It was hard to find a real article about it, but I found this blog post. Even though it's in the UK I'm sure most of the colors are the same. There are a lot of videos out there too.

PistolPackinMama

@mathlete swish with peroxide cut with water. Do not swallow the peroxide. Just mouth rinse with it. It will oxiclean your teeth.

dilettante

@punkahontas This is why I love teh interwebz. This is a thing, and, hey, it's for sale! Hooray! Thanks!

punkahontas

@dilettante You're welcome, good luck! Hooray! Lipstick for everyone!

Megoon

@Lucienne Blue-red lipstick one hundred percent makes your teeth look whiter. Provided you don't get any of the lipstick ON your teeth, but, you know.

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@mathlete @dilettante @punkahontas Apparently this Prime Time Smile Pen doesn't make your teeth hurt. http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/05/fashion/a-tooth-whitener-promises-gain-without-pain-trial-run.html

aliceandstuff

I need this tutorial so much, I love wearing bold colors but I tend to look garish when I do so (and DO NOT CARE).

aliceandstuff

Also how are you able to get both lips in one single pass? It takes me five minutes to apply both lips, mostly because my upper lip is nonexistent.

sceps yarx

@aliceandstuff I wear a bright lip all the time and I do it totally differently. I dab it on my lips in little dot-dot-dot patting-type motion, until it builds up to the level of color I want. And dabbing a bold lipstick can give you a nice stain without the garish look.

meganmaria

@aliceandstuff I don't even feel comfortable doing colored lip glosses in one pass.

contrary

@aliceandstuff I use a lip brush unless I'm using one of those big pencils. If i try to do a bold color straight from the tube I feel like I'm just mashing it into my face.

Anna Jayne@twitter

Yayyyyyy it's Jaaaaaaane!

Have you guys seen these lip tattoos?! I got a bunch of them to test and they are so, so hard to put on and SO CRAZY LOOKING.

Anna Jayne@twitter

@Anna Jayne@twitter what I'm saying is I need Jane to try to put them on because two times I've tried I have failed and the third time I only really got my bottom lip on.

RosemaryF

@Anna Jayne@twitter Those Red Cheetah ones look like a disease. They all look disease-ish, but the Red Cheetah are full on plague. Just say no.

Anna Jayne@twitter

@RosemaryF I had the most success with the denim ones and they look ri-damn-diculous/also plaguish.

alabee

Love it! I'm a huge fan of bold lips, but my coloring makes it a minefield -- auburn hair with blunt bangs, uber-pale skin with freckles, and green eyes opens up a lot of potential for clashing, so essentially all I do is brown eyeliner and a rose lipstick in my day-to-day life. (I've recently opened up to gray eyeliner! So edgy!) However, I've found that fuschia (!) works well for me. Reds are a tricky proposition, but I feel like I could do burgundy, right?

Anna_anna

@alabee We have similar-ish colouring I think. I never would have thought it, but bright orange works on me.

alabee

@Anna_anna Whoa, interesting. Never would have thought it, but then again, I thought fuschia would look cray. Might have to check that out, armed of course with the tips in this video.

Marian Cole@facebook

@alabee You should try dark purple or plum eyeliner! It will really make your eyes POP

liznieve

@alabee Bright orange! You'd be surprised! It's more of a coordinating thing with the hair and skin-tone, but wowee will it make those eyes pop.

summersavory

@alabee That...is me. You just described me perfectly. And I wear bold lipstick allll the time! Get dressed up, put on some red lipstick, and you will look amazing! Like, RED red. My perfect red is Rouge Dior in Ara Red. It's $32 at Sephora but it's worth it in my book, because it still looks great HOURS after I put it on, even if I'm like, getting drunk and paying no attention to it. Also, it makes me feel super-duper fancy. Another RD color I wear all the time is Rare Amber, which is a slightly toned-down orangey red. Surprisingly lovely!

PistolPackinMama

@Anna_anna Wait wait. Orange? I have dyed copperey red hair, not so much auburn. Pale freckled skin, and blue eyes. Can I wear orange? That sounds... not right. Especially since I wear a lot of green and teal and peacock and purple.

Speaking of purple, I actually do wear grape and purple tones and even magenta and love how it looks with red hair. It makes my eyes look REALLY blue.

I need to learn to wear eyeliner.

Shayna

@alabee I have basically the same coloring (brighter red hair), and I wear reds. My current favorite is L'Oreals Infallible Rebel Red (here) and L'Oreals Color Riche, Rich Red (here) Looks best, like Jane Marie said, if your face is made up, and put on gradually (they're both glosses. The applicator is useless, use your finger). They're very bold, you kind of need the right mood to wear it, but it's a confidence booster like nothing else.
What I especially love about these two is that I picked them up at my local drugstore. I hate going into Sephora, it's kind of expensive for a limited budget.

Megasus

@alabee Coral girl, CORAL. That's what Joan Holloway is always wearing on Mad Men. And seconded on the plum, it makes green eyes crazy in a good way.

heb
heb

Hooray! I love my red lipstick! Except I seem to have a really gummy smile in photos when I wear it. WHATEVER! "Meet me in real life; I'm better looking" - all photos forever

punkahontas

@heb We call that a "Wrigley's Smile."

plonk

as usual, i am stunned and amazed.
putting in a hairpin request, because this seems like a good place: could we have an open thread sometime soon where people ask for and give suggestions of good gifts? some of this always goes on in bargain bin/HTBAG and it's always very fun/useful.

apples and oranges

@plonk yes please I need advice and wisdom from the Pin about what to get my gentleman friend for the holidays. anyone reading - he likes lots of things/has [too] many interests and I don't want to be boring and just get him a book but I might get him a book and then make something to go along with it, what is cute but not barf worthy and also appropriate for an informal level of commitment? (we're going to be away for 6 months and won't be together as of a few weeks from now, which, sidenote, is making me crazy and insane emotional)

aw hairpin, where I can always count on myself to word-vomit my problems on the page.

RELATED COMMENT I started wearing bright red lipstick recently and I like it but I don't really wear other makeup. oops...

remargaret

@kangerine Cordless drill forever. I have given so many cordless drills to so many boyfriends over the years. It's around $75-100, so it's more of a committed level (in my opinion). They're useful and nice to have around. Also good for a lady-friend who is handy.
The BF already has one (see: tiny house ), so I'm getting him a new drill battery this year. ROMANCE.

MollyculeTheory

Aah this has got to be the most charming 'torial yet! Love it/you!

I think another element is just not giving a fuck. I have red hair and pale skin and my philosophy is "I am straight-up going to wear this near-fluorescent red-orange lipstick like a motherfucker if I want to."

punkahontas

@MollyculeTheory But you also have perfect skin and the skills to do a great cat eye. Still, I agree, attitude is everything when it comes to anything!

Lucienne

@MollyculeTheory Yeah, I think "I am making a statement" is an underutilized option!

Janeyvonslainy

@MollyculeTheory YES! THIS THIS EVERYDAY! THIS!
blunt bangs+side bun+Saturday night red lipstick= every fucking day and if you don't like it GTFO

summersavory

@Janeyvonslainy Yes please! I have sworn a personal oath to be wildly overdressed ONE HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE TIME. Red lipstick, liquid eyeliner, heels, gigantic earrings, and an incalculably large collection of dresses: these are my weapons of choice.

PistolPackinMama

@MollyculeTheory @summersavory Oh yes. Minus the earrings and the bright lipstick. But the dresses and heels and things. I am there with you. In a frock.

Janeyvonslainy

@summersavory I have a personal oath to not wear pants more than 3 times a month. I look like a mess, but a hot mess that doesn't wear pants but does wear skirts and fun necklaces.

Janeyvonslainy

@Janeyvonslainy edit: and bright lipstick

summersavory

@Janeyvonslainy my ideal life: NEVER PANTS EVER

Jolie Kerr

I can't even watch this until someone tells me how to wear lipstick without it feeling super gunky and gross and ugh ugh ugh lip slime ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!! (I am a failure of a woman, I know.)

yeah-elle

@Jolie Kerr This is why I like lipstain!

Jolie Kerr

@yeah-elle I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THESE WORDS MEAN? STAINS? SO AM I TO UNDERSTAND THAT I'LL BE OXICLEANING MY LIPS UNTIL THE END OF TIME?????

piggie

@Jolie Kerr And oh my god, is it on my teeth? It's on my teeth, isn't it? They feel greasy! Omg my TEEETH!

phlox

@Jolie Kerr Seriously, it took me until recently when I got a crazy pink lip gloss in the Clinique bonus bag to feel comfortable with make-up-y lip glosses. Lipsticks are not happening.

P.S. I made your brownies as an apology for turning in my grad school application late. I don't find out if I'm in for five months but the brownies are delicious!

werewolfbarmitzvah

@Jolie Kerr Exfoliate first (damp toothbrush), and after you've applied the lipstick, close your lips around a finger and then pull it out. Prevents lipstick from getting on your teeth, and keeps it away from the inner-lip region where things can get gunky.

MissMushkila

@Jolie Kerr And I might be wrong, but I really think the quality of the lipstick matters. I have learned that the only ones that don't feel like layer wax on my lips are ones that describe themselves as "sheer, lightweight, moisturizing". I love Korres Mango Butter Lipstick and Nars.

werewolfbarmitzvah

@MissMushkila I LOVE the Korres mango butter lipstick!! I've been wearing the coral color (which is basically red) almost every day. It is perfect.

MissMushkila

@werewolfbarmitzvah I currently only own "natural purple" and "natural pink" but I am very much desirous of the coral. I am desirous of all of them though. I made a point of trying EVERY SINGLE korres color on in sephora one day. They all looked smashing. It is voodoo or something.

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@werewolfbarmitzvah "Keeps it away from the inner-lip region where things can get gunky." Aaaah I see. Thank you for this. I just tried the awesome bright matte lipstick, NARS Heat Wave, that I've been unable to wear and by keeping it off the inner area it finally feels natural, non-gunky, not like I'm going to get it all over my teeth and face. Just keep away from that inner lip! Any other tips?

teebs

Jane! This is exactly what I needed. I was just talking about lipstick/Sephora woes on that other post.

I can't believe what a difference the done makeup vs no makeup made. The burgundy with no makeup had a Paz de la Huerta vibe.

teebs

@teebs
And drinking + makeup shopping sounds 10X more fun.

tea tray in the sky.

@teebs Also more spendy.

Achyvi

@teebs YES! I was also thinking of Paz de la Huerta in the beginning. I wonder if that's why she (Paz, not Jane!) looks so whackadoo? Or maybe too much liquid courage sometimes...

Waiting

I'm so glad I have inspiration now to sit in front of my mirror and play with makeup. Considering that I have various take-home finals due this week that I haven't started, and I just text message-broke up with my boyfriend. (He said his ex's name during sex. After over a year of dating.)

teebs

@MalPal OH MY GOD.

bunB

@MalPal Oh nooo! I'm sorry. That deserves a text dump. Yuck. I say you pretend you're Jane for the day (pour yourself a cocktail, make yourself a nice meal, and prettify yourself) and everything will be better tomorrow and you can do your finals.

diesel_vontrapp

@MalPal Are you fucking kidding me.

The Lady of Shalott

@MalPal After a YEAR? Oh Lord. Text dump FO SHO. Then cocktails, makeup, plenty of delicious food, and then NAIL those exams!

Waiting

@The Lady of Shalott yup. It really happened. I found out he texted her over the summer (and lied about it when I baited him), and then a week later... it happened.

This just in - his response to my text:

"When can I get my sd card back"

teebs

@MalPal Holy shit. Juicebox of the year award!

Hellcat

@MalPal Oh, how horrible -- I am sorry this happened to you! Yuck. I feel like I'd have to do the same thing because, even if he were completely innocent of anything but the name thing, I'd never forget it and I'd ruin the relationship anyway. Ugh, man.

frigwiggin

@MalPal "You can have it back when you GRAB IT OUT OF THIS GASOLINE FIRE I AM STARTING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET"

Shipwreck

@MalPal Woah, seriously, juicebox of the YEAR.

@MalPal DUMP HIM WITH FIRE!

Waiting

@figwiggin LOL. Thank you all for your support for my non-lipstick related crisis. It helped me laugh a bit in between mouthfuls of compulsively eating an entire bag of chips

NeverOddOrEven

@MalPal I am Wayyyy late to this party but DAMN GIRL! (sorry, I'm drunk) If you're in the twin cities by chance, I will so buy you a drink so you can tell me ALL about it!

LlamaLlama

I picked up two $5 lipsticks from Milani:
Mango Mambo (bright reddish orange)
Rose Hip (intense pink)

They are both flattering on me AND on the two other people I recommended them to! And they have pretty good staying (both as in lasting and not migrating) power. Amazing and cheap! I was pleased.

All you ladies who think you can't wear lipstick because you don't wear face makeup? I dunno. Give it a shot! I am 30, have a pretty good complexion, pale skin, brown hair, and freckles. I wear bold lipstick with mascara and a tiny bit of my go-to flattering neutral gold shimmer eyeshadow (for me, this is Bare Minerals Golden Ruby). Maybe a little eyeliner. Maybe a little highlighter on my cheekbones. I find-- maybe I am delusional-- that a relatively bare face with bold lips gives me a chic, Euro look. Makes things look less matchy-matchy. Dare I say effortless? Maybe it makes me look less pretty but more stylish? YMMV.

koala

@Lana @twitter Yeah, my daily routine is just concealer/foundation, a bright lip (red, pink, coral), and brown or black cat eyes. I dress it up by adding mascara and a very subtle eyeshadow. I think it looks fine.

:Cinnamon Girl:

@Lana @twitter I think this is allowed if you have clear complexion! For those of us who aren't so blessed, the face-part is required...

bunB

What about lipstick for girls without luscious lips? Every time I have a hint of color on my lips, all of a sudden I'm going, "Ugh where did my mouth go?" And this is with a full face of makeup. I think my face is just better suited to a heavy eye and light lip. Thoughts?

Lucienne

@bunB Try lipliner! It takes a bit to get the hang of, like eyeliner, but you can make your mouth look bigger. I've had good luck with a lipliner in a darkish red (fill in the lips as well as outlining) and then using a dark-but-sheer gloss.

hotdog

@Lucienne I have to disagree on the liplining: I've never seen anyone pull it off so that their lips look bigger, rather than like they had an unsteady hand.

Lucienne

@hotdog But wouldn't you necessarily not notice the people doing it right ...?

noodge

@hotdog I agree with Lucienne - there is a trick to doing it so it doesn't look too bad. and there are people you know who are probably doing it right, but you don't notice it - that's the way it should be! and honestly @bunB - thin lips are nothing to be ashamed of! There are plenty of beautiful women with thin lips! you may not be able to pull off a dark lip, but a lighter bold (bright red or pink?) should still be ok. if you do want to try liplining to make your lips larger, it doesn't work as well if you have a very defined natural lip line, but if your lip line is a bit fuzzy, it's easy to add a millimeter (or two, if you're feeling ballsy) to your natural lip line. I would recommend starting with a natural/nude lipliner with a plumping gloss (NYC makes a pretty decent/cheap clear plumping gloss that I love). From there, if it feels good to you, branch out into darker shades or more matte colors. If you want to go bold, i would definitely recommend using a liner to fill in your whole lip instead of buying tubes of lipstick, since the liner will be easier to apply, and if you do "color outside the lines" on purpose it will hold its shape much better.

bunB

@teenie @Lucienne Aw, thanks, ladies! Good tips. I'll give it a whirl soon!

hotdog

@teenie oh no, I've noticed people doing it better than other people, but I always notice. I have many lovely friends that are very lovely makeup artists, but still...you can always sort of tell. That said, I have a VERY defined lip line, so it looks particularly hilarious on me. tarte tinted balm for everything.

noodge

@hotdog haha, see I have a fairly undefined lip borders, so lining is my friend, and since my lips are semi thin, i am generous with my lining, and i think it looks great/unnoticeable (if I may say so myself ;-)) but if I were to put on just a tinted gloss/balm i would look like i tried to eat porkchops without my hands - just an indistinct glossy smudge. it doesn't help that my lips are pale, too.

atipofthehat

I hope there's a nice Balk piece on the Awl about how best to apply cornstarch to your balls.

merg

I am obsessed with the bright lipstick the girls in the J Crew catalog always wear. I only just discovered that they had offered it on the site, but it's all sold out now ;(

The Lady of Shalott

I really really want to try a nice dark lipstick but it brings me back (painfully) to when I was 15 and still learning about makeup (since I wasn't allowed to start wearing makeup until I was fourteen and starting high school), and I immediately seized on LOOKATMELOOKATMELOOKATME makeup like suuuuuper dark glittery lipstick from Urban Decay that made me look like Paz de la Huerta's prostitute younger sister (if Paz had been a thing back then).

Sadly this is the least embarrassing of my makeup mistakes at that age. Let us not speak of the year (!!!!) I went to school with thick black eyeliner circling my eyes and green glittery metallic eyeshadow over it (falsely believing it would make my eyes look greener), and lashings of NYC mascara that inevitably clumped together and fell off, and accented the whole thing with the aforementioned superdark glittery lipstick.

My school photo from sophomore year is a NIGHTMARE.

frigwiggin

@The Lady of Shalott This makeup sounds like my second cousin! I just saw her this weekend and somehow between the last time I saw her and now, she turned into a Scene Kid. Teenagers!

The Lady of Shalott

@figwiggin I wasn't even a scene kid as a teenager! (This was before scene kids were a Thing, sobbing.) I TRULY BELIEVED THAT I WOULD BE MORE ATTRACTIVE THAT WAY. Jesus God, there are no words.

My mother is still cringing in horror that she let me out fo the house looking like that. SO painful

MollyculeTheory

@The Lady of Shalott We need to have some sort of "My Worst High School Makeup Decision" thread - my only problem would be deciding which cosmetic tragedy counts as the worst.

teebs

@The Lady of Shalott
I went through a dark brown lipstick phase in the 6th grade. I thought I looked super fly. I was wrong.

The Lady of Shalott

@MollyculeTheory We totally, totally should. "The Best Time I Went to High School Looking Like a Streetwalker." Thank goodness Facebook wasn't around in those days, is all.

remargaret

@MollyculeTheory Gaww, the first and only time I tried mascara in middle school, the teacher pulled my best friend aside and asked her what was wrong with me.
"She's wearing makeup."
"OHHH."

oh, disaster

@The Lady of Shalott Oh god, black eyeliner and glittered eyelids. I knew I was mentally blocking out 9th grade for a reason.

sceps yarx

@MollyculeTheory In sixth grade (before my parents let me buy makeup) I would draw goth curly eyeliner explosion all over my face with crayola fine-tip markers. It's not a look I'd go for now, but I'm fairly unrepentant.

Atheist Watermelon

@The Lady of Shalott My junior year of college I thought it was a briliant idea to wear a jeweled bindi all the time. Yeah. I guess we all have our interesting moments...

cloudburst

@The Lady of Shalott my freshman year of high school I started experimenting with makeup and one of my favorite looks was to dab black lipstick from a halloween costume in the centres of my lips and then run the barbie pink tinkerbell lipstick I'd had since I was eight over it so it made a nice violet color. I thought I was pretty awesome. When I wasn't doing that I was wearing frosted white lipstick. it was called "lace."

contrary

@The Lady of Shalott I don't know how I didn't suffer serious ocular abrasion issues because, oh my god, the amount of glitter that I would wear on my face.

I was also I very big fan of "Melody" by MAC, which is like a matte teal. I bought for myself when I was 13 and would wear it up past my brow bone (with aforementioned glitter excess). Also, colored mascara!

Stinkerbelle

Okay, I fully admit I did not read through the gazillion comments, so mebbe somebody already said this, but PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE make more of these tutorials. They are super awesome and helpful, and you are super fun to watch!

meganmaria

@Stinkerbelle Jane Marie's tutorials are some of my favorite things ever. She's the best.

Alixana

I hate to be the pain-in-the-ass deaf girl around here, but is there any way we can get subtitles or a transcript for these awesome videos?? I want to play with pretty lipsticks tooooo! I can read your lips for much of the video but obviously not when there is a hand / tube of lipstick / etc in front of your gorgeous face. Please? Just something to consider?

elizabee

@Alixana As the pain-in-the-ass girl whose computer no longer produces sound, I second this motion enthusiastically.

sandwiches

@Alixana Thirding this so hard as a pain-in-the-ass hard-of-hearing girl!!

gobblegirl

@Alixana Okay, I only read this now, and you may never come back and check this comment, but in case you do, here is the first three and a half minutes, until the makeup montage:

The question we get the most around here is: "tell me which red lipstick, or pink lipstick, or crazy bright whatever bold lipstick...tell me which one is right for me because I try them on and they all look stupid and I hate it, but then I'm walking down the street right after I leave Sephora and I see somebody else wearing a bright red lip and they look amazing and what is the deal?"
Unfortunately, there are no hard and fast rules, I can't say exactly what works based on your hair colour or skin colour...It's like, everytime I go to Sephora or anywhere, and I ask "Oh, what colour of this should I wear?" they're all like "you look like you have yellow undertones?" and I'm like "I'm hungoooooover?"
And it changes everytime. Sometimes I have pink undertones, sometimes I have yellow undertones, sometimes I have blonde hair, sometimes I'm a brunette...there's too many variables.
So I can't say which colour exactly will be right for you. BUT, I'm gonna show you a few things you can do when your'e shopping to make it easier to find that colour, and less intimidating, and a lot more fun!
[holds up three tubes] So here my favourite bold lip colours that I actually wear all the time, can you see those? One is like a burgundy, almost brown; then I have a true red, that sometimes looks orangey and sometimes looks ...why am I even doing that? (laughs)...sometimes it looks blueish. And then I have this pink, that's like a super duper hot pink, it's almost fluorescent.
And I just want to show you what I think is the major mistake that people make when they're shopping for really bright lipcolour: shopping like this [waves at bare face]. Like, a tshirt or sweater or whatever, and your hair like normal, and your face looks like normal because you don't have any makeup on, and you just, like, walk into Sephora and you're like "I think I'm going to pick up that really bright red crazy lipstick today!"
And you pick it up, and you put it on [applies lipstick] and you're like "Disgusting!" You just look gross.
I'm gonna drink. I have gin and tonics this time, because I had a party, and I put out gin, and I forgot to put out mixers, so nobody drank any. So I have a lot of mixers and gin now.
Same thing goes for the pink and the burgundy. [cuts to pink ]See? Gross. [cuts to burgundy] And...grossest yet.
So, anyway:
1: Think about what you're wearing. Like right now, I look like a goth kid, and I don't want that. I want like, glamour. So I would wear something that shows maybe a little more skin, and is maybe not black. To pair with the dark lips, the black with my white white pale skin...[frowny face]
2: Make your hair look nice,
and 3: Do a full face of makeup, but the eye and cheek looks we're going to do are really simple, just like, light eyeshadow, thin eyeliner, tons of mascara because you should always wear tons of mascara, and a light blush. So not tons of makeup, but DONE, you've got to look done.
And if you do all of that, I'll come back and show you that these colours look compeltely different on somebody who's prepared to wear them.
[makeup montage]

gobblegirl

@gobblegirl Second half:

[makeup montage]

Okay, when you've finished pencilling in your eyebrows, go fix your hair. It doesn't even matter what you do to it, just make it look...like it's been touched since you got out of bed.
If I were you, I would pack a traveller, a little to-go cup of liquid courage. It's fun to do when you bring a friend. You guys should probably do vodka cran, or whatever they're called. Vodka cran, right? Yeah. You take a little bottle of cranberry juice, and you empty it out anywhere from one quarter to halfway, and refill that with vodka, and put it in the freezer until you're ready to go. And it just looks like you have a UTI to everyone in the world. They won't even notice that you're drinking alcohol.
So we're going to see what a difference the face makes.
Oh, I don't really use lipliner unless I"m going to draw a different lipline on. If I'm just doing my normal one I just use lipstick. [applies red]
See?! It's not terrible now, it just looks like I'm wearing a - wait, my hair's messed up back here - it just looks like I'm wearing a bold lip, and it's not ugly, and I don't feel gross, and I don't feel like it totally clashes even though it's a really super bright colour. I like it!
[cut to her wearing burgundy]
I like this one a lot better too, this is that burgundy colour, doesn't it look completely different?
[cut to pink]
Even the pink works now! I think? I hope you don't disagree, what if you're like, "You looked like crap at the beginning and you look like crap now."

Alixana

@gobblegirl AHHH YOU ARE AMAZING. Thank you thank you thank you!

My lipreading accuracy was actually greatest for the liquid courage instructions ... wonder what that says about my life.

elizabee

@gobblegirl You rock.

gobblegirl

@Alixana I'm just so glad someone read it and made those ten minutes worthwhile! Maybe next time there's a tutorial I will remember this earlier on in the day, and I can break it down by the minute with some other 'Pinners.
Just glad I could help! Enjoy your new exciting lips!

sandwiches

@gobblegirl You are awesome, thank you for doing this!

Jane, you are also awesome! Vodka cranberry is totally going with me on my shopping trips now...well, the ones to which I can walk, anyhow.

Whiskeydrinkandchocolatebars

@gobblegirl
Thank you thank you thank you for doing that!!

NeverOddOrEven

@Whiskeydrinkandchocolatebars based upon your name, we should be best friends.

Hellcat

I am forever trying out deep maroonish reds (with a bluish tone) and I think maybe even the Revlon one Jane had in the video. I kind of like it, but then I get scared off by the idea of throughout-the-day maintenance or that I will possibly end up with a clown-face because I accidentally wiped my hand across my mouth, or because I chewed a nail or something. I think I am stuck in a rut of only wearing stuff that can be applied safely without a mirror.

Maybe I'll go try it right now, while I still have some of my regular (albeit sparse) everyday makeup on...

contrary

@Hellcat try these!I have the matte ones, and they have crazy insane staying power (and also smell like cake!) I put Korres lip butter over them throughout the day because sometimes they are a little drying, but I love love love them.

Hellcat

@contrary Oh, thanks! That Dark Berry looks nice and the Always Red too (heh, more lip stuff to throw into my bag! This is getting crazy now... but I do love coming here and learning that lots of you guys also have the same thing going on). The whole drying thing does bug me too -- to the point where it seems like I apply Blistex all day, every day.

oh, disaster

Okay, when it comes to trying out foundation/buying new ones, do you still make up your face? Because I feel too intimidated to go into Sephora without wearing foundation (since everyone else is always so made up and looks like they're probably models) and then I don't try anything new because I'm not sure if I should since I'm already wearing something and I keep buying the same and the cycle just keeps on going. I just really want to try Make Up Forever HD like everyone else.

I might be overthinking this. But really, what do you do?

Hellcat

@andrea disaster Try it and return it if you don't like it -- I think Sephora is very accommodating about this kind of thing. Maybe they have a sample you can take?

Emma Peel

@andrea disaster They usually have makeup remove there, so I usually take off everything except my mascara so I can test foundation/concealer? Or if you think you really want to buy something, just ask someone to help you with the foundations and they will show you the way.

Seriously though, Sephora is my Bad Day Place, so I've gone in there looking horrreendous and no one bats an eye. I think they just figure they stand to make more money off you.

cmonster

@andrea disaster Funny story about not making up your face - my sister and I once went in after her soccer practice and asked if we could try some foundations. When the (very nice) lady sat her down in the chair, she asked, "Okay, sweetie, have you ever worn makeup before?" I think she was 19 or 20 at the time, and absolutely horrified!

So you can't do much worse than that.

tea tray in the sky.

@cmonster Oh dear god. The one time I took advantage of one of their super helpful (not being sarcastic there, they really are just super helpful) staff, I told her I needed something for graduation and she said "Oooh! Did you get your prom dress yet?" "Actually, um, I'm 24." And it turns out I was older than she was?

But jeez, that's just awful. I feel sorry for the associate who probably just wanted to run away from you but had to stay and help your sister with foundation.

punkahontas

@andrea disaster They will make you tiny samples to take home (of ANYTHING) at Sephora. When I was looking for a tinted moisturizer last summer, I went in there, chose like 3, and had them make me samples so I could try them at home, on my whole face, and in my real life.

mackymoo

@andrea disaster I am speaking to you as a person who just went into Sephora for the FIRST TIME last night after watching this video. I also wanted to try the Make Up Forever HD. Normally I am the person who is intimidated by this stuff, but I just went in after work and it was all totally cool. Since everyone else is trying on shit it doesn't look weird to do it yourself. I just removed whatever was left of my makeup from the day and slapped the new stuff on there. I was always afraid of going in there because I'm not much of a make up girl, but it was way better than I expected. DO IT AND SEE YOUR WALLET SHRINK.

frigwiggin

Some days I wish I had a friend who was super makeup-knowledgeable and fun and cool (I wish I had a Jane!) who could do my face up so I know what I look like with makeup on and whether it's worth it. Because FWIW I think I look pretty much fine with no makeup whatsoever, and never ever wear it, but then there are those "What if...?" moments where I wish someone could do mascara on me. But I guess I will have to settle for buying my own makeup and teaching myself through HtBaG videos!

Hellcat

@figwiggin I actually have that friend and, sadly, I never take her up on this kind of thing!

highfivesforall

@figwiggin Same for me! I had one of those friends once, but then she moved back to London. :(

punkahontas

@figwiggin You could go to MAC and ask them to help you find something? An eyeshadow look, a blush, a lipstick, whatever. Just be clear that you ONLY want that one thing, if that's all you want. But you can seriously walk in there and be like "Can you help me find an eyeshadow look for a daytime wedding?" Or "Can you show me how to do a smokey eye?" And they will work with you and show you how to do it.

planforamiracle

That is a pretty good tip! The other thing I've found about wearing bold lipstick is that you just have to get used to how it looks. I feel that way about cat eyes, filled-in brows, any makeup that's several steps away from bare-faced—since I'm not always used to how it makes me look, I imagine that I look crazy when I wear it. I don't, of course (I think), it's just a matter of not being used to it. The more you practice, the more it will feel like a normal thing to do.

hedgehog

@planforamiracle well, but and then you power through that and start wearing it every day, and then you feel wrong without it, which is a weird place to find yourself. I never imagined I would become a person who wore foundation and mascara on an unscheduled Sunday.

Shayna

I read somewhere that if you go for a bold lip, your eyes should be toned down, and vice versa. Opinions on this?

elysian fields

@Shayna that's what I thought, too -- especially for daytime.

hedgehog

@Shayna If you aren't much of a full-on makeup type to start off with, probably what you think of as a lot is actually not a lot? I can put on what feels like a lot of eye makeup to me, but standing back, in the scheme of things, I recognize that it really is not a lot -- certainly not too much for day or too much to go with a bold lip. I mean, real life is that other women are mostly walking around my not particularly glammy office with more than that and for no special reason. I basically have to think "smoky eye" just to get a visible eye. I don't know how anyone gets to an actual smoky eye.

tremendous

'pinners!

i have HUGE lips and HUGE eyes and a HUGE love of red lipstick. shall i persevere in my quest to find the perfect shade? i feel like it's just not for me :(

summersavory

@tremendous I say GO FOR IT! In my experience, pulling off red lipstick is all about knowing you look fly as hell. And for that, you need to find that perfect shade that makes you look fly as hell. Strategy: find a friend who gives at least one fuck about makeup and whose makeup-related judgment you trust, put on fancy lady clothes, and hit Sephora. Gather a lot (a LOT) of testers in all sorts of red shades, and just try on more and more and more until you find one that you both think is fabulous! That's how I found my perfect red, at any rate.

You WILL leave looking like you've recently gotten to first base with like 30 clowns. Don't even worry about it. ('Cause you're FLY as HELLLL.)

Myrtle

@tremendous What, What? There is No problem here, only fun! We all want to be you, goosebump, so flaunt it. BTW, it's all up in the Sephora here, but for getting your personal red, my two cents would send you to the MAC counter. I adore all their makeup, but I feel like they own red lipcolor.

punkahontas

@Myrtle I agree with going to MAC for red lipsticks. It's so hard to find the right one without trying it on and I will never put a lipstick sample from Sephora on my regular lips. They just see too much action.

Ladybug from MAC is a good "starter red" because it's RED but also a little sheer. It's like, a more casual bold lip. (My major red from MAC is Dubonnet.) Though my current favorite red of all time is Urban Decay's F Bomb. That's FOR REAL RED though, forever.

summersavory

@punkahontas Eeek, true, but that's what the alcohol's for! I always wipe the testers down with it like CRAZY before I use them. You're definitely making me want to go try some MAC reds, though!

punkahontas

@summersavory I CAN'T! I saw a horrifying exposé once, and it even makes me nervous about MAC, but at least those lipsticks are usually handled by pros and not hoards of teenage girls like at Sephora. I don't know the exact thing I saw, but it was something like this.

tremendous

@summersavory ooo ladies, i love/treasure/need your encouragement. i have just had a few eye-opening (ha ha ha, puns) experiences of the "Oh, what big LIPS you have," variety while wearing red lipstick my heart desires. it's left me quaking in my boots a bit about going uber-bold. but i want to, oh, how i want to.

highfivesforall

While I have practically zero experience with makeup, buying or wearing, I have totally noticed that what you look like when you go shopping for things that you wear makes a huge difference in what you think looks good on you. If my hair looks awesome, I am way more likely to buy bolder clothing because I'm so much more confident about how good I look. Like, I bought a giant drapey rainbow shirt from UO that I would never have bought if my hair looked stupid or I was wearing shoes/pants/bra I didn't like that day, and I'm so happy I have it! Sometimes I want to go shopping after work, but then I remember, I am wearing pants that I hate because it is laundry day, so no shopping for me, because it will just make me sad to stand in front of the mirror and not think anything looks good on me.

Vera Knoop

@highfivesforall Wait... is this why I hate shopping for clothes so much? But since I am totally without clothes I like, maybe this is an unsolvable problem? Hm.

redheaded&crazy

@highfivesforall definitely! Also how much energy it requires to take your clothes on and off. I usually wear leggings and a tanktop and nothing else (I know I know leggings aren't pants) so that I can try on dresses and skirts without taking off too much.

having nice hair and a little bit of mascara is also key for sure

miwome

@redheadedandcrazy But then all the putting on and taking off destroys the hair! #petpeeve

hedgehog

My two cents: Try on the orangiest red you can find (not necessarily traffic-cone, although hell try that too, but like Bobbi Brown lipstick in Orange which is orange yet sedate) and also try on a really blue-toned deep fuchsia, and see what happens to them on your face. I look fine in blue-toned shades, but I also pretty much turn everything pink. I need to deliberately look for orange-toned shades and corals if I want to do a warm or rosy or true red and not skew to fuchsia.

jackeemarie

Jane! I want your bangs. I wish I could have bangs! My hair lady won't let me do those sassy straight across bangs though, because my hair grows weird and it'll just naturally part itself in the middle :(.

:Cinnamon Girl:

Jane. You are SO HOT. Like, at 3:45. That face! Sex kitten! But an educated one. The best kind!

:Cinnamon Girl:

Also, @Jane Marie, what eyeshadow/makeup are you wearing in this vid? Your eyes have this fantastic glimmery white gold situation that I want to recreate.

Jane Marie

@.Lauren. pshhh, lauren!! stop it. and the eyeshadow is a combo of the two lightest shades in kat von d's ludwig palette. her eyeshadows are amazing.

summersavory

@Jane Marie agreed! I just bought that same palette and it is SO SO lovely.

punkahontas

@summersavory Crap. Now I want to buy more eyeshadow. And here I thought Urban Decay's Naked and Black palettes would be my everything forever. (Haha. Not really.)

miwome

@punkahontas ALL OF YOU STOP IT, I already bought shoes today and cannot be spending moolah on makeup. Damn exchange rate.

spottenwren@twitter

My problem is that I love a bold lip and it looks good on me, but it never lasts! I have tried stains, which completely dried my lips out and I spend the entire time slathering on lip balm. I tried application, blotting, application and it still came right off... I think I must subconsciously be rubbing my lips together all the time.

punkahontas

@spottenwren@twitter Have you tried Lip Spackle? It's a thing! Also, yeah, don't rub your lips together! And always drink from the same spot on your glass.

LMac

Oh man! I felt an uncontrollable urge to go to Sephora to buy a new lipstick after work today, and then this was published and GET OUT OF MY HEAD HAIRPIN, EXCEPT DON'T EVER I LOVE YOU.

LMac

@LMac You guys, I took Jane's earlier advice about investing in grown-up lady makeup, and HOLY COW. NARS 4-evaaaa!

Myrtle

Yellow undertones? No, hungover. You haz ALL the lurves for that line alone.

Laura Yan@twitter

Oh gosh. I wear red lipstick almost every single day with no other make up except at most curled lashes and mascara-and I like to dab the lipstick on my cheeks and blend it a little to create a fake blush. But I think that actually works for me. Sometimes I almost feel self conscious when I'm not wearing lipstick or wearing pink or something. Hot pink is the scary color I'd never ever wear!

Also: tip for making blah hair look instantly fabulous, add a flower. I have a pretty big black flower pin that I wear a lot because it's the same as my hair color so it's not too ostentatious, and it adds that pin-up/retro aesthetic and makes the lipstick totally okay.

Also I find brown based reds are much easier to work with every day than a true red. Also I really love Revlon lipsticks-the matte Really Red is a perfect true red that's easy to apply, stays on and generally wonderful. In the Red is the darker, brown toned version that works better I think as an everyday without being such a statement red lip.

gunface

if anyone's looking for more lipstick options, Victoria's Secret make-up is INCREDIBLE and fairly cheap! http://www.victoriassecret.com/ss/Satellite?ProductID=1265646117238&c=Page&cid=1319078555747&pagename=vsdWrapper

i've got the true-red "Slow Burn" from the Very Sexy line, which beat out Estee Lauder, Chanel, MAC, and a bunch of other-brand reds that i tried. and i'm a ridiculously pale Indian girl, so if VS lipstick works for me, it HAS to work on every one!

VS make-up is the best. try the eyeshadows! AMAZE.

lafleur

Hm hm hm I guess we'll have to agree to disagree about doing the rest of your makeup: my favorite thing now is just mascara and bright lipstick. My tip to making the bright lip work, though, is blotting it and doing a few layers, so it's a bit smudgy and makes your lips look huge.

dj pomegranate

@lafleur I kind of do this too? Like, either a heavy eye and a nude lip or a heavy lip and only mascara. Then I feel not too "made up" but also fierce!

AbdulAlhazred

I can't stop watching this series... it's no use to me at all, being a beardy dude, but I'm a little in love Jane Marie's smart rambling style and big brown eyes.

@AbdulAlhazred I think it's great that you watch these! So many men lack an understanding of exactly what a huge pain in the ass makeup can be.

illegalseagull

JANE,
How did you do your hair for this video? I have a really similar hair length and style (even the same color, twinsies!), but no matter what I tried to do, I look like someone chewed on my hair/just woke up/live in a sewer. Hair secrets please?

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I was wearing literally concealer and mascara otherwise, and probably did not a thing to my hair because I never do. nj roofing contractors

linkaccu

I need to deliberately look for orange-toned shades and corals if I want to do a warm or rosy or true red and not skew to fuchsia. Click here

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wearing literally concealer and mascara otherwise, and probably did not a thing to my hair because I never do trailer tent

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